Conor McGregor

RainMaker · 08-04-2013 7:59pm

He's everywhere!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1594727-ufc-on-fuel-9-results-the-real-winners-and-losers-from-mousasi-vs-latifi/page/3

The Cage Warriors two-division champ is probably already the best Irish cage fighter ever.

Of course, if you want to get factual about it, Tom Egan is the only other Irishman to fight in the UFC, and he went 0-1. Maybe that's why there was uncertainty over whether that green wave of hype Conor McGregor rode into his Octagon debut was justified.

After McGregor's first-round TKO of a fired-up Marcus Brimage evened Ireland's all-time UFC record, there should be no more uncertainty. That green wave is probably set to swell to a tsunami. We could look back at this humble card and remember it as the start of something big.

scudzilla · 08-04-2013 8:02pm

RainMaker wrote: »

He's everywhere!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1594727-ufc-on-fuel-9-results-the-real-winners-and-losers-from-mousasi-vs-latifi/page/3

The Cage Warriors two-division champ is probably already the best Irish cage fighter ever.

Of course, if you want to get factual about it, Tom Egan is the only other Irishman to fight in the UFC, and he went 0-1. Maybe that's why there was uncertainty over whether that green wave of hype Conor McGregor rode into his Octagon debut was justified.

After McGregor's first-round TKO of a fired-up Marcus Brimage evened Ireland's all-time UFC record, there should be no more uncertainty. That green wave is probably set to swell to a tsunami. We could look back at this humble card and remember it as the start of something big.

Stevie Lynch and Colin Robinson both fought at UFC 72, Big Col also fought at UFC 80

unknown13 · 08-04-2013 8:10pm

He has just mentioned Norman Parke as he would like to fight in Boston

scudzilla · 08-04-2013 8:15pm

Hahahaha, he's a fcukin chef now!!!

Pack it up with all sorts of shit

:D:D

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 8:16pm

hahaha don't know what to say - he just makes a great interview.... just a happy guy gives off such a good vibe!!

UncleChael · 08-04-2013 8:38pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

We regurlarly get boxers competing at the top levels and you wouldn't hear too much.

Yeah but those guys cant defend takedowns.

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:17pm

UncleChael wrote: »

Yeah but those guys cant defend takedowns.

Neither can any MMA fighter. If somebody wants to take it to the ground they can with little bother.

El Guapo! · 08-04-2013 9:18pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

Neither can any MMA fighter. If somebody wants to take it to the ground they can with little bother.

What??
I'm sorry but that doesn't make much sense. Some fighters have excellent takedown defense. Not every fighter can take it to the ground whenever they feel like it.

Professey Chin · 08-04-2013 9:19pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

Neither can any MMA fighter. If somebody wants to take it to the ground they can with little bother.

Yep...UhHuh....Hmmm....yes....
Now maybe you should actually go watch some fights and learn a bit.

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:23pm

You are taking this off topic but then please enlighten me. Show me some videos of guys forcing a fight into a standup despite having multiple take down attempts.

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 9:23pm

I hate those that chop down newcomers to this MMA forum or to MMA in general... but for gods sake dude don't make statements backed up by no knowledge. A great All Black rugby tackler would have little chance getting the best takedown defenders in MMA to the ground if they were similar in size!

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:27pm

Be like Nutella wrote: »

I hate those that chop down newcomers to this MMA forum or to MMA in general... but for gods sake dude don't make statements backed up by no knowledge. A great All Black rugby tackler would have little chance getting the best takedown defenders in MMA to the ground if they were similar in size!

Ex pro* rugby player here and I highly doubt that.
I've watched about 50 MMA fights and any time I guy has looked for a wrestle he has been able to have one. Its really wrestling with a bit of striking.

*Full time academy player. Thats about as good I got.

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 9:36pm

Ok Joe see the problem here is very simple.... you haven't a clue about what you're talking about and I'm not trying to be smart I'm just simply echoing the sentiment that you may need a bit more experience watching MMA to make such false baseless statements like anyone can take anyone down. Forget my rugby analogy it was crap anyway.

mind you there are a few guys in MMA who could take MOST guys down whether they liked it or not - GSP is one, as you know.

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:38pm

Be like Nutella wrote: »

Ok Joe see the problem here is very simple.... you haven't a clue about what you're talking about and I'm not trying to be smart I'm just simply echoing the sentiment that you may need a bit more experience watching MMA to make such false baseless statements like anyone can take anyone down. Forget my rugby analogy it was crap anyway.

mind you there are a few guys in MMA who could take MOST guys down whether they liked it or not - GSP is one, as you know.

I tried. I picked a random MMA fight on youtube, first one I came across. Its 90% wrestling and goes down whenever one guy wants it to. I've only ever seen standup fights when both fighters want to stay up. Please prove me wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj6CPM_bes

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 9:41pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

I tried. I picked a random MMA fight on youtube, first one I came across. Its 90% wrestling and goes down whenever one guy wants it to. I've only ever seen standup fights when both fighters want to stay up. Please prove me wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj6CPM_bes

oh good lord ehhh dya know what.... no. Just no. Have a nice day - go talk bout it in the general chat thread dude. I'm sure you'll be warmly received saying MMA is just

Joe Hart wrote: »

Its really wrestling with a bit of striking.

cowzerp · 08-04-2013 9:42pm

Ray Mond wrote: »

Minor sport? Ha it's the fastest growing sport in the world!! Would ever get a grip!

It's not, that statement might have been true at 1 point but hasn't been for years, numbers of viewers are steady at best, numbers in clubs similar but certainly not exploding in numbers

The fastest growing sport in the world is probably growing from 10 to 100 players this month, growth by 10, in no way is the fastest growing sport an accurate statement, not by viewers, participants or % in growth.

Soccer has probably more new players in a year than their is in Mma in total, I'd say Boxing has way way more new participants worldwide also yearly, % wise probably both less because their already so big, but smaller new sports would have large growth that way.

Anyway. Please stop with the copying joe Rogan propaganda statements.

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:43pm

Be like Nutella wrote: »

oh good lord ehhh dya know what.... no. Just no. Have a nice day - go talk bout it in the general chat thread dude. I'm sure you'll be warmly received saying MMA is just

Second random fight. Wanted one that was all standup. As I guessed it was too guys that wanted to stay up, zero takedown attempts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iFbn9rUCE

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 9:46pm

look this has nothing to do with McGregor - you're wreckin a party here : ) see us over in the General UFC thread and we can debate whether it's easy to take down a professional MMA fighter if you want to - even though they train at defending against that exact thing literally every session for years and years and years.... take it over to general UFC man

adamski8 · 08-04-2013 9:49pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

Second random fight. Wanted one that was all standup. As I guessed it was too guys that wanted to stay up, zero takedown attempts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0iFbn9rUCE

There are plenty of fights where one guy will very visibly stuff takedowns, some fighters more than others. Jose aldo would be a great example. But if your sample size is low i can see how you havent seen it. But yes its more probable that the fight will go to the ground at some stage if 1 or more fighters want it too but cool things can happen on the ground (which is hard to appreciate as a newcomers). Also of course there are wrestlers who try to nullafy the other by holding the other down (most fans and fighters dont like this)

Scar Tissue · 08-04-2013 9:49pm

So some guy comes in trollin and the regulars are biting?

That's disgraceful, Joe

Joe Hart · 08-04-2013 9:51pm

I'm gone to the general thread. I'm always openminded so please educate me.

Stephen_King · 08-04-2013 9:53pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

I tried. I picked a random MMA fight on youtube, first one I came across. Its 90% wrestling and goes down whenever one guy wants it to. I've only ever seen standup fights when both fighters want to stay up. Please prove me wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooj6CPM_bes

Watch any of Chuck Lidells early fights. Or pop into an MMA club and try a wrestling class or two.

MrStuffins · 08-04-2013 10:20pm

adamski8 · 08-04-2013 10:36pm

Back to conor.... Rte have an article up about him now http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2013/0408/380384-mcgregor-i-was-looking-to-dominate-on-ufc-debut/

Wow cant believe rte putting up a decent article

John_D80 · 08-04-2013 10:45pm

Joe Hart wrote: »

Can somebody explain the hype to me. An Irish guy wins a fairly minor bout in what is a minor sport and its the biggest news of the year? I'd understand if he was champion of something.

Is that you egan? Kenny? Kenny?

Be like Nutella · 08-04-2013 11:31pm

Catch weight fight
McGregor vs Egan

Conditions:

Egan gets to sit in his gaf and slag MMA off all he wants from his keyboard trying to pit the Irish boxing community against the MMA community and we'll all try and keep our 'frilly knickers on' and cut down on our protein shakes.

While Conor gets to win loads of UFC fights and make loads of cash !

It's onnnnn

darced · 08-04-2013 11:53pm

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Joe Hart · 09-04-2013 12:02am

darced wrote: »

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His response seemed typical of the aggressive MMA type. I'm sure he thinks he is some kind of hardman warrior outside the ring. That is why the public won't warm to an MMA fighter.

While Conor gets to win loads of UFC fights and make loads of cash !

The purses are fairly pathethic. He was talking about buying bespoke suits after years on the dole. Maybe he might save some of his cash to account for a variable income that might see him without earnings for good stretches. I won't be happy if he is 29, back on the dole but with a wardrobe full of 2 grand suits.

GSPfan · 09-04-2013 12:07am

To Joe Hart. Watch any UFC Jon Jones fight. Never ever taken down. That is all.

Regarding Conors comments to Kenny Egan. No I think it was exactly what was needed. Egan wanted to slag off MMA under the pretence that its all craic when its obvious he was looking to seperate boxing fans from enjoying MMA by claiming its a little gay. He shouldnt have tagged him in that photo. He's basically slagging him off in public.

GSPfan · 09-04-2013 12:12am

Joe Hart wrote: »

His response seemed typical of the aggressive MMA type. I'm sure he thinks he is some kind of hardman warrior outside the ring. That is why the public won't warm to an MMA fighter.

If anyone responds to this seriously you deserve a slap. You are being trolled.

DrPhilG · 09-04-2013 12:19am

GSPfan wrote: »

If anyone responds to this seriously you deserve a slap. You are being trolled.

True, but the fella has been trolling half the threads in the Mma section all night and getting plenty of bites.

Joe Hart · 09-04-2013 12:24am

DrPhilG wrote: »

True, but the fella has been trolling half the threads in the Mma section all night and getting plenty of bites.

A troll is looking for a reaction. I have a genuine contrarian view which should be encouraged here to avoid pointless group think.

Be like Nutella · 09-04-2013 12:54am

Joe Hart wrote: »

His response seemed typical of the aggressive MMA type. I'm sure he thinks he is some kind of hardman warrior outside the ring. That is why the public won't warm to an MMA fighter.

yeah sure
who likes classless fukers like Randy Couture...

I hate that type of comment - is Conor McGregor an agressive person outside of the ring? hmmm let's read one twitter comment and make a judgment shall we? and if he is, and I'm not sayin he is I don't know the guy but if he is so what.... not everybody is the same - you know the standard we should all adhere to in life yeah?

There's literally 10,000 MMA fighters in the world in more than 500 promotions with a card on somewhere every single night of the week all year round..... the world has warmed to many many MMA fighters - you're a flat world thinker - what YOU know ain't fact - there's a big bad world of MMA out there and you should learn something about it before literally annoying an entire MMA forum - most of whom think you're a troll - I'm not sure - I just think you have a 'view' about MMA based on limited information so you're points are not supportable. You'll no doubt realize you're wrong in so many ways over the next few months as you learn more and watch more and try and not look for information to support a preconception if at all possible.

Here's a list of classy MMA fighters in and out of the ring. Learn about them.

GSP
Mark Munoz
Machida
Henderson
Stann
Nogueira
Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Shane Carwin

not all MMA fighters are as 'book-smart' or as 'classy-in-a-suit' and clean-lookin as these lads, but go to any show and you'll see lads bleed in the cage/win/lose and hug their opponent after - and prob share a beer later. The sport is literally full of class as opposed to what seemingly closed minded people like yourself think. It couldn't operate any other way - the whole things depends of the concept of 'respect'. Most clubs have something on the wall which reads 'leave your attitude at the door' - aggressive knackers as you're doing your best to characterize average MMA fighters get thrown out of clubs before they learn their first armbar.
Aggression is, of course, deeply part of MMA and should be and some people don't like it because fighters are necessarily aggressive in their fights - it's a violent sport and people can and do get hurt, but not usually to the degree of Rugby OR Boxing in a given year. MMA fighters come from every facet of life - just in that list you've got a high school Math teacher, Marine and mechanical engineer.

lose the preconceptions, accept you're almost MMA-Ignorant and start fresh man.

GSPfan · 09-04-2013 1:16am

Be like Nutella wrote: »

yeah sure
who likes classless fukers like Randy Couture...

I hate that type of comment - is Conor McGregor an agressive person outside of the ring? hmmm let's read one twitter comment and make a judgment shall we? and if he is, and I'm not sayin he is I don't know the guy but if he is so what.... not everybody is the same - you know the standard we should all adhere to in life yeah?

There's literally 10,000 MMA fighters in the world in more than 500 promotions with a card on somewhere every single night of the week all year round..... the world has warmed to many many MMA fighters - you're a flat world thinker - what YOU know ain't fact - there's a big bad world of MMA out there and you should learn something about it before literally annoying an entire MMA forum - most of whom think you're a troll - I'm not sure - I just think you have a 'view' about MMA based on limited information so you're points are not supportable. You'll no doubt realize you're wrong in so many ways over the next few months as you learn more and watch more and try and not look for information to support a preconception if at all possible.

Here's a list of classy MMA fighters in and out of the ring. Learn about them.

GSP
Mark Munoz
Machida
Henderson
Stann
Nogueira
Dos Santos
Rich Franklin
Shane Carwin

not all MMA fighters are as 'book-smart' or as 'classy-in-a-suit' and clean-lookin as these lads, but go to any show and you'll see lads bleed in the cage/win/lose and hug their opponent after - and prob share a beer later. The sport is literally full of class as opposed to what seemingly closed minded people like yourself think. It couldn't operate any other way - the whole things depends of the concept of 'respect'. Most clubs have something on the wall which reads 'leave your attitude at the door' - aggressive knackers as you're doing your best to characterize average MMA fighters get thrown out of clubs before they learn their first armbar.
Aggression is, of course, deeply part of MMA and should be and some people don't like it because fighters are necessarily aggressive in their fights - it's a violent sport and people can and do get hurt, but not usually to the degree of Rugby OR Boxing in a given year. MMA fighters come from every facet of life - just in that list you've got a high school Math teacher, Marine and mechanical engineer.

lose the preconceptions, accept you're almost MMA-Ignorant and start fresh man.

You wasted your time writing that for him. He doesn't want education, he wants aggrevation. You gave it to him.

Be like Nutella · 09-04-2013 3:07am

ah sure ya never know, one less ignorant fuker out there is worth the risk : )

Be like Nutella · 09-04-2013 3:40am

"..but it might very well be remembered as the night Mr. McGregor stepped into the limelight. That alone is reason enough as to why the show must go on. "

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Viewpoint-Building-Blocks-51533

give it a read it's goosebump stuff.... when the biggest MMA site in the world says sh1t like that....

dodderangler · 09-04-2013 3:55am

Arawn wrote: »

But mma in Ireland has taken off.

Yep
Every idiot you talk to outside a pub or nightclub in town sassy he does UFC and MMA now :rolleyes:

cowzerp · 09-04-2013 7:58am

Lads I'm dissapointed to say the least, If he is Trolling you's have give him a great result on here, I've had to give out several warnings to posters that I don't want to warn but am left with no choice, it's just silly

1. If someone is trolling report them and state what number post you see as trolling

2. Don't comment that its trolling as then you're considered to be backseat modding

3. Don't comment to him at all and he has failed in his attempts of making all you lads look foolish

4. Ignorance is not necessarily Trolling so don't just report comments that may just be a clueless poster

5. I've spent 20 mins dealing with definite rule breaches rather than checking if he is a troll, now I'm busy getting kids ready for crèche so that will have to wait.

T-K-O · 09-04-2013 8:34am

Not sure if this was posted...

http://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport/2013/0408/380384-mcgregor-i-was-looking-to-dominate-on-ufc-debut/

Great to read mma news on RTE!

billy2012 · 09-04-2013 9:32am

In fairness Joe heart makes a few fair points.
And yes....Id imagine an All Black rugby player would take most mma lads down within 2/3 attempts.
People are talking about Gsp and Jon JOnes take down defence...These guys are the very best out there, not the norm. Do you think Chael wil get jones down? Hell Yes he will. MOst wrestlers will take down a striker at some point if they want.

Sorry to go of topic but Joe was getting a hard time and making a few fair points, Maybe he went the wrong way about it.

CONOR FTW!!!

09-04-2013 9:35am

billy2012 wrote: »

In fairness Joe heart makes a few fair points.
And yes....Id imagine an All Black rugby player would take most mma lads down within 2/3 attempts.

:pac:

RoboRat · 09-04-2013 9:51am

Id imagine an All Black rugby player would take most mma lads down within 2/3 attempts.

On the pitch... yes. In the octogon when they would get a knee in the face for trying and have to keep their guard up to avoid getting KO'd by a punch or a kick... No.

pablohoney87 · 09-04-2013 10:01am

You know someone has done neither rugby or wrasslin when they believe tackling and a takedown are the same thing :rolleyes:

billy2012 · 09-04-2013 10:01am

RoboRat wrote: »

On the pitch... yes. In the octogon when they would get a knee in the face for trying and have to keep their guard up to avoid getting KO'd by a punch or a kick... No.

How many times did Silva do this to Chael Sonnen?

The best striker ever. Well capable of landing a knee or punch?? It's easier said than done. High level wrestlers are a nightmare to deal with.

We can agree to this agree.

Again, well done connor!!

RainMaker · 09-04-2013 10:03am

billy2012 wrote: »

In fairness Joe heart makes a few fair points.
And yes....Id imagine an All Black rugby player would take most mma lads down within 2/3 attempts.
People are talking about Gsp and Jon JOnes take down defence...These guys are the very best out there, not the norm. Do you think Chael wil get jones down? Hell Yes he will. MOst wrestlers will take down a striker at some point if they want.

Sorry to go of topic but Joe was getting a hard time and making a few fair points, Maybe he went the wrong way about it.

CONOR FTW!!!

So you tell us not to use GSP/JBJ as examples as they are elite level competitors, then you give the example of an All Black (elite level) rugby player against an average MMA competitor?

I think you are overestimating the rugby player in this case anyway - most of their take downs are on people who are running away or directly towards them - it's a combination of momentum and the collision that gets the take down - against somebody standing there ready to defend a take down attempt that might prove a bit more difficult.

What you find with the all the good take down artists is that they use feints, punch/kick combos and level changes to set up take downs - they don't just run straight at you which is all I can imagine a rugby player doing...

Ush1 · 09-04-2013 10:04am

billy2012 wrote: »

In fairness Joe heart makes a few fair points.
And yes....Id imagine an All Black rugby player would take most mma lads down within 2/3 attempts.
People are talking about Gsp and Jon JOnes take down defence...These guys are the very best out there, not the norm. Do you think Chael wil get jones down? Hell Yes he will. MOst wrestlers will take down a striker at some point if they want.

Sorry to go of topic but Joe was getting a hard time and making a few fair points, Maybe he went the wrong way about it.

CONOR FTW!!!

These rugby players would fight at heavyweight yes, where any strike landed can usually end a fight instantly?

I don't think Chael will get Jon Jones down, I think that fight is going to be a massacre and not in Chaels favour.

Mr. Manager · 09-04-2013 10:05am

I actually can't believe people are trying to put logic between the 2 and having a serious discussion about it...

UncleChael · 09-04-2013 10:06am

Ush1 wrote: »

I don't think Chael will get Jon Jones down, I think that fight is going to be a massacre and not in Chaels favour.

When have you ever seen Chael get massacred before to make you think that will happen?

pablohoney87 · 09-04-2013 10:06am

Its actually akin to Joe Rogans ridiculous comments that soccer players will have the best leg kicks

billy2012 · 09-04-2013 10:09am

RainMaker wrote: »

So you tell us not to use GSP/JBJ as examples as they are elite level competitors, then you give the example of an All Black (elite level) rugby player against an average MMA competitor?

I think you are overestimating the rugby player in this case anyway - most of their take downs are on people who are running away or directly towards them - it's a combination of momentum and the collision that gets the take down - against somebody standing there ready to defend a take down attempt that might prove a bit more difficult.

What you find with the all the good take down artists is that they use feints, punch/kick combos and level changes to set up take downs - they don't just run straight at you which is all I can imagine a rugby player doing...

Woah.....I never brought up the All Blacks. I just agreed with someone else that I believe they would have the capabilites to take a MMA guy to the ground., given a few attempts. That is all.

In regards to Jones and Gsp, Aldo, Dos Santos, people talk about there defence because its rare to stop a high level wrestler taking you down.

Im sorry for posting. Peace.

Conor McGregor

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