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    #9002
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Tony said to Ariel the only reason Charlie Olives beat him was because he only trained bjj for 5 hours his whole camp. Very strange fella Tony, someone close to him should probably suggest to him to retire because the more beatings he's taking the more erratic he's getting.


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    #9003
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭Homelander


    rob316 wrote: »
    Frank Mir also boxing on this show. Big fan of Mir but I couldn't pay for it. $24 dollars by the way


    And he's fighting a proper legit champion boxer as well :eek:


    I didn't realise that. Assumed he'd be fighting another nobody.


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    #9004
    weemcd
    Registered Users Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Homelander wrote: »
    And he's fighting a proper legit champion boxer as well :eek:


    I didn't realise that. Assumed he'd be fighting another nobody.

    Steve Cunningham is no joke, moved up from Cruiser and put Tyson Fury on his ass before Fury came back and stopped him. Mir is in serious trouble here.


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    #9005
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Mir has looked utterly terrible in all his Bellator appearances. He's slow as hell, moves and throws like he's underwater.

    Unless something has dramatically changed, he's gonna get absolutely killed in there.


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    #9006
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,512 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I used to absolutely love watching Mir fight, his battles with Nog were legendary but not sure if the juice stopped flowing or too many bad KO's just put him in slow mo and being slow at HW can get you wrecked. Don't fancy his chances at this.


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    #9007
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    It's funny they couldn't get Tarver so they got Cunningham how he drew with in his last fight. Mir is going to get punched around and the odds reflect it. It shouldn't have been sanctioned.


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    #9008
    Rjd2
    Registered Users Posts: 12,017 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Nunes to win by domination whenever she feels like.




    https://twitter.com/BigMarcel24/status/1382808732816523271


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    #9009
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    ASOT wrote: »
    It's funny they couldn't get Tarver so they got Cunningham how he drew with in his last fight. Mir is going to get punched around and the odds reflect it. It shouldn't have been sanctioned.



    Yep its not going to be pretty the only thing that will look worse is the weigh in Franks seems to have piled on the weight


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    #9010
    Homelander
    Registered Users Posts: 4,364 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Did anyone actually watch the Askren fight? Like hell would I have paid for it, but the whole thing was unbelievably cringe, even the commentary was just god awful.

    Askren went down like a sack of potatos, I honestly expected Jake Paul to win but not quite that ridiculously easily. Absolutely insanity to believe that millions was made out of that car-wreck.

    Not that I fault then, if people are willing to pay for it fair enough, but it's not boxing, it's pure "entertainment". Would actually imagine if Jake Paul was smart he would challenge Ben to a re-match, but this time in MMA.

    Didn't watch Frank Mir but at least he went the distance. He had even less chance than Askren of winning.


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    #9011
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,088 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Homelander wrote: »
    Not that I fault then, if people are willing to pay for it fair enough, but it's not boxing, it's pure "entertainment". Would actually imagine if Jake Paul was smart he would challenge Ben to a re-match, but this time in MMA.

    That would be very short sighted by Jake Paul. He’d sell some PPVs. Make a killing. But he’s clearly lose badly and it harms his future image and earnings.

    Ben fought like he does in MMA. Plodding in with no head movement. He’s got Rousey level of head movement. And like Rousey he got away with it in MMA as he had the takedown and threat of a takedown. Without that he was a plodding target.


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    #9012
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Homelander wrote: »
    Did anyone actually watch the Askren fight? Like hell would I have paid for it, but the whole thing was unbelievably cringe, even the commentary was just god awful.

    Askren went down like a sack of potatos, I honestly expected Jake Paul to win but not quite that ridiculously easily. Absolutely insanity to believe that millions was made out of that car-wreck.

    Not that I fault then, if people are willing to pay for it fair enough, but it's not boxing, it's pure "entertainment". Would actually imagine if Jake Paul was smart he would challenge Ben to a re-match, but this time in MMA.

    Didn't watch Frank Mir but at least he went the distance. He had even less chance than Askren of winning.

    The event was a joke. I was up when it started so decided to tune in a watch a bit. First fight was between a nightclub owner who had 8 pro fights on his record. He was fighting some singer who had been training boxing a month. The nightclub owner had a height and reach advantage and about 10 pounds on the guy with only 1 months training. It lasted 2 full rounds and the singer didn't even land a single punch. In the last minute of the first round, Pete Davidson went up to the commentators box and the camera stopped showing the fight and focused on the commentators for the rest of the round. When the hell would you see that in a fight.

    Then there was about 90 minutes of music acts. They had Ric Flair hosting a slap fight after that. I was beginning to wonder if I had been drugged or I was having a fever dream at that stage. Then more music, then the Frank Mir fight. I stopped watching at that stage. I streamed it for free and still felt incredibly ripped off. Can't imagine what the poor fúckers who paid $50 for that fell like. I expected it to be bad but no way did I expect it to be that bad. Easily the worst combat sports event I have ever watched. Easily the worst sports related thing I have ever watched.


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    #9013
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Watched the card. An absolute shambles and embarrassment from start to finish.

    I was dipping in and out up until the Mir fight, but at one point there was some R&B lady on stage failing to mime properly. Then Ice Cube appeared out of nowhere. I had no idea what was going on.

    The Mir fight was pretty bad but was much better than what was to come.

    The Prograis fight was a farce. He threw a body punch, glanced his opponent's ribcage and the lad dropped to the ground in agony claiming a low blow. He stayed there for 10 solid minutes before being taken away on a stretcher.

    This was before a presenter announced "the moment you've all been waiting for"

    Justin Bieber! He got into a sound stage and sang a few songs. Why? I have no idea.

    Oscar De La Hoya was removed from commentary for quite clearly being...... intoxicated..... and by the time the Main Event started the commentary team was Snoop Dogg, Pete Davidson, AC Slater & some Tik Tok fella.

    Glad I didn't pay for it and I certainly won't pay for anything so sub-par in the future


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    #9014
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    The event was a joke. I was up when it started so decided to tune in a watch a bit. First fight was between a nightclub owner who had 8 pro fights on his record. He was fighting some singer who had been training boxing a month. The nightclub owner had a height and reach advantage and about 10 pounds on the guy with only 1 months training. It lasted 2 full rounds and the singer didn't even land a single punch. In the last minute of the first round, Pete Davidson went up to the commentators box and the camera stopped showing the fight and focused on the commentators for the rest of the round. When the hell would you see that in a fight.

    Then there was about 90 minutes of music acts. They had Ric Flair hosting a slap fight after that. I was beginning to wonder if I had been drugged or I was having a fever dream at that stage. Then more music, then the Frank Mir fight. I stopped watching at that stage. I streamed it for free and still felt incredibly ripped off. Can't imagine what the poor fúckers who paid $50 for that fell like. I expected it to be bad but no way did I expect it to be that bad. Easily the worst combat sports event I have ever watched. Easily the worst sports related thing I have ever watched.

    Nail on the head, the production was so strange. They have the rights to Teo Lopez title fight on June 5th and already have Holyfield v Kevin McBride and Diplo the DJ on the undercard. Shambles.


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    #9015
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    Then there was about 90 minutes of music acts. They had Ric Flair hosting a slap fight after that. I was beginning to wonder if I had been drugged or I was having a fever dream at that stage.....

    I'd forgotten about this. Ric Flair reffing a slap fight while Pete Davidson sat on a forklift. Bizarre!


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    #9016
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Watched the card. An absolute shambles and embarrassment from start to finish.

    I was dipping in and out up until the Mir fight, but at one point there was some R&B lady on stage failing to mime properly. Then Ice Cube appeared out of nowhere. I had no idea what was going on.

    The Mir fight was pretty bad but was much better than what was to come.

    The Prograis fight was a farce. He threw a body punch, glanced his opponent's ribcage and the lad dropped to the ground in agony claiming a low blow. He stayed there for 10 solid minutes before being taken away on a stretcher.

    This was before a presenter announced "the moment you've all been waiting for"

    Justin Bieber! He got into a sound stage and sang a few songs. Why? I have no idea.

    Oscar De La Hoya was removed from commentary for quite clearly being...... intoxicated..... and by the time the Main Event started the commentary team was Snoop Dogg, Pete Davidson, AC Slater & some Tik Tok fella.

    Glad I didn't pay for it and I certainly won't pay for anything so sub-par in the future

    Oscar De La Fúcking Hoya. How did I forget about him. His sole contribution to the commentary team was to roar incomprehensible gibberish followed by the word "BABY" the whole fight.


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    #9017
    ASOT
    Registered Users Posts: 7,733 ✭✭✭ASOT


    De La Hoya was in a bad bad bad way, I was surprised he was allowed stay on for so long.


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    #9018
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    I'm surprised people actually even watched this.
    What were people expecting with that window licker headlining against a smaller fighter/the worst striker MMA has possibly ever seen.


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    #9019
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    I'm surprised people actually even watched this.
    What were people expecting with that window licker headlining against a smaller fighter/the worst striker MMA has possibly ever seen.

    I was up anyway and seen a reddit thread about it so stuck it on out of morbid curiousity. Was expecting it to be poor but it was way worse than I thought. Even the camera work was awful. The cameramen were standing on the edge of the ring outside the ropes with the camera on their shoulders. So, the camera was really close to the fighters and wasn't steady at all. That's the type of thing you would expect from a smaller organisation sticking their fights up on youtube or something not from a $50 PPV.


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    #9020
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    I decided id give this a watch next morning ,
    So I started with the Mir fight and didn't even last a round before I turned it off basically he commentary team gave me some kind of PTS from a war I was never in , They seriously assaulted my ear drums it can only be descried as noise pollution

    I seen a video of the weigh in and your man looked like a Aldi version of McGregor it was so so so so so so bad,

    The sooner a real boxer or fighter sparks him the better for humanity ,


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    #9021
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    I'm surprised people actually even watched this.
    What were people expecting with that window licker headlining against a smaller fighter/the worst striker MMA has possibly ever seen.

    In my defence, I had it on in the background while having a few drinks with family. Was just dipping in and out.

    Had it been any other night,I wouldn't have even bothered. Or bothered watching the main event the following morning.


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    #9022
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,221 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Is boxing just away to pish these days with all this nonsense?

    I'm not slagging off the sport, just admitting that I don't follow it. But with the McGregor fiasco laying the groundwork for what was essentially I hugely financially successful mismatched exhibition fight, now we have dog poop like the weekend's event with a bum like Paul making a fortune for doing nothing of any real substance.

    At least the McGregor Mayweather fight had 2 highly skilled people in their own right. Askren is about as good a boxer as I am and this lad Paul is probably at a level that a decent amateur would batter.

    It's like society, people with little or no skill or actual value to give to society, making an absolute fortune just by generating interest in a freakshow.

    Like people who make millions by declaring themselves influencers on youtube.


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    #9023
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users Posts: 19,148 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    The Prograis fight was a farce. He threw a body punch, glanced his opponent's ribcage and the lad dropped to the ground in agony claiming a low blow. He stayed there for 10 solid minutes before being taken away on a stretcher.

    This has been changed from technical decision to TKO

    https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/4/19/22392394/triller-fight-club-askren-vs-paul-technical-decision-overturned-regis-prograis-tko-win

    Here's the "offending" punch

    https://twitter.com/FiteTV/status/1383633929450577925?s=20


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    #9024
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    I just watched the Askren match on YouTube the next morning.

    Was shocked Michael Buffer got Askrens name wrong. Very unprofessional, it’s the main event. Learn his bloody name. Bruce would never make a mistake like that.
    Snoop Dogg shouting curses and even dropping the N word after the fight while boasting about his bet. Who the hell wants to hear him spouting stoned bull**** on commentary.
    Camera work as was mentioned above was awful.

    They got 5 minutes of my time which made me feel embarrassed enough without paying a penny.


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    #9025
    derfderf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Jake Paul might end up carving out a niche that Colby can only ever dream of. 90% of the people buying would have been watching hoping he gets knocked out. He will have to keep stepping up the competition to keep the interest going, but he's going to make a lot of money until he find his level of incompetence.


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    #9026
    Rjd2
    Registered Users Posts: 12,017 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    derfderf wrote: »
    Jake Paul might end up carving out a niche that Colby can only ever dream of. 90% of the people buying would have been watching hoping he gets knocked out. He will have to keep stepping up the competition to keep the interest going, but he's going to make a lot of money until he find his level of incompetence.

    Yeah he can call the shots.

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/18/22390653/jake-paul-targeted-by-mma-fighters-after-ben-askren-knockout-tyron-woodley-bj-penn-dillon-danis

    All the lads begging for attention. :P

    I don't know who I would cheer if he fought Danis which seems to be the fight everyone is predicting, but Paul would murder him.

    I think Paul would swerve Woodley though as their is still some life left in him as his last fight showed.


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    #9027
    derfderf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Yeah he can call the shots.

    https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/4/18/22390653/jake-paul-targeted-by-mma-fighters-after-ben-askren-knockout-tyron-woodley-bj-penn-dillon-danis

    All the lads begging for attention. :P

    I don't know who I would cheer if he fought Danis which seems to be the fight everyone is predicting, but Paul would murder him.

    I think Paul would swerve Woodley though as their is still some life left in him as his last fight showed.

    Paul has more pro boxing fights than Dillon has pro MMA fights :D.
    Woodley fighting Paul would mean little to no weight cut for Woodley. Dana is talking about releasing him too. That's one I'd like to see.


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    #9028
    callaway92
    Registered Users Posts: 14,352 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    mdwexford wrote: »
    I just watched the Askren match on YouTube the next morning.


    Snoop Dogg shouting curses and even dropping the N word after the fight while boasting about his bet. Who the hell wants to hear him spouting stoned bull**** on commentary.

    Come on man - With all due respect, that caters to their target audience 100%. Leads to clicks, views and buys.


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    #9029
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users Posts: 17,508 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Can't remember where I saw it, but I saw an MMA math statement that made me laugh.

    Jake Paul beat Askren, who beat Lawler, who beat Koscheck, who beat Rumble, who beat Arlovski, who beat Struve, who beat Stipe, who beat Ngannou, therefore Paul > Ngannou.


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    #9030
    mdwexford
    Registered Users Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Come on man - With all due respect, that caters to their target audience 100%. Leads to clicks, views and buys.

    I see.

    I have no idea what kind of person pays for this type of thing. I try and keep out of the youtuber, instagram, social media influencer type of nonsense as much as possible.


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    #9031
    dashoonage
    Registered Users Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Logan vs Danis is an emotional roller coaster. Legit want both men to get knocked out.

    one could only hope of Ric Flair with a chair shot to both like.....


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