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Do men bother approaching women anymore?

  • 28-05-2017 9:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Something I heard on the radio the other day got me thinking. A woman sent in an email saying how men never seem to approach women on nights out anymore. It's something I've noticed myself, that a lot of guys don't really seem bothered to make an effort. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't appear to be as common now. Is it just because of online dating or are there other reasons?


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  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Something I heard on the radio the other day got me thinking. A woman sent in an email saying how men never seem to approach women on nights out anymore. It's something I've noticed myself, that a lot of guys don't really seem bothered to make an effort. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't appear to be as common now. Is it just because of online dating or are there other reasons?

    All the time.

    I've never gone out for the night and not been approached, even when I'm with someone I'd still get approached on the way to the bathroom.

    It's not that I'm a supermodel either, I'm attractive enough but nothing spectacular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭tkd93


    Apps like Tinder probably making it happen less. I suppose less chance of making a fool of yourself in person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,499 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Dating apps make things too convenient now, sure why talk to people when you can make a split second decision about them?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭SimpleDimples


    As a woman, I just assumed that the drop in male attention was because I'm getting older!

    This thread was made me happy even if its not true! Should have known I was still a ride ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Candie wrote: »
    All the time.

    I've never gone out for the night and not been approached, even when I'm with someone I'd still get approached on the way to the bathroom.

    It's not that I'm a supermodel either, I'm attractive enough but nothing spectacular.

    Really? Not even once? That must get exhausting.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    On a night out, I couldn't be bothered anymore tbh, I'd rather give it loads with my friends and get flutered


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Check the time mate.

    It's 21:53 28/05/2017

    We're past the need for gender exclusive rules for dating at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    There is no way to approach a female without giving off the impression that you are a psycho or a sex offender.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Course they do. Anytime I am out I see girls being approached constantly.

    Don't do much of it myself these days but that's just cause generally I prefer to wait for girls/women to chat to me first... much better... it's just not as easy as it once for whatever reason. Any of my mates who are still single say the same... the response to even saying hello to women nowadays can be ott to say the least, not sure why and I couldn't be arsed dealing with that level of obnoxiousness on a night out and so unless I am getting lots of eye contact from someone, and major flirtatious signals sent my way... then I don't bother 'approaching' anyone......... but yeah, I see it all the time... and I see all the differing responses too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    Something I heard on the radio the other day got me thinking. A woman sent in an email saying how men never seem to approach women on nights out anymore. It's something I've noticed myself, that a lot of guys don't really seem bothered to make an effort. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't appear to be as common now. Is it just because of online dating or are there other reasons?

    Online porn. My generation who tend to be more socially awkward in general;a plethora of reasons for that. Increased male and female obesity. General decline over the past few decades in testosterone. Tinder. People addicted to their smartphones in clubs, pubs, all of that.

    As for lads approaching, its generally average to slightly above average women that get approached from what I've seen. Uglier wans seem to be approached more, with good looking wans approached the least.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    There is no way to approach a female without giving off the impression that you are a psycho or a sex offender.

    Especially if you're approaching Coronation Street fans, Richie

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Candie wrote: »
    All the time.

    I've never gone out for the night and not been approached, even when I'm with someone I'd still get approached on the way to the bathroom.

    It's not that I'm a supermodel either, I'm attractive enough but nothing spectacular.


    Now imagine that person could follow you to the bathroom and still approach you as you pee.

    Would you like that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Now imagine that person could follow you to the bathroom and still approach you as you pee.

    Would you like that?

    Ya wha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    There is no way to approach a female without giving off the impression that you are a psycho or a sex offender.

    What? You know the way you talk to lads? Just do that.

    Its really not difficult to talk to people on a night out, male or female.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    I actually rarely approach girls on a night out. I wouldnt go out with the intention of it like i would have before tinder.

    On nights out myself and my friends can just get wrecked together and go on tinder another day to get the shift.
    Picking up girls aand getting the shift does happen but i wouldnt go out of my way to get it.
    Tinder can be just as easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Ya wha?


    Gender neutral restrooms. It's all the rage at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    Gender neutral restrooms. It's all the rage at the moment.

    Yeah but....there are still cubicles...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    s4uv3 wrote: »
    Yeah but....there are still cubicles...


    And urinals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Pretty much the same here. Not that I've never had a night out without being chatted up but it would definitely happen more often than not if in a bar.

    Don't think much has changed over the years.

    I would be the opposite. The odd time I'd get approached or men would make passing comments, but generally I dont. And I'm not exactly hideous, fairly average I would say! This thread is making me feel I may have judged wrongly though :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    And urinals.

    I don't know a single woman who'd piss in a urinal over a toilet.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Bring back the slow dance I say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    s4uv3 wrote: »
    I don't know a single woman who'd piss in a urinal over a toilet.

    That's not the point I was making.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭s4uv3


    That's not the point I was making.

    What was your point then? Enlighten me, I'm not having the sharpest day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    We just prefer a big bag of cans with the lads than chasing girls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    neonsofa wrote: »
    I would be the opposite. The odd time I'd get approached or men would make passing comments, but generally I dont. And I'm not exactly hideous, fairly average I would say! This thread is making me feel I may have judged wrongly though :o

    Honestly, its not always purely about looks as well. You could take two women who look similar, but one is constantly in the corner with her group of friends and is a bit more shy/reserved or not quite as socially confident, and the other woman could be a lot more relaxed and comfortable in the environment, wandering around the place and just generally giving off the vibe of being more open to conversation.

    If you're a guy at the bar ordering a drink and a girl comes up and she's bopping away to the music and looking like she's relaxed and enjoying herself, you're far more likely to say hello or make a comment of some sort than if a girl comes up with a vibe that isn't as social.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,499 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    pilly wrote: »

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    Solid generalisation there :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    Have you approached guys? or is that only things men should do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    We just prefer a big bag of cans with the lads than chasing girls.

    I think there's some truth in this. I like the social mindset that's in a lot of Irish groups where they are just heading out to have a laugh with their friends, enjoy the music and get inebriated. No plans to go out doggedly looking for women.
    Foreign women tend to be more approachable

    I don't think this is true at all. Could genuinely be that you've had more positive experiences with foreign women, so when you see one you approach with more confidence and are a bit more relaxed. Mindset, confidence and body language are massive in all interactions - male or female.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Have you approached guys? or is that only things men should do?


    I have done when I was younger yeah.

    Now I don't go to clubs or pubs but if I thought a guy was interesting looking I would try start a conversation with a question or something yeah.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Knex. wrote:
    I don't think this is true at all.

    It depends. There are some foreign women looking for Irish husbands.

    Eastern European women on the other hand have a total disdain for Irish men and I find it quite rude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    I've had American women walk across a room to chat me up numerous times. Never has happened with an Irish woman. I'd say that generalisation of yours could be a label of reservation for all our citizens.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    We just prefer a big bag of cans with the lads than chasing girls.


    The reason there are so many old alcoholic bachelors.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    .
    And??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    If a bloke did that in this country he would be considered weird though :confused:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Knex. wrote:
    I've had American women walk across a room to chat me up numerous times. Never has happened with an Irish woman. I'd say that generalisation of yours could be a label of reservation for all our citizens.


    Yeah you're right there actually.

    I've often said to younger girls "just go over and start a conversation" and they wouldn't dream of it.

    As you get older you kinda get more confidence I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Really? Not even once? That must get exhausting.


    I'm not a good looking woman, and even I will get approached if left alone by my mates for 10 minutes. Granted, it's largely by dudes who are 20 years my senior, but still...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Really? Not even once? That must get exhausting.


    I'm not a good looking woman, and even I will get approached if left alone by my mates for 10 minutes. Granted, it's largely by dudes who are 20 years my senior, but still...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    And??


    We had a coffee and a chat for about an hour, it was great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I do. Plus I'm working in American and England with an Irish accent. It's like fishing with dynamite.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    pilly wrote: »
    In Canada recently and a guy actually approached me in a cafe! Such a refreshing approach.

    Made my day.

    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    That's not really a fair assessment i think, its not the done thing here and most women would recoil in horror if some guy approached them sober in a cafe in Ireland.

    Saying that we are in the age of equality now, approaching the opposite sex is stressful. Its about time women started doing their fair share of approaching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Knex. wrote: »
    Honestly, its not always purely about looks as well. You could take two women who look similar, but one is constantly in the corner with her group of friends and is a bit more shy/reserved or not quite as socially confident, and the other woman could be a lot more relaxed and comfortable in the environment, wandering around the place and just generally giving off the vibe of being more open to conversation.

    If you're a guy at the bar ordering a drink and a girl comes up and she's bopping away to the music and looking like she's relaxed and enjoying herself, you're far more likely to say hello or make a comment of some sort than if a girl comes up with a vibe that isn't as social.

    Oh I wasn't looking for ways to get them to approach me, but thanks for the info! :)
    I just enjoy my night out, it doesn't matter to me how I appear to others. I don't actually want male attention on my nights out, I was just making an observation in the context of the thread. I have plenty of conversations and some of my closest friends have been made on nights out from talking to strangers-men and women. I just don't get "hit on" :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    pilly wrote: »
    Have had the same experience all over the continent.

    I think irish men lack balls to be honest.

    It happens more on the continent because women on the continent are more respective to it, in my view. My brother wouldn't be the type to approach women, quite a shy guy but when he went to live in Spain I couldn't believe the change in him, he was approaching women all the type. When I said it to him he just said it wasn't a conscious thing, just that it's more a way of life and so you do it without even thinking about it. It's not as goal orientated there either. I stayed with him once out there and it was so much different to tourist spots. Spanish way of life is really cool in a whole lot of different ways socially speaking and not just with regards to approaching women.

    You don't see many people locked out of their heads for one.... which helps I suppose, as nobody (of either gender) wants some slurring fool chatting them up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    If a bloke did that in this country he would be considered weird though


    I don't think so. It depends how you do it.

    Anyway, who cares if a stranger thinks you're weird?

    My daughter is always mortified about things like that and my answer is always the same.

    "If they're strangers why do you care what they think?"


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭indioblack


    Something I heard on the radio the other day got me thinking. A woman sent in an email saying how men never seem to approach women on nights out anymore. It's something I've noticed myself, that a lot of guys don't really seem bothered to make an effort. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't appear to be as common now. Is it just because of online dating or are there other reasons?

    I never bother approaching women.
    Retreating women occasionally, and sometimes women moving transversely.
    But never when they are approaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    pilly wrote: »
    Bring back the slow dance I say!

    Bit of Chris de Burgh's Lady in Red. Then over to the bar for a pint of stout for yourself and a glass of Liebfraumilch for the smitten lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,203 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Something I heard on the radio the other day got me thinking. A woman sent in an email saying how men never seem to approach women on nights out anymore. It's something I've noticed myself, that a lot of guys don't really seem bothered to make an effort. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't appear to be as common now. Is it just because of online dating or are there other reasons?


    Ahh it does, still happens all the time, just depends on where you're hanging out really. One thing I've definitely noticed over the years is an increase in the numbers of women who aren't afraid to approach men. People in Ireland at least are still approaching each other in fairly equal numbers I would say.

    Of course though if nobody is approaching you (not you personally Mr. V, the woman on the radio I mean), you're going to be far more attuned to who else is and isn't approaching who! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    It happens more on the continent because women on the continent are more respective to it, in my view. My brother wouldn't be the type to approach women, quite a shy guy but when he went to live in Spain I couldn't believe the change in him, he was approaching women all the type. When I said it to him he just said it wasn't a conscious thing, just that it's more a way of life and so you do it without even thinking about it. It's not as goal orientated there either. I stayed with him once out there and it was so much different to tourist spots. Spanish way of life is really cool in a whole lot of different ways socially speaking and not just with regards to approaching women.


    Yeah you're probably right there. It is more acceptable in some countries.

    But I'll be honest I've never known a woman (not talking young onrs now) who didn't like it so maybe things should change here.

    I don't drink and don't do tinder so it's not easy to meet someone unless I take risks like talking to strangers in strange places.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    It happens more on the continent because women on the continent are more respective to it, in my view. My brother wouldn't be the type to approach women, quite a shy guy but when he went to live in Spain I couldn't believe the change in him, he was approaching women all the type. When I said it to him he just said it wasn't a conscious thing, just that it's more a way of life and so you do it without even thinking about it. It's not as goal orientated there either. I stayed with him once out there and it was so much different to tourist spots. Spanish way of life is really cool in a whole lot of different ways socially speaking and not just with regards to approaching women.


    Yeah you're probably right there. It is more acceptable in some countries.

    But I'll be honest I've never known a woman (not talking young onrs now) who didn't like it so maybe things should change here.

    I don't drink and don't do tinder so it's not easy to meet someone unless I take risks like talking to strangers in strange places.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Knex. wrote: »
    I think there's some truth in this. I like the social mindset that's in a lot of Irish groups where they are just heading out to have a laugh with their friends, enjoy the music and get inebriated. No plans to go out doggedly looking for women.



    I don't think this is true at all. Could genuinely be that you've had more positive experiences with foreign women, so when you see one you approach with more confidence and are a bit more relaxed. Mindset, confidence and body language are massive in all interactions - male or female.


    Yeah. Its only really changed in the last few years.
    I can easily get a tinderella so there isnt any pressure on a night out to look for girls and be pissed you didnt pull. I prefer it that way to be honest, if the shift comes, the shift comes. I dont wanna waste my night chasing girls.

    I have more fun skulling pints and being with the lads especially if i haven't gone home in a while


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