August weather ONLY MOD NOTE : #213

Kenring · 29-07-2013 9:21am

ch750536 wrote: »

It's never going to work with Ken on this site, which saddens me. Not due to Ken (I only had an issue with his selling on this site) but for the complete lack of tolerance from others. Let his forecasts do the talking but fairly, as you would anyone else on this site.
If for nothing more than something to smile at in the wet & windy August.

It is usually the case that people attack when they feel threatened. This is for the attackers to address, and it has nothing to do with my forecasts. Neither has it anything to do with lunar methodology because other forecasters here also use it.

Conmaicne Mara · 29-07-2013 9:59am

This is all getting a bit old now. I thought this was the weather forum not the sniping & bitching forum.

JM Skipton · 29-07-2013 10:14am

Can somebody set up a "ken Ring" thread if they want to discuss him, I personally am more interested in finding out about "August weather" as the thread suggests

Monkaa · 29-07-2013 10:18am

Right guys, what way is it looking for this Saturday? Putting on a garden party! I just want it to be dry, don't mind if its cool, over cast etc...so bring me good news

Kenring · 29-07-2013 10:29am

JM Skipton wrote: »

Can somebody set up a "ken Ring" thread if they want to discuss him, I personally am more interested in finding out about "August weather" as the thread suggests

Me too. That's the title I posted. It's up to mods to keep it on topic.

vicwatson · 29-07-2013 10:41am

Kenring wrote: »

Me too. That's the title I posted. It's up to mods to keep it on topic.

I say its up to posters to keep it on topic

weisses · 29-07-2013 10:43am

SeaFields wrote: »

A section of the Ring of Kerry between Glenbeigh and Cahersiveen is closed this evening after a landslide due to torrential rain.

Yeah and we got sunshine the whole day with a nice bbq to finish .... so he was right as far as I'm concerned ...

OU812 · 29-07-2013 12:10pm

Just leaving the house in north Dublin for a family picnic.

Skies just opened with thunder & monsoon rain.

Is it worth out while going?

mitresize5 · 29-07-2013 12:28pm

Move on from the Ken thing already!!!

So the biggest bank holiday of the summer is this weekend. Do I pack my factor 20 or my rain jacket for my trip to West Clare (or both)

MTC - seems to be a bit more hopeful that Met Eireann - both noncommittal but MTC leaning to a moer positive out look

Whats the story

Kenring · 29-07-2013 12:31pm

mitresize5 wrote: »

Move on from the Ken thing already!!!

So the biggest bank holiday of the summer is this weekend. Do I pack my factor 20 or my rain jacket for my trip to West Clare (or both)

MTC - seems to be a bit more hopeful that Met Eireann - both noncommittal but MTC leaning to a moer positive out look

Whats the story

Well, I could answer but it doesn't sound as if you want my opinion.

Davaeo09 · 29-07-2013 1:12pm

Kenring wrote: »

Well, I could answer but it doesn't sound as if you want my opinion.

Why would he post if he didn't? Or does he need to submit he's question to you in pdf form? :P

Kenring · 29-07-2013 1:22pm

Davaeo09 wrote: »

Why would he post if he didn't? Or does he need to submit he's question to you in pdf form? :P

Well, because he said "move on from the ken thing already". I'm not sure if that meant moving on from my postings. I suggest from now on it would make better sense if requests for particular dates were sent to my email ken@predictweather.com
That way there would be no need for unpleasantness when I make a recommendation. We have already seen what happened when I responded to the request for the next 6 days.

Davaeo09 · 29-07-2013 1:31pm

I was joking

Doff · 29-07-2013 1:33pm

Ken, will we be getting snow this Christmas? Thinking of proposing to the missus and want it to be romantic and ****.

mitresize5 · 29-07-2013 1:34pm

Kenring wrote: »

Well, I could answer but it doesn't sound as if you want my opinion.

sweet Jesus - paranoia now as well in this thread

I asked for peoples opinion and .....

actually don't bother - could some one just PM me when this thread starts talking about the weather again. Cheers

Kenring · 29-07-2013 1:42pm

mitresize5 wrote: »

sweet Jesus - paranoia now as well in this thread

I asked for peoples opinion and .....

actually don't bother - could some one just PM me when this thread starts talking about the weather again. Cheers

No, it's not good enough. If posters have to take charge then I will do so. I'm sick of the negatives and no one is moderating to keep the thread well-mannered. I don't have to come on here, I did so to be helpful. My offer stands, email me privately if you really wish to know, otherwise I'm inclined to think requests are just entrapments to stitch me up. If I notice the thread improving then maybe I'll reconsider things. cheers

Monkaa · 29-07-2013 1:47pm

Seen as Im getting no where with my weather question in the August thread due to the bickering going on I thought Id start a new thread...Im holding a garden party this Saturday in Dublin so was wondering what the verdict is for this weekends weather? Thanking you

pistolpetes11 · 29-07-2013 1:53pm

Rite folks , discuss the weather and that is all. Open a thread on ken's methods if you wish to discuss them ,

Infractions / bans from here on in

mitresize5 · 29-07-2013 1:56pm

So the biggest bank holiday of the summer is this weekend. Do I pack my factor 20 or my rain jacket for my trip to West Clare (or both)

MTC - seems to be a bit more hopeful that Met Eireann - both noncommittal but MTC leaning to a moer positive out look

Whats the story :-) :-)

pistolpetes11 · 29-07-2013 2:05pm

Ive merged a few threads into this one as there all on the same topic "Augusts Weather"

JM Skipton · 29-07-2013 2:09pm

mitresize5 wrote: »

So the biggest bank holiday of the summer is this weekend. Do I pack my factor 20 or my rain jacket for my trip to West Clare (or both)

MTC - seems to be a bit more hopeful that Met Eireann - both noncommittal but MTC leaning to a moer positive out look

Whats the story :-) :-)

Unfortunately from the charts I have looked at combined with ME forecast you will very much need your brolly and rain coat, possibility of better weather from mid week next week.
Weekend also looks to be slightly cooler as well. But like any prediction pinch of salt needed.

Monkaa · 30-07-2013 8:28am

JM Skipton wrote: »

Unfortunately from the charts I have looked at combined with ME forecast you will very much need your brolly and rain coat, possibility of better weather from mid week next week.
Weekend also looks to be slightly cooler as well. But like any prediction pinch of salt needed.

I hope your wrong & MT is right who predicts the east will be dry

dopolahpec · 30-07-2013 8:59am

Monkaa wrote: »

I hope your wrong & MT is right who predicts the east will be dry

If the east is dry this weekend I will eat my hat.

Monkaa · 30-07-2013 9:54am

Hope it's made of chocolate then

I know we prob won't escape the rain at this stage but pray it won't be a wash out & the garden party turns into a house party which I do not want!

bbam · 30-07-2013 2:40pm

So where is best to head?
We had planned on heading to the west over the weekend, would south east be a better bet??

JM Skipton · 30-07-2013 2:43pm

bbam wrote: »

So where is best to head?
We had planned on heading to the west over the weekend, would south east be a better bet??

There is a chance the south east may remain completely dry this weekend, Johnstown Castle has been the driest station in July so probably if you were making an educated guess the south wexford/waterford direction may be the best option

omicron · 30-07-2013 2:55pm

bbam wrote: »

So where is best to head?
We had planned on heading to the west over the weekend, would south east be a better bet??

Probably 9 times out of 10 south east is a better bet when it comes to rainfall! Still going to be showery though I'd say!

Red Pepper · 30-07-2013 6:31pm

Do people think the second half of August will be warm and sunny like Ken and MT have suggested?

Birtles · 31-07-2013 9:56am

Red Pepper wrote: »

Do people think the second half of August will be warm and sunny like Ken and MT have suggested?

Accuweather are also giving a warm and sunny 2nd half to August. i know many people don't like this site but find it fairly sound for forecasts

Old diesel · 31-07-2013 1:24pm

Birtles wrote: »

Accuweather are also giving a warm and sunny 2nd half to August. i know many people don't like this site but find it fairly sound for forecasts

Looking at GFS just now (06 z run) - pressure is trying to build early next week - drops again around the 11th - but on the last day of the run (15th) it attempts to increase again.

Keep remembering the 1st week of Sept 2012 - to keep the spirits up - the good weather that week came completely againsed the run of play and out of nothing

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So anythings possible.

Kenring · 31-07-2013 1:31pm

Birtles wrote: »

Accuweather are also giving a warm and sunny 2nd half to August. i know many people don't like this site but find it fairly sound for forecasts

As far as I can tell, Joe Bastardi, MTC and myself are all using lunar methods, so our recommendations are going to be parallel.

Lumi · 31-07-2013 1:42pm

Birtles wrote: »

Accuweather are also giving a warm and sunny 2nd half to August. i know many people don't like this site but find it fairly sound for forecasts

Kenring wrote: »

As far as I can tell, Joe Bastardi, MTC and myself are all using lunar methods, so our recommendations are going to be parallel.

But none of them are connected with Accuweather

Kenring · 31-07-2013 1:49pm

Lumi wrote: »

But none of them are connected with Accuweather

Joe worked with/for Accuweather until a year or two ago, when he joined WeatherBell. I had an email correspondence with him at one stage. That's how I know all three of us use lunar methods.

Lumi · 31-07-2013 2:03pm

Kenring wrote: »

Joe worked with/for Accuweather until a year or two ago, when he joined WeatherBell. I had an email correspondence with him at one stage. That's how I know all three of us use lunar methods.

He resigned in February 2011 and currently has no connection with Accuweather

As Birties is discussing the current Accuweather prediction for August I just wonder why you would mention him and yourself and MTC for that matter. Accuweather most certainly do not employ lunar methodologies so any parallels between their forecast and yours cannot be attributed to that.

Does anyone have a WeatherBell subscription? Id be interested to know what Joe Bastardi has actually predicted for August. There doesn't seem to be as many European updates from him floating about on the interweb these days

Red Pepper · 31-07-2013 2:10pm

Kenring wrote: »

As far as I can tell, Joe Bastardi, MTC and myself are all using lunar methods, so our recommendations are going to be parallel.

Thanks Ken. I have often found accuweather "accurate" so my confidence is even higher now for my "staycation" during last 2 weeks of August.

Kenring · 31-07-2013 2:13pm

Lumi wrote: »

He resigned in February 2011 and currently has no connection with Accuweather

As Birties is discussing the current Accuweather prediction for August I just wonder why you would mention him and yourself and MTC for that matter. Accuweather most certainly do not employ lunar methodologies so any parallels between their forecast and yours cannot be attributed to that.

Does anyone have a WeatherBell subscription? Id be interested to know what Joe Bastardi has actually predicted for August. There doesn't seem to be as many European updates from him floating about on the interweb these days

I mention it because longrange forecasters I have been associated with or come to hear about all would use lunar in some way. Piers Corbyn of Weather Action and Richard Holle of Aerology also do because I have also corresponded with them in the past, so does Old Farmers Almanac in the US because they say so. Not sure about Old Moore's but I would be most surprised if they did not. Michael Gallagher of Donnegal uses the moon indirectly - nature responds to the moon via perigees which control kingtides and therefore water tables, e.g sap levels in trees. Even pure astrologers would admit that the Moon in the 4th House is 50% of all weather, although I would venture it would go to 80% at times.

Kenring · 31-07-2013 2:19pm

Red Pepper wrote: »

Thanks Ken. I have often found accuweather "accurate" so my confidence is even higher now for my "staycation" during last 2 weeks of August.

There is the chance of light shower activity between 21st-22nd especially in the south, and may extend to the 25th in central counties only, but nothing that won't pass quickly. The sunniest is 12th-20th and 26th-30th.

Lumi · 31-07-2013 2:36pm

Kenring wrote: »

There is the chance of light shower activity between 21st-22nd especially in the south, and may extend to the 25th in central counties only, but nothing that won't pass quickly. The sunniest is 12th-20th and 26th-30th.

I just checked AccuWeather.com there out of idle interest and they are now forecasting rain/showers and temps in the high teens right up to Aug 18th. It's in contrast to yours Ken so they're obviously not using the same methodologies

Today's ECM output seems to support that but its just one model run, time will tell I suppose.

Kenring · 31-07-2013 3:35pm

Lumi wrote: »

I just checked AccuWeather.com there out of idle interest and they are now forecasting rain/showers and temps in the high teens right up to Aug 18th. It's in contrast to yours Ken so they're obviously not using the same methodologies

Today's ECM output seems to support that but its just one model run, time will tell I suppose.

Well, all I know is that Joe gave me the impression he was a lunar man. I have no reason to change that. If you are saying that Accu are changing things then they are no longer lunar, they are using other models. There is no need to change a lunar forecast, just as there is never a need to change tide tables as a particular day approaches.

relaxed · 31-07-2013 4:05pm

Kenring wrote: »

There is the chance of light shower activity between 21st-22nd especially in the south, and may extend to the 25th in central counties only, but nothing that won't pass quickly. The sunniest is 12th-20th and 26th-30th.

According to your forecast this Saturday, Sunday and Monday are going to be dry, but met eireann are forecasting rain each day.

Why do you bother trying to forecast so accurately when clearly its a hit and miss, stopped clock right twice a day system?

Hoochiemama · 31-07-2013 4:14pm

Jesus lads will yee RELAX!!! Stop having a go at the man for doing a forecast. What next? Burn him at the stake?

Birroc · 31-07-2013 4:45pm

Hoochiemama wrote: »

Jesus lads will yee RELAX!!! Stop having a go at the man for doing a forecast. What next? Burn him at the stake?

Agreed. "relaxed" clearly has an issue. It's not his 1st swipe.

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Ruudi_Mentari · 31-07-2013 9:05pm

Seems autumnal out already right....

And I guess that is what dictates us. Or certainly me; i tend to slip into seasonal character and it almost perpetually feels like The Halloween season!

Now where's my Michael Myers mask.

inabina · 31-07-2013 9:41pm

Evelyn confident of unsettled weather for next 10 days....anyone comfortable to disagree with her?

Duck's hoop · 31-07-2013 10:09pm

If she said 20 she probably wouldn't be too far wrong.

fits · 31-07-2013 10:15pm

Leaving Ireland again on 11th. Looks like summer is over for me

Old diesel · 31-07-2013 10:35pm

inabina wrote: »

Evelyn confident of unsettled weather for next 10 days....anyone comfortable to disagree with her?

How would one interpret this line from MT Cranium from his forecast this morning - referring I believe to next week.

"The following week looks somewhat improved with higher pressures building in"

Met Eireann are always saying how they can only forecast up to 10 days in advance - with reliability decreasing the further out you go. :rolleyes:.

Don't know how she can make the call so far out - could be a completely different line in a couple of days time

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Birtles · 31-07-2013 10:41pm

Lumi wrote: »

He resigned in February 2011 and currently has no connection with Accuweather

As Birties is discussing the current Accuweather prediction for August I just wonder why you would mention him and yourself and MTC for that matter. Accuweather most certainly do not employ lunar methodologies so any parallels between their forecast and yours cannot be attributed to that.

Does anyone have a WeatherBell subscription? Id be interested to know what Joe Bastardi has actually predicted for August. There doesn't seem to be as many European updates from him floating about on the interweb these days

I dont have a weatherbell sub but thought about it. Always found Joe Bastardi to be an excellent source for medium range weather for us.

Kenring · 31-07-2013 10:48pm

relaxed wrote: »

According to your forecast this Saturday, Sunday and Monday are going to be dry, but met eireann are forecasting rain each day.

Why do you bother trying to forecast so accurately when clearly its a hit and miss, stopped clock right twice a day system?

Met Eireann said (on 14 May, link posted here) that this would be "a washout summer" for Ireland. You writing to them?

August weather ONLY MOD NOTE : #213

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