CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

niallo27 · 13-03-2020 11:51pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Vaccine.

That's 18 months away. We cant wait for that.

13-03-2020 11:51pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

...just a matter of time now before a 6pm curfew kicks in.

Civil unrest on the streets, with armed police & army out & about, taking temperatures & searching people, getting a grip with looting & rioting in Irish town & cities.

^I hope it won't come to this^

Perhaps we could set up a reserve for the army. Maybe equip them with some old khakis and old black police uniforms. Give them a snappy name like Black and Tans. That would put manners on us!

saabsaab · 13-03-2020 11:51pm

threeball wrote: »

That's some Grade A Columbian you got there.

At 4.50 see below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IfoUM6a4bA

iamwhoiam · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

all about the mane wrote: »

Have it completely in perspective. It’s still safer not to. Just because it’s not as bad as something else doesn’t make it the right thing to do.

No it doesn’t but if kids are asked not to play outside then the adults must be asked not to gather in pubs

kingbhome · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

What happens with internet access for those who need to top up instead of monthly payments if there was a lockdown. Serious question! Internet access is a huge part of people's lives plus to keep in contact with the outside world.

voluntary · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

Blueshoe wrote: »

Only 2 cases if community transmission today.
Cases are from people who flew in from infected areas. Close the airports. Isolate and treat those affected. Stop adding to the numbers.
There is a reason why Europe is now the epicenter.

They prefer to wait until enough people get infected so the virus doesn't die by extinction.

Blueshoe · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

voluntary wrote: »

US markets today are still way higher than after a 2018 mini-crash with no reason.

Exactly. Buy now. Eventually this will pass. Markets will recover rapidly.

bekker · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Would you have a link to those stats please?

No, HSE information briefing on TV as seen live. Text cut and paste from II.

Duke of Url · 13-03-2020 11:52pm

voluntary wrote: »

US markets today are still way higher than after a 2018 mini-crash with no reason.

Many Hugh Multinational company share prices are getting fcuked

GolfNut33 · 13-03-2020 11:53pm

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

One sickening thing about the Cheltenham crowd and other self absorbed types who aren't taking this seriously is that that those of them that will get sick will do so relatively early in the cycle and may go on to hog the limited hospital beds, ventilators and ICU places from those who bothered their hole educating themselves about the virus and will succumb to the virus later as a result of being more careful and conscientious.

Those arseholes should be tattooed on the forehead with a big fooking X so we know what to do with them. W*nkers.

wheresthebeef · 13-03-2020 11:53pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

Thats the crazy thing now. Anyone that gets the regular flu or cost or chest infection is gonna panic themselves and anyone around them. Weird crazy times.

If you have any respiratory symptoms, self isolate for 14 days. If you have symptoms of Covid-19 in particular, self-isolate for 14 days and consult your GP/HSELive for testing. Really simple stuff.

Summer2020 · 13-03-2020 11:53pm

If you’re reading this and you’re currently in, or have been in a pub today you are a complete and utter selfish c*nt.
The Instagram narcissist generation folks. All about themselves.

Strumms · 13-03-2020 11:53pm

titan18 wrote: »

To anyone in a pub ATM, you're an absolute assh0le. Grow the fcuk up and follow the advice being given.

They all need to be closed down immediately

Why doesn’t the government temporarily revoke or whatever the term is...suspended alcohol licenses for pubs to encourage force their closure ? If caught breaking the law, a six month revoke of license plus criminal charges. That would make sense no ? Then again, many elected representatives are publicans, have been publicans or are related to publicans and have friends all across the industry too. We would need to be carrying our heads under our arms and sweating profusely out of every orifice before that call gets made...ok stopping sports events and quite rightly but the so called social hubs of communities where people gather often 100 plus per night... in my own area there must be say 20 pubs / clubs that I can think of off the top of my head... the potential for 2500 people up close and personal and interacting in warm, enclosed spaces while under the influence of alcohol doesn’t sound like the brightest idea..

SwordsRunner · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

Geuze wrote: »

I haven't checked, but I assume pubs are quiet? Trade is suffering?

I am drinking at home, due to social distancing.

I have sympathy with the pubs.

With a username like that I’d say you’re unlikely to get the beer you like in an Irish pub anyway.

niallo27 · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Again, the end game is not to “get rid of this thing”.

The lockdown isn’t to stop the spread. It’s to slow it down to a manageable level, so we don’t all end up getting it at once.

Even a few weeks of a lock down spreads it out so that the hospitals aren’t having to make decisions of who lives and dies, just because there isn’t enough beds,

I understand that but only serious measures will slow it down to a manageable level and my point is these measures are too hard to have for more than a few weeks. A vaccine is a year away at best.

13-03-2020 11:54pm

banie01 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/mmqwalker/status/1238522055643074561?s=21

There are a few very important caveats that need to be remembered when looking at the age profile of the Italian Covid-19 deaths.

1. Italian Docs have already announced their triage guidelines, those currently on ventilation are those that were deemed fittest. A large cohort of the patients in ICU are at variance with the current demographic of the dead.

2. Those deaths are in addition to the usual daily toll.
Families have lost loved ones, funerals are delayed, remembrance delayed and many left to grieve alone.
Not just those bereaved by Covid-19, everyone.

3. Those ICU beds in use, they are blocking lifesaving treatment for other people afflicted by medical emergency and accident.
The overall death rate in afflicted areas when all causes are combined, will likely be ghastly.

4. Breaking the curve will not reduce the number of infected. It will seriously help in allowing our health services to cope.

We have a huge societal and behavioural change coming our way.
We can cope, we can be resilient.

Let's hope that this social distancing, doesn't cost us our humanity.

Those dead, those infected and those healthcare workers...
It's far too easy to think of them as "just numbers".

They are someone's brother, sister, mother, father and so on.
Let's not fall into the trap of thinking of the %'s of the numbers and taking a Boris type view of this.

The good of the many, may very well outweigh the good of the one, is true enough in most cases...
But.
When we forget the value of the one, we lose a piece of our souls.

Surely italys new numbers will drop off a cliff as the lockdown measures get into their 10th and 11th day??

beggars_bush · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

kingbhome wrote: »

What happens with internet access for those who need to top up instead of monthly payments if there was a lockdown. Serious question! Internet access is a huge part of people's lives plus to keep in contact with the outside world.

You'll still be alive without the internet

Order a few books online....

Doh!

D.Q · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

bekker wrote: »

Statistics compiled by the HSE show that as of 11am this morning, most of those infected are in the 55-63 age bracket.

The second highest incidences of cases is among the population aged between 34 and 44, followed by those aged 45-54 and 15-24.

Although the number of cases among the over 65s is relatively lower at this stage, those in this category are more of risk of complications.

LINK

all about the mane · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

No it doesn’t but if kids are asked not to play outside then the adults must be asked not to gather in pubs

Yes, I would be asking both groups not to do it. They are not mutually exclusive.

DM_7 · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

ITman88 wrote: »

No one can answer this, we could quiet possibly cripple small businesses for a lost cause

The current efforts are to slow the spread not stop. It can't be stopped right not.

It is about controlling the rate it spreads, get people into good habits to protect the most vulnerable as well as the healthcare system.

There is no vaccine, a large percentage will need to get the virus to build up the immune system whole other groups isolate for longer as they wait out the vaccine.

LRNM · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

Dax Stale Roadwork wrote: »

Something else I'll add.

The addition of the defence forces to this crisis should comfort people, not frighten them.

The army won't be kicking in doors or confining civilians to their homes, and finally if you're out on the piss this weekend or packing in your local on Paddy's Day then you're a moron.

During the bad snow I was always delighted to have the defence forces out helping us. We're lucky in Ireland that the sight of the army usually makes people feel somewhat safer.

I suspect all the voluntary ambulance services will be utilised too.

Professor Moriarty · 13-03-2020 11:54pm

bekker wrote: »

When developed, tested, approved, mass-produced, and distributed. Most estimates 12-18 months for development. Looks like virus disruption treatments will be faster but still have to follow the same route.

Exactly. Though there are high hopes of a vaccine sooner. If we want to stop this soon we need a vaccine.

olestoepoke · 13-03-2020 11:55pm

sdanseo wrote: »

Government needs to order the closure of pubs. I've chatted to a few people and seen a number of whats-apps tonight and it's quite clear now that people have gone out en masse to drown their sorrows and forget about the whole thing.

They will wake up tomorrow having potentially affected the rate of infection.

Ah the pub..... the Irish bomb shelters

freshpopcorn · 13-03-2020 11:55pm

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Pubs in Greystones absolutely packed by all accounts. Sad to see. Selfish action that could literally cost someone more vulnerable their life.

Chances are these somebody is in a pub is thanking this comment and complaining about people being in crowded spaces on Facebook!

coastwatch · 13-03-2020 11:55pm

bekker wrote: »

When developed, tested, approved, mass-produced, and distributed. Most estimates 12-18 months for development. Looks like virus disruption treatments will be faster but still have to follow the same route.

A fast and reliable test that can detect even at pre-symptomatic stage would be more useful than a vaccine now

Spanish Eyes · 13-03-2020 11:55pm

LRNM wrote: »

Hard to keep up with this thread.

I think it's not fair to bring up a section of society who you might perceive as abusing the health service.

It's a pretty complexed issue and I don't think it's proper to start pointing fingers and discussing it here. Especially since said alleged people are doing the right thing and avoiding the A&E right now.

This so much. We have a saying that people won't go to A&E on a sunny day, but the current crisis is different circumstances.

People are afraid to go to hospital, and the people who genuinely need treatment are generally those who are most reluctant to pick up the phone and call and ambulance or present to A&E in times like this because they're afraid they'll be wasting resources.

Was always the same, sunny day or not.

Still the fact that A/E is practically empty means the messers have left the building also.

Hobgoblin11 · 13-03-2020 11:55pm

voluntary wrote: »

US markets today are still way higher than after a 2018 mini-crash with no reason.

what do you mean higher ? Which index?

PyreOfHellfire · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

Summer2020 wrote: »

If you’re reading this and you’re currently in, or have been in a pub today you are a complete and utter selfish c*nt.
The Instagram narcissist generation folks. All about themselves.

I didn't realise the morality police were recruiting during a crisis. How high does my pedestal have to be before applying to join captain? :rolleyes:

Quantum Erasure · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

D.Q wrote: »

LINK

not working?

Duke of Url · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

I’m guessing no all of the 88 active cases in Ireland are quarantined in hospital?

hotmail.com · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

Cw85 wrote: »

Are you for real? This is boards that person might not be a member of the defences forces for all you know. I'm saying what I heard from two reputable sources I don't know how that's scaremongering of anything its giving people a heads up!!

Our army is tiny. How is this going to be enforced. It doesn't seem believable.

Summer2020 · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

PyreOfHellfire wrote: »

I didn't realise the morality police were recruiting during a crisis. How high does my pedestal have to be before applying to join captain? :rolleyes:

Grow up ffs.

Professor Moriarty · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

bekker wrote: »

No, HSE information briefing on TV as seen live. Text cut and paste from II.

Odd that they wouldn't have those stats available.

Spanish Eyes · 13-03-2020 11:56pm

Fair play to mods. Elbow bump for Beasty.

amadangomor · 13-03-2020 11:57pm

wheresthebeef wrote: »

If you have any respiratory symptoms, self isolate for 14 days. If you have symptoms of Covid-19 in particular, self-isolate for 14 days and consult your GP/HSELive for testing. Really simple stuff.

I've had a chesty cough for 9 days? No temperature and a minor head cold for last few days Should I have been isolating?

D.Q · 13-03-2020 11:57pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Odd that they wouldn't have those stats available.

Talking ****e.

voluntary · 13-03-2020 11:57pm

Duke of Url wrote: »

Many Hugh Multinational company share prices are getting fcuked

NASDAQ closed at 7874 today. It dropped to ~6200 in 2018 and to ~1200 in 2008 crash.

There's a huge space for further drops. What happened over the last 2 weeks is the top of the iceberg. US is going to get melted with the virus spreading parabolic.

titan18 · 13-03-2020 11:57pm

niallo27 wrote:

I understand that but only serious measures will slow it down to a manageable level and my point is these measures are too hard to have for more than a few weeks. A vaccine is a year away at best.

Going to the pub is a nice to have, not an essential. Much like cinema, restaurants, cafes etc. There's no reason they can't not be closed down for the best interest of public safety.

If you can't manage to not go into a pub for a few weeks, you've a problem.

banie01 · 13-03-2020 11:58pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Surely italys new numbers will drop off a cliff as the lockdown measures get into their 10th and 11th day??

For new infections, I'd hope so.
For deaths from Covid-19, it will take a little longer I think.

The sheer volume of medical resourcing tied up in fighting Covid-19 will raise the mortality across all causes as medical resources are diverted from normal paramedic and emergency care.

Funsterdelux · 13-03-2020 11:58pm

@banie

3. Those ICU beds in use, they are blocking lifesaving treatment for other people afflicted by medical emergency and accident.
The overall death rate in afflicted areas when all causes are combined, will likely be ghastly.

Nobody in the media is highlighting this! Others will die, not from the virus but from not getting care

Duke of Url · 13-03-2020 11:58pm

Cw85 wrote: »

Are you for real? This is boards that person might not be a member of the defences forces for all you know. I'm saying what I heard from two reputable sources I don't know how that's scaremongering of anything its giving people a heads up!!

He is.

13-03-2020 11:58pm

Natasha Warm Teacup wrote: »

Queue (because of the mass gathering restrictions)

No 'social distancing' in the queue though.

lots of hugging, arms around people for pictures, kissing to be seen,

its actually fascinating to watch

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

thebaz · 13-03-2020 11:58pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They really do.

I suspect that constant thorn in their side the Vintners Association are behind it not happening yet.

I no longer drink , but am having a really tough time dealing with reality 24/7 - people are getting trashed cause reality does not look good right now - but wish they just got it from off-licences and Supermarket - Nightclubs and crowded Temple bar type pubs are lethal places right now - but I do know most in the nightclub indusrty as well as Entertainment/Gigs are facing a very very dark future , hopefully and it will, rise again when the time is right to party.

Fann Linn · 13-03-2020 11:58pm

olestoepoke wrote: »

Thats the crazy thing now. Anyone that gets the regular flu or cost or chest infection is gonna panic themselves and anyone around them. Weird crazy times.

And if you actually sneeze, the looks you get from other punters. I noticed that the space got slightly larger around me today when I sneezed at the shop's today and people increased their 'social distance' to avoid me.

ITman88 · 13-03-2020 11:59pm

Blueshoe wrote: »

Exactly. Buy now. Eventually this will pass. Markets will recover rapidly.

Indicators are not so optimistic.
I’d be as pessimistic about the economy as the posters here are about the virus

hotmail.com · 13-03-2020 11:59pm

Cocaine is going to take a hit too.

amadangomor · 14-03-2020 12:00am

PyreOfHellfire wrote: »

I didn't realise the morality police were recruiting during a crisis. How high does my pedestal have to be before applying to join captain? :rolleyes:

Grow up , morality police? This reckless behaviour could cost lives.

Quantum Erasure · 14-03-2020 12:00am

hotmail.com wrote: »

Cocaine is going to take a hit too.

i'll take a hit, too

Harry Palmr · 14-03-2020 12:00am

Fann Linn wrote: »

And if you actually sneeze, the looks you get from other punters. I noticed that the space got slightly larger around me today when I sneezed at the shop's today and people increased their 'social distance' to avoid me.

They did the right thing, but did you by going shopping? How are you feeling!?

Sofa King Great · 14-03-2020 12:01am

Cw85 wrote: »

Are you for real? This is boards that person might not be a member of the defences forces for all you know. I'm saying what I heard from two reputable sources I don't know how that's scaremongering of anything its giving people a heads up!!

It was also addressed in the press conference earlier and called out as bullsh*t

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CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP