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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    That's what I was thinking since that seems to usually happen with her. Think she won the title twice at least the night after losing at a PPV


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking since that seems to usually happen with her. Think she won the title twice at least the night after losing at a PPV

    They could be a delay in getting side plates made.

    They could also possibly do the side plates on Smackdown in an in ring cermony type deal


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Poor zoey stark seems to be nxts female jobber


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    That dog is stealing every scene it's in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    J. Marston wrote: »
    That dog is stealing every scene it's in.

    When Io stood up irate speaking in Japanese, eyeball to eyeball with the dog I was not prepared. That was amazing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    When Io stood up irate speaking in Japanese, eyeball to eyeball with the dog I was not prepared. That was amazing.

    5opdz4hfdfu61.jpg

    40 year old Beth's face when 37 year old Monet said she watched her when she was a little girl was brilliant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Taya/Monet is a strange one. She's got the size to be a monster, yet her character always seems to be the ditzy blonde.

    I know it might seem a strange thing to say, but were Austin's eyebrows really big?

    Oh and TED DIBIASE!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,898 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Don't know if i'm a fan of Cool Kyle


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I'm assuming a mistake here


  • Registered Users Posts: 53,907 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Sad to see what Dominik Dijakovic has become on RAW

    Always liked him when I use to watch NXT


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Headshot wrote: »
    Sad to see what Dominik Dijakovic has become on RAW

    Always liked him when I use to watch NXT

    ahem you mean t-bar..hopefully the draft will repackage them


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Headshot wrote: »
    Sad to see what Dominik Dijakovic has become on RAW

    Always liked him when I use to watch NXT

    Hes a decent big man worker and hes just a joke now.

    Like so many in WWE sadly.

    It takes **** all to build talent and get the over. AEW is proof that with the right attention, they can get most guys over.

    WWE is proof that you can take talent dripping with potential, like Dijack, Ricochet, Humberto,Garza, Andrade, War Machine, Cedric, Ripley, Shayna, Riddle and make them all worthless.

    Not everyone I mentioned can be main eventers, but man you could at least make them useful parts of your show.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53,907 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Hes a decent big man worker and hes just a joke now.

    Like so many in WWE sadly.

    It takes **** all to build talent and get the over. AEW is proof that with the right attention, they can get most guys over.

    WWE is proof that you can take talent dripping with potential, like Dijack, Ricochet, Humberto,Garza, Andrade, War Machine, Cedric, Ripley, Shayna, Riddle and make them all worthless.

    Not everyone I mentioned can be main eventers, but man you could at least make them useful parts of your show.

    Dijakovic matches against Keith Lee, god damn they were so good

    I cannot believe I forgot about Ricochet, still shocked he's still there. What a waste of potential


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Wherever Keith Lee is, will they let him fight T-Bar at some point?

    Just remembering how a match that was considered one of Cesaro's best WWE matches was against Sami in NXT, yet it seems they're unable to replicate those matches on the main roster. And I don't just mean Cesaro/Zayn, but a lot of former NXT people.
    Look at Bayley/Sasha or Owens/Zayn


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Wherever Keith Lee is, will they let him fight T-Bar at some point?

    Just remembering how a match that was considered one of Cesaro's best WWE matches was against Sami in NXT, yet it seems they're unable to replicate those matches on the main roster. And I don't just mean Cesaro/Zayn, but a lot of former NXT people.
    Look at Bayley/Sasha or Owens/Zayn

    Well theres lots of reasons why wrestlers cant replicate a match from NXT on the main roster.

    Firstly, the match on NXT was a PPV main event. The matches on an NXT main event (at the time in 2015 I think) would be structured differently on the an episode of Smackdown in 2020/21.

    Zayn and Cesaro (and to a lesser extent Lee and Dijack) would have a hell of a lot more freedom on an NXT special than a main roster tv match. Main roster tv matches are almost always by the numbers, nothing special and extremely restricted. A Smackdown TV match would be hampered by tv ad breaks as WWE seem to book a match to cater for a commercial rather than just work the match regardless of the ad break. Most WWE tv matches are predictable and boring.

    Plus the small but hot (NXT crowd) would add to the match. These days, pre covid, main roster crowds are so dethatched form the action. During covid theres no crowd to add to the match.

    Additionally the feuds in WWE now are at an all time low in terms of booking and build. Even if Zayn faced Cesaro in a 10,000 seater arena on PPV, I doubt WWE could build a feud effectively to enhance the match.

    Furthermore, guys like Zayn for example has had a fair share of injuries since 2015 and he works a safer and somewhat smarter style in 2021.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Finally we have the meeting of Grimes and DiBiase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,321 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Cole wants Kross but so does Kyle, triple threat?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,887 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    The NXT UK Dublin show has been cancelled, just got a notification on FB


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Well theres lots of reasons why wrestlers cant replicate a match from NXT on the main roster.

    Firstly, the match on NXT was a PPV main event. The matches on an NXT main event (at the time in 2015 I think) would be structured differently on the an episode of Smackdown in 2020/21.

    Zayn and Cesaro (and to a lesser extent Lee and Dijack) would have a hell of a lot more freedom on an NXT special than a main roster tv match. Main roster tv matches are almost always by the numbers, nothing special and extremely restricted. A Smackdown TV match would be hampered by tv ad breaks as WWE seem to book a match to cater for a commercial rather than just work the match regardless of the ad break. Most WWE tv matches are predictable and boring.

    Plus the small but hot (NXT crowd) would add to the match. These days, pre covid, main roster crowds are so dethatched form the action. During covid theres no crowd to add to the match.

    Additionally the feuds in WWE now are at an all time low in terms of booking and build. Even if Zayn faced Cesaro in a 10,000 seater arena on PPV, I doubt WWE could build a feud effectively to enhance the match.

    Furthermore, guys like Zayn for example has had a fair share of injuries since 2015 and he works a safer and somewhat smarter style in 2021.

    Daniel Bryan was talking about something similar the other day, saying that Cesaro or Otis in a pure pro wrestling environment like NJPW (it isn't but whatever) would look way better than they do in the sports entertainment world of WWE.

    It's a mindset thing for us fans. We, as fans, have to stop thinking of main roster WWE as pro wrestling. It isn't. They tell you it isn't. Stop applying pro wrestling logic to it. It's a TV show. Not a very logical or interesting TV show but a TV show all the same. Akira Tozawa plays a ninja. Ricochet plays a 24/7 geek. Cesaro is the swinging man whose just happy to be there. They're characters on a TV show, they've got their role and by and large their role won't deviate, it won't get significantly larger or smaller. There is not a pro wrestler on the main roster who wouldn't look like a better pro wrestler, who wouldn't feel like a bigger deal outside of WWE than they do on the main roster. But, until they leave, if they ever leave, consider their wrestling career on pause, it's the easiest thing to do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,898 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Finn back tonight, I would like another heel run but the brand needs more faces so reckon he's going down that road again


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Finn delivers a simple but effective promo only to get knocked on his Bollix with one punch. Gas.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Jaysus Shotzi Blackheart is money, strap a rocket to her and send her up to the main roster.

    So much talent in the women's division on NXT yet we get to see Dana Brooke and Lana wrestle "clinics" on Raw, and Tamina do her "magic" on Smackdown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Necro wrote: »
    Jaysus Shotzi Blackheart is money, strap a rocket to her and send her up to the main roster.

    So much talent in the women's division on NXT yet we get to see Dana Brooke and Lana wrestle "clinics" on Raw, and Tamina do her "magic" on Smackdown.

    Until they throw her into the the riot squad and Bury her into catering


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The Way is a fun stable. Theory plays a himbo too well...

    https://streamable.com/kbczme


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Necro wrote: »
    Jaysus Shotzi Blackheart is money, strap a rocket to her and send her up to the main roster.

    So much talent in the women's division on NXT yet we get to see Dana Brooke and Lana wrestle "clinics" on Raw, and Tamina do her "magic" on Smackdown.

    It's weird to me that they never did a future endeavour clear out in the women's division. Instead they let the likes of Mickie James go. Gas.

    Ciampa has to be on the one of the most aimless tranjectorys I have seen.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It's weird to me that they never did a future endeavour clear out in the women's division. Instead they let the likes of Mickie James go. Gas.

    Yeah Mickie would be great for putting the new blood over. Solid in ring talent


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,849 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seeing her mentioned in the AEW thread, I meant to say I thought there were a lot of quick recoveries in the women's tag title match


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,132 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Seeing her mentioned in the AEW thread, I meant to say I thought there were a lot of quick recoveries in the women's tag title match

    The table spot in the ring is the one that stands out to me the most, there were a few though iirc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,898 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Looks like a few options in the nxt title picture, hope we don't see another Kyle and Finn buddy team

    Is Wade Barrett retired from the ring ?? Reckon he could have a great feud with someone like Pete Dunne


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    The switch to Tuesdays haven't been the remedy so far. OK it's early and maybe they can build momentum but a 0.18 is a disastrous number in well over a year that's contained some disastrous numbers. They'd settled around the 0.22 but with the Wrestlemania buzz over they don't want thar settle point below the 0.20's


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