Supplements

john_cappa · 13-05-2013 5:55pm

Not looked at product at al but there is nothing wrong with a 70 percent product. Half the product claiming 80 percent are actually closer to 70 as they often calculate on a dry basis rather than an as is basic, before flavouring and also make full use if the allowable margins of error (of course the product claiming 70 could also use the same tricks). Either way the difference between 70 or 80 percent product is negligible

Mac-Chops · 13-05-2013 6:06pm

xgtdec wrote: »

Im using carnivor chocolate and love it......blue raspberry...well ya should have known better:p

Considering picking a batch of this up next. Have heard good things!

NoQuarter · 13-05-2013 7:01pm

Anyone have any alternatives to an EC stack as ephedrine appears to be illegal over here?

What's the best easily obtainable substitute for ephedrine?

Unregistered. · 13-05-2013 7:11pm

Where is the best place to get unflavoured whey these days? Had a look on thesupplementfactory.com and was surprised to see that they no longer do unflavoured. Looking for stuff to mix with fruit in a shake.

A_Sober_Paddy · 13-05-2013 7:15pm

Anyone ever taken L-Tyrosine?

Heard it could be used as a pre workout?

Stella Virgo · 13-05-2013 7:22pm

more protein stuff here ,might be a shade cheaper in price......
http://www.evergreen.ie/sports-nutrition/11cat.aspx?bizfilteraltcat=11421470-84e5-44b2-ba1c-f341dcf34b04&bizpageno=2

Oisinjm · 13-05-2013 7:31pm

Stella Virgo wrote: »

more protein stuff here ,might be a shade cheaper in price......
http://www.evergreen.ie/sports-nutrition/11cat.aspx?bizfilteraltcat=11421470-84e5-44b2-ba1c-f341dcf34b04&bizpageno=2

Those prices are quite poor for what they seem to have in stock.

Anyone have any alternatives to an EC stack as ephedrine appears to be illegal over here?

What's the best easily obtainable substitute for ephedrine?

I'd advise you to do some research into the dangers of ephedrine and substitutes if you haven't already, but products containing Synephrine should be easy enough to find.

Where is the best place to get unflavoured whey these days? Had a look on thesupplementfactory.com and was surprised to see that they no longer do unflavoured. Looking for stuff to mix with fruit in a shake.

The Protein Works, MyProtein or BulkPowders

http://www.theproteinworks.com/
http://ie.myprotein.com/home.dept
http://www.bulkpowders.co.uk/

Oisín

NoQuarter · 13-05-2013 7:34pm

Oisinjm wrote: »

I'd advise you to do some research into the dangers of ephedrine and substitutes if you haven't already, but products containing Synephrine should be easy enough to find.

Thanks, I'm in the research phase now, looking at a 10 day PSMF diet in a week or too so I wouldnt be on it for long anyway. I'll check out Synephrine. Is it available in Dublin as is or would it just be the main ingredient in one of the commercial supps you find in stores?

Oisinjm · 13-05-2013 7:38pm

NoQuarter wrote: »

Thanks, I'm in the research phase now, looking at a 10 day PSMF diet in a week or too so I wouldnt be on it for long anyway. I'll check out Synephrine. Is it available in Dublin as is or would it just be the main ingredient in one of the commercial supps you find in stores?

I've only ever seen it as a main ingredient in fat burners to be honest but I'm sure it can be got on it's own. It isn't as strong/effective as ephedrine from what I've read.

Try in any of the big supplement shops and if you can't find it anywhere PM me. I'll be able to order it in to the shop I work in. It'll just take a week or so.

Oisín

NoQuarter · 13-05-2013 7:51pm

Oisinjm wrote: »

I've only ever seen it as a main ingredient in fat burners to be honest but I'm sure it can be got on it's own. It isn't as strong/effective as ephedrine from what I've read.

Try in any of the big supplement shops and if you can't find it anywhere PM me. I'll be able to order it in to the shop I work in. It'll just take a week or so.

Oisín

I'm unsure as yet if I actually even need it or if a regular fat burner will suffice. I'm basically looking for something to compliment a PSMF diet. It's recommended to take Caffeine and Ephedrine along with fish oil and a multivitamin during the diet.

Do you think a regular fat burner can replace the caffeine and ephedrine, I accept it may not be as good but that's fine. Or would a fat burner only replace the Ephedrine leaving it necessary to get caffeine capsules too. However, I'm aware that there is plenty of caffeine in fat burners anyway so that is probably my answer.

If a fat burner is an adequate replacement, is there any you recommend whilst on PSMF?

Gummy Panda · 13-05-2013 8:16pm

10% off at bulkpowders

n1ck · 13-05-2013 10:00pm

Ordered some ProteinWorks Chocolate Mint... tastes like complete arse!

Paddywiggum · 13-05-2013 11:04pm

NoQuarter wrote: »

I'm unsure as yet if I actually even need it or if a regular fat burner will suffice. I'm basically looking for something to compliment a PSMF diet. It's recommended to take Caffeine and Ephedrine along with fish oil and a multivitamin during the diet.

Do you think a regular fat burner can replace the caffeine and ephedrine, I accept it may not be as good but that's fine. Or would a fat burner only replace the Ephedrine leaving it necessary to get caffeine capsules too. However, I'm aware that there is plenty of caffeine in fat burners anyway so that is probably my answer.

If a fat burner is an adequate replacement, is there any you recommend whilst on PSMF?

to be honest you're wasting your time with anything other than pure ephedrine, the derivatives etc have little to no effect. best advice is just use caffeine, slowly build up a tolerance to 600mg per day, spread out. make sure you dont have any heart/blood pressure issues

Mr.Fun · 16-05-2013 10:11pm

As a beginner to weight lifting should I be taking protein supplements already, my diet doesnt reach the required protein intake. Should I wait a while before starting or start straight away? Apologies if it has been asked before, im new to the scene

Unregistered. · 16-05-2013 10:21pm

LPD10 - £10 off your order with Bulkpowders.

runawaybishop · 17-05-2013 12:02pm

Mr.Fun wrote: »

As a beginner to weight lifting should I be taking protein supplements already, my diet doesnt reach the required protein intake. Should I wait a while before starting or start straight away? Apologies if it has been asked before, im new to the scene

If you can't squeeze it not your normal diet then sure, take them now.

Paddywiggum · 21-05-2013 5:44pm

Have taken Agmatine and Citrulline Malate as preworkout on and off for about a month now. best pumps ive ever had from a preworkout.

1-2g Agmatine + 3-4g Citrulline. Sometimes add 2-3g Taurine.

It's especially handy for evening workouts if you dont want a stim in your preworkout which would interfere with sleep.

100g Agmatine €25 (50+workouts)
100g Citrulline Malate €12 (25workouts)

recommended.

DylanJM · 23-05-2013 11:29am

Just got my first delivery from the protein works and I'm very happy. 4kg of vanilla and 250g of jaffa cake. I've only tried the vanilla so far and I have no complaints. It has a very fine consistency and mixes very easily.

Delivery was very fast as well, ordered on the 21st and received it this morning.

Zombienosh · 30-05-2013 12:58pm

What are peoples opinions on protein blends? they seem to be getting bigger these days.
I like blends, some people just want whey isolate, I think sometimes the worry with blends is that it's of a lesser quality? But I like the idea of combining different protein sources.

A_Sober_Paddy · 02-06-2013 11:47pm

Hey all

Looking for some advice with regards to pre-workouts...

I'd like to advice anything loaded with sugar, what I'm looking for is just something that will just give me a little focus and a bit of a boost, ideally I'll be hitting the gym before work, my sessions will last around 45-60 minutes, will mainly be lifting as I'll plan on doing my cardio work after work or on days I'm not lifting.

I was thinking of a couple of options

Option 1: Tyrosine + BCAA
Option 2: Pre Made Pre Workout
Option 3: Stimulate based Thermogenic

I'd just like some advice on the matter

Cheers in advance

RidleyRider · 03-06-2013 12:14am

I got SAW anabolic pre workout and when I take it I feel so focused on my lifting. I haven't tried any other but this was awesome.

The beta alanine tingly feeling did where off after a few weeks but the focus is awesome.

siblers · 13-06-2013 12:03am

This may be a slightly daft question but when making protein shakes, can you just make a big batch and use them throughout the day? Or do you need to consume them within a certain period to get the most out of them?

RidleyRider · 13-06-2013 12:32am

A mate of mine believes that because I have my shake made before I go to the gym that I don't get the everything outta it. He has no reasoning though:pac:

The way I look at it is, it's in a bottle, where can it go?

ronanc15 · 13-06-2013 10:35am

RidleyRider wrote: »

A mate of mine believes that because I have my shake made before I go to the gym that I don't get the everything outta it. He has no reasoning though:pac:

The way I look at it is, it's in a bottle, where can it go?

Does it not smell like raw arse by the time you get to it?

Zombienosh · 13-06-2013 10:48am

^ That would be my main argument against it. Also it would be warm mouldy raw arse.

RidleyRider · 13-06-2013 11:59am

ronanc15 wrote: »

Does it not smell like raw arse by the time you get to it?

Not really, it's still pretty cold. It's only in my bag for 1 hour 30mins or so.

n1ck · 13-06-2013 2:00pm

Just throw some ice cubes in and it'd be fine.

JimmyCrackCorn · 13-06-2013 2:12pm

ronanc15 wrote: »

Does it not smell like raw arse by the time you get to it?

Lol

Now think about that smell on your gym bag if one leaks a little. When that stuff goes off its worse than a dead animal in a portaloo at oxygen.

Just get a scoup and a locking tuppaware box. Some of the BSA shakers have a bottom for powder.

Oisinjm · 13-06-2013 2:44pm

JimmyCrackCorn wrote: »

Lol

Now think about that smell on your gym bag if one leaks a little. When that stuff goes off its worse than a dead animal in a portaloo at oxygen.

Just get a scoup and a locking tuppaware box. Some of the BSA shakers have a bottom for powder.

Yeah something like a Core Shaker or Smart Shaker would do the job rather than mixing it pre gym. Or even a ziplock bag. I'd say it's much easier for the shaker to crack with something in it. That'd be my main issue.

Oisin

Col_Loki · 13-06-2013 3:01pm

Yeah something like a Core Shaker or Smart Shaker would do the job rather than mixing it pre gym. Or even a ziplock bag. I'd say it's much easier for the shaker to crack with something in it. That'd be my main issue.

Why not just have the dry powder in the shaker and add water when you are finished your workout? (I assume most would have a separate water bottle).

I have had the displeasure of smelling a protein shake after it had been left to its own devices for a few days.....dead animal is right. After that I prefer not to risk my container breaking in my gym bag while its mixed.

SmartShaker works too, pretty handy device.

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