London Bridge Incident - mod warning in OP

Silent Running · 29-11-2019 4:38pm

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Ah stop....
Come on the **** you have NO idea and nor do the cops to what extent this chap was armed. Why take a chance when its clearly proven minutes earlier this person is out to kill.

Does he have a firearm?
Does ha have a bomb vest?
is he a suicide bomber?

Shoot the vermin. This is not some innocent by stander being apprehended resisting arrest this is a man out to cause serious pain.

They just cancelled Christmas for him.

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:40pm

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Ah stop....
Come on the **** you have NO idea and nor do the cops to what extent this chap was armed. Why take a chance when its clearly proven minutes earlier this person is out to kill.

Does he have a firearm?
Does ha have a bomb vest?
is he a suicide bomber?

Shoot the vermin. This is not some innocent by stander being apprehended resisting arrest this is a man out to cause serious pain.

Didn't look like there was a "hands up" request. Pulled the other lad off and then bang.

If we was "just" carrying a knife, and from what i could see, he was on the deck, i'm not sure deadly force may have been required in this particular situation.

But no doubt we'll find out soon enough

29-11-2019 4:43pm

Let's not forget that Corbyn doesn't want these attackers dead.

He didn't want Al Baghdadi dead.

He said it was a "tragedy" that Osama bin Laden was killed instead of arrested.

He frequently met Islamic jihadists throughout his career, and always sides with the UK's enemies.

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

dadad231 · 29-11-2019 4:45pm

Now now now ... do not assume the attacker is Muslim, because the leftists will call you "racist".

And then stay quiet when you are prooved correct - AGAIN!!!

suicide_circus · 29-11-2019 4:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's not forget that Corbyn doesn't want these attackers dead.

He didn't want Al Baghdadi dead.

He said it was a "tragedy" that Osama bin Laden was killed instead of arrested.

He frequently met Islamic jihadists throughout his career, and always sides with the UK's enemies.

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

#jezzbollah

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:47pm

dadad231 wrote: »

Now now now ... do not assume the attacker is Muslim, because the leftists will call you "racist".

And then stay quiet when you are prooved correct - AGAIN!!!

WOW

Until it IS proven, try not to surmise about the identity of the alleged attacker

dreamers75 · 29-11-2019 4:48pm

dadad231 wrote: »

Now now now ... do not assume the attacker is Muslim, because the leftists will call you "racist".

And then stay quiet when you are prooved correct - AGAIN!!!

100+ stabbings in London this year, Muslims do all of them?

Or do we only comment on those?

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:49pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

100+ stabbings in London this year, Muslims do all of them?

Or do we only comment on those?

There was more than a hint of racism off his post.

I was going to point out that the majority of fatal stabbings in London are carried out by black males under the age of 25.

But WHERE is the outrage

seamus · 29-11-2019 4:50pm

Shooting on the ground is going to be an issue.

We all know the London Met don't have a good record when it comes to proper discharge of firearms against people with the wrong skin colour.

This one won't help given that the video is already in the public domain and no amount of false statements from the officers involved can change that.

super_furry · 29-11-2019 4:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

Grand so, we won't vote for him.

Oh wait........

29-11-2019 4:50pm

dreamers75 wrote: »

100+ stabbings in London this year, Muslims do all of them?

Or do we only comment on those?

Nice try.

99 times out of 100, mass stabbing attacks against random members of the public are carried out by bearded Islamic lunatics.

What you just said is as ridiculous as saying "not every car crash is caused by a Muslim" in response to an Islamic jihadist driving a car into a Christmas Market.

29-11-2019 4:51pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

WTF has grenfell got to do with this situation?

Just pointing out that appeals to authority aren't always useful.

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Ah stop....
Come on the **** you have NO idea and nor do the cops to what extent this chap was armed. Why take a chance when its clearly proven minutes earlier this person is out to kill.

I'm not sure what that has to do with what I posted. I didn't say the cop should be in for a bad time.

Does he have a firearm?
Does ha have a bomb vest?
is he a suicide bomber?

Many people have been saved by bystanders jumping armed people. If anything I think it's a pity the cop was recorded shooting him.

Shoot the vermin. This is not some innocent by stander being apprehended resisting arrest this is a man out to cause serious pain.

I don't have a gun.
I was posting about bystanders, not cops.

BDI · 29-11-2019 4:51pm

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

Won't be going to London anytime soon.

London probably has 50 million visitors a year(mad guess out of blue) ten people killed in terrorist attacks would not even register. More people probably killed by tractors in Norway last year. Is Norway off the cards too?

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nice try.

99 times out of 100, mass stabbing attacks against random members of the public are carried out by bearded Islamic lunatics.

What you just said is as ridiculous as saying "not every car crash is caused by a Muslim" in response to an Islamic jihadist driving a car into a Christmas Market.

I'd be really interested to have a look at where you got these fairly damning statistics

seamus · 29-11-2019 4:53pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I'd be really interested to have a look at where you got these fairly damning statistics

You wouldn't. It's very tight and smells of poo.

Somedaythefire · 29-11-2019 4:53pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's not forget that Corbyn doesn't want these attackers dead.

He didn't want Al Baghdadi dead.

He said it was a "tragedy" that Osama bin Laden was killed instead of arrested.

He frequently met Islamic jihadists throughout his career, and always sides with the UK's enemies.

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

why are you soapboxing about this on an Irish forum?

dadad231 · 29-11-2019 4:53pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

I'd be really interested to have a look at where you got these fairly damning statistics

People like you are part of the problem, you make me ****ing sick .

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:54pm

seamus wrote: »

You wouldn't. It's very tight and smells of poo.

Him and his mate liking each others post have a clear agenda it seems

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:55pm

dadad231 wrote: »

People like you are part of the problem, you make me ****ing sick .

How's that? Elaborate

RocketRaccoon · 29-11-2019 4:56pm

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

Tacitus Kilgore · 29-11-2019 4:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's not forget that Corbyn doesn't want these attackers dead.

He didn't want Al Baghdadi dead.

He said it was a "tragedy" that Osama bin Laden was killed instead of arrested.

He frequently met Islamic jihadists throughout his career, and always sides with the UK's enemies.

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

Who's we ?

Hector Savage · 29-11-2019 4:56pm

I don't want to place any blame here, but I worry this is a signs of things to come, probably a far right nutter that has been radicalised by Trump and Nigel Farage did this.

Hector Savage · 29-11-2019 4:57pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

It's woke !!!

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:57pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

Who's done this?

Somedaythefire · 29-11-2019 4:57pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

Who's doing that?

seamus · 29-11-2019 4:58pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

Who's doing it?

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 4:58pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

I don't want to place any blame here, but I worry this is a signs of things to come, probably a far right nutter that has been radicalised by Trump and Nigel Farage did this.

No, it's been established in this thread that it's a muslim. It's always a muslim

29-11-2019 4:59pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Who's done this?

The point is that it's a very subtle defence of Islamic jihadism to say that "oh we shouldn't assume attacks are Islamic-related", when clearly they are.

It's a form of denial.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 29-11-2019 5:00pm

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

That didn't originate there, its a known response if you have ever worked in a combat role.

Its a new one to me, must watch the movie.

Nice shooting, well done Mr Cop

Deebles McBeebles · 29-11-2019 5:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

99 times out of 100, mass stabbing attacks against random members of the public are carried out by bearded Islamic lunatics.

Deleted User wrote: »

The point is that it's a very subtle defence of Islamic jihadism to say that "oh we shouldn't assume attacks are Islamic-related", when clearly they are.

It's a form of denial.

Those posts are a form of bullsh*t.

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 5:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The point is that it's a very subtle defence of Islamic jihadism to say that "oh we shouldn't assume attacks are Islamic-related", when clearly they are.

It's a form of denial.

WTF are you on about?

Hector Savage · 29-11-2019 5:05pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

No, it's been established in this thread that it's a muslim. It's always a muslim

Nonsense!

It's the far right, they are the biggest global threat to the security of the world right now.

I know this because the guardian and BBC have told me this.
Some things to blame here.
Donald Trump
Nigel Farage
White men!!!!

super_furry · 29-11-2019 5:05pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Defend the terrorist, why do people on boards constantly do this?

Where is that happening?

super_furry · 29-11-2019 5:07pm

Thank god these lunatics don’t have access to guns. Can you imagine how many more people would have been hurt or killed if he had something like an AR 15?

Cordell · 29-11-2019 5:08pm

seamus wrote: »

Who's doing it?

No one.
Some will try to defend that particular ideology shared by the terrorists and non terrorists just in case some feelings get hurt. Only that particular ideology, when it happens to be the other one, then it's all fair game.

ChikiChiki · 29-11-2019 5:12pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Brave, but stupid nonetheless. Cops will tell you never to intervene

Flawed logic. Not stupid at all. I'd like to think most people would act similarly I'm such a situation. The alternative is far worse.

Someone mentioned Grenfell when I read your post. I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes given the context of a situation the authority advice is not necessarily the best option.

sReq | uTeK · 29-11-2019 5:15pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Didn't look like there was a "hands up" request. Pulled the other lad off and then bang.

If we was "just" carrying a knife, and from what i could see, he was on the deck, i'm not sure deadly force may have been required in this particular situation.

But no doubt we'll find out soon enough

WTF.... you're taking that from the audio on a mobile phone 100 metres away. For all you know the police officer has been continually asking him to stop struggling and resisting. In the video he's still struggling with the public apprehending him.

Ye, lets process him, seek insanity, cost the tax payer a couple of million over a 20 year period of psych evals only to be released as a reformed prisoner who's found god and offend again.

Shoot the vermin.

Beasty · 29-11-2019 5:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The point is that it's a very subtle defence of Islamic jihadism to say that "oh we shouldn't assume attacks are Islamic-related", when clearly they are.

It's a form of denial.

You have no more idea than any of us as to who it was. You can speculate as much as you wish elsewhere, but not on this site

And that applies to everyone. Once details are confirmed feel free to discuss them, but do so civilly and stay on topic. Do not try and bring the likes of Johnson and Corbyn into this unless it's commenting on specific references to this incident

Stevieluvsye · 29-11-2019 5:17pm

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

WTF.... you're taking that from the audio on a mobile phone 100 metres away. For all you know the police officer has been continually asking him to stop struggling and resisting. In the video he's still struggling with the public apprehending him.

Ye, lets process him, seek insanity, cost the tax payer a couple of million over a 20 year period of psych evals only to be released as a reformed prisoner who's found god and offend again.

Shoot the vermin.

But that's just it, nobody knows yet.

I didn't lay claim to knowing either. I made an assumption based on what i saw in that video. The cop could be a Hero.

We'll know soon enough no doubt

29-11-2019 5:18pm

Are there 2 people left on the ground after the cops pull the fella up and he goes to the right?

https://twitter.com/imamofpeace/status/1200425389618712576?s=21

thegreengoblin · 29-11-2019 5:22pm

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

Won't be going to London anytime soon.

Good. More room on the tube when I go over and have a great time like I always do.

Sir Oxman · 29-11-2019 5:24pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Let's not forget that Corbyn doesn't want these attackers dead.

He didn't want Al Baghdadi dead.

He said it was a "tragedy" that Osama bin Laden was killed instead of arrested.

He frequently met Islamic jihadists throughout his career, and always sides with the UK's enemies.

Johnson needs to play this situation to his advantage. We cannot have Jeremy Corbyn in No. 10.

You want the head honchos alive if possible in most circumstances.

That is sensible if you're intelligent.

And the bin Laden 'buried at sea' thing was a tad too convenient.

tigger123 · 29-11-2019 5:25pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Are there 2 people left on the ground after the cops pull the fella up and he goes to the right?

https://twitter.com/imamofpeace/status/1200425389618712576?s=21

What the hell must happen in a persons life that they end up trying to stab people on London Bridge before being shot by the cops. Beggars belief.

splinter65 · 29-11-2019 5:27pm

Met police statement: attacker is dead. Was wearing a hoax bomb. It is a terrorist incident. He had to die.

29-11-2019 5:28pm

tigger123 wrote: »

What the hell must happen in a persons life that they end up trying to stab people on London Bridge before being shot by the cops. Beggars belief.

The incident started in a premises. Met police shot him dead after public pinned him down. He was wearing a hoax bomb.

Well done to everyone. Public and police. They all put their lives on the line in order to save many more. They didn’t know the device was a hoax.

Fiery mutant · 29-11-2019 5:28pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Are there 2 people left on the ground after the cops pull the fella up and he goes to the right?

https://twitter.com/imamofpeace/status/1200425389618712576?s=21

Good enough for him. One less piece of **** wandering the streets. When these fanatics start to put innocent life’s at risk, in my eyes their rights go out the window.

ceadaoin. · 29-11-2019 5:29pm

Why is there a big truck blocking the road? Is that involved in the attack also?

IAMAMORON · 29-11-2019 5:29pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Met police statement: attacker is dead. Was wearing a hoax bomb. It is a terrorist incident. He had to die.

Why would someone do that ?

splinter65 · 29-11-2019 5:30pm

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

But that's just it, nobody knows yet.

I didn't lay claim to knowing either. I made an assumption based on what i saw in that video. The cop could be a Hero.

We'll know soon enough no doubt

The cop is not a hero. The cop did his job. Go on London bridge attacking people with a big knife and a hoax suicide vest? Resist arrest? Prepare to be shot in the head.

29-11-2019 5:30pm

dadad231 wrote: »

People like you are part of the problem, you make me ****ing sick .

People looking for evidence from someone to back up their posts are a problem, yeah that makes sense.

London Bridge Incident - mod warning in OP

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