Waterford GAA Thread - Mod note post #1

Rosita wrote: »

Only in the context of his ability. When you look at the circumstances it's not hard to credit. The All Stars reward and recognise primarily those who win the All Ireland final and then the runners-up. Those teams can usually expect at least 12 of the team. Despite the brilliant hurling Paul Flynn did, unfortunately he didn't fit into that category at all at his peak. For comparison, Kilkenny's Peter Barry was born the same year as Paul Flynn and his career roughly coincided with Flynn's. Barry won three All Stars, each one won in the year he played in an All Ireland final and two of them after the team had won the final. In that context it's easy to rationalise Flynn's lack of reward at the All Stars.

How does this rationale explain John Mullane’s 5 awards.......2003 was his first and waterford only got to a Munster final....think he won four in a row from 2009 to 2012 and never made a final appearance best was semis and 1/4 finals in that era...?

Asdfgh2020 wrote: »

What year was that incident..?

1998

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Fives moved to Waterford and worked there, possibly Foley did also as his son plays for ballygunner now

The city clubs are forever getting in players

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Mt Sion took alot of players from clubs back then o Shea, kirwan , Harris all county minors from portlaw, white, dunhill

Are you suggesting mount sion should have refused the application for these players?

tommylad1212 wrote: »

They went looking for the players so they would hardly refuse the application!

My point being, the players themselves are the ones that choose to join at end of the day. The focus seems to be on the clubs and people like to use the word ‘poaching’, however it’s the disloyalty from players that turn their back on the clubs that produced and nurtured them gets overlooked. That’s fine, let’s focus the begrudgery on the clubs that benefit.

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Are you suggesting mount sion should have refused the application for these players?

Players went to Mount Sion then as it ,gave them a chance of playing intercounty .....something that was highely unlikely if they stayed with they're previous clubs. These are the facts....Not so sure the club chased these players...my understanding would be it was the other way round.

Deisegodeo wrote: »

The club Deise fundraiser passed 20k this morning, some going in one week.

Does anyone have any idea as to what has or is being done with the 50k plus that was collected by Club Deise before the All Ireland?

cnocsion wrote: »

Players went to Mount Sion then as it ,gave them a chance of playing intercounty .....something that was highely unlikely if they stayed with they're previous clubs. These are the facts....Not so sure the club chased these players...my understanding would be it was the other way round.

They had all played county minor playing for their own clubs , who was the county minor manager at the time ? Didn't a club from another county send a letter to mt Sion to tell them to stop trying to poach their player ,

Waternut wrote: »

I do think this is an important question that needs to be answered. I donated thinking that money raised would primarily go towards the funding of our underage teams and resourcing our underage teams and not the senior team. Funding for the senior team should be separate and if the county board were any good, the costs would have been covered by commercial donations.

I think it was pretty clear that the adult teams would be getting a portion of the funds raised. The below are two quotes from the information on the GoFundMe page at the time & the whole piece makes very little reference to underage outside of these. From reading it again there isn’t a lot of reference to football but I guess that’s only natural given they were trying to raise funds off the back of the success of the senior hurling team.

“Club Deise are setting up a gofundme page as our fundraiser event for 2020, to help fund our County Teams & Development Squads.”


“All the money raised will be used to ensure we can continue to support our hurlers and development squads now and into the future.”

How specifically it is being used to support these teams I do not know. It’s probably still with Club Déise & will be until the teams mentioned are in collective training I would think.

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Good to see Kevin Moran back for another year. Great servant and warrior for Waterford

Yeah in an age where players are retiring earlier its great to see someone in their 30s having the appetite to go again for another season

Can't wait for the new season whenever the hell it starts

Giveitfong wrote: »

It was interesting (and presumably unprecedented) to see two players from Waterford being interviewed on TG4 after Munster's win over Benetton in the Pro12 on Friday night - Jack O'Donoghue (as team captain) and Thomas Ahern (man of the match).

As far as I am aware, O'Donoghue was a very promising full back as a juvenile with Ballygunner before deciding to focus on rugby. With his size, pace and power he might have made a handy addition to the Waterford panel if he had stuck with the hurling.

I don't know anything about Thomas Ahern's sporting background, but with his height, pace and footballing ability he would have made a useful midfielder or full forward for Ardmore's Gaelic football team (at the least).

So perhaps two that got away, but best of luck to them both in their chosen sporting careers.

Lure of professional sport?

Brian Murphy, current blues goalkeeper, was a class hurler back in the day too

PTH2009 wrote: »

Wasant Kevin Moran a fairly highly rated Soccer player when he was a teenager ?

yeah think he has trials in England at one stage

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Deisegodeo wrote: »

yeah think he has trials in England at one stage

Yes Newcastle United for a period, also played underage for Ireland I’m pretty sure.