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Walker WP645TS-HD

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  • 03-05-2012 7:59pm
    #1
    bpmurray
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    I just bought one of these from Powercity after my old box was killed by a lightning strike last weeekend. I've scanned the Satellite channels, and that worked fine. However, this also has a DVB-T receiver, but I can't see how to scan for DTT without deleting the Satellite channels. Is it even possible? It was quite an expensive box, so I assumed (foolishly perhaps) that it was capable of actually handling its own twin tuners.


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    #2
    bpmurray
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    Found it! The "OPT" button switches between Sat & DTT.


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    STB
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    Oh interesting, this is the long awaited Walker Combo box.

    Photos please! Back and front if you can. The Power City picture looks like its a DVB680 chassis from Vestel.

    Cant you combine the channels in a favourite list ?

    Is there an option to turn on 7 day epg ?

    What effect does this have for satellite ? Are you getting 7 days worth of epg ?

    What about red button does that work on satellite (BBC1 for example). What about MHEG5 (press the text button on both Sat and DTT).


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    Digital Satellite TV
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Digital Satellite TV


    STB wrote: »
    Oh interesting, this is the long awaited Walker Combo box.

    Photos please! Back and front if you can. The Power City picture looks like its a DVB680 chassis from Vestel.

    Cant you combine the channels in a favourite list ?

    Is there an option to turn on 7 day epg ?

    What effect does this have for satellite ? Are you getting 7 days worth of epg ?

    What about red button does that work on satellite (BBC1 for example). What about MHEG5 (press the text button on both Sat and DTT).

    from what we gather, no 7 day EPG on sat. Are awaiting samples for testing, will do up the usual videos and we'll see wots wot then. Should have them today or tuesday.


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    Compton
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    its not even saorview approved is it?


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    zg3409
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    Compton wrote: »
    its not even saorview approved is it?

    I think it is. It does not say so on powercity's site but here it says it is:

    http://electrocraft.ie/blog/?p=23
    Walker Technology Products have annouced that their products have been approved by RTE involving Saorview services which is to include the new Walker High Definition combi set-top box(WP645TS HD) which has just been released to the Irish market.


    I think that is what they are saying anyway!

    No mention of it nor manual on Walker's site:
    http://www.walker.ie/products/WP645TS-HD.html

    It's not on the official Saorview site, yet anyway

    The other approved combo (Trax TSC114) s about €180 so nice to see some competition. Hopefully it has some nice features.


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    +1 on the competition...

    we're were assured that it is/will be saorview approved, may not just be on the official site yet. wouldn't be the first time that a new box was not listed in a timely fashion on the saorview site.

    As for the nice features. We have yet to test fully but our understanding is that the TSC114 is more user friendly and functional with regards to channel list and recording but have to wait to get one in our hands to do the videos and see for sure.


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    zg3409
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    User Manual Attached. Enjoy


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    walker.jpg


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    STB
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    Digital Satellite TV wrote: »
    from what we gather, no 7 day EPG on sat. Are awaiting samples for testing, will do up the usual videos and we'll see wots wot then. Should have them today or tuesday.

    Do you stock the Sat only WP75 SAT-HD Dave ?

    I have seen claims of 7 day epg on these (apparently a turn on option in the menu). Would be great if someone could clear that up.

    It might also point towards chances of software changes on the combos despite their awful vestel look.


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    STB wrote: »
    Do you stock the Sat only WP75 SAT-HD Dave ?

    I have seen claims of 7 day epg on these (apparently a turn on option in the menu). Would be great if someone could clear that up.

    It might also point towards chances of software changes on the combos despite their awful vestel look.

    Can't answer the stocking question here, commecrial interaction and all that....

    Looking forward to getting our hands on the combo though, put it through it's paces after all the speculation about the 7 day EPG on sat.


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    STB
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    Not from a commercial interaction perspective. I am interested to see if Walker linked these to the Sky open EPG data transponder (as was claimed in the Saorsat thread) and mimics the 7 day epg feel.

    If you do stock them, can you have a look at one to see if it does 7 day epg on sat .

    If they did it for them, then it could be easily done on the combo version assuming they are using the same software template on both, which I am sure they are.


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    STB wrote: »
    Not from a commercial interaction perspective. I am interested to see if Walker linked these to the Sky open EPG data transponder (as was claimed in the Saorsat thread) and mimics the 7 day epg feel.

    If you do stock them, can you have a look at one to see if it does 7 day epg on sat .

    If they did it for them, then it could be easily done on the combo version assuming they are using the same software template on both, which I am sure they are.

    ain't got one so... will prob get a sample alright


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    #14
    dubber
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    They really need to recruit an industrial designer.


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    #15
    Digital Satellite TV
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    dubber wrote: »
    They really need to recruit an industrial designer.


    you know what they say, beauty is on the inside and all that. Saw it today in the flesh for the first time and the picture ain't doing it much favours at all. It's a black chassis (top and sides) and the front is a kindo of reflective silver type deal-e-o.


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    STB wrote: »
    Oh interesting, this is the long awaited Walker Combo box.

    Photos please! Back and front if you can. The Power City picture looks like its a DVB680 chassis from Vestel.

    Cant you combine the channels in a favourite list ?

    Is there an option to turn on 7 day epg ?

    What effect does this have for satellite ? Are you getting 7 days worth of epg ?

    What about red button does that work on satellite (BBC1 for example). What about MHEG5 (press the text button on both Sat and DTT).


    Cant you combine the channels in a favourite list? Didn't try yet

    Is there an option to turn on 7 day epg ? no

    What effect does this have for satellite ? Are you getting 7 days worth of epg ? no

    What about red button does that work on satellite (BBC1 for example). What about MHEG5 (press the text button on both Sat and DTT). yes, works for both, zippy enough on saorview end of things, loads like a dog, but works on satellite end.


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    kerryman
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    I got one today. No 7 day guide on satellite but it has got the red button featureon BBC1. Very poor Satellite scan never picked up channel 5 on Automatic scan.


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    #18
    cyberhog
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    I rang Saorview and they told me the WP645TS HD is not an approved receiver.


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    Digital Satellite TV
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    cyberhog wrote: »
    I rang Saorview and they told me the WP645TS HD is not an approved receiver.

    It is not curently but after chatting with Walker, they expect if to become so in the next couple/few weeks. That's what they say anyway.


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    galtee boy
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    I thought I read on these forums some time back, that Walker were soon to release a combo box that did have 7 day epg for satellite aswell as Saorview ? that they were somehow going to "legally" copy or mirror the Freesat epg ? Was I dreaming or will such a box still appear ? This one obviously isnt it.


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    zg3409
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    galtee boy wrote: »
    I thought I read on these forums some time back, that Walker were soon to release a combo box that did have 7 day epg for satellite aswell as Saorview ? that they were somehow going to "legally" copy or mirror the Freesat epg ? Was I dreaming or will such a box still appear ? This one obviously isnt it.

    Powercity has been selling a Sat only Walker box that seems to use the freesat EPG but is not freesat approved. No proper review by anyone.

    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-24-WP75HD&pages=1&prod=WP75HD&brands=WALKER&image=
    7 Day Program Guide

    It was revealed here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76461857

    It is NOT legal to use the freesat EPG. There has already been court cases on that front.

    They also seem to have a newer model which seems to record:
    WP95SAT-HD
    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-24-WP95SAT&pages=1&prod=WP95SAT&brands=WALKER&image=

    It also claims 7 day EPG. Neither of the above boxes are Saorsat approved. I don't know of anyone that has used them on Saorsat since the service launched so I don't know about the EPG on the Irish Channels.
    Ciaran999 wrote: »
    From last year:
    Apparently a TRIAX Saorview/Saorsat approved combi STB will be on the shelves sometime in Feb. Pick your own combination of services. Similar Walker combi STB on the shelves in late Feb/March. 7 day EPG Saoview and Saorsat, now and next FTA satellite. Will have to wait and see if this Walker box will do the Freesat emulation trick.

    We hoped when they launched a Combo box it would continue the trend. They seem to be legally afraid to continue the trend. The legal way around it would be to pay for their own guide to be broadcast on 28.2 or use an internet connection to do the same. This would naturally cost more. Each channel could also send 7 day information instead of now/next like some German stations do, but BBC etc. have a vested interest in promoting FreeSat


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    galtee boy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭galtee boy


    zg3409 wrote: »
    Powercity has been selling a Sat only Walker box that seems to use the freesat EPG but is not freesat approved. No proper review by anyone.

    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-24-WP75HD&pages=1&prod=WP75HD&brands=WALKER&image=



    It was revealed here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=76461857

    It is NOT legal to use the freesat EPG. There has already been court cases on that front.

    They also seem to have a newer model which seems to record:
    WP95SAT-HD
    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-24-WP95SAT&pages=1&prod=WP95SAT&brands=WALKER&image=

    It also claims 7 day EPG. Neither of the above boxes are Saorsat approved. I don't know of anyone that has used them on Saorsat since the service launched so I don't know about the EPG on the Irish Channels.



    We hoped when they launched a Combo box it would continue the trend. They seem to be legally afraid to continue the trend. The legal way around it would be to pay for their own guide to be broadcast on 28.2 or use an internet connection to do the same. This would naturally cost more. Each channel could also send 7 day information instead of now/next like some German stations do, but BBC etc. have a vested interest in promoting FreeSat

    Thanks for all the info, but in a nutshell, there is no combi box with 7 day epg for both satellite and saorview, nor is there likely to be ?


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    zg3409
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    galtee boy wrote: »
    Thanks for all the info, but in a nutshell, there is no combi box with 7 day epg for both satellite and saorview, nor is there likely to be ?

    No and no. The nearest is some other makes of boxes. The best I think is a dual Sat tuner that also takes two USB stick tuners for Saorview. With a patch it steals the Freesat EPG and gives 7 days for both with true PVR

    The thread is here:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056275960

    It's off topic for this thread.


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    STB
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    galtee boy wrote: »
    Thanks for all the info, but in a nutshell, there is no combi box with 7 day epg for both satellite and saorview, nor is there likely to be ?

    Technomates.... and phantom patches. Not linux.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056328579&page=2


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    B bopp
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    Just as a matter of interest what price premium do ye think a full 7 day epg combo box could sustain over the likes of the Ferguson and other similar priced boxes..... Do you think a dual tuner is a must have....


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    Tony
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    Thats an interesting question. I'd love to know what guys think would be an acceptable price.

    B bopp wrote: »
    Just as a matter of interest what price premium do ye think a full 7 day epg combo box could sustain over the likes of the Ferguson and other similar priced boxes......

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    Johnboy1951
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    It really would depend on the difference in finctionality ...... for instance I have no requirement for dual tuners for SAT or Saorview, but would like a combo box that is both Saorview approved and has 7 day EPG for SAT.


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    byte
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    byte


    Funny, somebody mentioned to me the other week that the Walker combo, that was supposed to have the Sat4Free/Freesat listings was no longer, due to legal issues. I didn't hear that from Walker themselves, just somebody else I'd consider "in the know" albeit a rival.

    As these boxes have LAN ports, I would assume it'd be technically possible for them to scrape EPG listings from somewhere, just like Linux boxes do. I don't think it needs much, except maybe some site to aggregate XML TV listings.

    As for how much to pay, I'd imagine anything over 189/199 price point is pushing it a bit, expecially for single tuner STB's.


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    zg3409
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    In today's Irish Indo there is a leaflet insert from http://www.expert.ie

    It says the WP645TS-HD is Saorview approved, or at least a photo of the same item with no model number shown. On their site it's €155 with option to collect in store.
    http://www.expert.ie/Product/Walker-WP645TSHD-Combi-TerrestrialSatellite-HD-Receiver/297878/1.10

    in the brochure it's €159


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    Digital Satellite TV
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Digital Satellite TV


    zg3409 wrote: »
    In today's Irish Indo there is a leaflet insert from http://www.expert.ie

    It says the WP645TS-HD is Saorview approved, or at least a photo of the same item with no model number shown. On their site it's €155 with option to collect in store.
    http://www.expert.ie/Product/Walker-WP645TSHD-Combi-TerrestrialSatellite-HD-Receiver/297878/1.10

    in the brochure it's €159

    Is pending approval, last we heard when we spoke to walker. Not on approved list yet anyway http://www.saorview.ie/product/walker/ but that list can be slow sometimes to be updated.


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    Tony
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    byte wrote: »
    Funny, somebody mentioned to me the other week that the Walker combo, that was supposed to have the Sat4Free/Freesat listings was no longer, due to legal issues.

    Yes it is sold without 7 day guide for freesat but a software patch restores it in the same way as technomate have been doing for quite a while.

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