Parkside Homes New Development (Balgriffin)

mr_fruitbowl · 28-07-2020 2:40pm

I've emailed both Carin and Hooke & MacDonald regarding available houses in Parkside.

Carin just sent an email back saying Hooke & MacDonal will follow up, but I've not heard anything back.

Does anyone know if there are still houses available?

Col_30 · 28-07-2020 2:50pm

I saw a price list for July a while back.
Prices were starting at 380k for a 3 bed and 455k for a 4 bed.
These would be mid terrace, so the end of terrace and semi-d houses would be 25-30k more depending on their orientation.

thepolymath · 28-07-2020 10:23pm

I discussed the social housing allocation with EA. The response I received was that as per the initial information they have from Cairn for this phase there will be no allocation of social housing. However, this might be true only for the houses and might not be applicable for the planned releases of duplexes and apartments.

In addition, Cairn have more development planned of bigger apartment (5 storied) and duplex blocks in the vacant land closer to the Main Street near New Priory in the future phases. My concern is more allocation of social housing in these apartments and duplexes to meet the 10% quota.

Col_30 · 28-07-2020 11:00pm

thepolymath wrote: »

I discussed the social housing allocation with EA. The response I received was that as per the initial information they have from Cairn for this phase there will be no allocation of social housing. However, this might be true only for the houses and might not be applicable for the planned releases of duplexes and apartments.

In addition, Cairn have more development planned of bigger apartment (5 storied) and duplex blocks in the vacant land closer to the Main Street near New Priory in the future phases. My concern is more allocation of social housing in these apartments and duplexes to meet the 10% quota.

All new estates have some social housing. I don’t think you’ll be able to identify the units. What’s your specific concern? I can’t say I’ve noticed much anti-social behaviour here other than the usual bored teens. You can’t control who your neighbours will be, private or social. Either could end up a nightmare. We’re surrounded by lovely neighbours here and I’ve no idea if they own their homes or not.

BEdS_83 · 28-07-2020 11:06pm

mr_fruitbowl wrote: »

I've emailed both Carin and Hooke & MacDonald regarding available houses in Parkside.

Carin just sent an email back saying Hooke & MacDonal will follow up, but I've not heard anything back.

Does anyone know if there are still houses available?

4bed gone.
3bed as listed below.

BEdS_83 · 28-07-2020 11:08pm

BEdS_83 wrote: »

4bed gone.
3bed as listed below.

did anyone notice that amount of ads selling house at Parkside square, that got me curious, it's like 3 ads in the last 30 days or so, is it about the school? maybe traffic during the peak time..

thepolymath · 28-07-2020 11:12pm

Col_30 wrote: »

All new estates have some social housing. I don’t think you’ll be able to identify the units. What’s your specific concern? I can’t say I’ve noticed much anti-social behaviour here other than the usual bored teens. You can’t control who your neighbours will be, private or social. Either could end up a nightmare. We’re surrounded by lovely neighbours here and I’ve no idea if they own their homes or not.

Great to hear the excellent community spirit in Parkside and we are exactly looking for the same environment for our small family. We are perfectly fine with social housing in new estates. The only concern is to have the social housing spread throughout the development as orignally envisaged and not concerntrated in a single place/block.

mr_fruitbowl · 31-07-2020 10:11am

Would someone be able to PM me any solicitors they've dealt with for Parkside?

lcarrol3 · 03-08-2020 9:54am

Has anyone been given any indication as to when the houses in the new phase will be ready for move in?

bbehan202 · 03-08-2020 10:01am

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Has anyone been given any indication as to when the houses in the new phase will be ready for move in?

I heard November for snagging.

bbehan202 · 03-08-2020 10:02am

mr_fruitbowl wrote: »

Would someone be able to PM me any solicitors they've dealt with for Parkside?

Do you mean on the vendor side or buyer side?

dhruvrai · 03-08-2020 10:16am

Hello guys,

Thank you for answering my questions.

The Ref No. to the planning permission of the phase 5B is 3791/18

Search for Dublin city council permissions and add that number to find the complete documents and inch by inch measurement of everything.

According to the plan, I can see that there will be houses in west side future development and Duplexes in the south side.

Parkside also got the permission to build 282 Apartments opposite side of the road towards north. So the major social housing might be concentrated over there if there were any.

Anyone in the C-type converted their Attic? Can someone please post a picture after conversion?

mr_fruitbowl · 03-08-2020 1:54pm

bbehan202 wrote: »

Do you mean on the vendor side or buyer side?

Buyer side. Would be greatly appreciated.

thepolymath · 03-08-2020 3:18pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Has anyone been given any indication as to when the houses in the new phase will be ready for move in?

EA mentioned target is Dec 2020 however minor delay should be expected.

bbehan202 · 03-08-2020 6:03pm

thepolymath wrote: »

EA mentioned target is Dec 2020 however minor delay should be expected.

Last I got from EA was "November for snagging" so I guess this times with Dec 2020 for moving in.

bbehan202 · 03-08-2020 6:11pm

mr_fruitbowl wrote: »

Buyer side. Would be greatly appreciated.

I haven't had a sniff about contracts yet and EA hasn't asked me for solicitor details so holding off a bit. Have he/she nudged you for solicitor details?

To answer your question - you are best to go with a friend/family member's solicitor they can vouch for. In my experience it's best to pay a bit more as you need the solicitor to MOVE FAST given how slow and inefficient the whole process of buying is.

The worst case scenario is you are paying the mortgage and you don't have the keys yet. This happened to me once believe or not.

mr_fruitbowl · 10-08-2020 2:10pm

I've been requested to provide solicitor details but no talks of contracts just yet.

Would hate to pay and not have keys.

takichi15 · 12-08-2020 10:44am

We have been told that they are running a little late, but contracts should be sent by the end of this week.

Question: Is it normal that houses pay for Service charges of ~250Euro (owner management company) just because the phase has appartments/duplexes? Previous phases in Parkside did not have any management company.

bbehan202 · 12-08-2020 3:38pm

Keep me posted on contracts and I will update thread when my solicitor notifies me.

It is not normal to pay management charges for houses but in fairness area looks to be kept well. AFAIK it doesn't cover bins though.

I guess a few of us could volunteer of a Saturday and look after it ourselves and get rid of the charge ? I assume we will have voting rights, AGM etc.

takichi15 wrote: »

We have been told that they are running a little late, but contracts should be sent by the end of this week.

Question: Is it normal that houses pay for Service charges of ~250Euro (owner management company) just because the phase has appartments/duplexes? Previous phases in Parkside did not have any management company.

mr_fruitbowl · 13-08-2020 2:26pm

There's quite a lot of green/flowers in the area. I would imagine it's for general upkeep of the area? Never owned a home before but I'd imagine there'd be an AGM alright.

If contracts get sorted now, does that mean the mortgage would start even though the houses won't be built until December/January?

bbehan202 · 13-08-2020 2:36pm

mr_fruitbowl wrote: »

There's quite a lot of green/flowers in the area. I would imagine it's for general upkeep of the area? Never owned a home before but I'd imagine there'd be an AGM alright.

If contracts get sorted now, does that mean the mortgage would start even though the houses won't be built until December/January?

Not at this stage. The initial contracts (i.e. the ones I referenced above) are at the first round to make the deal binding i.e. if you or the seller pull out after this stage there will be financial penalties for the instigating party. The deal will be sealed at a later stage (with another round of contracts) and then the mortgage is drawn down. Your solicitor will explain the process and sequencing of events.

I can't emphasise the importance of good communication with your solicitor to check in on all the moving pieces. The sale agreed > sold > keys in hand process is BANANAS.

I've actually never understood fully how it all works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lcarrol3 · 13-08-2020 4:09pm

Hi all, my partner and I were hoping to buy one of the new homes in the new phase but were given the run around by the bank. We've now gone today to put down a deposit and have been informed this phase is now sold out. Understandably heartbroken as we were hoping this would be our first home.

However, we've been watching very closely on this thread and in close contact with H&M but we never saw the homes on Walker Row, Walker Grove and Parkside Gardens advertised. Are we losing our minds? And if they haven't been sold privately, does anyone know where they were sold?

bbehan202 · 13-08-2020 4:34pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

Hi all, my partner and I were hoping to buy one of the new homes in the new phase but were given the run around by the bank. We've now gone today to put down a deposit and have been informed this phase is now sold out. Understandably heartbroken as we were hoping this would be our first home.

However, we've been watching very closely on this thread and in close contact with H&M but we never saw the homes on Walker Row, Walker Grove and Parkside Gardens advertised. Are we losing our minds? And if they haven't been sold privately, does anyone know where they were sold?

1. Never put emotion into buying a home. Think of it as a business deal. Putting emotion into it can make you do things like bid more than it's worth. Property purchases sometimes fall through so they should have a cancellation list that you can be placed on.

2. You should pay a booking deposit even if you don't have mortgage approval (but are confident you will get one). Estate agents will lie through their teeth to get you to sign so string them along as much as you can. Worst case scenario: If you can't get the mortgage - the booking deposit is fully refundable.

Skirt around the issue of mortgage approval if they ask you. In my experience they rarely push on getting the letter which states you have mortgage approval. The booking deposit is the money they keep for their fee so don't care once funds have been transferred. If they press for the letter hold them off "Bank is sending letter through, lots of delays etc." and burn midnight oil on getting approval. Turnaround for banks is long at the moment but EA accepted mortgage approval from me before from an email I had with a bank manager asking me to come in and talk about a mortgage.

3. If you tell EA you are not mortgage approved or going through mortgage approval process they will push you to the end of their list and answer you last. When new homes become available - they will have a pool of "mortgage approved" people to contact. This is how I found out about Parkside Gardens as previous estate I wanted was gone by the time I finished my pool of viewings. You are not a priority of them - remember they are sales people and just want deals closed.

lcarrol3 · 13-08-2020 5:31pm

bbehan202 wrote: »

1. Never put emotion into buying a home. Think of it as a business deal. Putting emotion into it can make you do things like bid more than it's worth. Property purchases sometimes fall through so they should have a cancellation list that you can be placed on.

2. You should pay a booking deposit even if you don't have mortgage approval (but are confident you will get one). Estate agents will lie through their teeth to get you to sign so string them along as much as you can. Worst case scenario: If you can't get the mortgage - the booking deposit is fully refundable.

Skirt around the issue of mortgage approval if they ask you. In my experience they rarely push on getting the letter which states you have mortgage approval. The booking deposit is the money they keep for their fee so don't care once funds have been transferred. If they press for the letter hold them off "Bank is sending letter through, lots of delays etc." and burn midnight oil on getting approval. Turnaround for banks is long at the moment but EA accepted mortgage approval from me before from an email I had with a bank manager asking me to come in and talk about a mortgage.

3. If you tell EA you are not mortgage approved or going through mortgage approval process they will push you to the end of their list and answer you last. When new homes become available - they will have a pool of "mortgage approved" people to contact. This is how I found out about Parkside Gardens as previous estate I wanted was gone by the time I finished my pool of viewings. You are not a priority of them - remember they are sales people and just want deals closed.

Appreciate your reply. We had a **** situation where we did not think we were going to get the approval until about a week ago.

On cancellation list now. Just hoping to hear what the story is with the roads named above if one becomes available.

thepolymath · 13-08-2020 11:24pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

However, we've been watching very closely on this thread and in close contact with H&M but we never saw the homes on Walker Row, Walker Grove and Parkside Gardens advertised. Are we losing our minds? And if they haven't been sold privately, does anyone know where they were sold?

FYI. I checked with EA for the properties on Walker Row and it was mentioned to me that the houses on Walker Row have not yet been released for sale and they expect these houses to be released by end of the year. Same might be applicable for Walker Grove.

However, best to my knowledge, houses on Parkside Gardens were first to release and are already booked.

lcarrol3 · 14-08-2020 8:07am

thepolymath wrote: »

FYI. I checked with EA for the properties on Walker Row and it was mentioned to me that the houses on Walker Row have not yet been released for sale and they expect these houses to be released by end of the year. Same might be applicable for Walker Grove.

However, best to my knowledge, houses on Parkside Gardens were first to release and are already booked.

Ah that is brilliant to hear! Thanks so much! Little bit of hope

bbehan202 · 17-08-2020 2:00pm

For folks that's gone sale agreed on Parkside Gardens - has anyone got any update on contracts yet? Nothing on my side yet.

takichi15 · 17-08-2020 2:47pm

Still nothing on my side too!

bbehan202 · 25-08-2020 3:52pm

Checking in again. Sweet f all here for me new gaff. Anyone else got contracts yet?

takichi15 · 25-08-2020 6:16pm

Nothing here. Did you get news yourself?

bbehan202 · 25-08-2020 6:21pm

takichi15 wrote: »

Nothing here. Did you get news yourself?

Nope

Leozord · 26-08-2020 1:27am

hey folks,

I've been watching closely the development of the new properties in Parkside. Was thinking between Parkside and Belltree, but maybe I overthought and all of them are sold out

But to give a bit of context, I've started checking some properties also in the Belmayne Estate, next to Parkside.

Have you heard anything unusual about the area?

The past two weeks I've seen a spike of apartments/houses ads on daft's. I'd say about 15-20ish. Is there something happening in there that everyone decided to sell their houses out of the blue?

I checked some old posts saying that there were some fire-related issues and residents some expensive bill for fixing etc...

BEdS_83 · 26-08-2020 10:24am

Leozord wrote: »

hey folks,

I've been watching closely the development of the new properties in Parkside. Was thinking between Parkside and Belltree, but maybe I overthought and all of them are sold out

But to give a bit of context, I've started checking some properties also in the Belmayne Estate, next to Parkside.

Have you heard anything unusual about the area?

The past two weeks I've seen a spike of apartments/houses ads on daft's. I'd say about 15-20ish. Is there something happening in there that everyone decided to sell their houses out of the blue?

I checked some old posts saying that there were some fire-related issues and residents some expensive bill for fixing etc...

was asking myself the same, did you see how many houses were put for sale on Parkside Square? I think I counted 4 in the last 30 days +/- 1 sold already, 1 sale agreed and 2 still there.

lcarrol3 · 26-08-2020 10:53am

BEdS_83 wrote: »

was asking myself the same, did you see how many houses were put for sale on Parkside Square? I think I counted 4 in the last 30 days +/- 1 sold already, 1 sale agreed and 2 still there.

I've counted nearly 15 sold in the last six months which seems a lot. I walk around there a lot so was hoping to try catch one of the sellers and ask why - can't do any harm to be a bit cheeky. Will keep you posted.

bbehan202 · 26-08-2020 11:18am

Only 4 sold on PPR. See screenshot attached.
7 in Belmayne

My guess is folks circumstances have changed due to COVID and are mortgage'd up to their eyeballs. I have been up there a few times and seems like a nice area.

If anyone knows anything else though would be interested to hear.

Leozord · 26-08-2020 12:04pm

OK so here's my findings

Had a chat with two lads from work, was able to get some info. One lives inside Belmayne, another lives nearby but his brother lives in Parkside and, coincidentally, is selling his gaff as well.

It seems that the motivation for the people to sell their properties in Belmayne and Parkside are because of this: https://parksideblvdshdplanning.com/full-notice

Just across the road from Belmayne/Parkside, in the north side, there will be a big development of apartments. 282 new apartments from 1 to 3 bed, which according to one of the lads that live nearby, will be used for social housing.

I found a bit strange the fact that apartments have a such bad reputation in Ireland, but then he explained to me why, told me about the people that are not able to get a house for themselves, the dole thing etc. I'm not aware how social housing works and don't know if it is bad or not etc - you probably know way more than me.

Finally, the one who lives in Belmayne said good things about the place. It is nice, quiet, safe, his kids play on the street all day long etc. It seems to be a pretty chill part of the city. I read the stories of kids with balaclavas in Clongriffin (guess here on the board) but it seems to not happen anymore, at least not like 3-5 years ago, raiding into the train station etc.

Hope it helped a bit.

bbehan202 · 26-08-2020 1:13pm

I don't know if I believe that people make decisions based on that. To up and move home for something that hasn't happened yet seems like a knee-jerk reaction - especially if you've moved in a year or two ago.

lcarrol3 · 26-08-2020 1:19pm

bbehan202 wrote: »

Only 4 sold on PPR. See screenshot attached.

7 in Belmayne

My guess is folks circumstances have changed due to COVID and are mortgage'd up to their eyeballs. I have been up there a few times and seems like a nice area.

If anyone knows anything else though would be interested to hear.

My apologies - I meant listed rather than sold! I live in the area and it is quite nice and I'd have no hesitation buying. Just seems a bit odd.

Col_30 · 26-08-2020 2:03pm

lcarrol3 wrote: »

I've counted nearly 15 sold in the last six months which seems a lot. I walk around there a lot so was hoping to try catch one of the sellers and ask why - can't do any harm to be a bit cheeky. Will keep you posted.

They’ll probably quite rightly tell you to mind your own business. So your detective work has come up with nothing. Maybe people are selling up because their circumstances have changed. It’s a huge estate. People have been buying/selling here since we moved in 3 years ago. This is normal. There’s no major issues in Parkside or Belmayne for that matter aside from the usual petty crime that blights all Dublin suburbs. There’s a higher percentage of social housing in Belmayne that puts people off. But I couldn’t tell you exactly where before you ask.

Col_30 · 26-08-2020 2:07pm

Leozord wrote: »

OK so here's my findings

Had a chat with two lads from work, was able to get some info. One lives inside Belmayne, another lives nearby but his brother lives in Parkside and, coincidentally, is selling his gaff as well.

It seems that the motivation for the people to sell their properties in Belmayne and Parkside are because of this: https://parksideblvdshdplanning.com/full-notice

Just across the road from Belmayne/Parkside, in the north side, there will be a big development of apartments. 282 new apartments from 1 to 3 bed, which according to one of the lads that live nearby, will be used for social housing.

I found a bit strange the fact that apartments have a such bad reputation in Ireland, but then he explained to me why, told me about the people that are not able to get a house for themselves, the dole thing etc. I'm not aware how social housing works and don't know if it is bad or not etc - you probably know way more than me.

Finally, the one who lives in Belmayne said good things about the place. It is nice, quiet, safe, his kids play on the street all day long etc. It seems to be a pretty chill part of the city. I read the stories of kids with balaclavas in Clongriffin (guess here on the board) but it seems to not happen anymore, at least not like 3-5 years ago, raiding into the train station etc.

Hope it helped a bit.

We’ve known about this a long time. It’s very near where I live. It’s a private high end development similar to the other apartments that have just been competed (Vesta). The area is getting built up and I actually think this is a positive as I hated all the empty sites around the place and these actually attract anti social behaviour.

dmcg90 · 26-08-2020 2:40pm

Col_30 wrote: »

We’ve known about this a long time. It’s very near where I live. It’s a private high end development similar to the other apartments that have just been competed (Vesta). The area is getting built up and I actually think this is a positive as I hated all the empty sites around the place and these actually attract anti social behaviour.

+1. Houses gotta go somewhere and given we're in a full blown housing crisis, leaving that unused when we have multiple parks beside us feels like a poor use. If anything, it might give us some better services if more people come to the area, we might hopefully get more shops in Clongriffin Main St, better development of the Belmayne Main St, Bus Connects, more train services etc.

bbehan202 · 31-08-2020 11:41am

Anyone any contracts yet? Nothing on my side.

takichi15 · 31-08-2020 11:50am

Nothing here!

brisan · 31-08-2020 1:10pm

Leozord wrote: »

hey folks,

I've been watching closely the development of the new properties in Parkside. Was thinking between Parkside and Belltree, but maybe I overthought and all of them are sold out

But to give a bit of context, I've started checking some properties also in the Belmayne Estate, next to Parkside.

Have you heard anything unusual about the area?

The past two weeks I've seen a spike of apartments/houses ads on daft's. I'd say about 15-20ish. Is there something happening in there that everyone decided to sell their houses out of the blue?

I checked some old posts saying that there were some fire-related issues and residents some expensive bill for fixing etc...

There was and still is an issue with pyrite in some buildings in Belmayne
Pyrite will lead to subsidence and a pyrite affected building will not be able to get a mortgage .
Again I am not sure how widespread the problem is but if you are thinking of buying here make sure your surveyor checks .
The only sure way of knowing is to drill holes into the foundations and take samples ,but that is not practical if its not your property
Some houses will state its affected by pyrite

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/2-belmayne-park-east-balgriffin-dublin-13/4340254

Other properties will have a pyrite free cert in place

https://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/11-churchwell-grove-belmayne-dublin-13/4382091

With the others its buyers beware and forewarned is forearmed

mjshravan · 04-09-2020 2:52am

Did you guys consider new priory hall, opp father's Collin park?

takichi15 · 14-09-2020 11:14am

Hi Guys, Would you have any updates regarding contracts? Nothing from my side!

bbehan202 · 14-09-2020 11:23am

EA told me the solicitors are behind and can't put a date. This is normal though. The process on solicitor's side is a pain in the hole for all purchases.

Snagging still on track for November and keys for December though. The houses look like they are coming along nicely.

mr_fruitbowl · 17-09-2020 10:35am

bbehan202 wrote: »

EA told me the solicitors are behind and can't put a date. This is normal though. The process on solicitor's side is a pain in the hole for all purchases.

Snagging still on track for November and keys for December though. The houses look like they are coming along nicely.

Thanks for the update. Good to know where we are at.

Have you/anyone signed anything at all? My first time going through this and bit surprised I haven't signed anything at this point.

bbehan202 · 17-09-2020 11:00am

mr_fruitbowl wrote: »

Thanks for the update. Good to know where we are at.

Have you/anyone signed anything at all? My first time going through this and bit surprised I haven't signed anything at this point.

I just got a receipt for the booking deposit with terms attached. Next step after this is receiving the contracts and then you should be in constant contact with you solicitor once this happens.

The speed of your solicitor depends on the speed of the solicitor on the vendor side. Tbh I dunno what the hell they do but it always takes time.

Ovenumo · 21-09-2020 12:13pm

Hey everyone, I am sale agreed on Walker Green and has just been advised by the estate agent that solicitors are behind but she was advised today that contracts will be at the end of September. I was also told that the building is ahead of schedule so looking like the beginning of Nov for snagging rather than the end. I’m not sure whether to believe it or not because I know delays can happen but good news all the same!

Parkside Homes New Development (Balgriffin)

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