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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #6332
    bayern
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    irelandrover wrote: »
    Between Munster and Connacht, who is more likely to win a trophy next?

    i'd say both have similar chances..


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    #6333
    aloooof
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    bayern wrote: »
    how many players above 30 have won a trophy?

    Give it a few weeks ;)


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    #6334
    bayern
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    aloooof wrote: »
    Give it a few weeks ;)

    we've heard that one before. :)


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    #6335
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    bayern wrote: »
    we've heard that one before. :)

    It's the hope that kills ya.


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    #6336
    The Inbetween is mine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    bayern wrote: »
    how many players above 30 have won a trophy?

    Aw ref...that was definitely a low blow!


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    #6337
    yerrahbah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    The A game is on Youtube tomorrow at 12

    https://twitter.com/connachtrugby/status/1367794165229223936


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    #6338
    phog
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    So we learn who we'll be playing in the H/Cup on Tuesday next.


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    #6339
    Tomtom364
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    Looking at the contracts announced yesterday again.

    Jake Flannery skipping Year 3 of the academy to join the senior squad + Healy's promotion and lets assume JJ extends for 1 year. That would mean Munster have 4 Senior Out halves + 1 promising academy talent on the books with realistically only 1 of those looking at Ireland call Ups next season. I know Healy and Flannery, particularly Flannery would be relative novices at senior 10 but it looks a bit bloated.

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see JJ not extend if he could get a 2 Year contract elsewhere and I think the Flannery move could be partly a mitigation of the chance of that happening.


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    #6340
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    realhorrorshow wrote: »
    How many Munster players under the age of 30 have won a club trophy? Apart from the Leinster exiles of course.

    This year is our year!! The same for the Blues in Super Rugby.

    Hey last year that phrase (thankfully) finally came true for Liverpool. Hopefully it won't take 30 years for Munster or the Blues.


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    #6341
    irelandrover
    Registered Users Posts: 3,696 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    bayern wrote: »
    i'd say both have similar chances..

    That is only true if you give Munster a 0% chance in the Pro14 final against Leinster/Ulster.

    And i don't think you'd give any team a 0% chance in a one off match.


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    #6342
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    I'd actually have Munster as favourites as it stands. Leinster are favourites to top Conference A. Munster basically have topped Conferemce B. With the final a week after Super Saturday it will be a final played without the internationals. Given how badly hit Leinster have been by the 6Ns plus all the injuries we have now too, Munster have to be favourites to win any final between the 2 sides?


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    #6343
    Podge_irl
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'd actually have Munster as favourites as it stands. Leinster are favourites to top Conference A. Munster basically have topped Conferemce B. With the final a week after Super Saturday it will be a final played without the internationals. Given how badly hit Leinster have been by the 6Ns plus all the injuries we have now too, Munster have to be favourites to win any final between the 2 sides?

    That'll be a farce if true. They can have the following week off.


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    #6344
    bayern
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'd actually have Munster as favourites as it stands. Leinster are favourites to top Conference A. Munster basically have topped Conferemce B. With the final a week after Super Saturday it will be a final played without the internationals. Given how badly hit Leinster have been by the 6Ns plus all the injuries we have now too, Munster have to be favourites to win any final between the 2 sides?

    ah yeah i'd agree.. munster minus the intls should be able to defeat leinster minus their intls.

    would be a fitting end to this pro 14 season.


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    #6345
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'd actually have Munster as favourites as it stands. Leinster are favourites to top Conference A. Munster basically have topped Conferemce B. With the final a week after Super Saturday it will be a final played without the internationals. Given how badly hit Leinster have been by the 6Ns plus all the injuries we have now too, Munster have to be favourites to win any final between the 2 sides?

    I dunno molloy, the bookies currently have Leinster as 1/3 favourites to win it outright.


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    #6346
    irelandrover
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    bayern wrote: »
    ah yeah i'd agree.. munster minus the intls should be able to defeat leinster minus their intls.

    would be a fitting end to this pro 14 season.

    So it highly likely Munster are in a final this year, you have them as favourites for that final, but you still rate Munster and Connacht as having the same chances to win a trophy next?


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    #6347
    Squidgy Black
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    aloooof wrote: »
    I dunno molloy, the bookies currently have Leinster as 1/3 favourites to win it outright.

    A lot hinges on getting internationals back into the squad, or some of our injured players returning, we've one fit senior out half at the moment available and a centre/fullback covering backup 10, and forced into a 6-2 split on the bench because we've no fit available backs with the likes of Jamie Osborne from the sub academy on the bench.

    I think Munster could have a decent chance at winning if the squad numbers continue how they are and there's a fair few internationals rested.


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    #6348
    thomond2006
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    I'd actually have Munster as favourites as it stands. Leinster are favourites to top Conference A. Munster basically have topped Conferemce B. With the final a week after Super Saturday it will be a final played without the internationals. Given how badly hit Leinster have been by the 6Ns plus all the injuries we have now too, Munster have to be favourites to win any final between the 2 sides?

    What's cute hoorism in Leinsterese?
    Podge_irl wrote: »
    That'll be a farce if true. They can have the following week off.

    The regular season has been pretty farcical so it might be an appropriate final! :pac:


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    #6349
    yerrahbah
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    That'll be a farce if true. They can have the following week off.

    The Champions Cup round of 16 is the following W/E


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    #6350
    molloyjh
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    That'll be a farce if true. They can have the following week off.

    It is true. It was announced a while back. I tend to be slow to criticise the league but it is an absolute joke. The final regular game is the same weekend as Super Saturday. So teams fighting it out for spots in Europe will be doing so without their internationals. And then the final is on the week after, with guaranteed 2 Irish teams, meaning player welfare will rob both of their internationals. They could and should really have pushed it all out by a week.


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    #6351
    molloyjh
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    yerrahbah wrote: »
    The Champions Cup round of 16 is the following W/E

    Ah forgot about that. What a mess.


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    #6352
    Thrashssacre
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    Tomtom364 wrote: »
    Looking at the contracts announced yesterday again.

    Jake Flannery skipping Year 3 of the academy to join the senior squad + Healy's promotion and lets assume JJ extends for 1 year. That would mean Munster have 4 Senior Out halves + 1 promising academy talent on the books with realistically only 1 of those looking at Ireland call Ups next season. I know Healy and Flannery, particularly Flannery would be relative novices at senior 10 but it looks a bit bloated.

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see JJ not extend if he could get a 2 Year contract elsewhere and I think the Flannery move could be partly a mitigation of the chance of that happening.

    There's fast becoming a case for sending carbery back to Leinster.


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    #6353
    Podge_irl
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    yerrahbah wrote: »
    The Champions Cup round of 16 is the following W/E

    Then no weekend off...

    I would be hopeful some players at least will be released but if we see two teams compete in a final shorn of any internationals it will be ridiculous.


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    #6354
    Tomtom364
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    Thrashssacre wrote: »
    There's fast becoming a case for sending carbery back to Leinster.

    Why would Leinster need Carbery with the second coming of the Messiah ripping it up in the Pro14?


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    #6355
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,032 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Interesting survey from Munster re next season. Looks like they're contemplating reintroducing season tickets with a refund for cancelled games/games you don't get a lottery place for


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    #6356
    bayern
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    Tomtom364 wrote: »
    Why would Leinster need Carbery with the second coming of the Messiah ripping it up in the Pro14?

    Jack Crowley plays pro 14 rugby since when?


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    #6357
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    bayern wrote: »
    Jack Crowley plays pro 14 rugby since when?

    Would Jack Crowley get especially more time if he moved to Leinster?


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    #6358
    bayern
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    aloooof wrote: »
    Would Jack Crowley get especially more time if he moved to Leinster?

    young players play more often at leinster than they do at munster.


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    #6359
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,248 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    bayern wrote: »
    young players play more often at leinster than they do at munster.

    By dint of having more internationals. Whatever way you look at it, there's a backlog at 10 at Leinster as well.


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    #6360
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,776 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Duncan Casey: Billy Holland is one of a kind in so many ways


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    #6361
    Tomtom364
    Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Tomtom364


    bayern wrote: »
    Jack Crowley plays pro 14 rugby since when?

    Bayern are you insinuating that Jack Crowley is a better rugby player than Harry Byrne :eek: this is quite a moment for you


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