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NXT Thread *SPOILERS*

  • 01-01-2018 12:20am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Nice story development given Vega screwed him previously against Almas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just a review of the year this week.
    They showed some of the Cole/Mcintyre fight from before WarGames this week.

    I was thinking that Ciampa may cost Gargano the title match at Takeover. Think he should be due back about now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Just got it finished and great feature on Ember Moon to end the show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Still need to watch the main event, but Nikki Cross is great, in case you doubted it. :)

    Seems they're pushing the Horsewomen thing with Shayna anyway going by her entrance music. Only realized now that she makes a spade with her hands.
    The arm bit looked good/bad in real time but the replay made it too obvious what happened

    Was sure Lio Rush would've been on a break for a while at least after his comments on Emma's release.

    That venue is not set up well for run ins


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Have decided to watch NXT on a regular basis from now on :) . Watched last nights episode and really enjoyed the simplicity of the show. Used to watch it all the time when it was on sky sports but after it moved the Network id only watch it every so often but not anymore ha.

    The fact you have just 1 authority figure in Regal is great , even though he popped up about 3 or 4 times in the episode it didnt feel like he over did it since it was usually quick and he was gone without taking over the show .

    Aleister Black has a very Undertaker vibe off him imo especially when he came out at with Strong last night his presence was great even when he was just staring at the Undisputed Era you could feel the his presence.

    Agreed the venue was crap for run ins the way its set up


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    I really like bio videos that they have been doing lately on NXT with TM-61 this week.

    They add more to the show rather than just random exhibition matches and short backstage segments each week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I don't think it happened this week, but I'm always curious who all the reporters are supposed to be when someone is being interviewed or making a statement. Think last week it looked like the one person holding a mic in one hand and phone in the other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    DM_7 wrote: »

    This has been irritating me for months! Why are you sharing a car if you're both loaded ffs?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    To quote Bill Gates
    "I didn't get rich by writing a lot of cheques"

    Maybe they're of the same mindset


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭cian68


    two minutes in to this weeks NXT and I'm loving it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    "Ambience. Atmosphere. Illumination."

    Velveteen Dream is the just the right amount of cheese.

    Can never see it working on the main roster though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    J. Marston wrote: »
    "Ambience. Atmosphere. Illumination."

    Velveteen Dream is the just the right amount of cheese.

    Can never see it working on the main roster though.

    It would die a death of a thousand crickets chirping on the main roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    J. Marston wrote: »
    "Ambience. Atmosphere. Illumination."

    Velveteen Dream is the just the right amount of cheese.

    Can never see it working on the main roster though.

    Hes a star , his feud with Black solidified that for me. Hes so young too, but he can work, hes driven and hes improved so much in such a short period.

    I think he can be success on the main roster if allowed to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Velveteen is an immensely talented young guy but there's no way that gimmick works with today's Raw/Smackdown crowds. Johnny Wrestling on the other hand could be the new Daniel Bryan type underdog hero if they allow him to be. I expect him to be screwed out of the win on Saturday, possibly by a returning Ciampa, but he's a big star in waiting if used correctly in my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Holding his own against Black and Gargano in pretty long matches. I'll admit I wasn't pushed on him before, but I was among those won over by his match against Black. I did notice he was unsteady on the ropes.

    So card for Takeover:
    Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Johnny Gargano Singles match for the NXT Championship
    Aleister Black vs. Adam Cole Extreme Rules match
    Ember Moon vs. Shayna Baszler Singles match for the NXT Women's Championship
    The Undisputed Era vs. The Authors of Pain for the NXT Tag Team Championship
    Kassius Ohno vs. Velveteen Dream


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,470 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Holding his own against Black and Gargano in pretty long matches. I'll admit I wasn't pushed on him before, but I was among those won over by his match against Black. I did notice he was unsteady on the ropes.

    So card for Takeover:
    Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Johnny Gargano Singles match for the NXT Championship
    Aleister Black vs. Adam Cole Extreme Rules match
    Ember Moon vs. Shayna Baszler Singles match for the NXT Women's Championship
    The Undisputed Era vs. The Authors of Pain for the NXT Tag Team Championship
    Kassius Ohno vs. Velveteen Dream

    bit of a meh card for takeover but some crackers in there too. prob stay up and watch it sat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I've thought that about multiple cards in the past and there were at least a couple good matches worth watching for. Like i said, Dream was someone i had no interest in until WarGames. And same for Almas. Want interested until probably he fought Gargano at Takeover. Not just because of Thea.

    I do find it interesting they now have AoP talking more.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    That is a really good card in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    bit of a meh card for takeover but some crackers in there too. prob stay up and watch it sat

    Thats a fantastic card. All matches have teh potential to steal the show. Its stacked.

    The womend match could go either way..... depending on how they book it....Bazler is an unknown quantity as a wrestler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    NXT to steal the show from the main roster again looking at that card for TakeOver.

    Then again putting the main roster shame isn't really a tough job :pac:


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    I see its Strong vs Bate next week for the number 1 contender against Pete Dunne


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    I see its Strong vs Bate next week for the number 1 contender against Pete Dunne

    UK veteran Roderick Strong getting his chance. That belt didn't last long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So Candice be at ringside for Gargano's match or shown in the crowd?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    So Candice be at ringside for Gargano's match or shown in the crowd?

    I'd hazard a guess it'll be the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Candice jumps the rails takes out zelina johnny is about to win but ciampa shows up and costs him is my guess for what happens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Is it to early for Ciampa to return with Mrs Wrestling in hand to screw over Johnny?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    bit of a meh card for takeover

    Note to self, don't listen to this guy again. What a show!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Note to self, don't listen to this guy again. What a show!

    The takeovers always deliver in quality. I love their tag team matches. The psychology in explaining how the smaller team were able to chop down the AOP was great. Every move served a purpose.

    And the main event. Wow. Amazing. Totally sucks you in and makes you believe in wrestling like being a kid again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Gargano and Almas got 5 stars from Dave Meltzer.

    First 5 star match in WWE since Punk/Cena in 2011 apparently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    NXT TAPING SPOILERS INCOMING.
    Street Profits (Angelo Dawkins & Montez Ford) over Fabian Aichner & Raul Mendoza.

    SAniTy vs. Undisputed ERA (Bobby Fish & Kyle O’Reilly) (c) (NXT Tag Team Championship) never gets underway because they won’t stop brawling. William Regal comes out, none too pleased, and makes a tornado tag team match between all of both teams in the main event.
    Heavy Machinery over Riddick Moss & Tino Sabbatelli.

    After the match, Riddick refuses to help Tino up and heads to the back alone.

    Johnny Gargano comes down for a promo and calls out Tommaso Ciampa, but Andrade “Cien” Almas and Zelina Vega come out instead. Almas holds the title up in Johnny’s face but Candice LeRae comes out to back him up, and we end up with a match made— Johnny Gargano vs. Andrade Almas one more time with the NXT Championship on the line, but if Johnny loses, he’s gone from NXT.

    Bianca BelAir over enhancement talent.

    SAniTy over Undisputed ERA (Six-Man Tornado Tag Team Match)

    TM-61 over John Skyler & ???.

    Pete Dunne (c) over Roderick Strong to retain the WWE United Kingdom Championship.

    Aleister Black cuts a promo saying that the devil that drives him is the NXT Championship, but Killian Dain comes out to interrupt. Aleister tells him he’ll fade to black.

    Shayna Baszler over Ember Moon (c) by disqualification when, while Shayna is about to break Ember’s arm in the barricade, Kairi Sane makes the save. (NXT Women’s Championship)

    Velveteen Dream over No Way Jose. Dream gets some promo time after the match.
    Nikki Cross over Vanessa Borne.

    Forgotten Sons (Steve Cutler & Wesley Blake) over Elijah Evans IV & ???.

    After the match, Forgotten Sons declare for the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic, so that’s back.

    Andrade “Cien” Almas (c) over Johnny Gargano to retain the NXT Championship (Title vs. NXT Career Match). After a ref bump, Tommaso Ciampa came out and attacked Johnny with his crutch again, leading to Almas picking up the win with his hammerlock DDT.

    After the match, Candice and Johnny have a moment together in the ring.

    Johnny gets a standing ovation and William Regal comes out and hugs him on the stage. This whole time Ciampa is waving goodbye and smiling from the crowd.

    Johnny hangs out with the crowd for a bit to say goodbye, taking pictures and signing autographs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,881 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    They better not be
    putting Johnny on 205 Live. You’d think there has to be some kind of payoff for him vs Ciampa but maybe Vince wants him up a.s.a.p.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭LeeJM


    Pentecost wrote: »
    They better not be
    putting Johnny on 205 Live. You’d think there has to be some kind of payoff for him vs Ciampa but maybe Vince wants him up a.s.a.p.
    Unsanctioned match will be announced for Mania weekend at tonights tapings


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    LeeJM wrote: »
    Unsanctioned match will be announced for Mania weekend at tonights tapings
    I can dig that. You'd wonder where they'd go after that as in reality, this is only the beginning of their feud. Ideally Johnny wins, debuts next on Raw or Tuesday on Smackdown only to get blindsided by Ciampa again....the man he just can't shake.

    I've no problem with Johnny probably never winning the NXT title. In fact him not winning could do wonders for his push on the main roster as it allows for logical progression in his story, without retreading story points already hit in NXT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    LeeJM wrote: »
    Unsanctioned match will be announced for Mania weekend at tonights tapings
    I can dig that. You'd wonder where they'd go after that as in reality, this is only the beginning of their feud. Ideally Johnny wins, debuts next on Raw or Tuesday on Smackdown only to get blindsided by Ciampa again....the man he just can't shake.

    I've no problem with Johnny probably never winning the NXT title. In fact him not winning could do wonders for his push on the main roster as it allows for logical progression in his story, without retreading story points already hit in NXT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Who released the redacted documents?

    How many weeks are these tapings for? Back in full sail, i hope. Didn't like that last place where a run in consisted of having to carefully walk down steps


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    I am really becoming a fan of Lacey Evans especially now that she is a heel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,698 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Who released the redacted documents?

    How many weeks are these tapings for? Back in full sail, i hope. Didn't like that last place where a run in consisted of having to carefully walk down steps

    Centre stage in Atlanta was the last taping outside of full sail.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    How come NXT is still using Atlanta for tapings? I hate the set up just watching last weeks episode


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Yeah I thought they were just there for the tapings that brought us to Takeover


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    These ad breaks ruined the title matches.

    Why do they do this?

    I understand it on live TV, but on their own network ? It ruins the experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    These ad breaks ruined the title matches.

    Why do they do this?

    I understand it on live TV, but on their own network ? It ruins the experience.

    What annoys me even more is when they run ads for the Network... on the Network


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Killian Dain cutting a promo = Jim McDonald as a WWE superstar.....

    He needs to cut more promos. Black while excellent in the ring, needs to develop that side of his game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    beakerjoe wrote: »
    Killian Dain cutting a promo = Jim McDonald as a WWE superstar.....

    Absolutely cannot wait for him to tell a rival that their da sells the Avon. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So Gargano has to win next week or he leaves? I'm guessing something will happen to stop either scenario happening. Or he wins by DQ.
    I know the results were posted earlier but I'll avoid reading them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    So Gargano has to win next week or he leaves? I'm guessing something will happen to stop either scenario happening. Or he wins by DQ.
    I know the results were posted earlier but I'll avoid reading them

    Ive avoided them too. Cant wait for next weeks match


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    I think Ciampa ruining the moment with one swing of his crutch has the potential to be the next RKO out of no where meme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    The match wasnt a patch on their NXT Takeover match, but it was a fine tv match. The crowd wasnt great IMO and that took away from it a bit, and there werent enough near falls for my liking considering the high stakes, but their match was highly enjoyable nonetheess for a tv match.

    The fact that Gargano is the hottest guy in NXT right now takes away from the finish a bit as you know hes going nowhere as he has unresolved issues with Ciampa and Almas. I am curious to how this Gargano story plays out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭HandsomeBob


    Id like to see Ciampa hound Gargano all the way to the main roster but not sure how that would be received by a tepid audience.

    Gargano being in the cruiserweight tournament and getting to the final at Mania, only for Ciampa to stiff him again on the grandest stage would have been actually perfect. Gives the Raw/205 audience a chance to get to know Gargano before Ciampa rears his head again .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,801 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Id like to see Ciampa hound Gargano all the way to the main roster but not sure how that would be received by a tepid audience.

    Gargano being in the cruiserweight tournament and getting to the final at Mania, only for Ciampa to stiff him again on the grandest stage would have been actually perfect. Gives the Raw/205 audience a chance to get to know Gargano before Ciampa rears his head again .

    The brackets for the Cruiserweight Title are up, no sign of Johnny Wrestling.

    Id love to see Ciampa stalk Candice in NXT, make her life hell too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,562 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Regal may overturn Gargano leaving under the circumstances.
    That Cena looking ref took a pretty good hit anyway.


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