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mountgomery burns

Up the Déise

PTH2009

Loves me county boy

Any news from the Waterford camp ?, IC training permitted from today. I imagine players still playing Football for their clubs will return in a few weeks

upthedeise16

PTH2009 wrote: »

Loves me county boy

Any news from the Waterford camp ?, IC training permitted from today. I imagine players still playing Football for their clubs will return in a few weeks

They’re back full throttle tomorrow night and play Dublin at the weekend.

thesultan

Without the footballers?

PTH2009

thesultan wrote: »

Without the footballers?

upthedeise16 wrote: »

They’re back full throttle tomorrow night and play Dublin at the weekend.

Good stuff

Prob have enough numbers without the club footballers. A few of the unders 20 squad might play as there playing winners of the Tipp vs Clare QF at the end of October.

Speaking of the under 20s didn't the manager say last year that this was a 2 year project ?

Deskjockey

In on page 1.

Its a sign. Our year at long last

Up the Deise

Cake Man

Looking back at the first few pages of the last thread it was the days leading up to the Tipp championship game in 2018 (infamous ghost goal). Little did we know how bad things were going to get thereafter!

emergingstar

I think the lads still playing football with their clubs are still going in for training

thesultan

They should be left with their clubs

Jjjjjjjjbarry

Any surprise returns to intercounty training?

Deisegodeo

Waterford v cork fixed for thurles on Saturday 31st October at 3.30.

game on sky sports... very disappointing that sky have the game, can't attend and can't watch it at home either now

whiteandblue

thesultan wrote: »

They should be left with their clubs

I would be hard on club managers preparing for a football 1/4 final if intercounty hurlers expected to train with the county but I'm sure there has been some sort of compromise seen as by reckoning there's only 10 left in the senior championship but even after this weekend, I'd be thinking 8 and maybe 9 would be preparing for a county senior football semi-final.

Rathgormack: Billy Power
Clashmore: Tadhg de Burca
The Nire: Jamie Barron, Conor Gleeson, Shane Ryan, Tom Barron
Ballinacourty: Conor Prunty, Michael Kiely, Neil Montgomery
Gaultier: Dessie Hutchinson

I have only gone through the senior clubs, I know there are lads from intermediate and possibly junior clubs as well who will have knockout ties as well.

JeffKenna

Deisegodeo wrote: »

Waterford v cork fixed for thurles on Saturday 31st October at 3.30.

game on sky sports... very disappointing that sky have the game, can't attend and can't watch it at home either now

This is really disappointing.

PTH2009

Deisegodeo wrote: »

Waterford v cork fixed for thurles on Saturday 31st October at 3.30.

game on sky sports... very disappointing that sky have the game, can't attend and can't watch it at home either now

Roll on Halloween

Pubs will be packed for this considering it's on Sky

sitkaspruce

PTH2009 wrote: »

Roll on Halloween

Pubs will be packed for this considering it's on Sky

FFS - pubs will not be packed, they will be at the adequate capacity to comply with the social distancing requirements, its the way its going to be from now on so just get used to it.

Hard to motivate yourself for this but hey, let's hits hope all the lads make it through the football unscathed first and then give a right go at the championship.

tommylad1212

whiteandblue wrote: »

I would be hard on club managers preparing for a football 1/4 final if intercounty hurlers expected to train with the county but I'm sure there has been some sort of compromise seen as by reckoning there's only 10 left in the senior championship but even after this weekend, I'd be thinking 8 and maybe 9 would be preparing for a county senior football semi-final.

Rathgormack: Billy Power
Clashmore: Tadhg de Burca
The Nire: Jamie Barron, Conor Gleeson, Shane Ryan, Tom Barron
Ballinacourty: Conor Prunty, Michael Kiely, Neil Montgomery
Gaultier: Dessie Hutchinson

I have only gone through the senior clubs, I know there are lads from intermediate and possibly junior clubs as well who will have knockout ties as well.

Michael kiely wasnt on the panel

Deise_2012

PTH2009 wrote: »

Roll on Halloween

Pubs will be packed for this considering it's on Sky

Surely trolling

thesultan

PTH2009 wrote: »

Roll on Halloween

Pubs will be packed for this considering it's on Sky

Limited capacity. So won't be packed

PTH2009

thesultan wrote: »

Limited capacity. So won't be packed

Well it will be busy and maybe full as per capacity

Anyway great to have something to look forward too

Deisegodeo

JeffKenna wrote: »

This is really disappointing.

it doesn't seem right, with the government (tax payer) providing the funding to ensure the championships can be played this year, I just eont understand how they can be allowed to have games exclusively on sky sports.

I'm aware of the contract they entered into, but things have changed significantly with spectators unable to attend games. all games should be on terrestrial tv this year.

blacksuir

sitkaspruce wrote: »

FFS - pubs will not be packed, they will be at the adequate capacity to comply with the social distancing requirements, its the way its going to be from now on so just get used to it.

Hard to motivate yourself for this but hey, let's hits hope all the lads make it through the football unscathed first and then give a right go at the championship.

I wonder which one will be the first to put up a large screen outdoors so that they could sell extra drink by placing tables and chairs outdoors.

sitkaspruce

blacksuir wrote: »

I wonder which one will be the first to put up a large screen outdoors so that they could sell extra drink by placing tables and chairs outdoors.

I dont see many sitting outside a pub on the last weekend of October, championship or not.

The way the numbers have been the last few days you'd be better off just ordering in sky or get the TV now bundle rather than booking a table in a pub.

thesultan

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Surely trolling

A lot of pubs won't probably get sky with sky not cutting their prices.

PTH2009

Hopefully we stay injury free and the management have a full panel to pick from for the 31st Oct

Any news on any additions to the panel ? going by Cahills interview it seems we might have a few additions for the 2021 league

With Connors gone who will have the task of keeping Patrick Horgan quite ?

thesultan

Connors didn't mark him last year.

Giveitfong

With counties now back in training for the intercounty championships, it will be interesting to see who is on the Waterford panel. Training panels are limited to 32 players, which (as far as I can make out) is exactly the number of players who got game time for Waterford in their five National Hurling League games earlier this year. Only two players who were named in matchday panels did not get game time – these were James Flavin and Ciarán Kirwan who were named on the panel for the final game against Limerick and whom we can assume will not be in the championship panel.

Two players – Stephen Roche and Jordan Henley – featured in the early-season Munster League but did not make any appearance in NHL matchday panels, and I do not know if they remained as part of the training panel.

There were, as far as I am aware, three players who were named in Liam Cahill’s initial training panel but who were ruled out for the entire league due to injury – DJ Foran, Colm Roche and Michael Kiely of Abbeyside. In addition, Tadhg de Búrca was already ruled out due to his cruciate injury. All of these took a full part in the recent club championships and it will be interesting to see how many, if any (apart, obviously, from de Búrca) of these will return to the panel.

I would not expect Kiely to be involved as he has had no preparation for the much greater demands of senior intercounty hurling. In fact, in his interesting interview after the county final, when asked about the promising new talent which appeared in this year’s club championships, Cahill said he did not intend to include any of these players for this year’s championship but would look forward to giving them the run-over for next year. This makes sense as new players need to be tried out first in national league games to see how they adjust to the demands of top-level hurling.

Foran and Roche I would expect to be recalled to the panel, as in my view they are way ahead of some of the players who featured in this year’s league panel. It will be interesting to see if any other players get calls onto the panel who did not feature in the league, although we would probably have heard about this already if it was the case. The obvious candidate is Maurice Shanahan. We also have virtually no cover in the fullback line, and it would be good to see Ian Kenny getting a call-up, but this is very doubtful at this stage. The possibility of Shane Bennett being called up is also there.

It is interesting that the only player name-checked in Cahill’s interview was Darragh Fives who, Cahill noted, had come safely through Tourin’s championship campaign (which ended in the Western final). Fives played (and played very well) in the first two league games, but then (as usual) got injured. It would be wonderful if he could survive a championship campaign, and a half-back line made up of Fives, Calum Lyons and de Búrca would be among the best in the country. However, I gave up ages ago keeping my fingers crossed regarding Fives’s fitness.

For the record, the following is the panel of players who got game time in the league:

Stephen O’Keeffe
Billy Nolan
Shaun O’Brien
Shane Fives
Conor Prunty
Shane McNulty
Calum Lyons
Darragh Fives
Iarlaith Daly
Austin Gleeson
Kevin Moran
Jamie Barron
Tom Barron
Neil Montgomery
Pauric Mahony
Jack Prendergast
Kieran Bennett
Jack Fagan
Patrick Curran
Stephen Bennett
Dessie Hutchinson
Jake Dillon
Mikey Kearney
Peter Hogan
Darragh Lyons
Conor Gleeson
Colin Dunford
Mark O’Brien
Billy Power
Kieran Power
Shane Ryan
MJ Sutton

PTH2009

i imagine the challenge match against Dublin that was planned this weekend will not go ahead now ?

TheScoringGoal

Giveitfong wrote: »

Two players – Stephen Roche and Jordan Henley – featured in the early-season Munster League but did not make any appearance in NHL matchday panels, and I do not know if they remained as part of the training panel.

There was a challenge game played against Wexford back around February and from memory I think both players featured.

thesultan

Both left the panel

mountgomery burns

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40050434.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

upthedeise16

mountgomery burns wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40050434.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Someone spoke about Darragh Fives being injury prone in a previous post, but unfortunately Conor Prunty has been equally as unlucky over the last number of years

mountgomery burns

Interview with Cahill at 12 on WLR tomorrow. Molumphy still involved this year, contrary to Irish Examiner reports.

PTH2009

Crazy to think we might not see a Cahill led championship match in person

You'd be hopeful crowds will be permitted again for the 2021 championship

DiscoStew

Ian Kenny was added to the panel prior to lockdown in March. Conor Sheahan another who is part of it.
Shane Bennett hasn’t & won’t be returning, at least not this year anyway. Michael Kiely also not part of it as far as I am aware.
I doubt Ballinacourty are best pleased with the injury to Prunty.

spideyman92

I take it the Rathgormack & Clashmore game isn't being streamed? Isn't on the beosport website

PTH2009

spideyman92 wrote: »

I take it the Rathgormack & Clashmore game isn't being streamed? Isn't on the beosport website

https://youtu.be/fL7o3BJAo3E

PTH2009

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/41019518

tommylad1212

PTH2009 wrote: »

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/41019518

Where did wlr get that nigel kelly out of, very poor interview, talks to fast,no clue of gaa

PTH2009

39 in a row for Ballymacarbry ladies football team

Deise_2012

Prunty didn’t tog out for Courty today, did he?

tommylad1212

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Prunty didn’t tog out for Courty today, did he?

No hes injured

Deisegodeo

tommylad1212 wrote: »

No hes injured

so is Montgomery apparently after today's game

Giveitfong

I have written here before about the number of young players who made their mark in this year’s senior hurling championship. I have been looking in particular at those who are eligible to play in this year’s Under 20 intercounty championship.

Some of these have already played for Waterford at Under 20 level and most have played at Minor level. Playing well – and in some cases starring – at senior club level will have given these players a further boost in terms of confidence and ability to cope at intercounty level.

In the following I have focused on players who made an impression on me during this year’s club championship.

The last intercounty Minor championship to be played at Under 18 was in in 2017. Some players from that year’s Minor team will be eligible for Under 20 this year, but I don’t know who they are. In any case, that was probably the weakest Minor team put out by Waterford in a long time. I am led to believe that Mount Sion’s Luke O’Brien from that team is eligible for this year.

From the 2018 Minor team which beat Limerick and Tipperary, the following were quite prominent in this year’s senior club championship: Rory Furlong (Roanmore), Michael Kiely (Abbeyside), Kevin Mahony (Ballygunner), Tristan Loftus (Dungarvan), Paddy Leavy (Ballygunner), Cian Wadding (Roanmore), Oisín O’Gorman (Lismore) and James Power (Clonea). Of these, Furlong and Loftus also player Minor in 2019.

I would also mention Jack Ó Floinn (An Rinn) who was an ever-present on the Waterford Minor teams in both 2018 and 2019, and his clubmate Oisín Ó Ceallaigh who was on the 2018 Minor team and last year’s Under 20 team. Sam Fitzgerald (Clashmore-Kinsalebeg), who did a great marking job on Mikey Kearney in the Western Intermediate final, was also on the 2018 minor team and 2019 Under 20 team, as were Abbeyside’s Michael Kiely and Tourin’s Gavin Fives. Fives played at centre back on the 2018 Minor team and scored an heroic winning point against Tipperary in Thurles.

Players from last year’s Minor team (which was also very competitive) who made a splash in this year’s senior club championship were Cárthach Daly (Lismore), Reuben Halloran (De La Salle), Aaron Ryan (Fourmilewater), Johnny Burke (Dungarvan) and Mikey Cummins (Passage).

Other young players who first came to my notice this year are Seán Walsh (Fourmilewater), PJ Fanning (Mount Sion) and Liam Flynn (Passage). Are any of these eligible for Under 20 this year? Are there any other genuine contenders whom I have left out?

Excluding the last three mentioned, these are 18 good players who are eligible for this year’s county Under 20 team. A lot of these are big, strong, players who are good in the air.

From these 18 players I would have a shot at a team along the following lines:

Full backs: Sam Fitzgerald; Luke O’Brien; Jack Ó Floinn
Half backs: Cárthach Daly; Rory Furlong; Gavin Fives
Midfield: Paddy Leavy; Kevin Mahony
Half forwards: Johnny Burke; Mikey Cummins; James Power
Full forwards: Reuben Halloran; Michael Kiely; Oisín Ó Ceallaigh

Subs: Cian Wadding; Tristan Loftus; Aaron Ryan; Oisín O’Gorman

Does anyone know a good goalie?

tommylad1212

Giveitfong wrote: »

I have written here before about the number of young players who made their mark in this year’s senior hurling championship. I have been looking in particular at those who are eligible to play in this year’s Under 20 intercounty championship.

Some of these have already played for Waterford at Under 20 level and most have played at Minor level. Playing well – and in some cases starring – at senior club level will have given these players a further boost in terms of confidence and ability to cope at intercounty level.

In the following I have focused on players who made an impression on me during this year’s club championship.

The last intercounty Minor championship to be played at Under 18 was in in 2017. Some players from that year’s Minor team will be eligible for Under 20 this year, but I don’t know who they are. In any case, that was probably the weakest Minor team put out by Waterford in a long time. I am led to believe that Mount Sion’s Luke O’Brien from that team is eligible for this year.

From the 2018 Minor team which beat Limerick and Tipperary, the following were quite prominent in this year’s senior club championship: Rory Furlong (Roanmore), Michael Kiely (Abbeyside), Kevin Mahony (Ballygunner), Tristan Loftus (Dungarvan), Paddy Leavy (Ballygunner), Cian Wadding (Roanmore), Oisín O’Gorman (Lismore) and James Power (Clonea). Of these, Furlong and Loftus also player Minor in 2019.

I would also mention Jack Ó Floinn (An Rinn) who was an ever-present on the Waterford Minor teams in both 2018 and 2019, and his clubmate Oisín Ó Ceallaigh who was on the 2018 Minor team and last year’s Under 20 team. Sam Fitzgerald (Clashmore-Kinsalebeg), who did a great marking job on Mikey Kearney in the Western Intermediate final, was also on the 2018 minor team and 2019 Under 20 team, as were Abbeyside’s Michael Kiely and Tourin’s Gavin Fives. Fives played at centre back on the 2018 Minor team and scored an heroic winning point against Tipperary in Thurles.

Players from last year’s Minor team (which was also very competitive) who made a splash in this year’s senior club championship were Cárthach Daly (Lismore), Reuben Halloran (De La Salle), Aaron Ryan (Fourmilewater), Johnny Burke (Dungarvan) and Mikey Cummins (Passage).

Other young players who first came to my notice this year are Seán Walsh (Fourmilewater), PJ Fanning (Mount Sion) and Liam Flynn (Passage). Are any of these eligible for Under 20 this year? Are there any other genuine contenders whom I have left out?

Excluding the last three mentioned, these are 18 good players who are eligible for this year’s county Under 20 team. A lot of these are big, strong, players who are good in the air.

From these 18 players I would have a shot at a team along the following lines:

Full backs: Sam Fitzgerald; Luke O’Brien; Jack Ó Floinn
Half backs: Cárthach Daly; Rory Furlong; Gavin Fives
Midfield: Paddy Leavy; Kevin Mahony
Half forwards: Johnny Burke; Mikey Cummins; James Power
Full forwards: Reuben Halloran; Michael Kiely; Oisín Ó Ceallaigh

Subs: Cian Wadding; Tristan Loftus; Aaron Ryan; Oisín O’Gorman

Does anyone know a good goalie?

U20s playing kilkenny this week in a challenge

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/WaterfordGAA/status/1307757429334081538?s=19

Cornerstoner

tommylad1212 wrote: »

Where did wlr get that nigel kelly out of, very poor interview, talks to fast,no clue of gaa

Bring back Gavin Whelan

Mastermcgrath

Giveitfong wrote: »

I have written here before about the number of young players who made their mark in this year’s senior hurling championship. I have been looking in particular at those who are eligible to play in this year’s Under 20 intercounty championship.

Some of these have already played for Waterford at Under 20 level and most have played at Minor level. Playing well – and in some cases starring – at senior club level will have given these players a further boost in terms of confidence and ability to cope at intercounty level.

In the following I have focused on players who made an impression on me during this year’s club championship.

The last intercounty Minor championship to be played at Under 18 was in in 2017. Some players from that year’s Minor team will be eligible for Under 20 this year, but I don’t know who they are. In any case, that was probably the weakest Minor team put out by Waterford in a long time. I am led to believe that Mount Sion’s Luke O’Brien from that team is eligible for this year.

From the 2018 Minor team which beat Limerick and Tipperary, the following were quite prominent in this year’s senior club championship: Rory Furlong (Roanmore), Michael Kiely (Abbeyside), Kevin Mahony (Ballygunner), Tristan Loftus (Dungarvan), Paddy Leavy (Ballygunner), Cian Wadding (Roanmore), Oisín O’Gorman (Lismore) and James Power (Clonea). Of these, Furlong and Loftus also player Minor in 2019.

I would also mention Jack Ó Floinn (An Rinn) who was an ever-present on the Waterford Minor teams in both 2018 and 2019, and his clubmate Oisín Ó Ceallaigh who was on the 2018 Minor team and last year’s Under 20 team. Sam Fitzgerald (Clashmore-Kinsalebeg), who did a great marking job on Mikey Kearney in the Western Intermediate final, was also on the 2018 minor team and 2019 Under 20 team, as were Abbeyside’s Michael Kiely and Tourin’s Gavin Fives. Fives played at centre back on the 2018 Minor team and scored an heroic winning point against Tipperary in Thurles.

Players from last year’s Minor team (which was also very competitive) who made a splash in this year’s senior club championship were Cárthach Daly (Lismore), Reuben Halloran (De La Salle), Aaron Ryan (Fourmilewater), Johnny Burke (Dungarvan) and Mikey Cummins (Passage).

Other young players who first came to my notice this year are Seán Walsh (Fourmilewater), PJ Fanning (Mount Sion) and Liam Flynn (Passage). Are any of these eligible for Under 20 this year? Are there any other genuine contenders whom I have left out?

Excluding the last three mentioned, these are 18 good players who are eligible for this year’s county Under 20 team. A lot of these are big, strong, players who are good in the air.

From these 18 players I would have a shot at a team along the following lines:

Full backs: Sam Fitzgerald; Luke O’Brien; Jack Ó Floinn
Half backs: Cárthach Daly; Rory Furlong; Gavin Fives
Midfield: Paddy Leavy; Kevin Mahony
Half forwards: Johnny Burke; Mikey Cummins; James Power
Full forwards: Reuben Halloran; Michael Kiely; Oisín Ó Ceallaigh

Subs: Cian Wadding; Tristan Loftus; Aaron Ryan; Oisín O’Gorman

Does anyone know a good goalie?

You’ve mentioned some good players alright but in Terms of picking a team your well off

bigdog95

Deisegodeo wrote: »

so is Montgomery apparently after today's game

Not really a great look from the Waterford hurling management to have 2 players having injuries coming from probable overtraining. Especially after interviews earlier in the year from Cahill speaking about respect to clubs and players.

A downside to having the inter county season starting so close to the finish of club football.

whiteandblue

bigdog95 wrote: »

Not really a great look from the Waterford hurling management to have 2 players having injuries coming from probable overtraining. Especially after interviews earlier in the year from Cahill speaking about respect to clubs and players.

A downside to having the inter county season starting so close to the finish of club football.

Cahill or overtraining because of a return to county training can't be blamed for these injuries, these players only went back training with the county last Tuesday and lads with matches the weekend with their clubs wouldn't have trained Friday night or Sunday morning if they'd a match that day.

Conor Prunty got injured Tuesday on their first night back so I couldn't see how that's overtraining and Montgomery has been playing both codes with his club and hurling with UCC so perhaps has being too much all along but again not down to Cahill or Waterford intercounty training.

Obviously the panel have missed out on a lot of training and matches together and it's a tough situation with the club championship scene still going but all in all, Cahill will have the majority of his panel for the next 5 weeks to prepare for Cork and every panel member will be finished clubs 3 weeks before the Cork match which wasn't always the case for opening Munster championship matches in the past.

tommylad1212

whiteandblue wrote: »

Cahill or overtraining because of a return to county training can't be blamed for these injuries, these players only went back training with the county last Tuesday and lads with matches the weekend with their clubs wouldn't have trained Friday night or Sunday morning if they'd a match that day.

Conor Prunty got injured Tuesday on their first night back so I couldn't see how that's overtraining and Montgomery has been playing both codes with his club and hurling with UCC so perhaps has being too much all along but again not down to Cahill or Waterford intercounty training.

Obviously the panel have missed out on a lot of training and matches together and it's a tough situation with the club championship scene still going but all in all, Cahill will have the majority of his panel for the next 5 weeks to prepare for Cork and every panel member will be finished clubs 3 weeks before the Cork match which wasn't always the case for opening Munster championship matches in the past.

Lads did train Friday night with football matches the weekend not all players did but some