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The Nal · 09-04-2019 3:43pm

VW 1 wrote: »

He may be smaller but a few months ago he was looking a hell of a lot softer than he is there.

That makes sense. Come off the juice, lose muscle and then start slowly building to heavyweight.

He looks exactly like a juice head whos now clean should look.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 3:46pm

He could be juiced up to his eyeballs and DC will still mill him, little interest in the fight myself it won't be competitive.

simongurnick · 09-04-2019 6:31pm

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Just watched it earlier. I'm of the same opinion to other posts above. they looked like 2 drunks wildly swinging for 10 minutes. In fairness, they both took a lot of damage.

I think Paulie will be just too technical and won't get hit much vs Artem.

Anyone know who the guy was in Artem's corner and what's the deal with the face bandana .
Also, Artems cut guy had a look of Jack Black about him :P

I wonder if you're right mate? Conventional wisdom would agree. There was not much (if any) technical skill on show on Saturday night, but loads of heart and guys and girls that are as tough as nails. The question for me is, will Paulie get to use his technical skills or is BKFC, by definition, always going to be a slugfest?
I think it might because I don't think bareknuckle is just as simple as boxing with no gloves. The gloves are a defensive weapon so it takes away that peek a boo defense which often provides a foundation for the jab. Speaking of jabs, I didn't see to may of those either. Maybe because these guys are poor practitioners or maybe because bareknuckle itself draws the fighters into a war. Knight said numerous times in the build to the fight that he was going to fight smart and keep his distance, yet he ends up in a street brawl and if it gets to a street brawl, i don't think Paulie has the balls to last the amount of abuse Artem can take. The quick two minute rounds and circular ring also force fighters to go all out early on.
Anyway, I'll be watching with interest June 22.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 8:17pm

TJ banned two years by USADA, won't appeal it and will be back in 2021. He tested positive for EPO.

Shaub was saying they have a new test for EPO that they didn't have before but I don't know how true that is.

Bunny Colvin · 09-04-2019 8:22pm

ASOT wrote: »

TJ banned two years by USADA, won't appeal it and will be back in 2021. He tested positive for EPO.

Shaub was saying they have a new test for EPO that they didn't have before but I don't know how true that is.

A nightmare for him with a rough cut down to 135, losing in the 1st and now banned for two years. Not the timeline most people saw.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 8:24pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

A nightmare for him with a rough cut down to 135, losing in the 1st and now banned for two years. Not the timeline most people saw.

Im delighted, for once its a substance where a "tainted supplements" defence can't be used. Caught absolutely red handed.

Bunny Colvin · 09-04-2019 8:25pm

ASOT wrote: »

Im delighted, for once its a substance where a "tainted supplements" defence can't be used. Caught absolutely red handed.

Can't disagree but he was probably my favourite fighter to watch. Crazy how it all worked out.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 8:39pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Can't disagree but he was probably my favourite fighter to watch. Crazy how it all worked out.

From being on top of the world after getting his belt back to this, astrix over his whole career now. More people to be caught now according to Schaub I'd say certain fighters are ****ting it.

EagererBeaver · 09-04-2019 8:44pm

Absolutely, **** him. Taints absolutely everything.

mdwexford · 09-04-2019 8:51pm

ASOT wrote: »

He could be juiced up to his eyeballs and DC will still mill him, little interest in the fight myself it won't be competitive.

Interested to see DC’s game plan.
I think Brock is a really bad match up for him.

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

Can't disagree but he was probably my favourite fighter to watch. Crazy how it all worked out.

Yeah he’s been sensational the last few years, loved watching him as well.
Very disappointed.

rob316 · 09-04-2019 8:58pm

EPO! That's what Lance Armstrong was using, you inject it, it's as delibirate as it comes.

**** him.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 8:58pm

rob316 wrote: »

EPO! That's what Lance Armstrong was using, you inject it, it's as delibirate as it comes.

**** him.

Exactly there's no defence hes a cheating ****.

ASOT · 09-04-2019 9:02pm

Some stones on TJ to be going on Joe Rogan and pushing his vitamins, cryo chambers, ice baths the lot when he was just whacking epo out of it :pac:

VW 1 · 09-04-2019 9:24pm

Be interesting to see if Rogan addresses it on a podcast. In my eyes the more lads they pop for stuff like this the better, I know we will likely never see fully clean competition, but the more fear there is to use, the cleaner the athletes get imo.

tommyboy26 · 09-04-2019 9:38pm

https://youtu.be/6laNc6Qvcfg

but guys give him a break he worked so hard for 12 weeks:rolleyes:

nearly crying and very angry.......roid rage????

09-04-2019 9:58pm

Not a great look for Duane Ludwig or Sam Calavitta either.

The "I'm a man of science and numbers bit" of his made me laugh: https://mmajunkie.com/2019/01/tj-dillashaw-weight-cut-sam-calavitta-henry-cejudo-ufc-flyweight-title-espn-plus-1

Zero-Cool · 09-04-2019 10:02pm

Duane back to selling peanut butter.

https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1115699393242587136?s=19

09-04-2019 10:06pm

Is it internet mean to be happy for Cody?

cletus · 09-04-2019 10:07pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/6laNc6Qvcfg

but guys give him a break he worked so hard for 12 weeks:rolleyes:

nearly crying and very angry.......roid rage????

Except it's not a steroid...

The Nal · 09-04-2019 10:10pm

mdwexford wrote: »

Interested to see DC’s game plan.
I think Brock is a really bad match up for him.

Me too. Very interesting fight.

xtal191 · 09-04-2019 10:11pm

Cali_girl wrote: »

Is it internet mean to be happy for Cody?

Sure didn't he let it slip at a presser that TJ showed Team Alpha Male how to do steroids or something along those lines, wouldn't be surprised if that whole gym were on the stuff.

MrStuffins · 09-04-2019 11:19pm

Cali_girl wrote: »

Is it internet mean to be happy for Cody?

Cody's a meathead but it's hard not to feel for him here.

Thank God Henry spanked TJ and not the other way around!

Zero-Cool · 09-04-2019 11:30pm

So, the special EpO testing isn't done on all samples but can be done on previous ones.

https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1115736603002122240?s=19

tommyboy26 · 09-04-2019 11:46pm

cletus wrote: »

Except it's not a steroid...

my apologies. so if it is not a steroid what is it and what is the benefit from it

MrStuffins · 09-04-2019 11:52pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

my apologies. so if it is not a steroid what is it and what is the benefit from it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/04/09/tj-dillashaws-suspension-why-epo-is-such-a-disgraceful-banned-substance-for-an-mma-fighter/

AlmightyCushion · 09-04-2019 11:57pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

my apologies. so if it is not a steroid what is it and what is the benefit from it

It lets your blood carry more oxygen so helps your cardio and endurance.

Mellor · 10-04-2019 7:32am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

my apologies. so if it is not a steroid what is it and what is the benefit from it

Increases Red blood cell count, which means blood carries more oxygen (per litre), which in turn means V02maX and stamina are both significantly increased.
Typically you see it in distance runners, cyclists (Lance Armstrong). But has turned up in sprinters too.

TJ isn;t the first fighter to pop for it. Ali Bagautinov, Gleison Tibau and Chael Sonnen all popped for it in the past - Chael was the first MMA fighter to pop for EPO I believe

tommyboy26 · 10-04-2019 11:14am

MrStuffins wrote: »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/04/09/tj-dillashaws-suspension-why-epo-is-such-a-disgraceful-banned-substance-for-an-mma-fighter/

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

It lets your blood carry more oxygen so helps your cardio and endurance.

Mellor wrote: »

Increases Red blood cell count, which means blood carries more oxygen (per litre), which in turn means V02maX and stamina are both significantly increased.
Typically you see it in distance runners, cyclists (Lance Armstrong). But has turned up in sprinters too.

TJ isn;t the first fighter to pop for it. Ali Bagautinov, Gleison Tibau and Chael Sonnen all popped for it in the past - Chael was the first MMA fighter to pop for EPO I believe

thanks for explaining this. so would i be right to say that this is worse for tj because of his style of fighting?

AlmightyCushion · 10-04-2019 11:18am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

thanks for explaining this. so would i be right to say that this is worse for tj because of his style of fighting?

What do you mean by worse? I can't see any situation where having more oxygen in your blood would be worse for performance.

tommyboy26 · 10-04-2019 11:23am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

What do you mean by worse? I can't see any situation where having more oxygen in your blood would be worse for performance.

sorry i worded that wrong. what i meant was does this make tj look worse because the benefits of EPO seem to be the reasons why he won his fights.

As in if it was steroids he popped for that improved his strength that wouldnt be as bad as him popping for EPO.

again not sure i am wording this right

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