mark of the beast

King Mob · 15-06-2020 5:01pm

pearcider wrote: »

That’s not a fact actually. That’s just what you think. You are not all knowing.

Nope. Still a fact. Supernatural prophesies don't exist.
They are fantasy.
This is the real world.

pearcider wrote: »

My claim, that the mark of the beast technology and indeed world government is only possible quite recently in human history is a verifiable fact though.

Yes, and people claimed this with barcodes.
They've been claiming it's the end times since the bible was written.
They've all been wrong.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 5:17pm

King Mob wrote: »

Nope. Still a fact. Supernatural prophesies don't exist.
They are fantasy.
This is the real world.

Yes, and people claimed this with barcodes.
They've been claiming it's the end times since the bible was written.
They've all been wrong.

Not sure why you keep mentioning barcodes. It’s irrelevant. The Bible is not fantasy to billions of people so your small minded opinion of the supernatural is also irrelevant.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 5:25pm

pearcider wrote: »

Not sure why you keep mentioning barcodes. It’s irrelevant.

It's relevant and I keep bringing it up because people used to claim that barcodes were the mark of the beast and a sign that the end times were coming.
Your belief is exactly the same, just with different technology.

You can't seem to explain why your belief is superior or substantially different, so bringing up barcodes is an effective way to highlight the silliness of claiming things about the mark of the beast.

pearcider wrote: »

The Bible is not fantasy to billions of people

Sure. And your belief in the mark of the beast is not shared by millions. It's a fringe belief not shared by many people at all.

pearcider wrote: »

so your small minded opinion of the supernatural is also irrelevant.

But it's not my opinion, it's a fact.
There's no such thing as supernatural prophesies. Much like how there's no such thing as fairies or magic.
These are things that only exist in fantasy.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 5:34pm

King Mob wrote: »

There's no such thing as supernatural prophesies. Much like how there's no such thing as fairies or magic.

The etymology of the term 'magic' goes back to magus or the magi - people who could predict astronomical events thereby they had status in society -

https://www.etymonline.com/word/magi

Take a step back and look at the issue from a 21st century perspective so nobody has their nose put out of joint and without condescension.

I can make a future prediction in the old sense of the word within context of observations-interpretations-predictions. The late 17th century theorists attempted to change it to observations-experiments-predictions which is why astronomy and many terrestrial sciences are presently a train wreck or an exercise in voodoo chanting .

Make the upcoming prediction out of interpretation -

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

King Mob · 15-06-2020 5:36pm

oriel36 wrote: »

The etymology of the term 'magic' goes back to magus or the magi - people who could predict astronomical events thereby they had status in society -

https://www.etymonline.com/word/magi

waffle waffle waffle....

But magic isn't real guys.

Not sure why this needs to be explained to adults...

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 5:43pm

King Mob wrote: »

But magic isn't real guys.

Not sure why this needs to be explained to adults...

Anyone who can make a prediction out of interpretation of observations will look like magicians/ prophets as in the old sense of the word.

Don't tell me you are afraid of a graphic of the solar system and present time lapse taken from a satellite tracking with the Earth's orbital motion ?.

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

Scroll the dates forward and you will see Mercury about to overtake the slower moving Earth with the central/stationary Sun orchestrating our orbital motions.

It is all new so take your time, after all, many here have been poisoned by the observations-experiments-predictions dummies since the late 17th century.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 5:53pm

oriel36 wrote: »

Anyone who can make a prediction out of interpretation of observations will look like magicians/ prophets as in the old sense of the word.

Uh huh?

Magic isn't real though.

Supernatural prophesies aren't real.

There's no such thing as the mark of the beast.

Fairies don't live in the forest.

There is no Santa Claus.

Again, these are things we learn as adults.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 5:59pm

King Mob wrote: »

Uh huh?

Magic isn't real though.

That is why you are fine as you are caught up in words without knowing the meaning such as prophesy, predictions, magicians/magus and so on.

The notion of supernatural is recent and serves those who lack inspiration/spirituality therefore you fall for a trap that people with wider perspectives rarely do.

Inspiration is real and a human entitlement for those willing to set aside the indoctrination which attempted to remove observations-interpretation-predictions as a balanced human view.

I am done here.

one world order · 15-06-2020 5:59pm

We exist in this world in the physical body flesh and spiritual soul. So yes the supernatural is very real.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 6:04pm

oriel36 wrote: »

That is why you are fine as you are caught up in words without knowing the meaning such as prophesy, predictions, magicians/magus and so on.

The notion of supernatural is recent and serves those who lack inspiration/spirituality therefore you fall for a trap that people with wider perspectives rarely do.

Inspiration is real and a human entitlement for those willing to set aside the indoctrination which attempted to remove observations-interpretation-predictions as a balanced human view.

I am done here.

Lol, yes. You've proven whatever point you were waffling about. Good job.

You guys are kinda killing any credibility this topic might have had.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 6:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

Lol, yes. You've proven whatever point you were waffling about. Good job.

You guys are kinda killing any credibility this topic might have had.

A mediocre life is the worst kind of life and part of it is chosen and part you inherited from your schooldays where the icons told you experiments-predictions displace the more balanced observation-interpretations-predictions for a creative/productive life.

You should try your hand at interpreting the time lapse footage of the Earth moving around the Sun where the stars change position from left to right of the central Sun due to the orbital motion of the Earth -

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

Within a few weeks, the planet Mercury will be seen moving between the stationary Sun and slower moving Earth and that is a prediction you won't hear anywhere else.

That is what it means to be a true prophet, magician or astronomer.

one world order · 15-06-2020 6:13pm

Also will point out the best magicians in history had what you would call in the industry as black magic i.e. a demon spirit giving them power to perform tricks that are not humanly possible to anyone else. But in return that demon owns the magicians soul when they die.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 6:14pm

oriel36 wrote: »

A mediocre life is the worst kind of life and part of it is chosen

waffle waffle waffle.

I'm sure believing what you believe makes you feel very special.
Even if it isn't true.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 6:15pm

one world order wrote: »

Also will point out the best magicians in history had what you would call in the industry as black magic i.e. a demon spirit giving them power to perform tricks that are not humanly possible to anyone else. But in return that demon owns the magicians soul when they die.

Lol

This is just getting better and better.

Which tricks pray tell?

Like this?:

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 6:21pm

King Mob wrote: »

I'm sure believing what you believe makes you feel very special.
Even if it isn't true.

I'm outta here, mediocrity is always an unpleasant experience.

Ipso · 15-06-2020 6:23pm

oriel36 wrote: »

A mediocre life is the worst kind of life and part of it is chosen and part you inherited from your schooldays where the icons told you experiments-predictions displace the more balanced observation-interpretations-predictions for a creative/productive life.

You should try your hand at interpreting the time lapse footage of the Earth moving around the Sun where the stars change position from left to right of the central Sun due to the orbital motion of the Earth -

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

Within a few weeks, the planet Mercury will be seen moving between the stationary Sun and slower moving Earth and that is a prediction you won't hear anywhere else.

That is what it means to be a true prophet, magician or astronomer.

With the what now?

King Mob · 15-06-2020 6:25pm

oriel36 wrote: »

I'm outta here, mediocrity is always an unpleasant experience.

Oh no. A person who believes magic is real thinks I'm mediocre.

How shall I survive this...?

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 6:39pm

oriel36 wrote: »

A mediocre life is the worst kind of life and part of it is chosen and part you inherited from your schooldays where the icons told you experiments-predictions displace the more balanced observation-interpretations-predictions for a creative/productive life.

You should try your hand at interpreting the time lapse footage of the Earth moving around the Sun where the stars change position from left to right of the central Sun due to the orbital motion of the Earth -

https://sol24.net/data/html/SOHO/C3/96H/VIDEO/

https://www.theplanetstoday.com/

Within a few weeks, the planet Mercury will be seen moving between the stationary Sun and slower moving Earth and that is a prediction you won't hear anywhere else.

That is what it means to be a true prophet, magician or astronomer.

Astronomy is nothing to do with "magic" or "prophecy".

In relation to this subject, some people believe the "mark of the beast" passage is a prophecy or a warning from the bible about modern technology

It's a line in a book written by someone, it doesn't refer to anything 2k years in the future, because obviously we all lack the supernatural ability to "see" into the future.

one world order · 15-06-2020 6:45pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Astronomy is nothing to do with "magic" or "prophecy".

In relation to this subject, some people believes the "mark of the beast" passage is a prophecy or a warning from the bible about modern technology

It's obviously just a line in a book written by someone, it doesn't refer to anything 2k years in the future, because we all lack the supernatural ability to "see" into the future.

Unless the holy spirit gives someone a glimpse of the future like in the book of revelation.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 6:49pm

one world order wrote: »

Unless the holy spirit gives someone a glimpse of the future like in the book of revelation.

There have been several thousand deities, spirits, gods, whatever. Human beings have a tendency to fabricate them in order to address complex questions and issues

If people want to believe in these things, that's fine, but believing in something doesn't mean it exists. If it did, then Santa Claus would exist.

Keeping that in mind, claiming X spirit did Y is meaningless in any logical sense if it can't be supported or demonstrated properly

one world order · 15-06-2020 6:51pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

There have been several thousand deities, spirits, gods, whatever. Human beings have a tendency to fabricate them in order to address complex questions and issues

If people want to believe in these things, that's fine, but believing in something doesn't mean it exists. If it did, then Santa Claus would exist.

Keeping that in mind, claiming X spirit did Y is meaningless in any logical sense if it can't be supported or demonstrated properly

Big difference between Santa Claus and Jesus Christ. Even in today's world people still have the power to cast out demons in his name.

King Mob · 15-06-2020 6:55pm

one world order wrote: »

Big difference between Santa Claus and Jesus Christ. Even in today's world people still have the power to cast out demons in his name.

These being the demons who inhabit magicians to allow them to pull rabbits out of hats etc etc. ?

Demons don't exist either I'm afraid.

15-06-2020 7:01pm

pearcider wrote: »

Unsurprisingly they moved it as the mods in here are just a part of the same big tech nexus that dominates discussion on the internet such as twitter and YouTube. They will routinely delete demonetise and shadow ban conservative and Christian views and promote left wing orthodoxy, atheistic and techno cratic world views and other new age religions and cults.

It's neither a conservative or Christian viewpoint that pushes this mark of the beast stuff. It's conspiracy theories. Eg basically every US president for the twenty years has been assumed to be the antichrist.

one world order wrote: »

Big difference between Santa Claus and Jesus Christ. Even in today's world people still have the power to cast out demons in his name.

As in exorcisms? That's psychological abuse that has resulted in the death of plenty of people. Schizophrenia, bipolar etc and other explicable conditions have been treated as possession by exorcists. So no, it has not been used to cast out any demon.

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 7:08pm

one world order wrote: »

Big difference between Santa Claus and Jesus Christ.

True, Jesus Christ actually existed. But keep in mind he was a normal person, he didn't have X-Men like powers, that's all a figment of someone's imagination, like demons, and the "holy spirit", and Santa Claus

If someone is referring to a passage in the bible, like the "mark of the beast" one, it refers to whomever came up with that line at the moment, or however many translations of it there have been. At no point did it ever refer to future technology that no one knew about.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 7:27pm

King Mob wrote: »

It's relevant and I keep bringing it up because people used to claim that barcodes were the mark of the beast and a sign that the end times were coming.
Your belief is exactly the same, just with different technology.

You can't seem to explain why your belief is superior or substantially different, so bringing up barcodes is an effective way to highlight the silliness of claiming things about the mark of the beast.

Sure. And your belief in the mark of the beast is not shared by millions. It's a fringe belief not shared by many people at all.

But it's not my opinion, it's a fact.
There's no such thing as supernatural prophesies. Much like how there's no such thing as fairies or magic.
These are things that only exist in fantasy.

It’s just your opinion actually. You have no idea if life is in fact a battle between good and evil or is just a meaningless cosmic coincidence. You have no idea why you are here, why life exists or if there is a God. You are ignorant of many things so you can in no way dismiss the Bible or the people that believe.

Furthermore to my point and which you continue to ignore, the prophecy in the book of revelation regarding the mark of the beast could in no way have existed until the last ten years. Now human societies can implement the mark quite easily whereas in the preceding 1900 years we could not.

Further prophecies that indicate we are at the end of the age include the reformation of Israel in 1948 (Third Temple) and the existence of television (Revelation 11.9).

one world order · 15-06-2020 7:29pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

True, Jesus Christ actually existed. But keep in mind he was a normal person, he didn't have X-Men like powers, that's all a figment of someone's imagination, like demons, and the "holy spirit", and Santa Claus

If someone is referring to a passage in the bible, like the "mark of the beast" one, it refers to whomever came up with that line at the moment, or however many translations of it there have been. At no point did it ever refer to future technology that no one knew about.

He had the ability to cure the sick, feed thousands, casted out demons and defied death through the resurrection, thereby showing there is life after death.

oriel36 · 15-06-2020 7:31pm

Mediocrity is reactions, slogans, stock phrases and generally the inability to be considerate whether Christian or non-Christian.

So the Book of Revelation maintains it's silence in those who are sullen and that is the way it always will be.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 7:31pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's neither a conservative or Christian viewpoint that pushes this mark of the beast stuff. It's conspiracy theories. Eg basically every US president for the twenty years has been assumed to be the antichrist.

As in exorcisms? That's psychological abuse that has resulted in the death of plenty of people. Schizophrenia, bipolar etc and other explicable conditions have been treated as possession by exorcists. So no, it has not been used to cast out any demon.

The Book of Revelation is canon. If you are a Christian then you believe that Jesus will come to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. Furthermore you believe in Satan and that his empire upon a Earth will be destroyed. Jesus said you will know neither the day nor the hour but you will know the season. Witnessing the great falling away from the Faith in the past generation is clear evidence amongst many other signs that we approach the end of the age.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 7:51pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

True, Jesus Christ actually existed. But keep in mind he was a normal person, he didn't have X-Men like powers, that's all a figment of someone's imagination, like demons, and the "holy spirit", and Santa Claus

If someone is referring to a passage in the bible, like the "mark of the beast" one, it refers to whomever came up with that line at the moment, or however many translations of it there have been. At no point did it ever refer to future technology that no one knew about.

It states quite clearly in the Bible he had supernatural powers and thousands followed him around to be healed. I would respect you more if you didn’t believe in his existence at all. At least then you would be consistent that the gospels are lies or Roman propaganda.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 7:55pm

oriel36 wrote: »

Mediocrity is reactions, slogans, stock phrases and generally the inability to be considerate whether Christian or non-Christian.

So the Book of Revelation maintains it's silence in those who are sullen and that is the way it always will be.

The funny thing is the entire western world and it’s philosophy is built on The foundation of Christianity but these scoffers deny what is in their face and indeed in their mind. It is Christianity that has led to the development of the human race and science itself. These atheists wouldn't believe how cruel and heartless the world was before Jesus and the followers of Christ like Paul began to slowly change it. The Renaissance and the scientific revolution began in countries that were devoutly Christian not in pagan China or in the Ottoman Empire. But these atheists would cut off their own nose to spite their face.

15-06-2020 7:58pm

pearcider wrote: »

The Book of Revelation is canon. If you are a Christian then you believe that Jesus will come to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. Furthermore you believe in Satan and that his empire upon a Earth will be destroyed. Jesus said you will know neither the day nor the hour but you will know the season. Witnessing the great falling away from the Faith in the past generation is clear evidence amongst many other signs that we approach the end of the age.

You should be able to reference the Pope stating that the end days are coming and that Bill Gates is giving out the mark of the beast. Or any other major Christian faith stating as such...

pearcider · 15-06-2020 8:03pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You should be able to reference the Pope stating that the end days are coming and that Bill Gates is giving out the mark of the beast. Or any other major Christian faith stating as such...

I follow Jesus as recorded in the Bible not necessarily the Pope. The church was corrupted long ago. Read up on the vision of Pope Leo 13th.

15-06-2020 8:07pm

pearcider wrote: »

I follow Jesus as recorded in the Bible not necessarily the Pope. The church was corrupted long ago. Read up on the vision of Pope Leo 13th.

Okay, so what you're saying is your view is a fringe view for Christians..... And can legitimately be viewed as a conspiracy theory and the majority of Christians would even view it as such.

one world order · 15-06-2020 8:12pm

pearcider wrote: »

The funny thing is the entire western world and it’s philosophy is built on The foundation of Christianity but these scoffers deny what is in their face and indeed in their mind. It is Christianity that has led to the development of the human race and science itself. These atheists wouldn't believe how cruel and heartless the world was before Jesus and the followers of Christ like Paul began to slowly change it. The Renaissance and the scientific revolution began in countries that were devoutly Christian not in pagan China or in the Ottoman Empire. But these atheists would cut off their own nose to spite their face.

A lot of it is to do with deception as well. The few that control this world at the very top pledge their allegiance to lucifer and by having control over the financial system, global media, film and music industries, are all very powerful weapons to lead people astray.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 8:13pm

Many of the angst angry athiests (perhaps even Islamic folk) on this forum 24/7, don't even accept the weighty math probability than humans aren't alone in the universe.

They comformt themselves in spitting bitter vitriol, while looking forward to their impending eternal nothingness (explains their state of mind). Loverrly bunch of lads.

15-06-2020 8:15pm

one world order wrote: »

A lot of it is to do with deception as well. The few that control this world at the very top pledge their allegiance to lucifer and by having control over the financial system, global media, film and music industries, are all very powerful weapons to lead people astray.

What's to differentiate your view to that of the propaganda against Jews that the Nazis used?

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-06-2020 8:18pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

Many of the angst angry athiests (perhaps even Islamic folk) on this forum 24/7, don't even accept the weighty math probability than humans aren't alone in the universe.

They comformt themselves in spitting bitter vitriol, while looking forward to their impending eternal nothingness (explains their state of mind). Loverrly bunch of lads.

I believe we are not alone, do you have evidence that "Many of the angst angry athiests (perhaps even Islamic folk) on this forum" dont believe we are alone in the universe?

one world order · 15-06-2020 8:19pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's to differentiate your view to that of the propaganda against Jews that the Nazis used?

Those providing financial support to the Nazis back then were financially supporting both sides. If you follow the money trail to the bank of international settlements and above them, then this gives an indication who has the real power.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 8:36pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I believe we are not alone, do you have evidence that "Many of the angst angry athiests (perhaps even Islamic folk) on this forum" dont believe we are alone in the universe?

You may be the rare exception. Perhaps your defence of all things Islamic could be a factor at play here? i.e. your're not a genuine athiest, or still have one foot somewhere else.

Afterall, any other lifeform would be deemed a sky'god' by defualt. inc. coming down from the sky, clouds, if it were to have any subtle influence and contact here since the origins of time.

The only counter argument to the likelyhood of other life is that of logistics.
But 'gods' they certianly would be.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-06-2020 8:41pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

You may be the rare exception. Perhaps your defence of all things Islamic could be a factor at play here? i.e. your're not a genuine athiest, or still have one foot somewhere else.

Wow you're really out doing yourself this evening, I will also require evidence for this ridiculous claim.also.

Afterall, any other lifeform would be deemed a sky'god' by defualt. inc. coming down from the sky, clouds, if it were to have any subtle influence and contact here since the origins of time.

The only counter argument to the likelyhood of other life is that of logistics.
But 'gods' they certianly would be.

Nope, sorry, I wouldn't see them as "gods" I would see them as visitors from another planet, maybe even another universe or realm of time/space.

the purple tin · 15-06-2020 8:44pm

one world order wrote: »

Those providing financial support to the Nazis back then were financially supporting both sides. If you follow the money trail to the bank of international settlements and above them, then this gives an indication who has the real power.

Wall Street and City of London.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 8:52pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Okay, so what you're saying is your view is a fringe view for Christians..... And can legitimately be viewed as a conspiracy theory and the majority of Christians would even view it as such.

What I’m saying is I read the Bible. If that’s a fringe view for the Christians in your world then I’m not sure how much further we can go in this debate.

pearcider · 15-06-2020 8:57pm

the purple tin wrote: »

Wall Street and City of London.

Essentially reading for anyone who wants to understand the world is The Creature of Jekyll Island. The mainstream would call this conspiracy theory and yet the worlds markets continue to hang on the FOMC meetings every quarter and the central banks continue to follow the policy of centralising government and big business and destroying the small business and individual saver. With dire consequences for liberty throughout the world. By their fruit you will know them.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 9:02pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Wow you're really out doing yourself this evening, I will also require evidence for this ridiculous claim.also.

A strong suspision or question, is not a claim lad, and not one that any evidence has to be provided for, calm down eh?

Saying this, you are usually the 1st to downplay aspects of FGM, Islamic animal sacrifice (without stunning first), and downplay also when someone in Europe goes on a bladed instrument event, while shouting out AA.

Furthermore you've stated before you work with lots of Muslim people over in Eng. Perhaps chummy, and sympothetic to their viewpoint or cause, perhaps?

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Nope, sorry, I wouldn't see them as "gods" I would see them as visitors from another planet, maybe even another universe or realm of time/space.

Visitors that would have to arrive using god-like technology, thus be multiple generations ahead of us, but still....not godlike, ok.

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-06-2020 9:08pm

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

A strong suspision or question, is not a claim lad, and not one that any evidence has to be provided for, calm down eh?

It wasn't a suspicion or a question it was a statement.

Saying this, you are usually the 1st to downplay aspects of FGM, Islamic animal sacrifice (without stunning first), and downplay also when someone in Europe goes on a bladed instrument event, while shouting out AA.

Evidence for this false claim.also please.

Furthermore you've stated before you work with lots of Muslim people over in Eng. Perhaps chummy, and sympothetic to their viewpoint or cause, perhaps?

First truthful thing you gave said so far. Unfortunately for you the second bolded part is wrong, and you were doing so well :rolleyes:

Visitors that would have to arrive using god-like technology, thus be multiple generations ahead of us, but still....not godlike, ok.

200 years ago the Wright brothers would have seemed like gods, if you told me 30 years ago I would be typical g on a screen talking to people all.over the world I would have laughed at you. Space flight equals "godlike technology " to you?

pearcider · 15-06-2020 9:18pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I believe we are not alone, do you have evidence that "Many of the angst angry athiests (perhaps even Islamic folk) on this forum" dont believe we are alone in the universe?

I think the natural view of the atheist would be that we are alone and that human existence is just a random mistake of particle physics. To suggest that the random and meaningless universe is somehow pregnant with life and that life was always bound to arise in the cold and lifeless universe would lead you naturally towards God. For that would require a natural law built into the universe to lead to life and furthermore intelligent life.

Ipso · 15-06-2020 9:20pm

pearcider wrote: »

I think the natural view of the atheist would be that we are alone and that human existence is just a random mistake. To suggest that the random and meaningless universe is somehow pregnant with life and that life was always bound to arise in the cold and lifeless universe would lead you naturally towards God.

So instead God seeded Earth on one part of the planet about six thousand years?

Timberrrrrrrr · 15-06-2020 9:27pm

pearcider wrote: »

I think the natural view of the atheist would be that we are alone and that human existence is just a random mistake of particle physics. To suggest that the random and meaningless universe is somehow pregnant with life and that life was always bound to arise in the cold and lifeless universe would lead you naturally towards God. For that would require a natural law built into the universe to lead to life and furthermore intelligent life.

There are Billions of stars in the universe, Its usually Christian's who believe we are alone ("god created us alone") it would be ridiculous to believe that there isn't other life out there, wether that life is more or less intelligent than us is yet to be proven but it's out there.

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-06-2020 9:32pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

First truthful thing you gave said so far. Unfortunately for you the second bolded part is wrong, and you were doing so well

So not symphatic to their cause? Stange have a read through your posts, or consider you posts, next time there is a 'cultural incident' event. Maybe you're just super hard left?

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

200 years ago the Wright brothers would have seemed like gods

This is laughable, couple of lads in flatcaps and googles in a field... gods :pac:

Dohnjoe · 15-06-2020 9:41pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

it would be ridiculous to believe that there isn't other life out there, wether that life is more or less intelligent than us is yet to be proven but it's out there.

Reading these threads I would imagine it's more intelligent

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