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    #6002
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Just found this http://www.olympushealth.com/olympus-health-premium-protein-5kg.html?reviews#reviews

    Thats a seriously seriously cheap price but looking at the ingredients, soy is listed but from the amino acid profile is there any way to get an idea how much soy is in it?

    Amino Acid - Per 100g Protein
    Isoleucine 4.05
    Leucine 7.50
    Lysine 6.27
    Methionine 1.38
    Phenylalanine 4.78
    Threonine 3.45
    Tryptophan 1.01
    Valine 4.18
    Alanine 3.88
    Arginine 6.80
    Aspartic Acid 10.94
    Cysteine 1.40
    Glutamic Acid 18.40
    Glycine 9.82
    Histidine 2.42
    Proline 4.90
    Serine 5.12
    Tyrosine 3.70


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    #6003
    RidleyRider
    Registered Users Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭RidleyRider


    deadlybuzzman wrote: »
    Just found this http://www.olympushealth.com/olympus-health-premium-protein-5kg.html?reviews#reviews

    Thats a seriously seriously cheap price but looking at the ingredients, soy is listed but from the amino acid profile is there any way to get an idea how much soy is in it?

    Amino Acid - Per 100g Protein
    Isoleucine 4.05
    Leucine 7.50
    Lysine 6.27
    Methionine 1.38
    Phenylalanine 4.78
    Threonine 3.45
    Tryptophan 1.01
    Valine 4.18
    Alanine 3.88
    Arginine 6.80
    Aspartic Acid 10.94
    Cysteine 1.40
    Glutamic Acid 18.40
    Glycine 9.82
    Histidine 2.42
    Proline 4.90
    Serine 5.12
    Tyrosine 3.70

    Mentioned it myself in the off topic a few weeks back and the soy content was also mentioned.


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    #6004
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,159 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It's 4th on the list so would be a max of 25% from soy. Probably lower though.


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    #6005
    john_cappa
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Mellor wrote: »
    It's 4th on the list so would be a max of 25% from soy. Probably lower though.

    Common misconception that companies prey on. Ingredients do have to display ingredients according to size however within the brackets of the blend part they don't so the soy could be the biggest. Not saying it is but being 4th on the list within the blend means jack unfortunately ).

    Crazy rule.


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    #6006
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    john_cappa wrote: »
    Common misconception that companies prey on. Ingredients do have to display ingredients according to size however within the brackets of the blend part they don't so the soy could be the biggest. Not saying it is but being 4th on the list within the blend means jack unfortunately ).

    Crazy rule.

    That's what I was thinking too hence I was wondering would someone in the know have an idea from the amino acid profile how bulked out it is with soy.


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    #6007
    Paddywiggum
    Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Paddywiggum


    deadlybuzzman wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking too hence I was wondering would someone in the know have an idea from the amino acid profile how bulked out it is with soy.

    unless youve an intolerance to soy, if your using this as a 'supplement' to diet then its good value.


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    #6008
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Paddywiggum wrote: »
    unless youve an intolerance to soy, if your using this as a 'supplement' to diet then its good value.

    I'd rather spend my money on whey and avoid soy as I've read enough to not have confidence that it doesnt negatively effect the male endocrine system.


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    #6009
    Paddywiggum
    Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭Paddywiggum


    deadlybuzzman wrote: »
    I'd rather spend my money on whey and avoid soy as I've read enough to not have confidence that it doesnt negatively effect the male endocrine system.

    yup there's def studies out there that could lead to concern, but from personal experience i went through 9kg soy isolate last summer on low carb, found it very effective. was from Oneon.co.uk.

    this year i cut with Nutrisport pea isolate, again very good.

    Imo if powders are a supplement only, which to me would be 25% or less of protein in diet, then the difference is negligible.

    but i would think this particular one is more than 50% soy, low price suggests it.


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    #6010
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Paddywiggum wrote: »
    yup there's def studies out there that could lead to concern, but from personal experience i went through 9kg soy isolate last summer on low carb, found it very effective. was from Oneon.co.uk.

    this year i cut with Nutrisport pea isolate, again very good.

    Imo if powders are a supplement only, which to me would be 25% or less of protein in diet, then the difference is negligible.

    but i would think this particular one is more than 50% soy, low price suggests it.

    I go through about 5kg of whey a month so its a pretty significant part of my diet, so I would have quiet a bit in my system on any given day.
    Yeah when I seen the price the old adage came to mind that if something looks too good to be true then it probably is :rolleyes:


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    #6011
    john_cappa
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Not to mention having glycine as a seperate ingredient to artificially inflate protein content...


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    #6012
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    john_cappa wrote: »
    Not to mention having glycine as a seperate ingredient to artificially inflate protein content...

    Sneaky feckers-apparently its a common trick with processed meats too. Manufacturers add soy as a cheap way to bump up the protein content


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    #6013
    john_cappa
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭john_cappa


    Not a supp but diced steak pieces are 1.74 per 400 g in lldl. Very cheap and good quality meat for casserole etc.

    Just cleared the fridge in my local. Only 12 packets but will be back tomorrow for more!!!


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    #6014
    deadlybuzzman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    john_cappa wrote: »
    Not a supp but diced steak pieces are 1.74 per 400 g in lldl. Very cheap and good quality meat for casserole etc.

    Just cleared the fridge in my local. Only 12 packets but will be back tomorrow for more!!!

    Brilliant timing! Im just about to go do the weeks shopping, plus Im only after getting a slow cooker and Im making lots of chili with round steak


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    #6015
    ColmH81
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭ColmH81


    deadlybuzzman wrote: »
    Apples and carrots, if you cant lose weight while eating your fill of these then you dont need to lose any more weight.... or you're actually a rabbit

    Hahaha...


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    #6016
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    ColmH81 wrote: »
    Anyone got any suggestions for appetite suppressants .. Ha.. Harder I train, hungrier I am.. Fat b#stard...

    Drink more water.


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    #6017
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    Just took the plunge and made my first order with TPW


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    #6018
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    Just took the plunge and made my first order with TPW

    TPW?


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    #6019
    ColmH81
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭ColmH81


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    TPW?

    The protein warehouse.. I believe..


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    #6020
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    The Protein Works
    Referral code for free proteins - ph17653


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    #6021
    Jofspring
    Registered Users Posts: 4,016 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Just a heads up lads, Elverys online are doing 25% off sports nutrition for anyone interested. You can pick up in store then after ordering online. Optimum Nutrition 908g Gold Standard Whey was 37.95 and online is 28.46.


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    #6022
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Tried the ON Platinum Pre...Didn't really feel much off, didn't seems to offer me much, think i'll stick with Craze(still have 1/2 a tub:D)


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    #6023
    ColmH81
    Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭ColmH81


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Tried the ON Platinum Pre...Didn't really feel much off, didn't seems to offer me much, think i'll stick with Craze(still have 1/2 a tub:D)

    In really hoping there's somewhere still selling Craze.. I'm running out..


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    #6024
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    The version of PRE is mad different from the US one isn't it?


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    #6025
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    The version of PRE is mad different from the US one isn't it?

    Oh really? Sure on the ON Irish site they don't seem to have it?


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    #6026
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    The version of PRE is mad different from the US one isn't it?
    Zombienosh wrote: »
    The version of PRE is mad different from the US one isn't it?

    Oh really? Sure on the ON Irish site they don't seem to have it?


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    #6027
    discus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Drink more water.

    Glutamine powder. 1 teaspoon in a glass of water. My sister and I were taking it for other reasons, and couldn't figure out why we weren't hungry. After looking it up online, we realised it was potentially the glutamine, and took it out of our diets. Took a few weeks to figure out though!


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    #6028
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    Oh really? Sure on the ON Irish site they don't seem to have it?

    Yeah sure it was out over there ages ago, were stricter on what ingredients are allowed in supplements compared to the states.


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    #6029
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    how would people rate this for someone who doesnt eat alot of fruit & veg?

    http://ie.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/superfood-xs/10530284.html


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    #6030
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    ColmH81 wrote: »
    In really hoping there's somewhere still selling Craze.. I'm running out..

    http://www.proteinsdepot.ie/driven-sports-craze-performance-fuel-238g.html


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    #6031
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭Ugo Monye spacecraft experience


    What is that Craze stuff like. Never really ventured far away from protein/creatine but I've good routine going at the moment so wouldn't mind trying something new! Any recommendations

    Goals include hypertrophy and losing that fecking bottom belly


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