Cancelled and Rescheduled gigs

Zardoz · 13-01-2021 7:15pm

Interesting study

https://www.iq-mag.net/2021/01/second-german-study-konzerthaus-dortmundshows-venues-not-places-infection/#.X_80nJP7SCc

There is little risk of an infected person transmitting Covid-19 even in an indoor concert venue, reveals a study of aerosol transmission at Konzerthaus Dortmund

rubadub · 13-01-2021 9:52pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Interesting study

Pic of it here. Doesn't look like most venues I would be going to here

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Eod100 · 13-01-2021 10:48pm

rubadub wrote: »

Pic of it here. Doesn't look like most venues I would be going to here

Looks kinda like the NCH

rubadub · 13-01-2021 10:54pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Looks kinda like the NCH

It does, just wanted to show a pic in case people did not click the link and had pictured "indoor concert venue" as being something else.

Eod100 · 14-01-2021 12:06am

rubadub wrote: »

It does, just wanted to show a pic in case people did not click the link and had pictured "indoor concert venue" as being something else.

Ah yeah makes sense. Think there was talk of trial gigs in NCH around Christmas but say it might not have happened with the cases getting so high.

ghostdancer · 14-01-2021 12:21am

Primavera allegedly moving from first weekend in June to 9th-11th September. Same weekend as Parklife and Lovebox have moved to. Talk of All Points East being on that weekend too.

Governors Ball in NYC has officially moved from that same weekend in June to the 24th-26th Sept.

https://twitter.com/GovBallNYC/status/1349393696085712899

PTH2009 · 14-01-2021 1:15am

ghostdancer wrote: »

Primavera allegedly moving from first weekend in June to 9th-11th September. Same weekend as Parklife and Lovebox have moved to. Talk of All Points East being on that weekend too.

Governors Ball in NYC has officially moved from that same weekend in June to the 24th-26th Sept.

https://twitter.com/GovBallNYC/status/1349393696085712899

Pity we don't have the climate for Autumn/winter outdoor gigs in Ireland but hoepfully they might permit indoor gigs for that time. A decent lineup in the 3Arena already listed

Obviously extremely disappointing no gigs for the summer

punchdrunk · 14-01-2021 11:37am

hi guys i've got tickets for three upcoming gigs for
god is an astronaut in the academy on march 12th ( rescheduled from last year)

doves scheduled for april 6th in the olympia

the frames in june (rescheduled from last summer)

let's be honest none of these is going to go ahead so can i request a refund now?

Eod100 · 14-01-2021 11:44am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Pity we don't have the climate for Autumn/winter outdoor gigs in Ireland but hoepfully they might permit indoor gigs for that time. A decent lineup in the 3Arena already listed

Obviously extremely disappointing no gigs for the summer

Guess EP would count in Autumn. Not sure about UK having decent weather then for the festivals moved to September either!

Not sure are they pushed out of hope that they will go ahead then or expectation that they won't and be pushed out to next summer. Easier to keep money until then and encourage people to hold on to tickets again for next one.

Eod100 · 15-01-2021 1:02pm

I see Aiken have rescheduled a gig from March to May 2022.

Guess they will have to make a call on Marquee and Iveagh Gardens gigs sooner rather than later.

https://twitter.com/aikenpromotions/status/1350020338403446784

hkjohn · 15-01-2021 3:29pm

Eod100 wrote: »

I see Aiken have rescheduled a gig from middle of March to middle of May which seems fairly pointless.

Guess they will have to make a call on Marquee and Iveagh Gardens gigs sooner rather than later.

https://twitter.com/aikenpromotions/status/1350020338403446784

The new date is in 2022 though

Eod100 · 15-01-2021 3:34pm

hkjohn wrote: »

The new date is in 2022 though

Do'oh, you're right! I'm still getting used to it being 2021 so dunno how i missed that..

hkjohn · 15-01-2021 5:34pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Do'oh, you're right! I'm still getting used to it being 2021 so dunno how i missed that..

15 months and mid-2022 is probably the most realistic piece of rescheduling in this entire thread

The Nal · 17-01-2021 2:00pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Could EP go off in October or is that crazy?

punchdrunk · 17-01-2021 2:00pm

Mr.S wrote: »

Certainly optimistic re September. Leo on the news this morning said they hope to vaccinate with a first dose by then too.

Could EP go off in October or is that crazy?

EP in October would be a quagmire

T55PLUS · 17-01-2021 2:24pm

What's the story with rescheduled events. Is it still possible to get a refund?

Alternatively better tickets for the gig have opened up due to presumable people cancelling tickets. Is it possible to get tickets transferred to a different seat of the same price?

Cheers

hkjohn · 17-01-2021 7:00pm

I think it is extremely unlikely there are going to be any gigs of any kind within this year. We all saw what happened when the govt kowtowed to the bunch of stupid eejiits who decided we had to have Christmas. Can't see them making the same mistake twice

Samsonsmasher · 17-01-2021 7:03pm

The Nal wrote: »

Tens of thousands of the people who are currently obeying the restrictions will be jobless and homeless and living in tents by the time they are lifted so this will actually happen.

punchdrunk · 17-01-2021 7:30pm

Mr.S wrote: »

wrap up warm, be fine.

Given that half the people who show up do so with no more than a Wendy House for a tent, flip-flops and a penny’s rainjacket I think it’s safe to say hundreds would die!!!!

hynesie08 · 17-01-2021 9:41pm

hkjohn wrote: »

I think it is extremely unlikely there are going to be any gigs of any kind within this year. We all saw what happened when the govt kowtowed to the bunch of stupid eejiits who decided we had to have Christmas. Can't see them making the same mistake twice

So at no point this year will someone perform live music in front of a crowd? That's just wrong, considering it happened last year......

If you're pro government and anti NPHET, then our esteemed government have said all vaccinations will be done by August, how will there be no gigs this year?

hkjohn · 18-01-2021 11:29am

hynesie08 wrote: »

So at no point this year will someone perform live music in front of a crowd? That's just wrong, considering it happened last year......

If you're pro government and anti NPHET, then our esteemed government have said all vaccinations will be done by August, how will there be no gigs this year?

Are the words "I think it extremely unlikely" not clear enough for you?

Perhaps I should have added in the caveat "in front of anything other than a socially distanced audience".

Given that you yourself meekly accept the government's (imho) overly optimistic vaccines forecast, dismissing me as pro-government and NYPHET on the basis of one post is a bit rich.

Lithium93_ · 18-01-2021 11:37am

Based on their before Christmas ignoring of NPHET advice, I wouldn't trust anything that comes from Government regarding vaccine timetables.

They haven't a notion between them.

T55PLUS · 18-01-2021 3:18pm

T55PLUS wrote: »

What's the story with rescheduled events. Is it still possible to get a refund?

Alternatively better tickets for the gig have opened up due to presumable people cancelling tickets. Is it possible to get tickets transferred to a different seat of the same price?

Cheers

Anyone?

T55PLUS · 18-01-2021 3:33pm

T55PLUS wrote: »

What's the story with rescheduled events. Is it still possible to get a refund?

Alternatively better tickets for the gig have opened up due to presumable people cancelling tickets. Is it possible to get tickets transferred to a different seat of the same price?

Cheers

Anyone?

Zardoz · 18-01-2021 3:54pm

T55PLUS wrote: »

Anyone?

If the date of an event is changed you are entitled to a refund.
You will have to contact Ticketmaster or whoever the seller is to process the refund.

If you see better tickets on Ticketmaster you can have them upgraded under the fan guarantee
https://help.ticketmaster.ie/hc/en-ie/articles/360019928573-Fan-Guarantee

We can only offer exchanges for tickets in the same price bracket or higher, subject to a €6 admin fee per booking. Please be aware that if an event does sell out, an exchange won't be available.

PTH2009 · 18-01-2021 5:19pm

Remember they had full capacity shows in the 3Arena a little under a week til lockdown 1 last March

Did any covid cases come from that?

Eod100 · 18-01-2021 5:55pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Remember they had full capacity shows in the 3Arena a little under a week til lockdown 1 last March

Did any covid cases come from that?

I don't think the tracing would be that resourced to know definitively either way and probably relatively small number of cases at the start before it got widespread.

Eod100 · 18-01-2021 6:25pm

Lucky feckers! https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1351183273511288833?s=19

PTH2009 · 20-01-2021 4:09pm

Country 2 Country 2021 has been cancelled with tickets now valid for the 2022 event which will take place in the 3Arena on 11-13 March 2022

Sadly first of many cancellations/reschedules for 2021

Eod100 · 20-01-2021 7:35pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Country 2 Country 2021 has been cancelled with tickets now valid for the 2022 event which will take place in the 3Arena on 11-13 March 2022

Sadly first of many cancellations/reschedules for 2021

Yeah I've a few gigs coming up in April, May and June. Just waiting for them to be cancelled at this stage unfortunately.

Milena009 · 20-01-2021 7:55pm

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah I've a few gigs coming up in April, May and June. Just waiting for them to be cancelled at this stage unfortunately.

Same
I have about three gigs in June ( all open air) however just waiting for cancellations at this point as it's been already postponed from last year.

PTH2009 · 20-01-2021 10:27pm

Same have 2 3Arena shows in March/April which will be either postponed or cancelled

The Who- 5th March 21 (rescheduled from 18th March 2020)
Genesis- 15th April 21 (rescheduled from 16th November 2020)

Onto the summer yet again looking like we will see cancellations/postponements

My 2 shows are for MCR in KH and Hella Mega tour in the RDS

Only have Elton John for the end of this year and I'm praying ill be there for that. He's due to a start touring in September and hopefully the world will be in a better position by then and also that UK visa issue will be sorted successfully by then

FellasFellas · 21-01-2021 3:14am

If everyone tested negative 48 hours before and wore masks in an outdoor gig, would that not allow gigs to go ahead? Is it just an insurance thing?

hynesie08 · 21-01-2021 11:54am

FellasFellas wrote: »

If everyone tested negative 48 hours before and wore masks in an outdoor gig, would that not allow gigs to go ahead? Is it just an insurance thing?

You could not put on an outdoor gig in ireland (or anywhere) and make money without a bar, so that's a no go unfortunately.

Eod100 · 21-01-2021 12:19pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

If everyone tested negative 48 hours before and wore masks in an outdoor gig, would that not allow gigs to go ahead? Is it just an insurance thing?

I think the big hurdle would be whether thousands of people could meet and then even if they could social distrancing would exist so not sure how it would work for large outdoor gigs. For tests maybe it would be part of gigs returning but guess someone could pick it up after the test or get a false not detected result. Then whether bands can come over from abroad if they have to quarantine for 5 days and then get a test etc.

nc6000 · 21-01-2021 1:47pm

Not good.....

https://twitter.com/glastonbury/status/1352234300754812930

Exclamation Marc · 21-01-2021 2:00pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

If everyone tested negative 48 hours before and wore masks in an outdoor gig, would that not allow gigs to go ahead? Is it just an insurance thing?

The enormous issue is how verification of tests would work because unless there is an absolutely foolproof system in place where they can be verified and verified to that attendee, the entire venue could be exposed and a massive outbreak occur if its either not policed or not secured.

Then there is the related issue of being refused access because you don't have verification of a test - will terms and conditions adequately cover this. And if a gig is cancelled at last minute notice due to a failed or unverified test for the act, it would cost a fortune where the alternative is just to postpone the gig til it will categorically go ahead

Additionally, wearing masks is impossible to police and people will take them off to eat/drink at the very least.

Gigs just wont happen until everyone is vaccinated unless they are sit down gigs with small, easy to police, attendance numbers.

Basq · 21-01-2021 2:08pm

nc6000 wrote: »

Not good.....

Inevitable.. and the right decision..

.. but still a punch in the gut!

Eod100 · 21-01-2021 2:11pm

nc6000 wrote: »

Not good.....

https://twitter.com/glastonbury/status/1352234300754812930

Think that could be it for big gigs and festivals this summer unfortunately. Writing was on the wall alright.

fafy · 22-01-2021 2:32pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Same have 2 3Arena shows in March/April which will be either postponed or cancelled

The Who- 5th March 21 (rescheduled from 18th March 2020)
Genesis- 15th April 21 (rescheduled from 16th November 2020)

Onto the summer yet again looking like we will see cancellations/postponements

My 2 shows are for MCR in KH and Hella Mega tour in the RDS

Only have Elton John for the end of this year and I'm praying ill be there for that. He's due to a start touring in September and hopefully the world will be in a better position by then and also that UK visa issue will be sorted successfully by then

Genesis @ 3Arena, is now rescheduled to Wednesday September 15th & Thursday September 16th

PTH2009 · 22-01-2021 3:44pm

fafy wrote: »

Genesis @ 3Arena, is now rescheduled to Wednesday September 15th & Thursday September 16th

September seems a bit ambitious again

Jesus how great would it be if this was to turn it on again

Eod100 · 22-01-2021 3:54pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

September seems a bit ambitious again

Jesus how great would it be if this was to turn it on again

I guess gigs in indoor venues can do the postpone a bit further each time whereas festivals and gigs in summer it will have to be next year at earliest.

loveisdivine · 23-01-2021 3:12pm

Someone might have asked this earlier on, but is there any contingency with Ticketmaster in the case that you have 2 events rescheduled to the same date?

I've got tickets to go to Genesis in Birmingham with my parents on 21/09 but they have also had a Jethro Tull gig rescheduled to the same date. So not sure what our options are now.

Penfailed · 23-01-2021 3:46pm

loveisdivine wrote: »

Someone might have asked this earlier on, but is there any contingency with Ticketmaster in the case that you have 2 events rescheduled to the same date?

I've got tickets to go to Genesis in Birmingham with my parents on 21/09 but they have also had a Jethro Tull gig rescheduled to the same date. So not sure what our options are now.

Pick one and get a refund on the other.

loveisdivine · 23-01-2021 3:56pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Pick one and get a refund on the other.

I've been trying to find the refund policy on ticketmaster but they don't make it easy. I wasn't sure we would be able to just get a refund. The ideal solution would be to go to Genesis on one of the other nights as they are playing 3 nights. I suppose I'll have to get on to ticketmaster and see what the options are.

Thanks!

PTH2009 · 23-01-2021 4:26pm

Thats happening with me too. Crowded House in Trinity is the same night as Hella Mega tour in the RDS

I sold the Crowded House ticket on toutless early last year. I kept the buyers email address and will sort it out if that gig gets cancelled completely

fafy · 23-01-2021 8:09pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

September seems a bit ambitious again

Jesus how great would it be if this was to turn it on again

Agreed, i don’t believe this will go ahead

PTH2009 · 24-01-2021 5:20pm

fafy wrote: »

Agreed, i don’t believe this will go ahead

I think it will eventually. Can't see them spending so much money on the set etc and cancelling it

Hopefully sooner rather then later

Eod100 · 26-01-2021 9:24am

Probably not too surprising but not looking good for gigs or festivals this summer unfortunately
: " In terms of going to concerts or large outdoor events in the summer, one government source said “no chance” – saying that that they were surprised to see the current high level of advertising for gigs.

They added that it is hoped the country can hold outdoor events or gatherings of around 50 people this summer." https://www.thejournal.ie/summer-2021-plans-covid-ireland-5335248-Jan2021/

Penfailed · 26-01-2021 9:36am

The rescheduled Teenage Fanclub gig in Belfast in April has been rescheduled again...to April 2022...

Cancelled and Rescheduled gigs

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