Electric Picnic 2021 - Cancelled :( No Ticket Sales / Requests

drunkmonkey · 25-05-2021 10:43am

endainoz wrote: »

It's definitely relevant, festival republic will have loads of data gathered from these test events so they can apply that data here.

They'll want to do their own tests here, can't see them using another country's data they haven't the whole way through this.

They also say people test at home, I thought they would do it coming out of the car park or similar. It's good they're trusting people though, again not a hope our gang will.

PabloAndRoy · 25-05-2021 10:46am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They'll want to do their own tests here, can't see them using another country's data they haven't the whole way through this.

They also say people test at home, I thought they would do it coming out of the car park or similar. It's good they're trusting people though, again not a hope our gang will.

Oh don't you know we need the so called "abundance of caution", even though deaths are heading towards zero and the hospitals are not under pressure.

endainoz · 25-05-2021 10:52am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They'll want to do their own tests here, can't see them using another country's data they haven't the whole way through this.

They also say people test at home, I thought they would do it coming out of the car park or similar. It's good they're trusting people though, again not a hope our gang will.

It's important to note that the testing will only be for people not vaccinated though, that's how I understand it anyway so it wouldn't be the huge task of testing 80k people at once.

Also on a side note, I don't think this has been mentioned before, but say all events are capped for this year at like 50k. Obviously would rule out EP, but would there be any interest in doing EP at reduced capacity over two separate weekends with the same lineup? Would be like Coachella or something similar. Logistics wise, it would be relatively easy with a mostly Irish lineup. My main concern would be that the site may not hold up particularly if there is bad weather.

It could possibly be a runner though if festival republic are determined to get something going this year.

PabloAndRoy · 25-05-2021 11:02am

endainoz wrote: »

It's important to note that the testing will only be for people not vaccinated though, that's how I understand it anyway so it wouldn't be the huge task of testing 80k people at once.

Also on a side note, I don't think this has been mentioned before, but say all events are capped for this year at like 50k. Obviously would rule out EP, but would there be any interest in doing EP at reduced capacity over two separate weekends with the same lineup? Would be like Coachella or something similar. Logistics wise, it would be relatively easy with a mostly Irish lineup. My main concern would be that the site may not hold up particularly if there is bad weather.

It could possibly be a runner though if festival republic are determined to get something going this year.

I like this idea ... maybe I will tell the missus that our second ticket is a fake and I can go both weekends only revealing the truth on the thursday of the 2nd weekend sent by text as I drive towards Stradbally.

Poorside · 25-05-2021 11:08am

Primavera line up looks decent, gives me a bit of hope that we'll see bands touring soon.

Peterd66 · 25-05-2021 11:20am

endainoz wrote:

It could possibly be a runner though if festival republic are determined to get something going this year.

I had thought about this option as well, and would allow them sell additional tickets. Given most of the acts are likely to be UK/Ireland based it could be an option.

Will the UK be part of the EU travel passport system?

everlast75 · 25-05-2021 11:22am

Anyone have an appetite to head to the UK for a festival this year (once vaccinated of course)

endainoz · 25-05-2021 11:26am

everlast75 wrote: »

Anyone have an appetite to head to the UK for a festival this year (once vaccinated of course)

If I was a bit closer I'd definitely think about going to Belfast, but I'd prefer to keep my money here where it's needed for now. (Yes I'm aware festival republic is a UK owned company, but I'd be spending a lot more than the price of the tickets)

melekalikimaka · 25-05-2021 11:55am

everlast75 wrote: »

Anyone have an appetite to head to the UK for a festival this year (once vaccinated of course)

plans for Austin City Limits in Texas later in year , and anything I can once vaccinated in the uk

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 11:55am

Tago Mago wrote: »

290k jabs administered last week I think.

3.75M adults in the South of this island.

85% being touted for herd immunity, and in all likelihood as much as you're going to get to take the vaccine (best uptake in Europe): 3,187,500.

The eight weeks encompassing July — EP at the current rate: 2.32M jabs.

Poll in the Irish Times yesterday has 4% of over-16s (the vaccine demographic) saying they won't take it and 7% uncertain. I'd say the uptake will be over 90%.

85% are expected to have a least one dose by the end of July. Sooner I believe. That combined with testing enables events to take place, the one proviso being the possible lack of protection from variants for those without a second jab.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 11:58am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

They'll want to do their own tests here, can't see them using another country's data they haven't the whole way through this.

They also say people test at home, I thought they would do it coming out of the car park or similar. It's good they're trusting people though, again not a hope our gang will.

Why would you trust people rather than science. Tests need to be done pre-entry. Can't see many here objecting to an extra 45/60 min wait if they can get to EP.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 11:59am

endainoz wrote: »

It's important to note that the testing will only be for people not vaccinated though, that's how I understand it anyway so it wouldn't be the huge task of testing 80k people at once.

Also on a side note, I don't think this has been mentioned before, but say all events are capped for this year at like 50k. Obviously would rule out EP, but would there be any interest in doing EP at reduced capacity over two separate weekends with the same lineup? Would be like Coachella or something similar. Logistics wise, it would be relatively easy with a mostly Irish lineup. My main concern would be that the site may not hold up particularly if there is bad weather.

It could possibly be a runner though if festival republic are determined to get something going this year.

I believe it's for all as you can still have the virus or be a carrier if vaccinated.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 12:09pm

endainoz wrote: »

If I was a bit closer I'd definitely think about going to Belfast, but I'd prefer to keep my money here where it's needed for now. (Yes I'm aware festival republic is a UK owned company, but I'd be spending a lot more than the price of the tickets)

Same here. I'd like to put my money into local venues - for the next year i've stuff booked for the Roisin Dubh, Dolans, Button Factory, NCH (just got Tindersticks tickets), Vicar St, Galway Arts Fest and elsewhere. I want those venues to survive and continue to be able to put on acts.

PabloAndRoy · 25-05-2021 12:16pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Why would you trust people rather than science. Tests need to be done pre-entry. Can't see many here objecting to an extra 45/60 min wait if they can get to EP.

It depends on whether you call risk management a science. Unfortunately we seem to be taking a "zero risk or nothing" approach at the expense of prioritising a return to normal society (with reduced risk).

Personally I will happily take a test on site if it means I can spend three days outdoors listening to live music.

The Davestator · 25-05-2021 12:44pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I believe it's for all as you can still have the virus or be a carrier if vaccinated.

More and more evidence is proving this to be false. Yes, you may still carry the virus, but nowhere near the load required to infect someone else. Even more so, when the other person is vaccinated too.

BigMo1 · 25-05-2021 12:50pm

The Davestator wrote: »

More and more evidence is proving this to be false. Yes, you may still carry the virus, but nowhere near the load required to infect someone else. Even more so, when the other person is vaccinated too.

Israel has basically proved this. Full economy open and cases are tiny.

Stillill42 · 25-05-2021 1:09pm

Great work lads. Only a matter of time before an elite panel of the great and good from this thread are sitting in front of the cameras explaining to the general public why EP will be going ahead. Call it BEPHET. BigMo on graphs. Who's our Tony Holohan?

everlast75 · 25-05-2021 1:10pm

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1397153027493093376?s=20

Fairly motoring now with the vaccines..

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 1:26pm

PabloAndRoy wrote: »

It depends on whether you call risk management a science. Unfortunately we seem to be taking a "zero risk or nothing" approach at the expense of prioritising a return to normal society (with reduced risk).

Personally I will happily take a test on site if it means I can spend three days outdoors listening to live music.

Not with the scheduled plans for re-opening.

sweetie · 25-05-2021 1:26pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Same here. I'd like to put my money into local venues - for the next year i've stuff booked for the Roisin Dubh, Dolans, Button Factory, NCH (just got Tindersticks tickets), Vicar St, Galway Arts Fest and elsewhere. I want those venues to survive and continue to be able to put on acts.

got Tindersticks too. Bit of a jump in price from €36 pre-pandemic to €50! But a bucket list band for me.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 1:30pm

The Davestator wrote: »

More and more evidence is proving this to be false. Yes, you may still carry the virus, but nowhere near the load required to infect someone else. Even more so, when the other person is vaccinated too.

The simple truth is that nobody knows how much of a transmission risk a vaccinated person is. The evidence isn't yet available.

Therefore if you're vaccinated but a carrier and 30% of the people at a festival are unvaccinated then it's likely you'll be passing the load on. Until this belief is discredited there'll be resistance to large scale events unless the mass vaccination is complete, or very close to completion.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 1:38pm

BigMo1 wrote: »

Israel has basically proved this. Full economy open and cases are tiny.

Proved that there is no transmissions when people are vaccinated? Simply not true. There are restrictions still in place as well as very restrictive tourist numbers and from particular countries. The same will happen here.

There is no proof on anything. It will come retrospectively when vaccinations are complete and the effect of the variants is clear.

.

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 1:39pm

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1397153027493093376?s=20

Fairly motoring now with the vaccines..

Those figures are off. There were 300,000 vaccines last week and another 300,000 scheduled for this week.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0524/1223577-ireland-covid-vaccines/

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 1:43pm

sweetie wrote: »

got Tindersticks too. Bit of a jump in price from €36 pre-pandemic to €50! But a bucket list band for me.

Yeah, I was surprised by the hike but that may be the future in terms of extra costs for UK bands post-Brexit. But it's a perfect venue for a great band so unmissable for me.

They've played EP twice, superb the first time (2008 I think) but noise interference the second time and that doesn't work with them.

BigMo1 · 25-05-2021 2:08pm

Stillill42 wrote: »

Great work lads. Only a matter of time before an elite panel of the great and good from this thread are sitting in front of the cameras explaining to the general public why EP will be going ahead. Call it BEPHET. BigMo on graphs. Who's our Tony Holohan?

I'll brush up on the Excel skills, but anything to get us over the line.

drunkmonkey · 25-05-2021 3:46pm

sweetie wrote: »

got Tindersticks too. Bit of a jump in price from €36 pre-pandemic to €50! But a bucket list band for me.

Are they allowed I used a disposable barbecue for breakfast one morning and a swat team arrived telling me I couldn't use it, they did let me finish cooking the sausages though.

drunkmonkey · 25-05-2021 5:02pm

https://twitter.com/JamesOConnorTD/status/1397146096766525442?s=20

Seathrun66 · 25-05-2021 10:24pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JamesOConnorTD/status/1397146096766525442?s=20

So first Festival Republic become the good guys. And now Fianna Fáil. How long til Gemma & John join our club?

Fatfrog · 25-05-2021 11:46pm

Fear not! This will solve everything!!

https://www.joe.ie/life-style/dogs-can-detect-covid-second-722674

endainoz · 26-05-2021 12:01am

Fatfrog wrote: »

Fear not! This will solve everything!!

https://www.joe.ie/life-style/dogs-can-detect-covid-second-722674

Ha there will be plenty sweating on the way into EP with sniffer dogs around the place!

Tago Mago · 26-05-2021 3:30am

So... we are none-the-wiser after the young FF'er intervention, then?

Reded · 26-05-2021 6:55am

Stay hopeful people! I work EP every year & our team have started to prepare risk assessment etc. We got the call!!! There are a lot of people working in the background to make it happen so keep everything crossed but it appears full steam ahead in planning at least!

everlast75 · 26-05-2021 6:59am

Reded wrote: »

Stay hopeful people! I work EP every year & our team have started to prepare risk assessment etc. We got the call!!! There are a lot of people working in the background to make it happen so keep everything crossed but it appears full steam ahead in planning at least!

*Fudge the numbers to make sure it goes ahead!*

Haha- don't do that. I'm just kidding....

*no I'm not - fudge the numbers!*

Furious-Red · 26-05-2021 9:12am

I see download Festival are doing a trial 10k festival pilot thing soon. Could be interesting to see how it turns out

Stillill42 · 26-05-2021 10:31am

Reded wrote: »

Stay hopeful people! I work EP every year & our team have started to prepare risk assessment etc. We got the call!!! There are a lot of people working in the background to make it happen so keep everything crossed but it appears full steam ahead in planning at least!

Well that's great to hear. I was thinking somebody had to know whether preparations were underway. If there's any way we could organise a media blackout on this sort of stuff, that would be great.

RTE news : Thousands to be tested after Melbourne stadium alert

http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0526/1223931-coronavirus-australia/

bodhrandude · 26-05-2021 4:26pm

Stillill42 wrote: »

Well that's great to hear. I was thinking somebody had to know whether preparations were underway. If there's any way we could organise a media blackout on this sort of stuff, that would be great.

RTE news : Thousands to be tested after Melbourne stadium alert

http://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0526/1223931-coronavirus-australia/

Typical RTE scaremongering. worst they done was getting rid of No Disco and Under Ether music programmes, a thoroughly useless bunch, even their trad programmes these days are cringe worthy.

Seathrun66 · 26-05-2021 5:54pm

bodhrandude wrote: »

Typical RTE scaremongering. worst they done was getting rid of No Disco and Under Ether music programmes, a thoroughly useless bunch, even their trad programmes these days are cringe worthy.

Not really scaremongering though BD. Victoria could be heading for lockdown and other Australian states are closing their borders. The difference there is that they've gotten a little complacent after successes and they also don't have the vaccines. We're speeding ahead here and likely that 90% of the adult population will have at least one vaccine by the time of EP.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/26/victoria-not-ruling-out-tougher-restrictions-after-recording-six-new-covid-cases

scruff monkey · 26-05-2021 9:22pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

Not really scaremongering though BD. Victoria could be heading for lockdown and other Australian states are closing their borders. The difference there is that they've gotten a little complacent after successes and they also don't have the vaccines.

De brudder lives in Sydney, been saying that the roll out there is an utter joke.

In other news, the manics have their autumn tour dates up and a nice EP sized hole in them.

Seathrun66 · 26-05-2021 9:42pm

And now this today. The lobbying continues.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/live-and-not-dangerous-ireland-needs-an-ambitious-plan-to-revive-live-music-1.4574740%3fmode=amp

drunkmonkey · 26-05-2021 10:00pm

I don't think Sharon has spent a weekend in Jimmy Hendrix...

patch · 27-05-2021 9:25am

https://www.pukkelpop.be/en/update/
With the launch of the EU Green Pass in July - it should be fairly 'easy' to manage on arrival.[/quote]

That would be great but I think the EU Green Pass is being strictly used for travel.

Fatfrog · 27-05-2021 9:35am

Daft Punk! Didn't realise they had this many borrowed samples!!

https://youtu.be/7MhmnKUOxB4

rubick · 27-05-2021 9:56am

Not sure of the system you guys have in the Republic, but in the North we're given a card with the date of both vaccinations on it, wonder if that will be enough to satisfy entry. Failing that, herself has bought some test kits and I will happily stick it wherever they want on arrival at the magic gate.

everlast75 · 27-05-2021 10:09am

rubick wrote: »

Not sure of the system you guys have in the Republic, but in the North we're given a card with the date of both vaccinations on it, wonder if that will be enough to satisfy entry. Failing that, herself has bought some test kits and I will happily stick it wherever they want on arrival at the magic gate.

Agreed.

A 10e surcharge on an antigen test, whatever they want.

Even a full body cavity search wouldn't put me off going

27-05-2021 11:46am

whatever happens there is no price on the hope i have had this past two weeks on this thread. Its really giving me such a lift

scruff monkey · 27-05-2021 11:54am

Getting stabbed with the pfizer on sunday, happy fcuking days!

endainoz · 27-05-2021 12:25pm

New pub and restaurant rules 'savaged' by TDs as Tánaiste indicates further changes into the summer https://jrnl.ie/5448602

And rightfully so, the fact that live music isn't going to be allowed in indoor pubs is ridiculous. This government goes on about helping artists and doing pilot events soon yet they won't allow them to get some work. Fcuking disgraceful, but with this backlash hopefully they'll backtrack on it.

BigMo1 · 27-05-2021 12:33pm

endainoz wrote: »

New pub and restaurant rules 'savaged' by TDs as Tánaiste indicates further changes into the summer https://jrnl.ie/5448602

And rightfully so, the fact that live music isn't going to be allowed in indoor pubs is ridiculous. This government goes on about helping artists and doing pilot events soon yet they won't allow them to get some work. Fcuking disgraceful, but with this backlash hopefully they'll backtrack on it.

It really is disgraceful. We have our rearranged wedding date in July and the news yesterday that no live music is allowed was incredibly upsetting, to the point that we will now probably reschedule (for the fourth time).

PabloAndRoy · 27-05-2021 1:10pm

BigMo1 wrote: »

It really is disgraceful. We have our rearranged wedding date in July and the news yesterday that no live music is allowed was incredibly upsetting, to the point that we will now probably reschedule (for the fourth time).

Its ridiculous. How could live music make any difference whatsoever?

PabloAndRoy · 27-05-2021 1:26pm

rubick wrote: »

Not sure of the system you guys have in the Republic, but in the North we're given a card with the date of both vaccinations on it, wonder if that will be enough to satisfy entry. Failing that, herself has bought some test kits and I will happily stick it wherever they want on arrival at the magic gate.

We do this also. My card has just one date .. but it's Janssen, so I am all done :-)

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