Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? *READ POST 1*

iptba wrote: »

What did it say? It has been deleted.

ETA: This was a reply:
In connection with Covid-19 it seems

irishejit wrote: »

I don't think this has been in the thread before, but after seeing it a couple of weeks ago this is rearing its ugly head again....casual sexism anyone?



Of course everyone knows its the fault of men that covid-19 has decimated the planet in the way that it has, but women are the saviour...yippeee. :rolleyes:

This is just one example of many of these posters, and this one in Pakistan of all places!!!

Young men refusing to wear a mask have to be faced down
Áilín Quinlan

FAR be it from me to re-ignite the sex wars.

But in all fairness, guys.

Each day since last Monday, I have made my usual daily visit to my local supermarket.

And each day, I, along with, I should point out, every other female customer in the shop and every staff member, have worn a face-mask.

Because, since July 20, as anyone who hasn’t been suspended upside down on their local beach with their head in the sand will know, anyone entering a shop has to wear a face-covering, as do staff working there, unless they are behind a screen. Even the staff in my local shop who are working behind a screen are wearing masks.

In fact on one occasion, when I realised on entering the shop that I had forgotten to put it on, I tramped, swearing, back out to the car to get it and put it on.

Yet, each time I enter the shop, I see a parade of males in their twenties or thirties arriving through the doors, brazen-faced, brass-necked and mask-less. They will blithely pass the hand-sanitiser equipment at the door, walking into the store as if it’s life as normal, completely ignoring the fact that virtually every other customer and every single member of staff is wearing a mask.

Without as much as a blush, they queue up for their breakfast roll, get their coffee, tea or can of Red Bull, and then join another queue to pay.

And not a single person, neither customers nor staff nor owners, quiet mice that we all are, expresses as much as a syllable of protest.

I was diagnosed with late-onset asthma a year ago (most unfair, I thought at the time, as I don’t smoke and exercise daily, but apparently it’s in the family tree.)

However, I still wear a mask when I go into the shop. Like Dublin GP Dr Maitiu O’Tuathail, who took to Twitter this week to explain the non-impact of face masks and coverings on oxygen levels, I didn’t find that wearing a mask impeded my breathing. It’s just a bit uncomfortable and I whip it off as soon as I’m back out in the fresh air.

Well, anyway, in the shop car-park one morning, I suddenly got entirely sick of being a mouse.

As I watched two tall, strong, healthy and immensely cheerful twenty-something males exit their vehicle and stride into the supermarket, bypassing the hand sanitiser stand without as much as a glance and brushing past a much older man who actually was wearing a mask, I felt a wave of sheer irritation.

You can look up the psychology of teenagers and young twenty-somethings. They feel immortal. They don’t believe they can be injured or infected or die. This is why they are so risk-prone. This is why you have young fellas doing really stupid things like driving cars way outside the speed limits at eye-watering speeds and doing doughnuts on the roads, diving into swimming pools from hotel balconies several storeys up, or tearing down motorways on the wrong side of the road

We know all of this, and while it’s not an excuse it is a reason. Alas, though, the downside of this is they also more than likely never think about the fact that they can injure or infect someone else, or even cause the death of another.

As I collected my newspaper and walked through the aisles picking up my few bits, I passed this hearty duo, now lounging at the deli-counter waiting for their orders, talking and laughing loudly and of course, in the meantime expelling millions of potentially infectious droplets into the air.

“Excuse me,” I said calmly. They turned around. “You’re supposed to be wearing a mask. It’s mandatory.”

They had the grace to look a bit abashed. “Eh, yeah, I know,” said one apologetically. The other guy said nothing. And then they looked away again and I moved on. In other words, that was it, basically.

So yes, they knew they were supposed to be wearing them, the idea being to protect others. But, er, what they were too polite to say was they didn’t care and couldn’t be bothered.

And if this is happening regularly in my local shop, it’s happening in plenty of shops.

You can’t blame shop-owners or their staff for not taking on these young men about their callous and careless behaviour, but somebody needs to.

How can anyone be that oblivious to the risk they’re potentially posing to the health of other people? Especially now, that after so much to-ing and fro-ing, the government has made it mandatory? Especially now that cases of Covid-19 are on the rise, day by day?

The aforementioned GP, Dr O’Tuathail, has warned that he’s seen a worrying rise in the number of people requesting Covid-19 tests. Sharing a screenshot on Twitter of a request log where every line was related to Covid-19 testing, he warned that it was “starting to feel like March 2020 all over again”.

He was, he reported, “getting an alarming increase in requests for Covid testing, and it’s trending upwards. My day so far has been all Covid-related — for the first time in weeks.”

This in the context of recent figures which, according to acting chief medical officer Dr Ronan Glynn, mean that workplaces — such as shops, because shops, remember, are most definitely workplaces and not just, say, building sites or creches — are the new “frontline” of the war against the virus, with clusters of Covid emerging in recent days.

Ireland, says Dr Glynn, cannot rule out a second lockdown just yet.

So, em, in this context, if we have a significant problem with young males refusing to wear masks in shops, possibly because they think it’s unmanly, uncool, or just plain embarrassing, we need to confront them and deal with it.

We can’t realistically expect young shop assistants to deal with this problem, can we?

Put it more bluntly — are we seriously going to leave this emerging public health threat to shop-keepers?

Tig98 wrote: »

I agree, and from working on a till women are much contrarier than men and less likely to comply with simple store regulations

py2006 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/EmillySwaven/status/1286466221764939777?s=20

Original Article
Reactions to male‐favouring versus female‐favouring sex differences: A pre‐registered experiment and Southeast Asian replication

Steve Stewart‐Williams Chern Yi Marybeth Chang Xiu Ling Wong Jesse D. Blackburn Andrew G. Thomas

First published: 23 July 2020 https://doi.org/10.1111/bjop.12463

Abstract

Two studies investigated
(1) how people react to research describing a sex difference, depending on whether that difference favours males or females,
and
(2) how accurately people can predict how the average man and woman will react.

In Study 1, Western participants (N = 492) viewed a fictional popular‐science article describing either a male‐favouring or a female‐favouring sex difference (i.e., men/women draw better; women/men lie more).

Both sexes reacted less positively to the male‐favouring differences, judging the findings to be less important, less credible, and more offensive, harmful, and upsetting.

Participants predicted that the average man and woman would react more positively to sex differences favouring their own sex.

This was true of the average woman, although the level of own‐sex favouritism was lower than participants predicted.

It was not true, however, of the average man, who – like the average woman – reacted more positively to the female‐favouring differences.

Study 2 replicated these findings in a Southeast Asian sample (N = 336).

Our results are consistent with the idea that both sexes are more protective of women than men, but that both exaggerate the level of same‐sex favouritism within each sex – a misconception that could potentially harm relations between the sexes.

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Had the joy today of flicking through this publication from Aontas, focussing on strategies to combat educational disadvantage in a post Covid world. It lists "disadvantaged learners" as:

1. Learners with disabilities.
2. Travellers and Roma.
3. Home Carers.
4. Women.
5. Learners in Direct Provision and Homeless.
6. Learners with Literacy, Numeracy and Basic Digital Literacy Needs.
7. Adults with Lower-Level Qualifications.
8. Individuals in receipt of social welfare.
9. First-Time Mature Students.

While no-one would argue over some of the list, am I incorrect in surmising that it portrays pretty much everyone except white males with jobs as being "disadvantaged learners"?!

iptba wrote: »

I was friendly with some girls who were studying social work and the class was around 90% female. And then quite a bit of the stuff they were studying was influenced by feminism. I could imagine this could lead to group think and a lack of balance, probably causing more problems than a gender imbalance in say IT professionals.

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Fact is, we've actually reached the stage where what you correctly point out CAN'T BE SAID in public, without some horrible label being attached to you - sexist, mysoginist, "conservative", fascist even - and as we saw multiple times, nobody is safe from it, not even the women who pointed out the problem. Any initiatives, documents, campaigns aimed to help boys & men will be trashed by the media as it doesn't fit their narrative.

Deleted User wrote: »

and everything that negatively affects them is translated into becoming examples where they were put down by others... usually "men". "Men" being a vague body of people who simply exist, like the boogeyman.

Reverse sexism is now institutionalised. It's in our government, and public service when women are elevated to roles because of their gender, or financing is awarded to women simply due to their gender. It's there in our schools. It's there pretty much everywhere in society.... because women are legally equal with men, and have no real need for such help. It simply comes down to personal choice, and mantaining the victim image.