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Reasons to be positive in Waterford?

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    #962
    TheQuietFella
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    dartboardio wrote: »
    So we should stop opening fast food outlets because some people have problems with food and aren’t brought up eating everything in moderation?

    Right

    How many more fast food outlets are needed in Waterford?

    My question is can't people cook at home and yes it is nice to eat out
    but McDonalds!

    I passed McDonalds on Sunday and I was amazed at the volume of traffic
    on the Cork Road queuing at the drive through? For what?


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    #963
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,856 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    How many more fast food outlets are needed in Waterford?

    My question is can't people cook at home and yes it is nice to eat out
    but McDonalds!

    I passed McDonalds on Sunday and I was amazed at the volume of traffic
    on the Cork Road queuing at the drive through? For what?

    for relatively cheap, addictive food


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    #964
    sillysocks
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭sillysocks


    TheQuietFella wrote: »

    How many more fast food outlets are needed in Waterford?

    My question is can't people cook at home and yes it is nice to eat out
    but McDonalds!

    In fairness waterford does have its fair share of ‘normal’ restaurants too, it’s not all fast food ones. We’re quite lucky with the variety of restaurants in the city I think!


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    #965
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    dartboardio wrote: »
    So we should stop opening fast food outlets because some people have problems with food and aren’t brought up eating everything in moderation?

    Right

    It's an interesting one because you don't tend to see the same volume of fast food outlets on the continent, and definitely not in prime city streets like you see in Ireland.


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    #966
    TheQuietFella
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    for relatively cheap, addictive food

    And what does that say about the quality of the food that you're eating?

    http://www.mcdonalds.ie/iehome/food/more_food/eurosaver.html


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    #967
    TheQuietFella
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    hardybuck wrote: »

    It's an interesting one because you don't tend to see the same volume of fast food outlets on the continent, and definitely not in prime city streets like you see in Ireland.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/obesity-in-irish-men-increasing-at-alarming-rate-1.3610457


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    #968
    Marengo
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    Austin Gleeson.


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    #969
    curmudgeonly
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    And what does that say about the quality of the food that you're eating?

    http://www.mcdonalds.ie/iehome/food/more_food/eurosaver.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlev8r_iCo


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    #970
    dartboardio
    Registered Users Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    hardybuck wrote: »

    It's an interesting one because you don't tend to see the same volume of fast food outlets on the continent, and definitely not in prime city streets like you see in Ireland.

    Well tbh we are fairly short changed with fast food outlets in Waterford. A city and we don’t even have a Burger King. We have 2 McDonald’s miles away from eachother, a Supermacs or two and a thumb size abrakabra in city square, then a few independent chicken shops down on John street.

    Oh and a KFC many people have never even visited..
    Dublin on the other hand...


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    #971
    Harry Palmr
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    We used to have a Burger King - it was in Peter Street.

    On to fresh stuff for tQM to talk down - the development of the Ard Ri site which had been in question due to a competing claim on the site can go ahead, the other party lost the court action.

    http://www.munster-express.ie/business/court-challenge-for-ard-ri-fails/


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    #972
    Road-Hog
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    We used to have a Burger King - it was in Peter Street.

    On to fresh stuff for tQM to talk down - the development of the Ard Ri site which had been in question due to a competing claim on the site can go ahead, the other party lost the court action.

    http://www.munster-express.ie/business/court-challenge-for-ard-ri-fails/

    We can assume that a planning application will be lodged fairly soon and we will see what the Seamus Walsh has proposed for the site.....by all accounts from what has been written and broadcast about Seamus Walsh he sounds the real deal and has a track record of building quality developments and means business and may give Waterford what it badly needs as in a quality 4/5 star hotel.


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    #973
    TheQuietFella
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    Road-Hog wrote: »
    We can assume that a planning application will be lodged fairly soon and we will see what the Seamus Walsh has proposed for the site.....by all accounts from what has been written and broadcast about Seamus Walsh he sounds the real deal and has a track record of building quality developments and means business and may give Waterford what it badly needs as in a quality 4/5 star hotel.


    Kilkenny! :)


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    #974
    Max Powers
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    Road-Hog wrote: »
    We can assume that a planning application will be lodged fairly soon and we will see what the Seamus Walsh has proposed for the site.....by all accounts from what has been written and broadcast about Seamus Walsh he sounds the real deal and has a track record of building quality developments and means business and may give Waterford what it badly needs as in a quality 4/5 star hotel.

    He was on the radio back when he bought it, he said he's pretty much keeping the structure as it is, obviously he's going to be gutting it to the bone but structurally, it will be same dimensions etc, I'd imagine new cladding, total decoration and some fairly small structural works, that's what he said back over a year ago anyway when on WLR.


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    #975
    mooseknunkle
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    Max Powers wrote: »
    He was on the radio back when he bought it, he said he's pretty much keeping the structure as it is, obviously he's going to be gutting it to the bone but structurally, it will be same dimensions etc, I'd imagine new cladding, total decoration and some fairly small structural works, that's what he said back over a year ago anyway when on WLR.

    Rooftop bar too if i recall


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    #976
    7upfree
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    TheQuietFella wrote: »
    Kilkenny! :)
    :confused:


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    #977
    Jamie2k9
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    Apparently some "exclusive" news on Ard Ri Hotel on Desire Today tomorrow.

    Guessing its positive but you never know.


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    #978
    cactus jacks
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    The Tracy's are appealing the high court decision upholding the sale of the Ard ri to Seamus Walsh, so nothing will be happening with it for a while unfortunately.


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    #979
    Wanderer78
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    cactus jacks wrote:
    The Tracy's are appealing the high court decision upholding the sale of the Ard ri to Seamus Walsh, so nothing will be happening with it for a while unfortunately.


    What the fcuk is that about?


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    #980
    Bards
    Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Bards


    How to win friends and influence people.... NOT


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    #981
    Harry Palmr
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    From my above link
    A legal bid by a director of the Treacy’s Hotel Group attempting to force a receiver to sell her the site of the former Ard Rí Hotel has failed in the High Court. It may clear the way for development on the 20-acre site, which has been delayed since it emerged in April 2017 that South Kilkenny-born businessman Seamus Walsh had purchased it. The sale had been held up in the court for some time since then. According to The Sunday Times, Maria Keena, a director with Treacy’s Hotel Group, told the court that she had a contract to buy the property for €1.6 million in late 2016.

    The court heard that Ms Keena and her father Jim Treacy, who leads the hotel group, drove to Dublin with along with a financial advisor to sign a receipt for the deposit with EY, after learning that the site was for sale and that capital management fund Cerberus owned the loan on the property. The court heard that a ten per cent deposit worth €160,000 had been paid, but the deal did not go ahead and the deposit was returned.

    The site was then sold to Mr Walsh, who is also the owner of Waterford Castle, in early 2017 for a reported €1.5 million.Ms Keena sought a declaration from the High Court that she had an enforceable contract to acquire the site. However, Judge Michael Quinn ruled that a receipt issued from the deposit did not make it clear that Ms Keena was the sole buyer of the hotel and was not a binding contract

    I can sort of see why they are hacked off, but I pray they lose. They are small timers compared to Walsh.


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    #982
    cactus jacks
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I pray they lose. They are small timers compared to Walsh.

    Yeah same with me, the city centre is badly in need of a high end hotel, which is exactly what Seamus Walsh plans to provide with the Ard ri. I doubt their plans for it are anything near high end if the bridge hotel is anything to go by. Very disappointing news, it would of been great to see work start on it in the near future.


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    #983
    Road-Hog
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    Mr Walsh certainly gives the ‘verbal’ impression that he will build a mega hotel 4/5 ⭐️But would be encouraging to see some drawings or at least sketches/photo-montages of what he intends to construct.......although if there are still challenges regarding his ownership I guess he will put back his plans until this issue is resolved.


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    #984
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    cactus jacks wrote: »
    The Tracy's are appealing the high court decision upholding the sale of the Ard ri to Seamus Walsh, so nothing will be happening with it for a while unfortunately.

    A local boycott of Treacy's should follow this type of nonsense.


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    #985
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    In fairness to the Treacy's it appears that they put down a 10% deposit and thought they had agreed a sale, but it fell through.

    It appears that they didn't get their deposit back either.

    In those circumstances I can see why they would be unhappy.


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    #986
    curmudgeonly
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭curmudgeonly


    hardybuck wrote: »
    In fairness to the Treacy's it appears that they put down a 10% deposit and thought they had agreed a sale, but it fell through.

    It appears that they didn't get their deposit back either.

    In those circumstances I can see why they would be unhappy.

    Of course they got their deposit back!!
    Where did you get that from?


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    #987
    cactus jacks
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    curmudgeonly wrote: »
    Of course they got their deposit back!!
    Where did you get that from?


    Yeah its says they got their deposit back in the report on wlr's website:



    https://www.wlrfm.com/2019/02/04/82646/#


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    #988
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    curmudgeonly wrote: »
    Of course they got their deposit back!!
    Where did you get that from?

    Mea culpa - I've misread the article - to confirm they did get it back.


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    #989
    curmudgeonly
    Registered Users Posts: 280 ✭✭curmudgeonly


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Mea culpa - I've misread the article - to confirm they did get it back.

    Reading between the lines I would imagine they were not coming up with the balance quickly enough!
    Sale then went to a cashed up bidder for a lessor price.


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    #990
    Johnboy1951
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    curmudgeonly wrote: »
    Reading between the lines I would imagine they were not coming up with the balance quickly enough!
    Sale then went to a cashed up bidder for a lessor price.

    Regardless, a deposit is not legally binding, as many a house buyer will tell you.


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    #991
    invara
    Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭invara


    Interesting report on the regional economy just published today.
    http://irelandsoutheast.com/South-East-Ireland-At-A-Glance.pdf


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