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The Batman (Matt Reeves) ***spoilers from post 1030***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Agreed. I didn't see the Mad Maxness.. but now that I have! :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I'm starting to wonder if they're going the Bruce is broke route. Just something about the whole aesthetic, including the suit and bike, suggests he doesn't have access to top of the line technology.

    I believe one of the stories from the comics, possibly Year One, went this route where Bruce was swindled out of the Wayne fortune when his parents died.

    Just saying.

    Surely this is the route they're taking and I love that Batmobile. Gives me strong nostalgia for the toys I used to collect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Niska


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I never realised til this minute that a Batman Mad Max crossover is what I want to see, lol

    The Bats and the Furious.

    Isn't that the (opening) Lego movie 2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    I more see 'baby' from Supernatural!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    the george miller look of batman from his abandoned 2008 justice league movie

    its armie hammer

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B928spClXZ3/?

    https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/batman-justice-league-mortal-george-miller-armie-hammer/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Unsurprising news really, but I kind of have my fingers crossed that most delayed movies can use the time to refine their scripts and produce an even better final product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Hmmmm.. possible glimpses of a version of Bruce Wayne that Robert Pattinson could maybe use in the last few seconds of the new trailer for Tenet

    Jump to 2:30:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,320 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    Robert Pattinson fired from The Batman!!!

    https://youtu.be/cZ-f2Fo1bXY

    Holy ****


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Robert Pattinson fired from The Batman!!!

    https://youtu.be/cZ-f2Fo1bXY

    Holy ****

    Not a chance! Who comes up with this nonsense?


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Not a chance! Who comes up with this nonsense?

    People who just pull random ****e out of their ass just for click bait & views.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    People who just pull random ****e out of their ass just for click bait & views.

    Not even going to click the link for that reason. Not a single outlet I'd trust has even hinted about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Not even going to click the link for that reason. Not a single outlet I'd trust has even hinted about this.

    I saw it when there were no responses, thought it was some early news, felt dirty giving him a click.


  • Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭BSK


    Could have 2 Batman films floating around if Affleck does more after JL


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Affleck won't be back, it ruined his life almost completely


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Affleck's done, I'd say no amount of money could tease him back & from a corporate point of view it'd send the wrong signal about Matt Reeve's film. Would come off like hedging ones bets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    BSK wrote: »
    Could have 2 Batman films floating around if Affleck does more after JL

    There's literally a meme about how sad he was promoting those films. Not a chance he'll be back.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Affleck went straight to rehab after Justice League. Have heard first hand that although a nice guy, he was not the healthiest or easiest on himself during the JL principle shoot.

    Ideally I would like to see him take on the role again, but I'd bet he's done and I can't blame him for that.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Really wish Affleck had been given the opportunity to direct/star in a Batman film set just before Batman v Superman. DC and Snyder were in such a rush to catch up to the MCU, they learned nothing from how Marvel built up the MCU to be able to support the team-up/crossover movies.

    I'd love to have seen a proper, self contained, detective batfleck movie.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Shared it in the general off topic chat, but Batman filming could pick up again realtively soon.

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/31/the-batman-among-movies-given-go-ahead-for-restart-of-uk-filming


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IrishJedi75


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Affleck's done, I'd say no amount of money could tease him back & from a corporate point of view it'd send the wrong signal about Matt Reeve's film. Would come off like hedging ones bets.


    Affleck IS back.Kind of.The Snyder cut of Justice League is happening and hes been championing it for a while now.He will definetly be back for ADR and any additional shooting Snyder needs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Affleck IS back.Kind of.The Snyder cut of Justice League is happening and hes been championing it for a while now.He will definetly be back for ADR and any additional shooting Snyder needs.

    They're not doing additional shooting. Just ADR.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've no doubt Affleck will do some additional dialogue if it's required, but I just can't see him doing any reshoots. That's a whole different story and workload to ADR.

    As it was in the JL movie we got, Affleck especially was jarringly different in the reshot scenes. Now almost 3 years later, now when he isn't concentrating on maintaining a Batman/Bruce physique to honor his contract, I just can't see it.

    Anyway....just noticed the thread I'm posting in, which isn't one of the two already discussing the JL movie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IrishJedi75


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    They're not doing additional shooting. Just ADR.

    There WILL be additional shooting.One scene that Snyder never got to finish was where General Swannick from MOS and BVS was going to be revealed as Martian Manhunter.It was a scene where Martha Kent is having a conversation with Lois Lane and '' Martha '' is actually Jonn Jonnz in human form.

    Snyder shot some of it but never finished it.Harry Lennix who plays General Swannick has hinted they are going to finish it.

    And Affleck is actually in really good shape these days.Any additonal scenes with him in the Batman suit shouldnt be a problem.The fact that they are spending up to 80 million dollars to do this cut means that they are doing a HELL of a lot more than ADR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    He’s a recovering alcoholic, who had a massive relapse *because of* playing Batman. You can be 99% sure he won’t be doing any shooting, and I’d even be extremely surprised if he did ADR


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IrishJedi75


    MJohnston wrote: »
    He’s a recovering alcoholic, who had a massive relapse *because of* playing Batman. You can be 99% sure he won’t be doing any shooting, and I’d even be extremely surprised if he did ADR

    Hes recovered.And hes done several films since.Hes also been a strong advocate of getting Snyders cut released.And he didnt relapse because of playing Batman.Thats just silly.The guy had personal problems which hes dealt with.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Big difference between some recording some voicework or ADR at the local studio, and a full production shoot with all the physical and costume requirements that come with a superhero flick. The budget isn't there for major reshoots and getting Gadot, Afflick back would be a logistical hurdle.

    If Afflick relapsed because of JL then for his and his family's health he shouldn't go back - and presumably won't. But a little ADR he can do in his PJs at home, his sanity and sobriety in check.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Plus, CoVid makes any shoots of any stripe much more difficult for the next 12 months. By all accounts there was a slew of material left behind from Synder (major sequences such as Barry Allen saving Iris West), while with some generous editing + ADR and CGI, you could add new set pieces without the need for the actors suiting up.

    Agreed on the budget too, figures I've seen in outlets has been around the 30 million mark. That'll be quickly eaten up by FX and post production.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The head of Warner and HBO Max had this to say in the last week, I can't see anything about reshoots...

    "It isn't as easy as going into the vault and there's a Snyder Cut sitting there to put out... Zack is actually building it and it's complex, including - and I don't wanna get into too much detail that we haven't already talked about yet - but, new effects shots. It's a radical rethinking of that movie and it's complicated and wildly expensive. Which is, of course, a number I won't quote... I'll just say I wish it was $30 million and stop there."

    The same article reports that when Snyder stepped down, he was already in post-production...
    When Snyder initially stepped down from the DC team-up film, he was in the midst of post-production. Principal photography had wrapped, but there was still a lot of work to be done with visual effects, the musical score, and other aspects.

    I reckon the money will be spent on everything but reshoots, and that a Snyder Cut which still needed reshoots to complete it would have been a very different proposition for WB/HBO Max to greenlight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    There WILL be additional shooting.One scene that Snyder never got to finish was where General Swannick from MOS and BVS was going to be revealed as Martian Manhunter.It was a scene where Martha Kent is having a conversation with Lois Lane and '' Martha '' is actually Jonn Jonnz in human form.

    Snyder shot some of it but never finished it.Harry Lennix who plays General Swannick has hinted they are going to finish it.

    And Affleck is actually in really good shape these days.Any additonal scenes with him in the Batman suit shouldnt be a problem.The fact that they are spending up to 80 million dollars to do this cut means that they are doing a HELL of a lot more than ADR.

    The actor has *hinted* at it so you're assuming it WILL happen. WB have said there won't be reshoots. Also where are you getting 80 million from, the figure I've seen reported is 20-30 for effects and ADR.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    MJohnston wrote: »
    He’s a recovering alcoholic, who had a massive relapse *because of* playing Batman. You can be 99% sure he won’t be doing any shooting, and I’d even be extremely surprised if he did ADR

    I wouldn't say it was because of playing Batman but more due to a number of factors that converged while he was playing Batman. Affleck's personal issues are well documented and were around long before he put on the cowl.

    It goes without saying if Affleck returned it wouldn't be under the same circumstances that drove him away, but if he didn't return I wouldn't blame him. Not only were the suits at WB giving him a hard time but the abuse that came his way from fans and "critics" because he dared to be in a polarising film or two was disgusting. Worse than the abuse he got for Daredevil


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,666 ✭✭✭✭MJohnston


    Hes recovered.And hes done several films since.Hes also been a strong advocate of getting Snyders cut released.And he didnt relapse because of playing Batman.Thats just silly.The guy had personal problems which hes dealt with.

    Call it recovered if you want but any recovered alcoholic will tell you that it’s a constant process that you don’t just cure one day. The personal problems he had were definitely compounded by playing Batman and to return to that would be to reopen that period of his life. Here’s some choice quotes from his recent NYT interview that indicate strongly to me that he would never want to do Batman again:
    “I showed somebody ‘The Batman’ script,” Affleck recalled. “They said, ‘I think the script is good. I also think you’ll drink yourself to death if you go through what you just went through again.’”
    He took a sharp breath and exhaled slowly, as if to slow himself down. “It’s not particularly healthy for me to obsess over the failures — the relapses — and beat myself up,” he said. “I have certainly made mistakes. I have certainly done things that I regret. But you’ve got to pick yourself up, learn from it, learn some more, try to move forward.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IrishJedi75


    The cast and crews of Zack Snyders films are extremely loyal to him.The likes of Affleck,Jason Momoa and Gal Gadot have championed his cut of Justice League getting release.They wouldnt do that if they were not at least willing to pop in to the studio for a day or two of ADR.Heck,even Henry Cavill appeared on Snyders Watch party for Man Of Steel when they made the Snyder Cut announcement.

    And you people seriously think they wont come back and do ADR?

    Also,30 million was the initial estimate but a recent statement from one of the heads of HBO Max says he wishes 30 million was the number,but its closer to 80 million, saying '' Theres a lot of work to be done ''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Any chance the Justice League-specific chat can be moved to the appropriate thread?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,526 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Did anyone see Colin Farrell's interview on The Late Late Show last Friday?

    He was saying that there is a large amount of people working on this film with Matt Reeves. He said that was between 400 to 500 people working on the set of The Batman. Temperature checks should be done once filming of this film returns later in the year. I don't know how bringing back that large cohort of people could work as soon when all of this Covid stuff has officially died down when filming returns to normal in late August. The biggest problem that I can see not working out for the moment is doing contact scenes within this film. All staff would have read up from the health authorities on how they can obtain this virus if they were nearer other people; there could be a risk that you can be infected with the virus if people on set can come into close contact when there are scenes involving physical confrontation. Obviously when filming for a scene so it can go out to post production. It wouldn't look good for the fans to see the actors wearing face masks being worn in the film unless it has to be done with people not wearing masks & the only way to not see them is with editing the masks out with CGI & VFX. I think the need for deep cleaning on set will have to be done regularly as well so that people can have a lower chance of getting infected with Covid-19 in future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 IrishJedi75


    I guess there wont be any love scenes in movies and tv for a while!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    The Batman Film Scores Spinoff Series at HBO Max, Will Explore Gotham City's Collection of 'Complex Characters'
    The companion series — from Reeves, The Batman producer Dylan Clark, Boardwalk Empire creator Terence Winter and Warner Bros. Television — will “build upon the motion picture’s examination of the anatomy of corruption in Gotham City, ultimately launching a new Batman universe across multiple platforms.

    https://tvline.com/2020/07/10/the-batman-tv-series-hbo-max-gotham-city/


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I'm so confused.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I heard that one before - and we got Gotham; a show that existed in some weird mutant combination of Tim Burton and Adam West's Batman.

    Most Marvel / DC properties' worlds and locations can be fairly generic - but Gotham is a place that's a character unto itself, and positively cries out for a TV adaptation that does it justice. But then if it's linked to the Pattinson universe, it'll likely have immediate constraints over what characters it could use (so presumably no DA Harvey Dent, in case WB want Two-Face as a movie villain)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,881 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    So will The Batman HBO series be linked to The Green Lantern HBO series then.

    WBDC really are making an arse of there IP.

    The CW universe

    The DC streaming Universe

    The Pennyworth Universe

    The Snyder Universe

    The Joker Universe

    The Batman Universe

    The Suicide Squad/Birds of Prey Universe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Ridley


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Most Marvel / DC properties' worlds and locations can be fairly generic - but Gotham is a place that's a character unto itself, and positively cries out for a TV adaptation that does it justice. But then if it's linked to the Pattinson universe, it'll likely have immediate constraints over what characters it could use (so presumably no DA Harvey Dent, in case WB want Two-Face as a movie villain)

    If They're doing Gotham Central that could work in its favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So will The Batman HBO series be linked to The Green Lantern HBO series then.

    WBDC really are making an arse of there IP.

    The CW universe

    The DC streaming Universe

    The Pennyworth Universe

    The Snyder Universe

    The Joker Universe

    The Batman Universe

    The Suicide Squad/Birds of Prey Universe.

    Suicide Squad/BoP is same universe as Snyder Universe since we got a wee crossover.
    Though the DC streaming Universe was split as well at the end of the Crisis where they showed Stargirl, Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol and Titans all being set on separate Earths even though they previously established Titans and Doom Patrol as being on the same Earth as each other.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    That CW universe is just going to keep rolling. As long as they stick to C and D listers like Stargirl more power to them.

    I expect Pennyworth to go out quietly.

    Joker's not really an universe....or at least the talk of a sequel has gone quiet.

    Doom Patrol and Titans can keep plugging on quietly without causing too much of a headache.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,100 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Really leaning into that red and black. I like it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The red and black is a good colour scheme, wonder if that'll inform anything in that actual film itself. Haven't seen any reds on the costume AFAIK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,284 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Turns out it's really a Batwoman film.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Vanity Fair just broke Ben Affleck is returning in the Flash movie....how nice to have two love action versions of the character on the go!

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/08/ben-affleck-returns-batman-the-flash-multiverse-keaton


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