Gyms to Reopen 2021???

Black Sheep

Rosita wrote: »

Not clear what the difference is here? People need the childcare (all the better if it's free of course) to enable them to work. So it's the same thing isn't it?

I think he was being ironic.

There's a bad faith argument made that parents only want to avoid having to mind their children at home... But although that's likely a factor to at least some extent (Even if we love our kids...) the reality is that the bigger issue is people being unable to work either at home or as essential workers because suddenly the schools are closed.

Schools as free childcare is also a really odd way of thinking about schools. Clearly they're taxpayer funded so the 'free' thing is out the window one way or the other, but, also ... Isn't it just really offensive to teachers, as it's much more than just that going on? One thing about 2020 is that it has taught me that trying to get small children to read and write is a lot bloody harder than it looks :pac:

I think the fact that the schools have been open for the winter has been of economic significance but I would also say the fact that kids are being properly educated again is no small thing.

Rosita

givyjoe wrote: »

I really don't get obsession with sanitising weights, it's a complete waste of time considering you're sharing an enclosed space with many maskless individuals. Dont go licking your fingers before you sanitise your own hands, simple. It makes about as much sense as retail workers, or you, spraying down the butter shelf after you've had a rummage around.

You are the only one mentioning the word obsession. It takes 30 seconds using materials provided (why do they provide them if there's no point) It's more courtesy, decency, consideration for others, a statement that the most important thing in the gym is not you personally, a statement that you will visibly do your bit to keep gyms open, an acknowledgement of the possibility (and no doubt this is completely wrong) that infection might be spread by shared surfaces.

Bizarrely you mention why do it when you're already sharing an enclosed space with maskless individuals - that's a reason to clean surfaces not a reason to not do so. I am expected to clean surfaces in my work (and masks are mandatory there) - it's routine basic expectation. Can't see for the life of me why that should be different in a gym which by its nature is quite a tactile environment.

Rosita

Black Sheep wrote: »

I think he was being ironic.

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I get that. But the first comment alone would have made that point.

Rosita

Black Sheep wrote: »

Schools as free childcare is also a really odd way of thinking about schools. Clearly they're taxpayer funded so the 'free' thing is out the window one way or the other,

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You are in a sense equating childcare in a school setting with street-lighting, as in both are free at the point of use but ultimately funded by tax revenue. However the fact that there's a thriving private industry in the former is a significant difference. Someone who saves a few hundred euros per week because their child is in school might not consider free childcare a really odd way of thinking about schools.

Black Sheep

Rosita wrote: »

You are in a sense equating childcare in a school setting with street-lighting, as in both are free at the point of use but ultimately funded by tax revenue. However the fact that there's a thriving private industry in the former is a significant difference. Someone who saves a few hundred euros per week because their child is in school might not consider free childcare a really odd way of thinking about schools.

I don't think there is a 'thriving private industry' which is equivalent to our school system, actually. If you mean private child minding arrangements or similar, that's still a really reductionist way of thinking about what the purpose of a school is. Teachers educate children, which was the other point I was making, it's not just about the fact that it frees up parents to make economic contributions keeping the whole show on the road. But I think you've agreed, in the end, that schools are taxpayer funded so we've all paid to one extent or another whatever way we want to conceive of the purpose of it.

If the schools do close it might be that there will be people paying hundreds of euros in private childcare and lamenting that expenditure... But let's also spare a thought for the folks that just can't afford to pay and will have to take unpaid leave or quit their jobs.

Rosita

Black Sheep wrote: »

I don't think there is a 'thriving private industry' which is equivalent to our school system, actually. If you mean private child minding arrangements or similar, that's still a really reductionist way of thinking about what the purpose of a school is.

I wasn't commenting on the broader purpose of a school. I was merely dealing with the view that something publicly funded but free at the point of use is not regarded as 'free'. I think when contrasted with the cost of alternative childcare people do see it as free and I don't agree with you that it's an odd way to think about it. I'd say it's an understandable way to think.

DuffleBag

You only have to look on instagram at these fitness influencers flouting the advice on individual training. Someone else videoing them and vice versa. On the explore page there a guy called Gary Pineda in cork proudly showing clips of him and some other guy training push day. The mind boggles

Alf Veedersane

Rosita wrote: »

I get that. But the first comment alone would have made that point.

There are a lot of people that don't seem to understand the second part when they make a rather reductive argument around schools being open or not.

Thelonious Monk

DuffleBag wrote: »

You only have to look on instagram at these fitness influencers flouting the advice on individual training. Someone else videoing them and vice versa. On the explore page there a guy called Gary Pineda in cork proudly showing clips of him and some other guy training push day. The mind boggles

I wouldn't have thought instagram fitness influencers were in the least bit self absorbed ffs

FlubberJones

Just from the gym now, good few in there but Ben D is massive so no crowding... Couple of lads training together but quickly told not do so and they separated and trained alone. But the inevitable is that the place will close over the next day or so... shame

Coybig_

DuffleBag wrote: »

You only have to look on instagram at these fitness influencers flouting the advice on individual training. Someone else videoing them and vice versa. On the explore page there a guy called Gary Pineda in cork proudly showing clips of him and some other guy training push day. The mind boggles

His sister was part of attempted compensation fraud, I wouldnt worry about the likes of him or those that look up to him. Brain dead.

December2012

JeffKenna wrote: »

Yeah you're right I'd say. To be fair the increased hygiene in the gyms is great and hopefully it'll stay post covid. Fellas on a bike for a half hour going full throttle and giving it a light rub with a towel before the next persons jumps on almost makes me sick now thinking back.

yep same!!

hunter164

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I got what was probably my last session in this morning. Once again compliance terrible in the pool. Bunches of middle aged people congregated and chatting, i think they're all in an iron man club or something. I wish I could say gyms arent a problem but i keep seeing stupid stuff in Westwood.
Kids eduction is more important than most things so schools should always be the last things to close, gyms are a no brainer.

Westwood is full of wnakers that are just doing whatever they please and staff are completely and utterly useless.

If it wasn’t for the decent facilities I’d be long gone.

Coybig_

Coybig_ wrote: »

His sister was part of attempted compensation fraud, I wouldnt worry about the likes of him or those that look up to him. Brain dead.

She got a pay out when she was a kid so probably reckoned she was adept at it.... Fair play to the judge

Kamu

Augeo wrote: »

She got a pay out when she was a kid so probably reckoned she was adept at it.... Fair play to the judge

I found the article, she posted on Instagram of her in the gym very soon after that accident, though she 'hurt' her lower back.

Chancer.

Yeah embarrassing stuff TBH.

ongarite

Home training again until 30th January at earliest.

LLMMLL

Anyone know where I could get a foldable bench that can be inclined?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

**** sakes. Raging.

OmegaGene

OmegaGene wrote: »

Looks like the gym is shagged for now folks, I was only getting back to where I was on deadlifts and squats but what can we do
Few fitness bits and bobs in aldi and Lidl tomorrow and home store normally have a spinning bike in at half price if I remember rightly
Anyone know if the bike in home store is any good, I think they have 2 types one with an 18kg and the other with a 21kg flywheel
Herself is thinking about getting one

I think the 20kg is supposed to be better because it is belt driven and not chain driven. Was trying to research them today
I ended up ordering this one which I think might be better again but I really don't know much about them

https://www.fitnessequipmentireland.ie/product/bolt-h2-spin-bike/

billyhead

When are they closing. Is it from mid night?

ongarite

LLMMLL wrote: »

Anyone know where I could get a foldable bench that can be inclined?

https://www.fitnessequipmentireland.ie/product/bolt-601-bench/
Not cheap if you really want it.

FlubberJones

Ugh... another "last gym session before a lockdown".. I only have limited comebacks left in me.
Hopefully the plebs that clambered all over each other on household visits over christmas are happy.

billyhead

Closed from 6pm tomorrow.

carrollsno1

A joke really, expecting essential workers to work through this pandemic and not be allowed the use of private leisure facilities or even go for a drink one night even. Evenings are sh#gged now and its too dark to go for a walk in the evenings here now. But sue enough fast food outlets are allowed to stay open, to .e it looks like the government are trying to ruin both our mental and physical health with thsse new restrictions. Surely if the gyms and pools had a plan in place and it was enforced and inspectef regularly they could keep running.

Heat_Wave

billyhead wrote: »

Closed from 6pm tomorrow.

Where are you seeing this update?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

carrollsno1 wrote: »

A joke really, expecting essential workers to work through this pandemic and not be allowed the use of private leisure facilities or even go for a drink one night even. Evenings are sh#gged now and its too dark to go for a walk in the evenings here now. But sue enough fast food outlets are allowed to stay open, to .e it looks like the government are trying to ruin both our mental and physical health with thsse new restrictions. Surely if the gyms and pools had a plan in place and it was enforced and inspectef regularly they could keep running.

Exactly this. 12 hour shifts in a hospital and expected to just go home and stare at the four walls. Sickened by this yet again.

Alf Veedersane

carrollsno1 wrote: »

A joke really, expecting essential workers to work through this pandemic and not be allowed the use of private leisure facilities or even go for a drink one night even. Evenings are sh#gged now and its too dark to go for a walk in the evenings here now. But sue enough fast food outlets are allowed to stay open, to .e it looks like the government are trying to ruin both our mental and physical health with thsse new restrictions. Surely if the gyms and pools had a plan in place and it was enforced and inspectef regularly they could keep running.

People outside of essential workers are working as well.

People have been given an inch and taken a mile, time and time again. This isn't just about the government using a hammer to crack a nut.

No one that uses gyms is happy about the restrictions but when you see what happens when they're open the phrase "this is why we can't have nice things" comes to mind.

Thelonious Monk

As I've said a few times in this thread, people are all over in each other in my gym, which is the biggest in Ireland I think. I can't imagine what it's like in some of the others.
How do you expect to keep them open, especially when everyone would be clambering to join in January, especially if there was nothing else to do?
If you're surprised by this you haven't been paying attention, new strain and highest numbers yet. I'm just happy I get one more session tomorrow.

LLMMLL

ongarite wrote: »

https://www.fitnessequipmentireland.ie/product/bolt-601-bench/
Not cheap if you really want it.

Thanks I really do

j@utis

Heat_Wave wrote: »

Where are you seeing this update?

By the end of business day tomorrow.

FlubberJones

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

As I've said a few times in this thread, people are all over in each other in my gym, which is the biggest in Ireland I think. I can't imagine what it's like in some of the others.
How do you expect to keep them open, especially when everyone would be clambering to join in January, especially if there was nothing else to do?
If you're surprised by this you haven't been paying attention, new strain and highest numbers yet. I'm just happy I get one more session tomorrow.

Not in the slightest surprised, f*cked off but not surprised. The Gov' thinking people were going to be sensible are the idiots here.

dashoonage

FlubberJones wrote: »

Not in the slightest surprised, f*cked off but not surprised. The Gov' thinking people were going to be sensible are the idiots here.

eh no im pretty sure the people not being sensible are the idiots.

Esse85

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

As I've said a few times in this thread, people are all over in each other in my gym, which is the biggest in Ireland I think. I can't imagine what it's like in some of the others.
How do you expect to keep them open, especially when everyone would be clambering to join in January, especially if there was nothing else to do?
If you're surprised by this you haven't been paying attention, new strain and highest numbers yet. I'm just happy I get one more session tomorrow.

I doubt the numbers have gone up due to gym behaviour.

I'd be sure it's these same idiots you describe that are careless and wreckless outside the gym too which has caused a surge in cases.

How you do anything is how you do everything.

Thelonious Monk

Esse85 wrote: »

I doubt the numbers have gone up due to gym behaviour.

I'd be sure it's these same idiots you describe that are careless and wreckless outside the gym too which has caused a surge in cases.

How you do anything is how you do everything.

I agree yeah but they couldn't have made allowances for gyms if everything else had to close really.
Anyway, another f*cking month of isolation and jogging around like a twat. Ugh.

The chan chan man

F U C K

T H I S

The chan chan man

The bodypart that gets the greatest benefit when I use the gym is my head. Everyone I know in the gym does it for their head, the body is secondary... Its really going to take its toll this time round. January is hard enough to stay positive in as it

The White Wolf

Esse85 wrote: »

I doubt the numbers have gone up due to gym behaviour.

I'd be sure it's these same idiots you describe that are careless and wreckless outside the gym too which has caused a surge in cases.

How you do anything is how you do everything.

Can only speak for my own gym and say not one case has arisen. It's a small gym where everyone knows each other so we'd know if someone had picked something up. People generally trust each other in there not to act the maggot outside of the gym.

It's trust, in general, that society is badly lacking. We're letting bunch of paranoid heads dictate us consistently into the harshest lockdowns across Europe and it's a joke.

nullzero

I train first thing in the morning every day. When I'm in the gym I'm surrounded by others who are getting their training done and then have to get to work (or work from home these days) and it's very much a case of everyone adhering to social distancing and keeping equipment clean and training alone.

In circumstances where you have groups of people training together and not adhering to guidelines Gyms need to be taking the bull by the horns and ensuring people are training alone. It might not be within the comfort zone of a lot of gym staff to do so but it needs to happen.

I know for certain that my p1ss will be boiling over the next couple of months as we see videos of gobsh1tes skulling take away pints in huge crowds in town every night with Gardai walking past them enjoying the craic.

Esse85

nullzero wrote: »

In circumstances where you have groups of people training together and not adhering to guidelines Gyms need to be taking the bull by the horns and ensuring people are training alone. It might not be within the comfort zone of a lot of gym staff to do so but it needs to happen.

Can only speak about my gym, the staff are mainly young lads, 19-20 years old, too shy to pull members up on training in 2s and 3s or telling them wipe down equipment if they see users not doing it.

I thinks gyms suffer from behaviour of people outside the gyms rather than in it.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

The chan chan man wrote: »

The bodypart that gets the greatest benefit when I use the gym is my head. Everyone I know in the gym does it for their head, the body is secondary... Its really going to take its toll this time round. January is hard enough to stay positive in as it

Decision to close gyms will put bodies into rivers around the country. I've no doubt.

completedit

Are people retarded? The virus is a contagious disease. It's not people taking the piss; it's normal human interactions that lend itself to viruses spreading, a virus. The virus spreads, that's what happens when people interact. Doesn't matter if its dancing on tables or having a coffee around the place with different people.

is_that_so

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I agree yeah but they couldn't have made allowances for gyms if everything else had to close really.
Anyway, another f*cking month of isolation and jogging around like a twat. Ugh.

Time for Lidl and some free apps!

https://www.lidl.ie/en/c/exercise-equipment/c1391/w2

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

A few novelty items there from Aldi and Lidl.

johnnyskeleton

is_that_so wrote: »

Time for Lidl and some free apps!

https://www.lidl.ie/en/c/exercise-equipment/c1391/w2

They are selling two water bottles. One is plain for 3.99. The other says "life is better at the gym" and costs 6.99. At least they have a sense of humour

Alf Veedersane

Hunky Monster wrote: »

A few novelty items there from Aldi and Lidl.

And they are likely more than a lot of people have. This is a needs must scenario.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

And they are likely more than a lot of people have. This is a needs must scenario.

The bits and bobs they're selling are for the January joiners.

Alf Veedersane

Hunky Monster wrote: »

The bits and bobs they're selling are for the January joiners.

Plenty of people that use gyms don't have any equipment at home so an wheels, kettlebells, sandbags etc will help them.

Sneer at them if you want but that's just a fact.

carrollsno1

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Decision to close gyms will put bodies into rivers around the country. I've no doubt.

A few pulled out today ive just heard coming out of the pool this evening, only one was reported in local media.

Fiftyfilthy

Lot of gyms will remain open like the last lockdown, only certain people get the special invites....