The Hazards of Belief

amacachi

sensibleken wrote: »

I once went out with someone who did reiki on a pigeon.

I know.

I'll never get that desperate :pac:

Genghiz Cohen

amacachi wrote: »

I'll never get that desperate :pac:

I'm sure he found out the hard way.
*Comes home one night.
"Honey, I'm home!" *sniff* "What's that smell?"
"Nothing!"
"Smells like incense..."
"No, no no... It's dinner... yes"
*Shrugs "I'm just gonna get something out of the far room."
"NO DON'T GO IN THE-"
"What's this?"
"IT'S NOT WHAT YOU THINK I SWEAR!!"
and so on...

legspin

bnt wrote: »

I went looking on the Islam forum for some opinions about Islam and dogs. Now I have a headache. I wonder whether I'm an atheist because I prefer to use my limited brainpower on more constructive tasks than this ...

Oh, for fúcks sake. The mad bit is they expect it to be taken seriously.

Dades

Would I be right in assuming Muslims only use their left hand to shake "paw" with dogs?

seamus

All the Muslims in my area are visibly terrified of dogs, adults and children alike. I make a special effort to walk by them when I see them.

Well no, not really, but I definitely don't go out of my way to avoid them so as to not "offend them". My very existence could probably be interpreted as offensive to Muslims.

recedite

seamus wrote: »

All the Muslims in my area are visibly terrified of dogs, adults and children alike. I make a special effort to walk by them when I see them.

Well no, not really, but I definitely don't go out of my way to avoid them so as to not "offend them". My very existence could probably be interpreted as offensive to Muslims.

What breed are you? I hear they are more tolerant of a fast hunting hound. Try moving a bit quicker when passing them.

sensibleken

Just want to point out theres plenty of dog breeds from the 'islamic world'. Afghan, Salukhi etc

Gbear

Spotted this link from LiveLeak.

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The video is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. Absolutely NSFW and I would not recommend it to be seen by children.
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A deeply troubling video.

robindch

US retailer, JCPenney, appoints Ellen DeGeneres as spokesperson, causing One Million Moms to take grievous offense:

http://onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=436

JCPenney tell them to get stuffed.

MagicMarker

robindch wrote: »

US retailer, JCPenney, appoints Ellen DeGeneres as spokesperson, causing One Million Moms to take grievous offense:

http://onemillionmoms.com/IssueDetail.asp?id=436

JCPenney tell them to get stuffed.

Wrong thread?

Banned

coffee_cake

link wont work for me

Galvasean

sensibleken wrote: »

I once went out with someone who did reiki on a pigeon.

I know.

I once dated a homeopath. Does that make me a homeosexual?

Delirium

Gbear wrote: »

Spotted this link from LiveLeak.

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*****
The video is EXTREMELY GRAPHIC. Absolutely NSFW and I would not recommend it to be seen by children.
*****

A deeply troubling video.

A very upsetting/disturbing video. The men that carried out the acts contained in the video don't seem to view women as human. A right thinking person couldn't carry out those acts on an animal, never mind a human being

Gbear

bluewolf wrote: »

link wont work for me

In case you didn't see the edit I fixed the link.

Dades

EDIT

I'm not comfortable with a video that graphic being disseminated from here.
Disagree at will, or appeal to higher powers but so be it.

Link snipped. Suffice to say there's horror in this world, and some of it is justified by the interpretations of religion.

robindch

MagicMarker wrote: »

Wrong thread?

Gbear

Dades wrote: »

EDIT

I'm not comfortable with a video that graphic being disseminated from here.
Disagree at will, or appeal to higher powers but so be it.

Link snipped. Suffice to say there's horror in this world, and some of it is justified by the interpretations of religion.

Fair enough. I was a bit reluctant to post it in the first place and made bloody well sure it was tagged as graphic.

It's tough but I think sometimes those kinds of things are necessary to really hammer the point home.

fitz0

Gbear could you pm me the link?

Gbear

I use the news feed from Dawkins' website alot. Some people seem to have a problem with him but regardless there's good stuff to be had there.

Here's another good read about the difficulty in being an atheist in America.

We really have no idea in Ireland or really anywhere in Europe, other than in some extreme cases, about how bad religious intolerance can be just because you happen to have an affinity for logic and reason.

Turtwig

As seems to be my norm, I push the boundaries of this thread's with my irrelevant posts. However, I don't think I've read anything more depressing or toxic all day.

dmw07

Jernal wrote: »

I don't think I've read anything more depressing or toxic all day.

Cheer up. "If you torture the data long enough, it will confess" (Ronald Coase)

muppeteer

This story has resurfaced again, with a life sentence instead of death for aggravated homosexuality. Progress of a sort I guess:rolleyes:.

The highlighted last line really stands out in this piece though.

A BBC correspondent says MPs laughed, clapped and cried out: "Our bill, our bill," when its architect David Bahati reintroduced the draft legislation on Tuesday.

The Anti-Homosexuality Bill was shelved in 2011 after an international outcry.

It still increases the punishment to life in prison for homosexual offences.

Homosexual acts are already illegal in Uganda - a largely conservative society, where many condemn homosexuality.

Anyone failing to report to the authorities a person they knew to be homosexual would also be liable to prosecution.

The BBC's Joshua Mmali in the capital, Kampala, says Mr Bahati, the primary backer of the bill, has confirmed the draft legislation has changed in one fundamental way.

Those found guilty of "aggravated homosexuality" - defined as when one of the participants is a minor, HIV-positive, disabled or a "serial offender" - would no longer face the death penalty, as originally proposed.

A parliamentary committee recommended the revision, after the original legislation was condemned by Western leaders, including Barack Obama who described it as "odious", and threatened to cut off aid to Uganda.

Mr Bahati hopes his private member's bill will finally be debated during this parliamentary session, which opened on Tuesday.

The MP leads the ruling party caucus in parliament, so the proposed legislation would never have been tabled without the government's backing, our reporter says.

The bill was first introduced in 2009, but has never made it to a debate in the chamber.




In recent years, some gay rights groups have been set up in Uganda.

In January 2011, gay rights activist David Kato was killed in what some said was a hate crime - the police said it was linked to a robbery.

At his funeral, the priest condemned gay people.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16928608

Turtwig

Today the two main experiments at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world’s most powerful particle accelerator, submitted the results of their latest analyses. The new papers boost the case for December’s announcement of a possible Higgs signal, but let’s not get too excited.

First, there’s no new data in there—the LHC stopped colliding protons back in November, and these latest results are just rehashes that earlier run. In the case of the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS), physicists have been able to look at another possible kind of Higgs decay, and that allows them to boost their Higgs signal from 2.5σ to 3.1σ. Taken together with data from the other detector, ATLAS, Higgs overall signal now unofficially stands at about 4.3σ. In other words, if statistics are to be believed, then this signal has about a 99.996 percent chance of being right.

Source.

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Delirium

Author: Blacks too smart for atheism

The author of a new book that shows how America is buying into Adolf Hitler’s belief system regarding those who are “not human,” says the black community is much too smart to be hoodwinked by a campaign promoted by atheists during February’s Black History Month.

“Atheistic evolution isn’t an intelligent belief, as atheists would have the black community believe,” said Ray Comfort, whose new project is “Hitler, God, and the Bible.”

“It’s a philosophy for the dumbest of the dumb, and it’s an insult to the black heritage to try and hoodwink them into believing that nothing created everything,” he said.

“That’s a scientific impossibility, and African Americans have got too much intelligence to believe such an insane worldview. That’s why there are so few black atheists. Most atheists are white, educated, and greatly lacking when it comes to common sense,” he said.

His comments came amid confirmation from American atheists that they have begun a national advertising campaign to target America’s black community.

Debbie Goddard, director of African Americans for Humanism, told The Christian Post this week, “A lot of people think that if someone’s black it means that they’re religious. So we want to be able to show people that that’s not true, that there are non-religious people out there.”

Comfort said the warning signs are explained in his book, which outlines the atrocities of Hitler and how the dictator’s worldview allowed him to destroy millions of lives because they weren’t really “human.”

He notes that that is the same attitude that the American abortion industry has adopted. Its leaders say the unborn, the estimated 50 million plus who have died in America’s abortion clinics, aren’t really human, either.

“The black community should be made aware that atheism is a slippery slope into abortion, and that will further decimate the African American population. Remove God from any society and it will naturally embrace the godless worldview of Darwinian evolution,” he said.

Comfort, who also works with actor Kirk Cameron on a popular TV series called “The Way of the Master,” produced the sensational 30-minute documentary “180″ as part of his work on the book.

In the documentary, he takes his video camera to the streets and asks what people knew about the infamous German tyrant and mass murderer. He returned shocked – with footage of 14 people (mainly university students) who didn’t have a clue as to who Hitler was. When he posted the movie on the Internet, it received 2.1 million views in just over three months. Since then, hundreds of thousands of copies have been both sold and given away.

He said most who believe in evolution have no idea that the Nazi Holocaust had its roots in Darwin’s concept of “survival of the fittest.”

“In recent years biologists have deliberately distanced themselves from that phrase and instead used ‘natural selection,’ because ‘survival of the fittest’ is easily linked to Hitler’s killing of the weak and letting the strongest survive. Atheism almost always embraces Darwinian evolution, which would have people believe that they are merely animals, and that there are no moral absolutes. I have been going to universities and challenging students to convince me that evolution has a scientific basis. No-one can offer any proof, because Darwin’s evolution is scientifically baseless. All they have are theories that have to be received in blind faith,” he said.

He also noted that the American abortion industry for years already has been targeting the black community.

In fact, The National Black Catholic Congress has weighed in on the issue, challenging its members to choose the cause of death most costly to the black community, since 1973.

“Think about it for a minute. Is it heart disease – 2,266,789 deaths since 1973, cancer – 1,638,350, or accidents – 370,723? It is AIDS – 203,695, or violent crimes – 306,313? There is one possibility that is often overlooked. It happens 1,452 times a day in our community. It has taken over 13 million black lives within the last 30 years. It has taken 1/3 of our present population. What is it? ABORTION!”

The group continued, “The CDC reports that of the approximately 4,000 abortions that are performed daily in the United States, 1,452 of them are performed on African American women and their pre-born children. This means that although African Americans represent only 12 percent of the population in the United States, they account for 35 percent of the abortions,” the report said.

Source

Sarky

That poor guy, I didn't think humans could get such a strong dose of the galloping crazies and survive long enough to write a book.

robindch

Sarky wrote: »

That poor guy, I didn't think humans could get such a strong dose of the galloping crazies and survive long enough to write a book.

Galloping crazies?

Nah, Ray Comfort is bananas.

seamus

And of course, if I make the obvious assertion that black people in America are on the whole less educated and less "intelligent" than white people, I am the one who would be considered racist. But it's not racist to claim that black people are smarter than white people.

Of course, black people in America are less "intelligent"* due to socio-economic factors, not due to biology or the colour of their skin. Since every study has indicated that there's a direct correlation between atheism and intelligence, then it seems logical that less black Americans are atheist since more black Americans are poor and less educated.

*I use the word "intelligent" in the sense of purely academic and social achievement, not the literal meaning of one's ability to apply learned knowledge to the real world

joseph brand

koth wrote: »

Author: Blacks too smart for atheism

From reading that article I assumed Ray Comfort was Afro American himself. Turns out he's a Jewish-turned Evangelical 'Bat Sh1t Crazy' Christian, who looks like a 70's porn star.

What a shyster!

Ray Comfort: That’s why there are so few black atheists. Most atheists are white, educated,

Thanks Ray.

Gbear

koth wrote: »

Author: Blacks too smart for atheism

And here's a cheerful counterpoint.

I think that the black community in particular, not just in the US but in the UK aswell suffer by and large from a lack of education as a product of poverty. It seems to lead to a disproportionate amount of woolly thinking.

We need more movements like in the above link.

Edit: Oh and an article written by Lawrence Krauss in the guardian.

The comments are so typically ignorant that I fear for the future of humanity.

Delirium

:eek::eek: