The Batman (Matt Reeves) ***spoilers from post 1030***

OU812

Apparently it was part of his contract that he'd star in and direct a new solo Batman movie, he's due to start when he completes his next project which I guess would give it a 2019 release date.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-ben-affleck-teams-807757

Personally, I don't think we need a new vision of the series. I think Batman at this point would be better returning to TV alongside the likes of Arrow and The Flash.

DoYouEvenLift

After what I'm assuming will be insane, massive scale action in BvS I think making a solo batman movie that lives up to what he was seen to be capable of in BvS will be a real challenge, especially because they'll really need to choose the villian(s) very particularly.

Sphynxinatron

I hope that in one of his solo movies, an updated bane makes an appereance. Being a batman fan himself, he surely would make an awesome Knightfall adaptation.

ricero

Would like to see the Riddler again

sky88

I get the feeling that the Joker would be the bad guy for this

Wannabegarda

I'd love to see an adaptation of the red hood storyline. It fits perfectly into the older batman that they are trying to create.

JP Liz V1

Ben Affleck has announced the title of his new Batman movie and it is




"The Batman"

flangemeistro

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Ben Affleck has announced the title of his new Batman movie and it is




"The Batman"

Groundbreaking

Loughc

I look forward to the sequel, "The Batman, The"

loyatemu

Loughc wrote: »

I look forward to the sequel, "The Batman, The"

"The Batmen"

where Jack Nicholson and Christian Bale join Affleck in a "3 Doctors" style adventure.

DrumSteve

loyatemu wrote: »

"The Batmen"

where Jack Nicholson and Christian Bale join Affleck in a "3 Doctors" style adventure.

Now that, I'd want to see. Jack as the batman.

Bounty Hunter

I read elsewhere deathstroke will play a major role in this after first being introduced with a minor role in the justice league.

loyatemu

DrumSteve wrote: »

Now that, I'd want to see. Jack as the batman.

d'oh - I'd originally typed "Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger" then I remembered Ledger didn't play Batman and is also dead. I'm asleep

So Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, Bale and Affleck as "The 5 Batmen" - sounds good to me!

jacksie66

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eviltimeban

loyatemu wrote: »

d'oh - I'd originally typed "Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger" then I remembered Ledger didn't play Batman and is also dead. I'm asleep

So Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, Bale and Affleck as "The 5 Batmen" - sounds good to me!

sounds like the best gay porn movie ever.

cowboyBuilder

He was absolutely fantastic as Batman in BvS .. the only thing I didn't like about that film was introducing other JL characters - so I hope it sticks to Batman and 1 maybe 2 villains...

Agent Coulson

loyatemu wrote: »

d'oh - I'd originally typed "Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger" then I remembered Ledger didn't play Batman and is also dead. I'm asleep

So West, Keaton, Kilmer, Clooney, Bale and Affleck as "The 5 6 Batmen" - sounds good to me!

Fyp

DrumSteve

eviltimeban wrote: »

sounds like the best gay porn movie ever.

That'd be the 5 Batty-Men no?

Watched too much Ali G.

JP Liz V1

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ben-affleck-the-batman-will-not-direct-1201971566/

Affleck not directing

I would love for Carrey to return as the Riddler.

Penn

Deleted User wrote: »

I would love for Carrey to return as the Riddler.

I'd rather they dug up Frank Gorshin's corpse and Weekend-At-Bernies'ed him as the Riddler than have Carrey back

IncognitoMan

Apparently Matt Reeves is the director now.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/813429-matt-reeves-batman-director#/slide/1

I liked Cloverfield. Thought Dawn of the planet of the apes was great and I'm very much looking forward to war. But I don't think I've seen much else from him.

A little underwhelmed tbh.

Nervous Wreck

Very underwhelming.

Sad Professor

Reeves is a good catch if true. He’s probably the best director of a DCEU film to date. And they got him at a good time because if War is as good as Dawn he’ll soon be elevated to A-list status. Shame Disney didn’t nab him for Episode 9.

Warners at least seem to have recognised the terrible mistake they made with Snyder.

pixelburp

Given the directorial hirings so far this surely must seem like a good move; Reeves is no pulse quickener yes, but he's a safe and reliable pair of hands, amd importantly has a solid CV with good mid-range blockbuster successes. It comes across like an acknowledgement that Synder and Ayer have been empty vessels making a lot of noise.

Sad Professor

Talks with Reeves have broken down according to THR.

This may be connected to recent rumours that Affleck is trying to get out of his contract.

Chip Whitley

Matt Reeves is IN according to both his and Ben Afflecks Twitter. Happy enough with that I must say.

NUTZZ

The release date is now being reported as 'pushed back to 2019' for The Batman.

If the rumor of a 2019 release date is true, it gives director Matt Reeves a lot more time to to write the movie that he wants to see. The director has brought up his fondness for Christopher Nolan's ability to bring legitimacy to the comic book movie genre with the Dark Knight trilogy and has hinted that he would like to take The Batman in a similar direction. But this time, giving moviegoers more of an insight into how Batman ticks. Reeves has also stated that the movie is influenced by the works of Alfred Hitchcock, giving viewers the perspective of Batman in a more detailed way than has ever been seen before on the big screen.

The rumored 2019 release date also brings up questions of the DCEU timeline and where The Batman might fit in to movies like Justice League and its sequel. A projected release date for Justice League 2 is summer of 2019, so where would The Batman fall? Could it be before the events of the sequel or after? Again, this is speculation at this point, but it does raise an interesting question of wondering where The Batman will fall into line if it is indeed released in 2019. The project will definitely have an impact on Justice League 2 regardless of when it's released.

While the rumor of a projected release date of 2019 may seem like a bummer to Batman fans, it does make a lot of sense logistically. The move to start over from scratch was a big indicator that the movie could be pushed back and production was to already have started by now for the original March 2018 release date. If anything, fans should be excited that the movie is hitting the breaks in an effort to deliver the best possible project possible.

JP Liz V1

https://batman-news.com/2019/01/04/report-the-batman-production-pushed-back-to-the-end-of-2019/

Warner Bros. is eyeing a November 2019 production start on The Batman with Ben Affleck still reportedly out

pixelburp

Man, my enthusiasm for all features DC related really has bottomed out. Aquaman was the final straw, to hell with these slipshod films. The only one that still has my slimmest interest is the Joker spinoff of all things, and that's purely down to Phoenix and the supposed "mob thriller" approach. And any new Batman production needs to go back to basics - something I suspect is not in the vocabulary of WBDC...

Oafley Jones

pixelburp wrote: »

And any new Batman production needs to go back to basics - something I suspect is not in the vocabulary of WBDC...

Isn’t that what’s this production has always been about?

mloc123

Is DCEU dead now? No JL2?

IncognitoMan

Aquaman just became the highest grossing film of the DCEU, on course to break a billion, made more than 15 of the 20 MCU movies or something crazy.

I think they'll plough on to be honest. Could be a while before we see Batman or Superman again though and JL2 is way way off, if it ever gets made.

Johnmb

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Aquaman just became the highest grossing film of the DCEU, on course to break a billion, made more than 15 of the 20 MCU movies or something crazy.

I think they'll plough on to be honest. Could be a while before we see Batman or Superman again though and JL2 is way way off, if it ever gets made.

They may just keep the characters separate, effectively killing the DCEU. It wouldn't be that hard for them to keep the current Wonder Woman and Aquaman, but in their movies they simply never refer to each other or the other JL members. It would be as if they were stand alone universes. That way, they can keep the successful franchises and reboot the others as they see fit without having to keep them all tied in.

IncognitoMan

Johnmb wrote: »

They may just keep the characters separate, effectively killing the DCEU. It wouldn't be that hard for them to keep the current Wonder Woman and Aquaman, but in their movies they simply never refer to each other or the other JL members. It would be as if they were stand alone universes. That way, they can keep the successful franchises and reboot the others as they see fit without having to keep them all tied in.

I don't know. They made it clear in Aquaman that it's set after JL. Shazam has Superman and Batman references as well. Both are under the new studio head so if they were looking to go separate I would presume they would just stop referencing the wider universe.

The easy move would of course be to just go separate but if they have 2 or 3 successful series going they will want to team them up for a bigger box office. They always do.

The universe isn't unsavable, it just needs direction with an overall vision and something to work towards. That was what the shake up was meant to be about and Aquaman is the first of the 'new' set up and seems to be a hit financially at least. Shazam isn't far away so we'll see how that shapes up.

Cotts72

I think they'll continue with the DC Universe,they just need to take a leaf out of the Marvel book and build the characters they have now before JL2 in 3-4 years.

Realistically every actor they have playing each character so far is spot on besides Aflleck. I think Caville will remain onboard.

Be interesting to see if they do Flashpoint how it will setup the current cast list

Drumpot

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Aquaman just became the highest grossing film of the DCEU, on course to break a billion, made more than 15 of the 20 MCU movies or something crazy.

I think they'll plough on to be honest. Could be a while before we see Batman or Superman again though and JL2 is way way off, if it ever gets made.

Just shows what audience want is not necessarily quality. MOS and BvS were IMO better movies then Aquaman and the awful JL and yet both seemed to of been generally received better! The mind boggles....

pixelburp

Yeah, I'm struggling to rationalise the success of Aquaman. But hey, as with everything else DC/WB might have accidentally stumbled on the right course of action in the end with these solo films, rather than Justice League's crowbar approach.

Penn

Drumpot wrote: »

Just shows what audience want is not necessarily quality. MOS and BvS were IMO better movies then Aquaman and the awful JL and yet both seemed to of been generally received better! The mind boggles....

I think it's that while Aquaman and JL were average and okay, in MoS and BvS the good was great and the bad was really really bad (well, more BvS than MoS).

Aquaman and JL are bland and don't do anything particularly great or wonderful, but BvS to a lot of people just got so many things completely wrong that the really great bits of it weren't enough to save it. Plus Wonder Woman may have helped reinvigorate people's interest in the DCEU films too and acted as a tipping point for people to give the DCEU another shot.

Drumpot

Penn wrote: »

I think it's that while Aquaman and JL were average and okay, in MoS and BvS the good was great and the bad was really really bad (well, more BvS than MoS).

Aquaman and JL are bland and don't do anything particularly great or wonderful, but BvS to a lot of people just got so many things completely wrong that the really great bits of it weren't enough to save it. Plus Wonder Woman may have helped reinvigorate people's interest in the DCEU films too and acted as a tipping point for people to give the DCEU another shot.

Bearing it mind I concede this is all subjective analysis but I wouldn’t agree with the BvS narrative because many of the things people hated (like “Martha” )were actually not objectivity bad elements. Just unpopular. I think that happens a lot in franchises where people get upset about certain aspects of a movie that’s less about the objective entertainment, more about fitting in with what they expect. I think the extended version of BvS fixed certainly the Lex Luther master plan questions and made for a more interesting villian IMO.

I enjoy marvel and some (Snyder) DC movies for what they give. The success of WW was clearly because it copied and pasted a lot of the marvel template that film goers enjoy. So now we are gonna get watered down DC stuff and rinse repeat from marvel. I was really wanting to see where the very different Snyder movies might go but clearly in the minority on that. Now we will get marvel and watered down marvel movies with DC characters.

Baggly

I liked Snyders stuff. His rumoured plans for JL and for further movies sounded bang on to me (if true).

Its a shame it didnt work out, but c'est la vie.

Im in the camp that liked MOS & BvS though. JL was meh. Some good moments, but not something id rush back to watch. WW though was a bit meh as well for me. Far too formulaic. It had some really good moments, but seemed awfully rushed to me on rewatch there over Xmas.

Regardless, a new Batman in would be great.....it would be amazing if they could do it within the rationale of the current DCEU (Batfleck gets killed off and a new Batman rises) but any replacement and refresh of the character would be welcome. Feel for Affleck as he obviously cares about the source material and character, but the whole project hasnt worked out for him in terms of the structures placed around him to make the movies.

Flashpoint would be a good way of getting a new Batman in actually.

Kirby

If they have any sense they will stay a million miles away from anything flashpoint related. Time travel is the limit of the average movie goers acceptance of sci-fi. The moment you start talking about alternate dimensions, you will lose them.

And they don't need it to create a new batman. Batfleck dies and somebody else takes up the mantle. There, done. No need for anything more complicated.

Baggly

Kirby wrote:

If they have any sense they will stay a million miles away from anything flashpoint related. Time travel is the limit of the average movie goers acceptance of sci-fi. The moment you start talking about alternate dimensions, you will lose them.

Nah just do a back to the future on it but when they fix the present, a few things a different.

Do the chalkboard explanation that doc brown did and you are laughing.

The flash tv show did it well actually.

pixelburp

What I'd really love, is if the movies did more with the whole 'Greatest Detective' monicker Batman has; the Nolan films did touch on this with a few instances of Wayne using his smarts to investigate crime scenes, but it is effectively non-existent in the DCEU. Quite the opposite in fact: Batman's a rich vigilante thug, who brands(!) criminals and mounts machine guns on his car.

What I fear now, given they keep taking all the wrong lessons, is that Aquaman tells WB to make this new Batman a big, bold CGI adventure. I'm pouring even more hope and optimism into this Joker film, because if it turns out to be good, grounded AND a money-spinner, it might persuade the suits to let Batman be a detective again.

Kirby

Pter wrote: »

Nah just do a back to the future on it but when they fix the present, a few things a different.

Do the chalkboard explanation that doc brown did and you are laughing.

The flash tv show did it well actually.

Yes but the point being there is no NEED for it. It's part of the batman folklore already that somebody will take his place with the whole robin/nightwing thing. Why complicate it with the time travel at all? There is a ready-made explanation already in the canon that the audience will accept.

And we disagree strongly on how the flash tv show performed flashpoint. That show is a total mess with cardboard cutout characters, childish writing and thats not even mentioning the hamfisted alternate earth storylines. The Flash has consistently lost viewers every season and the only reason why its still on the air is that it's numbers are acceptable for a small time network like the CW....and also because its part of CW's universe with Arrow and Supergirl.

This is not something the head honcho's will want to emulate.

Baggly

Happy to agree to disagree.

Im not suggesting they replicate the Flash TV show verbatim, but for a limited scope show, they did a decent job. I dont have high expectations of that show, which is maybe why i enjoy it.

With regards to the folklore; committing to Nightwing / Robin taking over would mean they introduce that character and have them take over within the same movie. As mad as it sounds, a flashpoint rewrite is 'simpler' to pull off vs creating a new Batman alongside doing the death of Batfleck correctly.

In addition to that, if you are going off the source material, the heir to the throne hasn't actually stayed in the throne for an extended period of time, with Bruce always returning. Now if we are talking real world and ousting Ben Affleck, you cant count on him eventually coming back, which means you are committing to going off canon......which has issues itself as have seen with the DCEU.

Look as we have both said we can agree to disagree. I just think it would be possible to do and with the right director and overall EU direction, could be decent to refresh part of the DCEU.

Cotts72

I just don't think you can have a Batman movie without Bruce Wayne as Batman..

justinbellford

pixelburp wrote: »

What I'd really love, is if the movies did more with the whole 'Greatest Detective' monicker Batman has; the Nolan films did touch on this with a few instances of Wayne using his smarts to investigate crime scenes, but it is effectively non-existent in the DCEU.

This is what I have been wanting for years. I would love to see something along the lines of the Hush story line, or even a riff on what they did in the Arkham series with Clayface.

Something like Bruce being framed for crimes/murders and trying to prove his innocence during the day and solving the mystery as Batman at night.

w/s/p/c/

Read this morning that "The Batman" is slated for release in 2021.

Ben Affleck will not be playing Batman, a younger version of the character will appear in the film (so another reboot and hopefully we don't see Martha and Thomas Wayne get killed for the 457th time on screen).

Disappointed as I thought he played the role well (despite how poor the movies his version of the character appeared in were). Enjoyed Jeremy Irons as Alfred too, wonder will the keep him like Michael Gough was kept in the 80's/90's movies.

Wonder who will be lined up to don the cowl and cape?

Baggly

I saw quotes from the director saying its going to be a 'Noir' take on the character and focus more on him being the worlds greatest detective. I think that's a good idea. Its not an aspect of the character that has been elaborated on much in the movies thusfar. Especially the recent ones, where Batman has just been a rich, well equipped brawler.

Sad Professor

I'm pretty sure the development of every new Batman film begins with the director saying "he's going to be more of a detective in this" and yet somehow it never really happens.