Gyms to Reopen 2021???

ongarite · 18-12-2020 7:05pm

No sign of them closing.
The government said today that hospitality industry would be closed again but retail and gyms would stay open.

Black Sheep · 18-12-2020 7:23pm

2020 probably saw more home gyms set up in Ireland than any previous year... For good reason. I'd say 2021 is not going to be much different until the final quarter.

Seems like a form of lockdown #3 is on the horizon. I find it difficult to believe that if numbers continue to rise we won't see gym closures and other restrictions in at least some counties, even if Leo is not quite ready to say that yet.

There was an equipment drought during lockdown #1 and #2, but from what I can see, at the moment there is a lot of stock out there to be had ... I'd suggest, if people have the dosh and have the space, then go get it.

Alf Veedersane · 18-12-2020 7:33pm

I suppose time will tell on how the changes in hospitality affect numbers.

Just on the home gym, I think having a gym to leave the house and go to has been a massive mental break with working from home. Apart from collecting the little one from school, the gym is the only time I've been getting out lately, though work has been mental which has been a factor.

leanin2019 · 18-12-2020 7:39pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I suppose time will tell on how the changes in hospitality affect numbers.

Just on the home gym, I think having a gym to leave the house and go to has been a massive mental break with working from home. Apart from collecting the little one from school, the gym is the only time I've been getting out lately, though work has been mental which has been a factor.

100 percent. Good to have both options though

nullzero · 18-12-2020 9:47pm

ongarite wrote: »

No sign of them closing.
The government said today that hospitality industry would be closed again but retail and gyms would stay open.

Thank god, I'm only getting back into it properly at this stage. The thoughts of another lock down is too much to contemplate.

Patsy167 · 21-12-2020 9:37am

Has anyone heard what the FlyeFit hours are over the Christmas period?

Going by their FAQ page "All other FLYEfit Gym locations will open between 05.30 and 23.15 Monday to Friday and 06.30 to 21.15 Saturday, Sunday and Bank Holidays"

Alf Veedersane · 21-12-2020 10:22am

Patsy167 wrote: »

Has anyone heard what the FlyeFit hours are over the Christmas period?

Going by their FAQ page "All other FLYEfit Gym locations will open between 05.30 and 23.15 Monday to Friday and 06.30 to 21.15 Saturday, Sunday and Bank Holidays"

They're on the FB page:

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DVDM93 · 22-12-2020 12:38am

Yes please.

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1341150450641473537?s=20

FlubberJones · 22-12-2020 1:19pm

Non-essential retail to remain open and gyms for individual training only, this is great news and will help me get through this again!

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-12-2020 2:17pm

Gyms to stay open official.

Thank God for some sense.

endacl · 22-12-2020 2:21pm

FlubberJones wrote: »

Non-essential retail to remain open and gyms for individual training only, this is great news and will help me get through this again!

The young fellas training in groups is starting to sneak back into Carlisle. I wish a bit of cop on would be imposed by staff, if not exercised by young fellas. Great to have the facility back. Would hate to see it vanish again.

nullzero · 22-12-2020 3:27pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Gyms to stay open official.

Thank God for some sense.

Good news alright.

Take January joiners out of the equation and a lot of Gyms, particularly smaller ones would probably end up closing their doors for good.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Gyms closed again at some point in Q1 2021 I'm afraid.

Kamu · 22-12-2020 3:45pm

Very happy to hear this, I was sparingly in the gym over the last few weeks expecting them to close again.

Knowing now they won't, I start my program back up and look to actually make some gains.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-12-2020 3:52pm

Kamu wrote: »

Very happy to hear this, I was sparingly in the gym over the last few weeks expecting them to close again.

Knowing now they won't, I start my program back up and look to actually make.somr gains.

I went hell for leather on the off chance they'd stay open!

Delighted now. Actual progress being made for the first time this year.

Dtp1979 · 22-12-2020 4:02pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

I went hell for leather on the off chance they'd stay open!

Delighted now. Actual progress being made for the first time this year.

Time for a deload chief

FlubberJones · 22-12-2020 4:48pm

endacl wrote: »

The young fellas training in groups is starting to sneak back into Carlisle. I wish a bit of cop on would be imposed by staff, if not exercised by young fellas. Great to have the facility back. Would hate to see it vanish again.

I saw this happening in CWD Ben D, I messaged the business in Facebook and said that this will result in closures happening again. I see this morning quite large stand up signs around the building stating "individual training only". Hopefully they enforce this and then we'll be good!

obi604 · 22-12-2020 5:37pm

hi, I see the line used for gyms is: "Non-essential retail will remain open as will gyms for individual training only"

Does this mean you can just go to the gym or do you have to book a 1:1 socially distanced session with a trainer?

Patsy167 · 22-12-2020 5:40pm

obi604 wrote: »

hi, I see the line used for gyms is: "Non-essential retail will remain open as will gyms for individual training only"

Does this mean you can just go to the gym or do you have to book a 1:1 socially distanced session with a trainer?

It just means organised classes are cancelled. BAU for the rest of the gym.

vafankillar · 22-12-2020 9:41pm

absolutely delighted with this, makes complete sense.

though I would have liked to see them make masks mandatory. or least gyms should do it themselves. if any clusters happen to pop up we could be ****ed. why not try minimize the risk.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-12-2020 9:49pm

vafankillar wrote: »

absolutely delighted with this, makes complete sense.

though I would have liked to see them make masks mandatory. or least gyms should do it themselves. if any clusters happen to pop up we could be ****ed. why not try minimize the risk.

Because wearing a mask in the gym is balls.

DVDM93 · 22-12-2020 9:58pm

Do ye think there's much chance of the gyms closing again at the next review on the 12th of January again or are they more likely to stay open given they weren't closed this time?

vafankillar · 22-12-2020 10:00pm

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Because wearing a mask in the gym is balls.

gyms being forced to close again would be...bigger balls?

if every stopped being a baby and wore the mask it would reduce the risk of spreading and closing again.

nullzero · 22-12-2020 10:16pm

vafankillar wrote: »

gyms being forced to close again would be...bigger balls?

if every stopped being a baby and wore the mask it would reduce the risk of spreading and closing again.

Masks and high intensity cardio don't mix.

Using them in places where they make sense is fine however.

caviardreams · 22-12-2020 10:19pm

DVDM93 wrote: »

Do ye think there's much chance of the gyms closing again at the next review on the 12th of January again or are they more likely to stay open given they weren't closed this time?

Yeah, this is a concern. I think there was a sense of allowing the gym to get some memberships in for Jan, and then if numbers are falling a good bit they might stay open - it there hasn't been a good slowdown by 12th Jan I imagine they may be closed along with non-essential retail. Hopefully once the numbers are going in the right direction it will be ok but that depends on people's behaviour in houses and shops etc. as well as gyms.

endacl · 22-12-2020 10:41pm

nullzero wrote: »

Masks and high intensity cardio don't mix.

Using them in places where they make sense is fine however.

Do the high intensity cardio out in the fresh air.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-12-2020 10:47pm

OmegaGene wrote: »

100% agree
Keep numbers down and stay in your own area and there’s no need for a mask

Limited numbers and sanitizing should be enough. Wearing a mask to train is almost as dumb as wearing a mask to eat.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-12-2020 10:48pm

vafankillar wrote: »

gyms being forced to close again would be...bigger balls?

if every stopped being a baby and wore the mask it would reduce the risk of spreading and closing again.

Yeah. There's no way I can wear a mask. I'm gasping for air as is. You can work away, I don't believe in telling people what, or what not to wear.

Balmed Out · 22-12-2020 10:50pm

caviardreams wrote: »

Yeah, this is a concern. I think there was a sense of allowing the gym to get some memberships in for Jan, and then if numbers are falling a good bit they might stay open - it there hasn't been a good slowdown by 12th Jan I imagine they may be closed along with non-essential retail. Hopefully once the numbers are going in the right direction it will be ok but that depends on people's behaviour in houses and shops etc. as well as gyms.

Agreed along with that at this stage id imagine their being guided from where they've seen cases originate in the past so gyms and leisure centres have probably been run well. Where I go were limited by time and can only use the gym or pool but its being cleaned more than any restaurant etc ive been to.

Eoinbmw · 22-12-2020 11:02pm

They neeeeeeeed to ban cardio from January 1st!

silverharp · 22-12-2020 11:41pm

If they put the rowing machines outside i'd be ok with that, might add a bit of realism but probably not great for the equipment.

Alf Veedersane · 23-12-2020 12:04am

Balmed Out wrote: »

Agreed along with that at this stage id imagine their being guided from where they've seen cases originate in the past so gyms and leisure centres have probably been run well.

They don't know where a lot of cases originate. They only go back 48 hours in the contact tracing which is why the HPSC reports on outbreaks are limited.

That's not to say gyms are sources of transmission but just that the absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence of absence.

But it's an environment where you can control a lot of things and minimise transmission without needing to close another sector

nullzero · 23-12-2020 12:51am

endacl wrote: »

Do the high intensity cardio out in the fresh air.

That's fine if you're able.

vafankillar · 23-12-2020 1:49am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Limited numbers and sanitizing should be enough. Wearing a mask to train is almost as dumb as wearing a mask to eat.

that's just a plain stupid comparison.

LessOutragePlz · 23-12-2020 1:55am

vafankillar wrote: »

gyms being forced to close again would be...bigger balls?

if every stopped being a baby and wore the mask it would reduce the risk of spreading and closing again.

I don't think calling people baby's for not wearing masks is helpful and I don't like wearing a mask as much as anyone else but, if I had to wear one to train in the gym then I'd wear one because training at home isn't the same as training with others in the gym.

The social aspect of going to the gym and training with others pursing the same goals as me is just as important to me as the physical benefits I get from going to the gym.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 23-12-2020 8:30am

vafankillar wrote: »

that's just a plain stupid comparison.

Have you done anything physical while wearing a mask??

SpacialNeeds · 23-12-2020 8:40am

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

I don't think calling people baby's for not wearing masks is helpful and I don't like wearing a mask as much as anyone else but, if I had to wear one to train in the gym then I'd wear one because training at home isn't the same as training with others in the gym.

The social aspect of going to the gym and training with others pursing the same goals as me is just as important to me as the physical benefits I get from going to the gym.

You somehow just perfectly encapsulated the exact reason I train at home.

Black Sheep · 23-12-2020 11:23am

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Have you done anything physical while wearing a mask??

Yep, I have done training where I was working wearing a fireproof mask and a helmet with a closed visor for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and carrying a fair bit of gear. A lot of people in emergency services or maybe on some military courses will have done something like that. It's not pleasant, it is claustrophobic and it's hot, but I have not seen anyone keel over due to oxygen deprivation yet.

I appreciate that you wrote a few posts back that you were 'gasping for air'. Maybe you have a particular condition that causes this, and have a doctor's note or whatever, but for what it's worth, gasping for breath is not a normal reaction to wearing the type of light and general purpose masks that most people wear, even if you're exerting yourself.

I don't actually care that much about mask wearing to be honest, but I do think that in smaller gyms where social distancing is not that practical, mask wearing probably does make sense and it's the norm in at least some jurisdictions. Unpleasant yes... In any way dangerous? I highly doubt it.

23-12-2020 11:54am

Let's be honest, very few people in a gym train at such a level that wearing a mask would inhibit them.

Cardio for most people means walking on an incline while hanging off the rail, or sitting on the recumbent bike.

I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but definitely the vast majority.

JeffKenna · 23-12-2020 12:05pm

Basil3 wrote: »

Let's be honest, very few people in a gym train at such a level that wearing a mask would inhibit them.

Cardio for most people means walking on an incline while hanging off the rail, or sitting on the recumbent bike.

I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but definitely the vast majority.

I'm not sure what cardio you do but in my gym people are going full belt.

23-12-2020 12:13pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

I'm not sure what cardio you do but in my gym people are going full belt.

Not talking about myself, just based on 20 odd years working in gyms.

Sure, there are a handful of people that train really hard with cardio, but it's not much more than that. Obviously people push hard in various metabolic classes, spinning etc, but with individual training, I'd see very few people really push themselves.

caviardreams · 23-12-2020 7:59pm

NPHET wrote to the Govt again today with "further recommendations" saying there needs to be tighter restrictions now the new variant is in Ireland. Hopefully this doesn't mean a change of plans post Xmas re the gyms and non essential retail

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-938-new-cases-as-data-suggests-new-uk-variant-is-in-the-state-1.4444809

peterofthebr · 23-12-2020 8:22pm

With the new strain we should do a hard quick lockdown to keep numbers under control

Alf Veedersane · 23-12-2020 9:44pm

peterofthebr wrote: »

With the new strain we should do a hard quick lockdown to keep numbers under control

The new strain hadn't been seen in any tests yet. Numbers will be watched and decisions made if they need to.

LLMMLL · 24-12-2020 12:29am

I really hope I'm wrong but what with the last few days of socialising and families meeting over Xmas the numbers are probably going to get worse before they get better. I'm expecting a government panic and more extreme measures brought in.

24-12-2020 12:32am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The new strain hadn't been seen in any tests yet. Numbers will be watched and decisions made if they need to.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/nphet-confirm-new-covid-19-variant-is-in-ireland-1055032.html

Dr Cillian De Gascun, medical virologist and director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory, confirmed that the new strain of Covid-19 first detected in Britain has now been detected in Ireland.

“Preliminary data would suggest, based on a selection of samples analysed from the weekend, that the novel variant from the UK is present in Ireland. However, given the timeline of the samples analysed, it would seem that the novel variant is not solely responsible for the recent increase in case numbers seen in Ireland.”

24-12-2020 2:33am

OmegaGene wrote: »

They are very vague points
It would suggest
It would seem

Either way gyms are open so go in peace and get some gains

I'd take it as 100% fact the UK strain is here TBH.
Gyms are indeed open but I was replying to "The new strain hadn't been seen in any tests yet" which isn't at all correct.

It's analogous to folk being 100% dead prior to that being pronounced..... The prognosis doesn't change.

If the confirm in 3 days time what was seen last weekend it was still seen last weekend.

In the UK they knew about the UK strain months ago.

caviardreams · 24-12-2020 8:23am

Looks like today might be the last day for gyms after all

:(

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-government-urged-to-begin-six-week-lockdown-on-st-stephen-s-day-1.4444984

Another full 6 week lock down possibly on the horizon from stephen's day - we didn't even get 4 weeks! :mad::(

Alf Veedersane · 24-12-2020 9:20am

Augeo wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/nphet-confirm-new-covid-19-variant-is-in-ireland-1055032.html

Dr Cillian De Gascun, medical virologist and director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory, confirmed that the new strain of Covid-19 first detected in Britain has now been detected in Ireland.

“Preliminary data would suggest, based on a selection of samples analysed from the weekend, that the novel variant from the UK is present in Ireland. However, given the timeline of the samples analysed, it would seem that the novel variant is not solely responsible for the recent increase in case numbers seen in Ireland.”

I hadn't seen that but the fact remains that they are unlikely to increase restrictions just yet until it appears the number of cases starts to escalate.

Time will tell. Can only hope it doesn't take hold and cause cases to jump.

leanin2019 · 24-12-2020 9:45am

caviardreams wrote: »

Looks like today might be the last day for gyms after all :(

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-government-urged-to-begin-six-week-lockdown-on-st-stephen-s-day-1.4444984

Another full 6 week lock down possibly on the horizon from stephen's day - we didn't even get 4 weeks! :mad::(

If they did this it would prove a big change of direction just a few days after announcing hospitality/personal services were the only ones to close.

caviardreams · 24-12-2020 9:49am

leanin2019 wrote: »

If they did this it would prove a big change of direction just a few days after announcing hospitality/personal services were the only ones to close.

I think there may be updated modelling figures yesterday, so new information I guess. But I agree it's a bit indecisive.

Gyms to Reopen 2021???

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