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Car jacker killed in Dublin crash ***mod note first post: read before posting***

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    wazky wrote: »
    Even though he was in serious crash and I think he has lost an arm?

    Or is that not enough punishment?

    hoe he doesn't use a wind up watch:(:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    wazky wrote: »
    Even though he was in serious crash and I think he has lost an arm?

    Or is that not enough punishment?

    according to the article he was uninjured....
    it's the guy that lost the arm that died.

    If anyone's looking for him he's in Kilmainham Garda station.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0608/622342-dublin-crash/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    wexie wrote: »

    Looking at the picture that's one bad ass pole.. not even a scratch on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Chattastrophe!


    Umadbrah? wrote: »
    I love it people are glad that a young man dies just because he stole. Sure we might as well start handing out the death sentence to people who steal...

    Look I stand to be proven wrong - but I sincerely doubt this guy has done much good to society in the past, or would have ever done so in his future (if he'd been lucky enough to have one.)

    People who violently hijack taxis generally don't do so as a random once off.

    We can blame him, we can blame his upbringing, whatever. He had become the person he was, for whatever reason, and it was not a good person.

    I don't rejoice in his death, but it's hard to see it as a bad thing as it (very most likely) reduces the figures of future crimes and even, quite possibly, reduces future deaths of non-criminals.

    Would I rather he was still out there hijacking other drivers? I'll be honest, no. I'm sorry if it's a case that whatever factors in his life made him this way, but this seems to be the way he ended up. It's unfortunate.

    Rehabilitation would of course be the ideal solution. I'm not convinced that this works too often.

    I'm not happy about his death. I'm happy that his life and lifestyle won't result in even more victims. Like that taxidriver. My sympathies are mainly with him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    it would be hilarious if someone carjacked the hearse on the way to the funeral


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    obi604 wrote: »
    Hope the other good for nothing dies too. Sounds harsh but I mean it.

    He'll probably get the full extent of the law thrown at him and serve a 6 month suspended sentence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    dresden8 wrote: »

    Had that in my head all day but couldn't think of the movie it came from


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭DildoFaggins


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Some of the replies here are borderline sociopath.

    It's hard to feel any sympathy for the carjackers yes, but some of the comments are way OTT.

    At the end of the day it's still someones son, someone's brother, maybe someones father.


    Oh please just stop, ofc it's sad for the family but he is just a scumbag I hope he died a horrible death good honest people die everyday, take a look around at a hospice and you will see people suffering from awful illnesses while good for nothing brain dead vermin like those two clowns are robbing honest people.

    My condolences to the families for breeding 2 clowns,the taxi man who probably is very shaken up,the pole,the taxi,the insurance company who have to pay for all this and the unfortunate doctors or nurses who have to treat that other idiot who I hope dies a horrible death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    furiousox wrote: »
    And now he'll never harm someones son, brother or father again.

    This sums up my feelings on it. It's not that I want revenge, but I want to be sure that he does not get a chance to repeat his actions. There are very few cases of car-jackers reforming into valuable, contributing members of society and our legal system does not serve us well in that regard.

    His absence from our society, however tragic, avoids many other tragedies in the future.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    the unfortunate doctors or nurses who have to treat that other idiot who I hope dies a horrible death.

    He was not injured. He's not in hospital, he's in a cell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Good.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    He was not injured. He's not in hospital, he's in a cell

    And when the full might of our courts fall on him he will get 18 months and be out in 6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Hitler wasn't so bad, I mean he did kill Hitler.

    This guy. This guy right here. This is the guy. He knows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Montroseee


    Why do people car jack others? The chances of actually getting away with the car in this day and age, especially in cities, is just so slim. The risk benefit ratio is too high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,839 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Montroseee wrote: »
    Why do people car jack others? The chances of actually getting away with the car in this day and age, especially in cities, is just so slim. The risk benefit ratio is too high.

    The calibre of person doing the car jacking kinda answers that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭yr one


    Montroseee wrote: »
    Why do people car jack others? The chances of actually getting away with the car in this day and age, especially in cities, is just so slim. The risk benefit ratio is too high.


    Your quote highlights exactly how stupid they are, anyone will an ounce of common sense would know that.

    The other thing I was thinking of is what they were thinking of doing with the car, they could be using it for a tiger raid or robbery of some sort, people's cars are always stolen for either to be chopped, rebranded and different reg, or used to commit a more vile crime.

    They got what they deserved, whatever they were going to do with the car now won't happen, they can't cause any more harm

    I kinda felt guilty this morning for immediately thinking, oh well.. No loss there, but I'm glad I'm not on my own, it seems to be a vast majority of people consider it karma


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Pity the taxi driver, lost his car and he probably got racially abused as it happened to boot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Umadbrah? wrote: »
    Sure we might as well start handing out the death sentence to people who steal...
    "Steal" is pretty disingenuous - as if it's a shoplifting incident.


  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Tea-a-Maria


    Hitler wasn't so bad, I mean he did kill Hitler.

    Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Honestly don't see why anyone would have sympathy for either of the "victims" in this. That pole could just as easily been a family they crashed into and as such most people are just glad that it was one of the hijackers who died. Can imagine the kind of self serving drivel we will read about them in the coming days. Family and friends will claim that the deceased was a great lad, made one mistake, blah, blah, blah.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    Seriously what type of sick twisted nutter are you? He was an idiot who stole a car, not a Nazi who killed six million by which the tone of your comment sounds like something you'd delight in.
    Which Nazi was that?


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wonder what went through his mind at the moment of impact?

    His arse?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    Which Nazi was that?

    There was more than one????


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There was more than one????

    I dunno, I haven't finished watching Star Wars yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    I dunno, I haven't finished watching Star Wars yet.

    The allies get to the baddies lair and he ends up killing himself. The war ends and the hairy creatures(see: French women) throw a big party.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The allies get to the baddies lair and he ends up killing himself. The war ends and the hairy creatures(see: French women) throw a big party.

    French people having a party? I thought you said the Nazis lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,052 ✭✭✭Un Croissant


    French people having a party? I thought you said the Nazis lost.

    You can be vichyious when you want to be.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can be vichyious when you want to be.

    I'll thank tomorrow when I'm sober enough to fully appreciate it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    myshirt wrote: »
    Guys, of course I am going to get the reply that I am trolling.
    I am not.

    The comments here are sickening. I know Woopsadaisydoodles highlighted we should be cognisant of the family, and we should. But to rejoice in anyone's death... incredible.

    I have every bit of sympathy for the taxi driver here, but it is a shocking social tragedy also that this happened in the first place.

    Karma is a brutal .Every action has a reaction .Maybe not straight away like in this case but eventually things pan out .I would not like to be in the car drivers shoes .Prison will be the least of his worries .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭bette


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    Seriously what type of sick twisted nutter are you? He was an idiot who stole a car, not a Nazi who killed six million by which the tone of your comment sounds like something you'd delight in.
    Is there any truth in the rumours that he beat the crap out of the taxi driver before he stole the car?

    Then of course, sticking to the speed limit in a built up area a pole appeared and collided with the stolen car.

    His unintentionally dangerous driving killed his "mate" and he fled the scene, perhaps because he was traumatised!

    Hopefully the Gardaí took him to hospital for a medical check and that the judge will be lenient.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    The simple fact is the world is a tiny bit of a better place than it was a few days ago, i dont think anyone apart from this mans friends and family will be crying and of course I fully expect to hear the usual "ah shuwer he was a kind sowel, didnt mean no harm and wouldnt huwert a fly"


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    I would be curious to see his photo .The scum left his mate to die ,after he caused the accident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,136 ✭✭✭flanzer


    For anyone in doubt about the driver of the car (someones son, someones brother, someones father) - he fled the scene to leave his mate dying alone.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/carjacker-flees-wreckage-as-friend-lies-dying-on-street-30338953.html

    It's a pity the little scrote didn't flee into the front of a passing bus. The only people I have sympathy here for, are the emergency services who arrived to that scene, or anyone who witnessed it or the aftermath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    and so it begins defence of his character and his actions...as if its normal behaviour...and this is why the cycle doesnt get stopped...instea dof people using this as a reason to convince others not to do it...they just say he was unlucky and didnt deserve it..thereby no lesson to be learnt by anyone.

    I want to see an interview "Yeh he was a toerag, always commiting crimes for himself, didnt give a damn about his childs future, as long as he had his laugh, pity he died, but it was always going to happen"

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/alex-doyle-taxi-death-face-3663442
    Orla Louise McGuigan and Michelle Noonan were close pals of the dead father who lived on Cuffe Street, South Dublin.
    Unemployed Doyle had a young daughter Lexi, who was just two years of age, and he lived with his mother Jane.
    Ms Noonan said: “Alex was a lovely young fellow and he has a two-year-old daughter.
    “He did something wrong but he didn’t deserve to die like this.”

    Ms McGuigan added: “People do stupid things but Alex didn’t deserve to die. When you are under the influence you do stupid things.”
    Appealing to other young people Ms McGuigan said: “No matter how fun it seems at the time please think before you do anything stupid like this.
    “It might seem like fun but the consequences are huge.”


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  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    >>He (Doyle the now dead one ) had addiction issues but he was dealing with them quite successfully.<<

    Yes ,right ,W.T.F.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Montroseee wrote: »
    Why do people car jack others? The chances of actually getting away with the car in this day and age, especially in cities, is just so slim. The risk benefit ratio is too high.
    Modern cars are much harder to steal by brute force; you can break into them, but getting them started is much more difficult. Hence, take the car with the keys.
    flanzer wrote: »
    For anyone in doubt about the driver of the car (someones son, someones brother, someones father) - he fled the scene to leave his mate dying alone.
    No honour among scum.
    and so it begins defence of his character and his actions...as if its normal behaviour...and this is why the cycle doesnt get stopped...instea dof people using this as a reason to convince others not to do it...they just say he was unlucky and didnt deserve it..thereby no lesson to be learnt by anyone.
    I love this defence of character bull****, “People do stupid things but Alex didn’t deserve to die. When you are under the influence you do stupid things.”
    "Stupid things" under the influence are saying the wrong thing to your boss, falling out of your chair or sticking food in the microwave and then falling asleep. Non-scum do not rob cars because they've had a few drinks or pills. You have to be a scumbag first.

    He didn't deserve to die, but at the same time you'd have to live in another universe to say that this was a stupid drunk mistaken gotten out of hand.

    We've a two year old girl now who with any luck will grow up with stories about how great her father was and have a lovely image of him in her head rather than have to live with a half-absentee drunken mess who spends half his life in and out of prison and the other half off his face and neglecting his child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    seamus wrote: »
    We've a two year old girl now who will grow up with stories about how great her father was and have a lovely image of him in her head rather than have to live with a half-absentee drunken mess who spends half his life in and out of prison and the other half off his face and neglecting his child.

    Hitting the Nail right on the head here!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    seamus wrote: »
    We've a two year old girl now who with any luck will grow up with stories about how great her father was and have a lovely image of him in her head rather than have to live with a half-absentee drunken mess who spends half his life in and out of prison and the other half off his face and neglecting his child.

    And in 14 years when she's involved in crime and beating some girl in school up (if she's still in school and not just some gangsters moll at that stage) will we be glad if she dies as a result of crime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,291 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    and so it begins defence of his character and his actions...as if its normal behaviour...and this is why the cycle doesnt get stopped...instea dof people using this as a reason to convince others not to do it...they just say he was unlucky and didnt deserve it..thereby no lesson to be learnt by anyone.

    I want to see an interview "Yeh he was a toerag, always commiting crimes for himself, didnt give a damn about his childs future, as long as he had his laugh, pity he died, but it was always going to happen"

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/alex-doyle-taxi-death-face-3663442

    Ahh I love being proven right


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Some of the replies here are borderline sociopath.

    It's hard to feel any sympathy for the carjackers yes, but some of the comments are way OTT.

    At the end of the day it's still someones son, someone's brother, maybe someones father.

    Agree. I'm really shocked by the level of vitriol, people saying things like "I hope he died screaming" - the fuuck? That's a bit sick and weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭whomitconcerns


    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    Agree. I'm really shocked by the level of vitriol, people saying things like "I hope he died screaming" - the fuuck? That's a bit sick and weird.

    well i dont hope or wish he died either way facts are

    He committed a serious crime. and died while doing it. We are lucky no one else died as a result.

    If he hadnt died this time and cant reoffend then what about next time, what if your family member was killed by him.

    So while not happy he died, I think its a benefit to society in the long run that he did. No further cost to society in prison costs, social costs, loss of life costs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    well i dont hope or wish he died either way facts are

    He committed a serious crime. and died while doing it. We are lucky no one else died as a result.

    If he hadnt died this time and cant reoffend then what about next time, what if your family member was killed by him.

    So while not happy he died, I think its a benefit to society in the long run that he did. No further cost to society in prison costs, social costs, loss of life costs.


    I agree that it is no loss to society, and of course it could have been worse if he had hit someone else. Thankfully he did not. As someone who was almost orphaned by "boy racers" I can appreciate more than most that this guy's passing is not exactly tragedy of the year. However, I still think it is sick to hope that anyone "died screaming" or that his 5th vertebrae went through his mind before he died etc. ffs, that's just unnecessary savage vitriol. The guy is dead. Good. We dont need to be baying for gore.


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    He died in a flash .Better for him in the long run and a lot better for society,I.M.O Yes he lost his arm ,but he will not be needing it now .(Was going to put a smiley but that would be in poor taste )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭artful_codger


    Umadbrah? wrote: »
    I love it people are glad that a young man dies just because he stole. Sure we might as well start handing out the death sentence to people who steal...

    Or we could try jailing them. Many toerags out there who are on crime speees are doing so while on bail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭anto9


    Or we could try jailing them. Many toerags out there who are on crime speees are doing so while on bail.

    Not enought prisons but that could be solved with 40 inmates to a cell ,like here in Thailand .One bowl of spuds a day would keep food costs down also .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    And in 14 years when she's involved in crime and beating some girl in school up (if she's still in school and not just some gangsters moll at that stage) will we be glad if she dies as a result of crime?

    Lol

    1940's Chicago comes to Dublin.

    Maybe the child's mother will teach her to grow up and NOT commit crime like most loving parents do, Without this negative influence around her she is probably better off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    If you want a laugh, his mate is on 98fm now saying what a lovely fella he was, a devoted father that would do anything for anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Fiolina wrote: »
    If you want a laugh, his mate is on 98fm now saying what a lovely fella he was, a devoted father that would do anything for anyone.

    Am listening, You always get them on and they can't understand that people think he is scum. They don't realise that normal people do not just go out and car jack someones car and drive like a ****ing idiot through the streets of a city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,161 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    this is different then wishing we had the death penalty for crime....this is wishing somebody was killed before he kills innocent bystanders...that car was a death machine and luckily it stopped quickly and nobody else was killed


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