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Siemens SPC 4320

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    Also, another question here, with thanks in advance.
    Is there a "smart" way of connecting the expanders so that I will not exceed the power supply running parameters !?
    I was planning to use the central panel to power the WiFi and keypad while the expander with its own PSU to power the two extra expanders.
    The panel will power some of the sensors while the Expander PSU the two expander and the 8 PIRs.
    Thanks !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    OK don't take this the wrong way but what you are asking is quite possible on that panel. Maybe an experienced valuation of what you want the panel to do is required.
    Even a call out to point you in the right direction might be all that you need.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Punish3r


    Hi, I spoke with a very knowledgeable gentleman at Vanderbilt when I wanted more information he was more then happy to have a chat about the system and other their other offerings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Has anyone got a hikvision camera working with the 4320? I can get a JPEG into a browser, but it wants a user name/password embedded in the URL before the IP address and the 4320 doesn't seem to allow that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭bittihuduga


    does spc4320 require ethernet cable for ip communication? or does it have a wifi option too to connect to internal house network?
    the upc modem is in the living room and not sure if i can run ethernet cable from modem to spc panel.
    other option is powerline adapter...


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    We use power line adapters most of the time. There are also some ethernet to WiFi units you could also use.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    I am having an issue a few times a month whereby my panel shows SPC Offline and I am not able to access the mobile app for setting etc. These outages seem to last for a few hours at a time. Most recently yesterday 16:00 to 19:00.
    Is this a problem with the SPC servers, or with my own system?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I have not seen server's down like that.
    Probably something local.
    What panel firmware version are you on?
    What service provider are you using and what are the DNS server settings on the panel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    freddy99 wrote: »
    I am having an issue a few times a month whereby my panel shows SPC Offline and I am not able to access the mobile app for setting etc. These outages seem to last for a few hours at a time. Most recently yesterday 16:00 to 19:00.
    Is this a problem with the SPC servers, or with my own system?

    Not a monthly thing but my own system was off-line yesterday at that time too. Vanderbilt would generally be very reliable and not be off line much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    Mine was offline yesterday too and the password also always wipes

    Happens more often than I'd like to be honest


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  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Service provider is Vodafone. I tried to access configure details remotely via portal, but got Access Denied message. I thought that I could acces that remotely. I will check DNS and firmware info when I get home.
    Thanks for reply.
    Regards, F


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Mine was offline yesterday too and the password also always wipes

    Happens more often than I'd like to be honest

    Which password gets wiped? Havn't come across this. There was a server restart yesterday. But they were all ATS Down /ATS up in the space of a couple of minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Which password gets wiped? Havn't come across this. There was a server restart yesterday. But they were all ATS Down /ATS up in the space of a couple of minutes.

    The android app password gets wiped (even if remember password is ticked)

    I actually thought it was app updates causing it to reset but not the case


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    The android app password gets wiped (even if remember password is ticked)

    Uninstall and reinstall it and should be ok.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Thats probably a good idea. It certainly should not be anything to do with the connection being up or down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Another free recommendation issue I note KoolKid.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    kub wrote: »
    Another free recommendation issue I note KoolKid.
    Yes. But this users problems may be to do with his local connections as SPC connect wasn't down for the lengths/times in question.
    As opposed to this paid for service that appears not to work for many users here..
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057751064


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Yes you keep telling yourself, that big bad awful company control the countries telephone networks now as well.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Not about the control. But I agree with some of the other posters. If there is a problem with a service you are being charged for, which appears to be permanent, you should be notified and payments stopped and refunded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    The same way that ARC's should have done likewise for clients who never knew there was an issue with their digis or phone lines in times past is it?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Well I'm pretty sure if you had a customer paying you for monitoring and there was an issue with missing test signals you would contact them, yes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    I am not licensed to provide a monitoring service so I would not know the answer to that I am afraid


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    But you do get notified if your customers are missing test signals. Would you not notify your customer and investigate the problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Of course I would, but I cannot speak for HKC. Perhaps there is something in the contract, again I have no idea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Hi KoolKid, my firmware is 3.7.1. I cannot find the DNS settings in the menu.
    I have checked the ATP log and the system has been down 3 times so far this months. 1st June for 7 mins, 3rd June for 3 hours and 10th June for 3 hours.
    Thanks, F


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    kub wrote: »
    Of course I would, but I cannot speak for HKC. Perhaps there is something in the contract, again I have no idea.

    Funny how you have no problem speaking for HKC when you are posting positive promotional feedback.
    You are ofcourse right you should notify your customers in the event of a issue with service.
    That's exactly what others were saying they expected of HKC in that thread.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    freddy99 wrote: »
    Hi KoolKid, my firmware is 3.7.1. I cannot find the DNS settings in the menu.
    I have checked the ATP log and the system has been down 3 times so far this months. 1st June for 7 mins, 3rd June for 3 hours and 10th June for 3 hours.
    Thanks, F

    The 3 hours definitely isn't right. If you goto communications and then into IP settings.
    If DHCP is enabled the keypad won't display t settings.
    You could check them in the browser or else change to fixed IP and try 008.008.008
    008 as the DNS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Thanks KoolKid, I have set up a static IP which is working. I have just changed DNS to 008.008.008.008 as suggested. Fingers crossed.

    Regards, F


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    No problem.
    Any bother come back to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    KoolKid wrote:
    Funny how you have no problem speaking for HKC when you are posting positive promotional feedback. You are ofcourse right you should notify your customers in the event of a issue with service. That's exactly what others were saying they expected of HKC in that thread.


    Funny how I have the ability to answer questions that other posters put to me as well, unlike how you were during our recent discussion.

    Positive promotional feedback you say, absolutely their products are perfect, I know that from first hand experience you see.
    However with regard to issues on that thread, well as I mentioned there is probably something in the contracts, that it is the customers responsibility to ensure that their lines are capable of transmitting text.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    kub wrote: »
    Funny how I have the ability to answer questions that other posters put to me as well,
    Untill you don't want to.:D
    kub wrote: »
    Of course I would, but I cannot speak for HKC. .
    You weren't asked to speak for HKC you were asked for an opinion.
    In your opinion, should a company being paid for a monitoring/notification service notify their customers if service is down & it appears to be a permanent problem?
    kub wrote: »
    Positive promotional feedback you say, absolutely their products are perfect.
    Just proved my point.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Untill you don't want to.:D

    You weren't asked to speak for HKC you were asked for an opinion.
    In your opinion, should a company being paid for a monitoring/notification service notify their customers if service is down & it appears to be a permanent problem?


    Just proved my point.:D

    I can't lie, HKC gear is the best, it ticks all the boxes ;)

    Maybe HKC are doing something about this now as it has been brought to their attention. I am not going telling them about it, they should know what to do themselves.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    kub wrote: »
    I am not licensed to provide a monitoring service so I would not know the answer to that I am afraid
    kub wrote: »
    Of course I would, but I cannot speak for HKC.
    kub wrote: »
    I can't lie, HKC gear is the best, it ticks all the boxes ;)

    Maybe HKC are doing something about this now as it has been brought to their attention.

    LOL if this was an issue with any other manufacturer you would be slating them from a height.
    You jumped into this thread ready to slag off Vanderbilt for down time on a free service , but not HKC for charging customers on a service thats not working.:confused:
    Nice to see the true colours shine through.:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    ATS & ATP down from 20:31 till 22:10 yesterday and again from 01:25 till 02:05 this morning. Is this just me ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    20.33 til 21.13 according to my system log


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    KoolKid wrote: »
    LOL if this was an issue with any other manufacturer you would be slating them from a height.
    You jumped into this thread ready to slag off Vanderbilt for down time on a free service , but not HKC for charging customers on a service thats not working.:confused:
    Nice to see the true colours shine through.:D

    I missed this post.
    Right I was not having a go at Vanderbilt, I was mentioning to you that this is just an example of what happens when you and especially you advise people to go for the free option.
    You know well also that we install Vanderbilt systems and I have no issues with their equipment at all.
    With regard to your usual hop off HKC, well they are not responsible for the telephone lines in Ireland and they are the issue here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    kub wrote:
    I missed this post. Right I was not having a go at Vanderbilt, I was mentioning to you that this is just an example of what happens when you and especially you advise people to go for the free option. You know well also that we install Vanderbilt systems and I have no issues with their equipment at all. With regard to your usual hop off HKC, well they are not responsible for the telephone lines in Ireland and they are the issue here.


    Kub.
    You had a rest last week, the fights over, it's not round two.

    Best if the Siemens HKC arguments were stopped again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭kub


    Stoner wrote: »
    Kub.
    You had a rest last week, the fights over, it's not round two.

    Best if the Siemens HKC arguments were stopped again.

    My apologies Stoner, I just felt that post needed a response. I will leave it there on the public forum and i just hope that the discussion can be followed up by all interested parties in the private forum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Spoke to Tech Support. Apparently over the past 3 months they have been enhancing and expanding the cloud servers and that has resulted in some down-time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Did virgin media push out a change to some of their modems?

    The port mappings seemed to be timming out every 60 seconds. Needed to bring the polling interval down to 30 seconds.

    Anyone else see similar?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    There have been some issues with different modems software whereby the SPC panel would not resolve the DNS and reconnect straightaway. SPC version 3-8-0 has addressed this .


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Thanks KoolKid, any chance you could tell me where to download 3.8.
    Regards, F


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Unfortunately we are no longer allowed use boards for sharing software.
    You could contact any installation company or Vanderbilt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭freddy99


    Thank you, Ill send them an email.
    Regards, F


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,977 ✭✭✭johnny_adidas


    freddy99 wrote: »
    Thank you, Ill send them an email.
    Regards, F

    Hi freddy,

    If you have any luck obtaining it, would you mind forwarding it to me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    KoolKid wrote: »
    There have been some issues with different modems software whereby the SPC panel would not resolve the DNS and reconnect straightaway. SPC version 3-8-0 has addressed this .

    Yea the TCP/IP stack seems to be a little picky. I must try and update to 3-8-0.

    I swapped from using the url to the ip address and it didn't solve the issue, so definitely wasn't DNS related.

    Until i changed the polling rate, it would show up as available on the app, but when i would try access the panel it would fail.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    So was it even your local connection that was dropping off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Local connection was always ok via the web browser.

    The first out going poll from the panel always worked fine too. I didn't get a chance to wireshark it, but seems to be using udp and expecting the NAT to keep the reverse port mapping alive. They should really be using uPNP to request the required ports to open on the NAT, but don't seem to have implemented that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭fergalom


    KoolKid wrote:
    Unfortunately we are no longer allowed use boards for sharing software. You could contact any installation company or


    Could i ask the reason behind this? Its extremely helpful and much appreciated getting these software updates. Why would there be an issue?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The powers that be feel there is/may be a copyright issue.
    Most installation company's using these systems have permission to distribute and update firmware etc.
    Contacting some of them would be your best bet.


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