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Summer 2020 - General Discussion

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Well all I can say is bye bye to July 2020. My least favourite July I have observed. It's a 1/10 chief.

    I think July 2020 is getting a big fat 0 from myself. One of the worst summer months I can ever remember and the fact we couldn't go overseas makes it all the worse. Definitely up there with 2007 and 2012 if not worse.

    The temperature was basically 12C-15C for the first half of the month and it rained daily, often for more than 12 hours at a time! Second half of the month improved but not by much, got slighter warmer and we may have had a few unconfirmed reports of sunshine in the past few days! The temperature rose above 20C a few times in the east and south, but i'm sure several places in Ireland struggled to get past 18C at any stage this month. I thought June 2019 was dire, but it was a peach compared to this month.

    August can only be an improvement, at least in terms of temperature. Even September could be dryer and warmer than July. I still have hopes up for at least one nice week before the Autumn kicks in properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Its mad to think that our hottest day of summer this year was in June + (very early June at that) rather than July.



    Unless by some miracle it comes in August but I doubt it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    And wet in Cork City. Seems to be the best way to end July, the same way as it started


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    133mm here in Roscommon for July. Only 7 dry days.
    That's more rain than we got for the entire spring - March to May! Really making up for the dry spring now. Surely August will have a bit more settled weather in store.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Today's max temperatures:

    txint_uk.png

    A +20C difference between western/southern Ireland compared to London and the south-east of England. London reached 37.8C while western Ireland was doing well to reach 18C.

    We got to 20C in quite a few places today which is about average for the end of July or maybe a degree above but it did get to 23C in Dublin today once the rain cleared.

    The heat in the UK today does raise a few questions.

    Is the maximum temperature at Heathrow over the top considering all the heat from tarmac and airplanes. The surrounding areas are usually cooler by 1 to 3 degrees. A similar situation to our Shannon airport perhaps.

    If today's heat in the UK had been maintained for a few days rather than just 1 day, would London have reached 40C tomorrow or on Sunday? I think it would have if the temperature readings at Heathrow is truly accurate and does not take into account extra heat generated by tarmac.

    These heat plumes usually happen once to twice per summer in London but more recently they are getting over 36c with these spikes, whereas back in the 80s, 90s and early 2000's they would be getting more excited over reaching 33 or 34C.

    Here in Ireland these heat spikes are far more rare, probably more like once every 5 years where we might scrape 30 or 31C in one or two rural townlands. Even when we do get heat spikes, there is usually an easterly sea breeze which lowers the predicted temperature over much of the country, or a southerly which just drags up lots of sea air across the country. Heat records seem to get broken now every summer in the UK, meanwhile in Ireland we are struggling to break our own heat records which go back over 100 years.

    Our really poor location for summer warmth or heat requires several days of warmth from a proper Azores high with the perfect flow of wind with minimal sea track to sustain for a few days to even reach 30c, you have to wonder is it even possible for us to ever beat our ancient 33C all time temperature record.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And wet in Cork City. Seems to be the best way to end July, the same way as it started

    I think you're buying into the melancholy a bit too much on this thread! Or else you slept through all the nice weather!!!

    It was actually a very dry month up until the 27th of July. We were running at less than half the mean to that point.

    Then we got 18mm on the 27th, 26mm on the 29th and 13mm yesterday to totally skew the rainfall total for the month and give a very distorted picture of the weather we had.

    Very similar to some of the months we had during the lockdown when we had long dry periods and then some very wet days.

    Overall, July wasn't bad at all and relative to the rest of the country we got away with murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Waited for the “there is still 33% of summer left yet “ posts
    It’s been a disaster from almost the very start (apart from first weekend in June)
    A week or two in August won’t save that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 275 ✭✭sweet_trip


    Saturday, 1 August, 2020

    Forecasts for Ireland


    Although next weekend will somewhat resemble this weekend, there won't be as much cloud or rain involved then a stronger high will develop by around Monday 10th, lasting for a few days, so there could be a decent summery interval then with highs reaching low 20s.


    Shaking with excitement.
    If this doesn't happen I might just have a mental breakdown. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    August starting off where July left off here. About 10 seconds of actual sunshine (about an hour ago) so far this morning despite the 'brighter', broken cloud type (Sc)

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    sweet_trip wrote: »
    Shaking with excitement.
    If this doesn't happen I might just have a mental breakdown. :pac:

    It's always next week though.

    Looks like we might escape with at least a useable bank holiday weekend, cool and grey this morning but at least it's dry and calm for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    I think you're buying into the melancholy a bit too much on this thread! Or else you slept through all the nice weather!!!

    It was actually a very dry month up until the 27th of July. We were running at less than half the mean to that point.

    Then we got 18mm on the 27th, 26mm on the 29th and 13mm yesterday to totally skew the rainfall total for the month and give a very distorted picture of the weather we had.

    Very similar to some of the months we had during the lockdown when we had long dry periods and then some very wet days.

    Overall, July wasn't bad at all and relative to the rest of the country we got away with murder.

    Aye but the first day of July was wet, and the last day of July was wet is what I meant :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Sunny start to August in cork city, some clouds around and the ground is damp from overnight rain but take any piece of sun you can get!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Aye but the first day of July was wet, and the last day of July was wet is what I meant :p

    We got less than 1mm from a shower on July 1 and that shower last night was gone in minutes. My wife was in Douglas and they didn't get anything.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sunny start to August in cork city, some clouds around and the ground is damp from overnight rain but take any piece of sun you can get!

    We didn't get overnight rain. A shower late yesterday evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    This morning's ECM going for another 'heat spike' towards the end of next week:

    00aGcNy.png

    Focus seems primarily on the UK again but who knows, maybe we'll get a scrape closer the time. Either way, looks potentially more thundery for both the UK and us than yesterday's one which might be more of an interest (if this does come to pass)

    New Moon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    We didn't get overnight rain. A shower late yesterday evening.

    We most definitely did, I was awake watching it. Must have been very localised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Showery cool rubbish start to August.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    Pretty much back as we were for first day in August here at Fanad Donegal.
    Cool cloudy day with showers of rain in between.

    Quite often we get a decent spell of weather when the kids go back to school after a drab August.
    So here is hoping we get a decent spell a bit earlier this year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Walked to shop. 1k. There was 5 showers. And the main showers havent arrived yet. Bar a few hours on Monday it will rain until next Thursday with showers or rain.

    Still less than 1mm for August but wait until Tuesday evening I'd say 40mm by then


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Yes but the beauty of Nice in winter is you just drive for an hour and you are in the alps skiing. It’s a superb spot. I have been to Poland twice for New Years and Christmas markets in krakow and both times there was zero snow and it was like +8 degrees. I thought it would be much colder but never saw a snow flake either trip, just rain.
    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I'd be more comfortable in an eastern European environment as they tend to get what we might call 'seasons'. Anywhere between Vienna and Moscow (or beyond) would be ideal and where passing cold fronts in the summer, for example, regularly bring weather like this. (approaching storm in southern Belarus in 2012)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Another dry and quite warm day in Dublin. Last week or two been out a lot for walks etc and much more pleasant. Yesterday was beautiful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    dull again here today. It’s not cold certainly it’s 19 degrees but Jesus you’d like some blue skies and sunshine. Showers not far away either. It’s uninspiring insipid weather so so disappointed with this summer. Usually we’d get some sort of decent week but nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Yes but the beauty of Nice in winter is you just drive for an hour and you are in the alps skiing. It’s a superb spot. I have been to Poland twice for New Years and Christmas markets in krakow and both times there was zero snow and it was like +8 degrees. I thought it would be much colder but never saw a snow flake either trip, just rain.

    Nice would definitely be high on the list for me, great weather year round, extreme winters up the road and if you fancy a bit of weekend storm chasing it's just a short drive from the most thundery place in Europe in the plains of Northern Italy. Not to mention it's a stunningly beautiful part of the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Alan from Carlow weather said Tuesday is to be full of down pours and no real heat on the horizon :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Well rain has arrived here.


    Today was better than I expected here in NCD in the sense that it stayed dry + not cold.


    Still very little sunshine though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Dull, grey and on off rain all day in East Galway. Torrential downpours now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,106 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Rain hasn't arrived so far in Naas. Nice day in fairness, rain due though.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Met eireann still saying showers yet most of the country is under a band of rain. Its not often i give out about met eireann but their forecasts are often way off the mark lately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    Lovely day Wicklow hills. Cool at intervals. Warm other intervals. Still dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Absolutely wissing in swords now.

    Was a fine day till now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Met eireann still saying showers yet most of the country is under a band of rain. Its not often i give out about met eireann but their forecasts are often way off the mark lately.

    Looking at the radar I could not believe what they said that is one big band of rain certainly not showers, as a matter of interest the Air Corps Air Ambulance is flying through it from Co Longford to UHG Galway great service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭orchard farm


    Does anyone think theres a chance of things to improve by next week end?


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seems to have gone off here but posts daily on her blog.

    does anyone know the name of her blog? I loved her posts here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Rainfall is so light here as to not even be able to register a rain rate over the last few hours, which is in keeping with the Summer 2020 trend so far. A half decent shower would be far preferable to this endless sludge.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    If it clears up a bit later on, have a look for moon near Jupiter. It's not quite a full moon but will look almost full.

    I think the summer has been roughly what I was expecting although July a bit on the cooler side especially first half.

    Not that far from normal in most ways, but a bias towards more cloud and rain recently after quite a dry start in some places.

    August may be just a bit warmer than average although that trend may fade quickly enough to leave the result very close to normal.

    We were having a cool, wet summer, then suddenly it turned hot and dry about a week ago. That trend seems to be locked in for a while, with a slow drift back to more normal conditions (although normally it is rather hot and dry here in August anyway). We have had five days now of 35-37 C heat, with the average closer to 25 for the rest of the month of July before that, and June slightly below normal here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Rainfall is so light here as to not even be able to register a rain rate over the last few hours, which is in keeping with the Summer 2020 trend so far. A half decent shower would be far preferable to this endless sludge.

    Geez - we're not too far away and there's been some quite heavy bursts thundering on the roof here.

    Looking at the radar we seem to be under a heavy steamer stretching back to Kinvarra. Big fat drops falling straight down so sounds heavier. Current rate about 3-4mm/hr.

    Edit: proper heavy now 4mm in the last 15 mins! Please make it stop... :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Does anyone think theres a chance of things to improve by next week end?

    There is a chance we may see slightly warmer and dryer conditions by next weekend but it is far from nailed down for us. It could be another situation like yesterday where Ireland misses out and the UK sizzles but we shall see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    does anyone know the name of her blog? I loved her posts here

    Are talking about that lady who is on an offshore island, I miss her on here. Can’t remember what her blog is called.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Absolutely pissing in Athlone right now. Torrential


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    After the dullest June since 1993 at Dublin Apt, July with 102.5 hrs was the third dullest July on record and dullest since 1986. August would need at least 139.0 hrs of sun to save it from being the dullest summer on record.

    February this year, despite all the rain and shorter daylight, had slightly more sun than July with 103.3 hrs.

    From the figures I have available, Cork seemed to fare best with 161.8 hrs provisionally which is close to average, though Johnstown Castle might have had more.

    Monthly summary be available around Tuesday or Wednesday in anyway to confirm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Was at a football match tonight absolutely hammered it down with rain. Horrible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Was at a football match tonight absolutely hammered it down with rain. Horrible.

    Where? In Clonmel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭pauldry


    6.3mm of rain day 1 of August Sligo

    Only 193.7mm left


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Where? In Clonmel?

    South Tipp yeah. Why?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Chilly evening in West cork with a few showers of drizzle around every now and again, sat outside most of the night though because was dry and clear in between so have to make the most of it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,024 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Only in Ireland would Feb have more sun than July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Only in Ireland would Feb have more sun than July.

    Think most of the southern hemisphere countries would disagree with you..


  • Registered Users Posts: 327 ✭✭newholland mad


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Rainfall is so light here as to not even be able to register a rain rate over the last few hours, which is in keeping with the Summer 2020 trend so far. A half decent shower would be far preferable to this endless sludge.

    The opposite here bucketing down and nothing on the radar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,149 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Heavy Showers but jobs outside have to be done.

    Yesterday was the start of the old harvesting season. Not in this weather.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Nice start to the morning in West cork, dry and some blue sky with sun. Was some showers earlier though and presumably will be some.more later on.


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