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Corona virus in waterford

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    #3092
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    I’m not getting onto Cartamundi. I don’t believe there could be 43 cases ( or a substantial part of 43) from one factory. If it is the case, then there should be a Garda investigation. Ridiculously, we will never know because apparently we will turn up outside peoples houses with pitchforks and burning torched if we knew they were unfortunate enough to get a virus. Or something. But hey, let’s respect people’s privacy and keep spreading a deadly disease.

    The protection of peoples' identities is aimed directly at idiots like you.


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    #3093
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    The thing is, and not to even get into whether the companies in question have control measures in place. If the virus is prevalent in 2 largish employers in the city, the danger of community spread resulting from that is massive, by which I mean employees bringing the virus home then maybe a teenager passing it on from there or vice versa rather than the "We don't what the Fcuk happened" HSE definition of community spread.


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    #3094
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    Hijpo wrote: »
    B&L have plenty of facilities to sanitize and wash. They have provided every employee with hand sanitizer and face masks.
    If things get worse in there it will be due to individual employees choosing to car pool and not take the necessary precautions outside of the plant.
    Hijpo wrote: »
    About 5 in the last few weeks, maybe? In a plant employing over one thousand running 24\7. I think maybe 1 of those had been in the plant 3 days before getting a positive test. So internally I don't think there has been any transmission or risk of transmission.
    Hijpo wrote: »
    I have friends who work there also. But you can be sure any employee that tests positive would have to give close contacts, and if a close contact happened to be someone they worked with then they would need to be tested, and if they tested negative then the measures in place within the plant must be effective. There seems to be very few cases in there so the time gap between cases must be fairly big which to me would mean either there are no close contacts or the close contacts come back negative.

    But that's just my thinking on it.

    It would be interesting to hear why the employees think it will get worse.

    You seem to know a lot about the place for someone that doesn't work there!,why would it be interesting to you to hear why the employees think it will get worse?


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    #3095
    Deise Vu
    Registered Users Posts: 1,942 ✭✭✭Deise Vu


    killbillvol2 wrote: »
    The protection of peoples' identities is aimed directly at idiots like you.

    Well argued point.

    I don’t give a **** about people’s identities. I do give a **** about how, after three and a half weeks of lockdown, after 8 months of daily news, information and lectures about this virus, that we can have roughly a quarter of the total infections in one day that we had in the first five months of the pandemic. And we are not eve told if it is a widespread result, a fluke, individual madness or WTF. How is this helping?


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    #3096
    killbillvol2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    Deise Vu wrote: »
    Well argued point

    Indeed.


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    #3097
    Hijpo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    mooseknunkle wrote: »
    You seem to know a lot about the place for someone that doesn't work there!,why would it be interesting to you to hear why the employees think it will get worse?

    Well none of the things I have said are a secret. The face masks and sanitizer all have bausch and lomb branding on them.
    Iv had the "another case in B&L" texts. I'm sure every employee is aware of the positive cases when they happen, either through company notifications or the employees that tested positive telling other employees.
    The last point was an assumption.

    When I heard about the first few cases months ago I was waiting for it to explode in there but it never did, and if anything you would think procedures would get better over time so it would be interesting to hear what the employees logical reasoning is behind thinking it will get worse in there.


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    #3098
    Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Junior


    22 of the 43 Cases are from Cartamundi.


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    #3099
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    21 notified


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    #3100
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Not hugely surprised about Cartamundi tbh. As factories go, it's pretty archaic, think early 20th century style assembly line. It will be nearly as bad as a meat factory for virus spread.

    B & L and the likes of Sanofi and similar shouldnt be too risky, the layout and nature of work will lend themselves to social distancing without too much hassle.


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    #3101
    coastwatch
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    Cartamundi was the location of the first outbreak in Waterford back in early March.


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    #3102
    Hoffmans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    If this happened in Asia
    whole factory would be shut down for deep clean and all employees tested & quarantined
    But aah shur well be grand gel the oul hands...


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    #3103
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    If this happened in Asia
    whole factory would be shut down for deep clean and all employees tested & quarantined
    But aah shur well be grand gel the oul hands...

    As a non essential factory it could be closed and deep cleaned etc


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    #3104
    The Continental Op
    Registered Users Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    spookwoman wrote: »
    As a non essential factory it could be closed and deep cleaned etc

    Can someone enlighten me as to what they actually do there? I've always wondered.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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    #3105
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    The Continental Op wrote: »
    Can someone enlighten me as to what they actually do there? I've always wondered.

    Had to look it up myself, they produce board games.


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    #3106
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    The Continental Op wrote: »
    Can someone enlighten me as to what they actually do there? I've always wondered.

    Board games. Mostly nothing is "made" on site apart from the printed card. The components are put into boxes by hand from a moving conveyor and then palleted etc by hand too. Has to be seen to be believed, I honestly didn't think places like that were still possible in Western Europe but there you go. Mad place.


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    #3107
    ikeano29
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭ikeano29


    They used to be Milton Bradley


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    #3108
    Hoffmans
    Registered Users Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    BL have more cases we'll see the figures tuesday,
    Crazy all these cases being contracted in supposed L5 not much adhering to guidlines in waterford perfect storm for donegal situation.


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    #3109
    ikeano29
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭ikeano29


    In fairness this lock down hasnt been as harsh as the first one, very few check points going on, schools open and more people out and about shopping and still parties going on too


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    #3110
    Hijpo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Hoffmans wrote: »
    BL have more cases we'll see the figures tuesday,
    Crazy all these cases being contracted in supposed L5 not much adhering to guidlines in waterford perfect storm for donegal situation.

    Any idea how many? Will it be announced that specifically B&L have X amount?


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    #3111
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


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    #3112
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,920 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hoffmans wrote:
    If this happened in Asia whole factory would be shut down for deep clean and all employees tested & quarantined But aah shur well be grand gel the oul hands...

    Depends what part of Asia, tis a big place, I suspect some parts are still like the wild west, where lifes not just cheap, it's a commodity! Thailand sounds like they have their sh1t in order with this virus, but underneath it all, it's a dodgy enough country.
    smellyoldboot wrote:
    Board games. Mostly nothing is "made" on site apart from the printed card. The components are put into boxes by hand from a moving conveyor and then palleted etc by hand too. Has to be seen to be believed, I honestly didn't think places like that were still possible in Western Europe but there you go. Mad place.

    Favourable tax is a great incentive!


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    #3113
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    ikeano29 wrote: »
    They used to be Milton Bradley

    They used to be Hasbro no?


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    #3114
    Speak Now
    Registered Users Posts: 8,519 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Gael23 wrote: »
    They used to be Hasbro no?

    Yeah gone through quite a few names now.


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    #3115
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Favourable tax is a great incentive!

    In the covid thread? Seriously?

    Just shut the fcuk up.


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    #3116
    Wanderer2010
    Registered Users Posts: 6,681 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    smellyoldboot wrote: »
    Board games. Mostly nothing is "made" on site apart from the printed card. The components are put into boxes by hand from a moving conveyor and then palleted etc by hand too. Has to be seen to be believed, I honestly didn't think places like that were still possible in Western Europe but there you go. Mad place.

    Who buys board games in this year of playstations?? I get that some people and families still use them but i presume most of their user base is shipped out of Ireland.


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    #3117
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Who buys board games in this year of playstations?? I get that some people and families still use them but i presume most of their user base is shipped out of Ireland.

    I don't know the answer to your question, but as coincidence would have it my 11 year old informed me just yesterday that she'd like a board game for Christmas, but hasn't yet decided on which one!


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    #3118
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    kuang1 wrote: »
    I don't know the answer to your question, but as coincidence would have it my 11 year old informed me just yesterday that she'd like a board game for Christmas, but hasn't yet decided on which one!

    We have a good few board games. Kid loves them and a great way to spend an evening together minus technology tbh.


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    #3119
    mooseknunkle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭mooseknunkle


    Gael23 wrote: »
    They used to be Hasbro no?

    It was originally MB then Hasbro and now Cartamundi.


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    #3120
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Waterford 14 day rate now higher than Dublin.


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    #3121
    jopax
    Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭jopax


    spookwoman wrote: »
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    That's all we know about, the HSE are also only consider the kids in a pod as close contacts.
    They are all breathing in the same air, they are using the same toilet & are all playing together on break times so I think the whole class should be treated as a close contact.
    That's only the primary schools.
    The secondary schools have their own issues as well.


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