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Newstalk: 'Lunchtime Live' with Andrea Gilligan

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    After finishing a long meeting I turned on the radio and Lunchtime Live was on.

    People giving out about dogsh1t on the streets - something that drives me absolutely nuts - and suggestions to take DNA samples from the crap like the Germans do.

    Followed up by introducing a fella called Badger who once tattooed Britney Spears.

    I turned off at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    She's just awful and I have the show on in the same way as I listen to Lavhline - another train wreck. Britney Spears - I couldn't care less and I didn't know until this programme whether she was dead or alive. As for having some asshole who doesn't have a real name on the show. :rolleyes:


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    Oh Andrea. I'm not talking to the woman but I could still catch that it was this month the poor woman lost her mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,065 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Caller: college is harder in your bedroom, everything is harder in your bedroom
    :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    fair points made on irish placenames, the anglicised 'bastardisation' of irish placenames are nonsense and don't mean anything.

    callers having difficulty getting deliveries using irish placenames even with an post is a joke..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Shinners desperate for publicity? This lad needs to get a life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    is everyone who speaks irish a shinner now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    gourcuff wrote: »
    is everyone who speaks irish a shinner now?


    I didn't say that but he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the wicked Brits - 800 years of oppression and all that - if the cap fits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    I didn't say that but he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the wicked Brits - 800 years of oppression and all that - if the cap fits.


    Historical fact.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Historical fact.




    Yeah, yeah but Ireland has had a hundred years to get over it. As I say, there are serious things need doing in this country and fecking about with placenames is not one of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    I didn't say that but he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the wicked Brits - 800 years of oppression and all that - if the cap fits.

    i mean our place names were anglicised into nonsense. that actually happened. A part of our culture was certainly lost.

    I don't consider it a shinner issue - if someone was concerned about a loss of our georgian architectural heritage i wouldn't label them a royalist or imperialist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    gourcuff wrote: »
    i mean our place names were anglicised into nonsense. that actually happened. A part of our culture was certainly lost.

    I don't consider it a shinner issue - if someone was concerned about a loss of our georgian architectural heritage i wouldn't label them a royalist or imperialist


    Funny thing is that when Desmond Guinness restarted the Irish Georgian Society they were lambasted as being West Brits. Anyway, I feel sorry for anybody who loses sleep over anglicised place names. As for ordering stuff from GB using an Irish language name and address - why bother if you actual want to receive the goods? I believe in supplying the clearest possible information on the assumption that my order will be dealt with by an idiot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Funny thing is that when Desmond Guinness restarted the Irish Georgian Society they were lambasted as being West Brits. Anyway, I feel sorry for anybody who loses sleep over anglicised place names. As for ordering stuff from GB using an Irish language name and address - why bother if you actual want to receive the goods? I believe in supplying the clearest possible information on the assumption that my order will be dealt with by an idiot.

    this was also An Post..

    some people are happy to accept anything that happens to them, regardless of how unjust, ridiculous, or discriminatory it is, some people aren't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    gourcuff wrote: »
    this was also An Post..

    some people are happy to accept anything that happens to them, regardless of how unjust, ridiculous, or discriminatory it is, some people aren't.


    And some people have little to do with their time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    you could say that about anything though - (i watch man united - you've little to do with your time) (i post on message boards - you've little to do with your time)

    people are allowed care and have the ability to care about multiple things at the same time.

    irish culture/history/ the language/irish music/irish sports are not important to some people, to others they are..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    I didn't say that but he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder about the wicked Brits - 800 years of oppression and all that - if the cap fits.


    I heard the caller say that anglicised place-names ia legacy of colonialism.

    That's an uncontroversial historical fact.
    I didn't get any impression his issue was "800 yrs of oppression".


    Maybe you need to listen without predjudice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    I heard the caller say that anglicised place-names ia legacy of colonialism.

    That's an uncontroversial historical fact.
    I didn't get any impression his issue was "800 yrs of oppression".


    Maybe you need to listen without predjudice.


    Thank you but there were two callers on and one of them had clear issues with the aforementioned 800 years. What would he do about towns with names like Waterford and Wexford?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    gourcuff wrote: »
    fair points made on irish placenames, the anglicised 'bastardisation' of irish placenames are nonsense and don't mean anything.

    callers having difficulty getting deliveries using irish placenames even with an post is a joke..

    Inconvenient facts. Not enough Irish people know their own language, FWIW the notion that we are bilingual is a complete cod.

    Everyone can speak English and understand a placename in English. Whether that name is gibberish or not is irrelevant to a delivery reaching its destination in a timely manner.

    So unless you send every postman and courier on a compulsory Irish placename course (lol), what are you gonna do?
    In short, if you want your parcel delayed, put the address in Irish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,971 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Inconvenient facts. Not enough Irish people know their own language, FWIW the notion that we are bilingual is a complete cod.

    Everyone can speak English and understand a placename in English. Whether that name is gibberish or not is irrelevant to a delivery reaching its destination in a timely manner.

    So unless you send every postman and courier on a compulsory Irish placename course (lol), what are you gonna do?
    In short, if you want your parcel delayed, put the address in Irish.
    Don't be giving the quangos ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Don't be giving the quangos ideas.

    I'm sure lobby groups like Conradh (who furnish stats that Irish is doing great and at the same time is in danger and needs funding) can always find new and inventive ways of pissing away money without my help. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Thank you but there were two callers on and one of them had clear issues with the aforementioned 800 years. What would he do about towns with names like Waterford and Wexford?


    I don't see why anything needs to be done with them. An Post needs to recognise both Irish and English versions of the names on a delivery.

    If google can do it An Post ought to - especially if it's a legal requirement as stated in the interview.


    The problems would likely be with street and townland names. Eir codes should help avoid errors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    But the Anglicised names aren't gibberish. Or at least not often. Maybe Kenmare for one.
    There is usually a logical connection between the names e.g

    Cill - Kill, a church
    Dun - a fort
    Baile - Bally.

    Ath , Rath - etc , etc
    Does nobody play the game of trying to solve the puzzle of the translation passing through a unfamiliar town?


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    another issue is organisations asking for irish peoples names in english... don't think that would happen to any other nationality, why do we tolerate it in ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    gourcuff wrote: »
    another issue is organisations asking for irish peoples names in english... don't think that would happen to any other nationality, why do we tolerate it in ireland?

    No one cares, except the hair shirt tweedy jacket wearing enthusiasts of the medium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    No one cares, except the hair shirt tweedy jacket wearing enthusiasts of the medium.

    I think most people like to have their name used correctly. It's a matter of respect for one thing. Even whiskey drinkers can take offence.

    As for uncooperative organisations; inconsistencies in names can cause inconvenience, maybe even legal consequences. Especially with so many online transactions now.
    Even the misuse of the surname apostrophe can be a hassle. (Now that's a feature I wish had been anglicied into oblivion.)

    I'm reminded of the people insisting on giving an English first name to an asian person. Or many Irish people not making the effort to pronounce the european version of a name.
    It's rude and disrespectful, but hey, can't be arsed making an effort to remember or pronounce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I think most people like to have their name used correctly. It's a matter of respect for one thing. Even whiskey drinkers can take offence.

    As for uncooperative organisations; inconsistencies in names can cause inconvenience, maybe even legal consequences. Especially with so many online transactions now.
    Even the misuse of the surname apostrophe can be a hassle. (Now that's a feature I wish had been anglicied into oblivion.)

    I'm reminded of the people insisting on giving an English first name to an asian person. Or many Irish people not making the effort to pronounce the european version of a name.
    It's rude and disrespectful, but hey, can't be arsed making an effort to remember or pronounce.

    I have an unusual name and if ppl get it, fine, if they don't I'm not going to lose a night's sleep over it like more sensitive souls.

    The caller who was heartbroken that he couldn't converse with Gardai at a checkpoint in Irish has little to worry him in these times. Twats like that give Irish speakers a bad name.


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    God she is terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    God she is terrible.

    Needs to be repeated with anyone listening right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭fire_man


    The slot with Bobby fairly poor today.Gap filler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Needs to be repeated with anyone listening right now.

    I’m not really sure it’s her fault. The whole “phone in” setup is just dreadful.

    Leave that to RTÉ and the old people who enjoy listening to the opinions of people you’d be actively trying to avoid on the street or in the pub.

    Susan Keogh would make it easier to endure but that’s just a personal “preference”.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Today she has excelled herself by waxing lyrical about the Stella Cinema in Rathmines - you would swear she was a regular but it turned out in the course of the interview that she has never even been in it. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭Kamili


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Today she has excelled herself by waxing lyrical about the Stella Cinema in Rathmines - you would swear she was a regular but it turned out in the course of the interview that she has never even been in it. :rolleyes:

    That's a bit like a wannabe influencer trying to get a freebie..

    Wasn't that a discussion point on her show recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Today she has excelled herself by waxing lyrical about the Stella Cinema in Rathmines - you would swear she was a regular but it turned out in the course of the interview that she has never even been in it. :rolleyes:

    She was probably just paraphrasing the Irish Times article from yesterday, or the Time Out article that it was reporting on...


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    I can't stomach that accent at all.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can't stomach that accent at all.

    to be fair that's not Andrea's fault and if she got the job despite her Donegal accent fair play to her. Donegal accents differ, my sister has lived there for 25 years and her accent is a soft one. However its the content of the show I have more of an issue with most days., usually its pretty pathethic.

    Today is better, at least she is highlighting the appalling mess of the vaccine roll out! People in their eighties, nineties and even a 100 year old STILL not vaccinated. Keep the pressure on Andrea!


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    to be fair that's not Andrea's fault and if she got the job despite her Donegal accent fair play to her. Donegal accents differ, my sister has lived there for 25 years and her accent is a soft one. However its the content of the show I have more of an issue with most days., usually its pretty pathethic.

    Today is better, at least she is highlighting the appalling mess of the vaccine roll out! People in their eighties, nineties and even a 100 year old STILL not vaccinated. Keep the pressure on Andrea!

    Oh no not Andrea's accent! It was the girl who owned the cafe in Bray. She had one of those terrible South Dublin twangs that nobody who I know from South Dub actually sounds like :D


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh no not Andrea's accent! It was the girl who owned the cafe in Bray. She had one of those terrible South Dublin twangs that nobody who I know from South Dub actually sounds like :D

    ahhhhh apologies! Yeah I agree with you on the SCD accent :D:D


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    ahhhhh apologies! Yeah I agree with you on the SCD accent :D:D

    :D


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    to be fair that's not Andrea's fault and if she got the job despite her Donegal accent fair play to her. Donegal accents differ, my sister has lived there for 25 years and her accent is a soft one. However its the content of the show I have more of an issue with most days., usually its pretty pathethic.

    Today is better, at least she is highlighting the appalling mess of the vaccine roll out! People in their eighties, nineties and even a 100 year old STILL not vaccinated. Keep the pressure on Andrea!

    Yeah Ive nothing against her accent, but its the content. You go from Pat Kenny which is varied and often very interesting, to Ray Darcy's offcuts.


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  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gourcuff wrote: »
    why midlands radio? why shouldn't she be on newstalk??, i think shes good in a difficult slot

    Only just saw this comment now.

    Why is it a difficult slot? The station is called NewsTalk. How about analysis of news? Not decluttering your home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    I can't stomach that accent at all.

    but her face makes up for it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Some pile of crap on the show today. The English one at the start was a right dose. Harry and Meghen have brought all this on themselves and obviously have no respect for the monarchy or his grandparents. Not the first American divorcee to cause problems for the Royal Family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    Only just saw this comment now.

    Why is it a difficult slot? The station is called NewsTalk. How about analysis of news? Not decluttering your home.

    Indeed, Claire Byrne's radio show is much the same now, fluffy, lifestyle magazine show, unrecognisable from its previous incarnation under Sean O'Rourke. Radio execs. have obviously decided this is the way to go.

    On a more positive note, at least the taxpayers aren't funding Andrea's wages and she's probably on less than a third of Claire Byrne's salary anyway.

    Claire Byrne's rise to prominence is a mystery to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Murdoc90


    Andrea is totally inept at pulling people up on things. Just saying "right.. snigger.. right ok" and an awkward pause is so hard to listen to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,675 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Jesus. These clowns with their "nobody's allowed question anything" bullshìt.

    It's just straight up untrue.

    Pillock.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Murdoc90 wrote: »
    Andrea is totally inept at pulling people up on things. Just saying "right.. snigger.. right ok" and an awkward pause is so hard to listen to.

    She gives them rope.


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    It must be really awful to live like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    And Andrea's at it again - women living in fear. Why women - it's law abiding citizens that live in fear on the streets not just women. Of course, politically correct Newstalk can't discuss the elephant in the room - the laughable policing and the justice system in this country. A non-existent police presence on the street and a judiciary who couldn't hand out a decent sentence to save their lives and a political class completely out of touch with public opinion. :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭crazy 88


    Murdoc90 wrote: »
    Andrea is totally inept at pulling people up on things. Just saying "right.. snigger.. right ok" and an awkward pause is so hard to listen to.

    You can tell she's very uncomfortable talking to people with opinions different to hers. You get a "hmmm" and "ok" and then "ok thanks for contacting us" and the person is disconnected before they say anything further. It makes for awful radio. At least Ciara Kelly had some fight in her. I wish they had someone like James O'Brien in this slot.


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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    And Andrea's at it again - women living in fear. Why women - it's law abiding citizens that live in fear on the streets not just women. Of course, politically correct Newstalk can't discuss the elephant in the room - the laughable policing and the justice system in this country. A non-existent police presence on the street and a judiciary who couldn't hand out a decent sentence to save their lives and a political class completely out of touch with public opinion. :mad:

    The experiences of some of the women on the show were dreadful. It makes sense that afterwards they would be in a state of hyper vigilance while out in the world. I would hope though that they can receive support so as to live their lives without fear.

    I don't like the narrative that all women are nervous and anxious because of men. It diminishes us, reduces us to meek observers in our lives. The woman with her baby who was scared to go to her car because there were 2 men near by, I mean where does that come from?


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