Woman stabbed near IFSC

Thelonious Monk · 21-01-2021 6:30pm

The hatchet in the skull was across the river around Pearse St, think it was part of the decades old Sheriffer V Pearse St gang wars.

Valresnick · 21-01-2021 7:17pm

Could the 22 million for white water rafting be given to the Gardaí ? I really really cannot understand why Gardaí are not on the beat anymore ?

Witcher · 21-01-2021 7:27pm

Valresnick wrote: »

Could the 22 million for white water rafting be given to the Gardaí ? I really really cannot understand why Gardaí are not on the beat anymore ?

It's because districts are bigger and more spread out now than years ago. Also because often the numbers aren't there, eg. four to a unit...two for the car, two in the station, no beat. If there are extra bodies, chances are there still won't be a beat because the time you're not in the car is a chance to get paperwork done.

Say for instance there was a beat along with the car(s), one car crew tied up at a messy call, another car gets a prisoner and could be out of action for hours, calls still coming in, grand beat over...into the car and start clearing calls. That's assuming there are bodies to get into the car, if there's not, calls could be holding for hours.

Like a lot of police elsewhere, there isn't a whole lot of capacity for proactive work atm.

21-01-2021 7:33pm

Valresnick wrote: »

Could the 22 million for white water rafting be given to the Gardaí ? I really really cannot understand why Gardaí are not on the beat anymore ?

There needs to be a comprehensive plan to deal with the problems,
just giving money to any organisation or dept isnt going to solve the problem/s

1.prison spaces needed, start building 1-2 new prisons, 22mil isnt going to make a dent in that,
2.Rehab and social services in prison,
3. Review/overhaul judicial problems, why are they getting out/so soon, spaces..see 1. reoffending..see 2. revolving door, one opportunity at early release/concurrent sentencing after that, serve all sentences consecutively, overhaul sentences to a standard so Judges cant pick and choose by any given Judge, have no leeway to disregard sentences.
4. Beat/Uniformed Gardai carry out public facing interactions/arrests etc, have a specific Dept of the Gardai with branch/station level detectives to investigate as part of a larger investigations unit overall, free up uniformed Gardai to carry out foot/cycle/publicly visible patrols, take on approved civilian admin staff for certain roles, free up more Gardai for foot/cycle/publicly visible patrols
in back up of investigative branch investigations, have a legal dept (appropriate legal staff, solicitors/barristers if needed) to ensure all the legal i's are dotted and t's are crossed, Uniformed Gardai as witness/to give evidence only.

21-01-2021 7:50pm

Valresnick wrote: »

Could the 22 million for white water rafting be given to the Gardaí ? I really really cannot understand why Gardaí are not on the beat anymore ?

The white water rafting facility should not go ahead for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread. It will turn into a white elephant project.

Sort out the scum in the area and then build the white water rafting facility.

21-01-2021 7:56pm

Karson Bitter Snobbery wrote: »

The white water rafting facility should not go ahead for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread. It will turn into a white elephant project.

Sort out the scum in the area and then build the white water rafting facility.

I wouldnt have a white water facility in that location, its just stupid, people are going to bring kayaks/raft there on the bus? No, Im not exactly against it, I think it could be overpriced, maybe, enough money goes into Horses, the Dogs, a facility in Ireland somewhere could be a good thing, Id say a few, but in Dublin, outside the M50, so its accessible by car from all over the city and country, dont just plonk a load of concrete where it will end up having needles thrown into it and need to be checked constantly.
Sort out the junkies and scum too,

Wibbs · 21-01-2021 8:01pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0p8e1MUC0E

This was it in 1991? Jaysus.

Well as others said a lot of it was location dressing for a film, but Sheriff st was always known to be a really rough kip to be avoided at all costs. The IFSC made a difference overall, but left a pocket of old style skangerism in its midst.

Haraldkare · 21-01-2021 8:19pm

Valresnick wrote: »

Could the 22 million for white water rafting be given to the Gardaí ? I really really cannot understand why Gardaí are not on the beat anymore ?

How much money would have been saved by the government in stopping this crime?

fantaiscool · 21-01-2021 8:42pm

Hopefully the scumbag is caught and brought to justice. I don't care what race he is. Judging how little interest there has been in the thread it must be one of our white Irish who committed the crime. Whoever it was needs to be banged up in a cell quickly. Lone women walking at night are a prime target and all women should be aware of this and take precautions.

Junkyard Tom · 21-01-2021 8:55pm

Dublin could do with a Mayor with powers similar to those they get in cities in the US, crack down hard on junkies, violent criminals and such. Someone who is psychopathic enough to stab an innocent person in the neck is usually beyond rehabilitation and should be permanently removed from society.

Kivaro · 21-01-2021 8:56pm

fantaiscool wrote: »

Hopefully the scumbag is caught and brought to justice. I don't care what race he is. Judging how little interest there has been in the thread it must be one of our white Irish who committed the crime.

That is truly an appalling comment.
You should be ashamed of what you just wrote.

Varik · 21-01-2021 9:23pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Dublin could do with a Mayor with powers similar to those they get in cities in the US, crack down hard on junkies, violent criminals and such.

Chances are we'd end up with one who'd go the complete opposite direction.

retalivity · 21-01-2021 9:35pm

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Can anyone else think of a place, not just in Ireland but in Europe, where every store and pharmacy in the area has to have full time security.

Assuming a wage of around €20k, that means the locals must have been robbing and/or shoplifting more than €20k per year from EACH of these businesses in order to justify the wage of the security guard.

Theres a Korean restaurant/pub on mayor st across from the spar that i go to a fair bit over the years, and im shocked that a) its still open and b) has no security at all. Its primarily staffed by young asian students and there were a few times i was there were a crowd of local scobes acting up. Doesnt seem to be a regular thing though, think they most stick to lagoona or go bcak to noctor's

dhaughton99 · 21-01-2021 9:57pm

Varik wrote: »

Chances are we'd end up with one who'd go the complete opposite direction.

You can be guaranteed

Valresnick · 21-01-2021 9:57pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Dublin could do with a Mayor with powers similar to those they get in cities in the US, crack down hard on junkies, violent criminals and such. Someone who is psychopathic enough to stab an innocent person in the neck is usually beyond rehabilitation and should be permanently removed from society.

Dublin Mayor is only a ceremonial ribbon cutting role. No one wants to tackle crime in this country !! Round and round we go !

Dravokivich · 21-01-2021 10:03pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Dublin could do with a Mayor with powers similar to those they get in cities in the US, crack down hard on junkies, violent criminals and such. Someone who is psychopathic enough to stab an innocent person in the neck is usually beyond rehabilitation and should be permanently removed from society.

I think we're better off having a national police force (that is meant to be politically independent of the state) instead of splitting it up into regional forces who'll then answer directly to regional politicians.

Thelonious Monk · 21-01-2021 10:14pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Dublin could do with a Mayor with powers similar to those they get in cities in the US, crack down hard on junkies, violent criminals and such. Someone who is psychopathic enough to stab an innocent person in the neck is usually beyond rehabilitation and should be permanently removed from society.

I don't think cracking down hard on junkies (not a nice term) solves anything. Heroin addicts need help, not batons.

Zookey123 · 21-01-2021 10:30pm

Kivaro wrote: »

That is truly an appalling comment.
You should be ashamed of what you just wrote.

He's not wrong though is he tbf.

Junkyard Tom · 21-01-2021 10:57pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I don't think cracking down hard on junkies (not a nice term) solves anything. Heroin addicts need help, not batons.

They shouldn't be allowed to wander around city centres like zombies harassing people.

smeal · 21-01-2021 11:26pm

Reading this earlier shook me to the core particularly as I would usually walk in and around that area on my way to work before Covid.

To approach someone in the street and just stab them in the neck is the work of a complete psychopath. I understand from reading the article they fled without taking any money and didn’t even bother trying to rob her phone in the process (she managed to call herself an ambulance). An act of pure evil.

No excuse for the Gardaí not being able to track down this person and send a file to the DPP for attempted murder when these scumbags are littering the streets of Dublin at the moment in open sight. They were of course always there but managed to lerk in the background with the footfall of commuters and shoppers and tourists.

I can’t stop thinking about this lady. Praying she pulls through from her physical injuries. The psychological injury from this however will probably never heal.

smeal · 21-01-2021 11:42pm

Also this is becoming a scarily common thing. A lady in Balbriggan last weekend was attacked by a gang on her evening walk around a local GAA pitch. They knifed at her and only for her thick coat taking the force of the knife she didn’t sustain any serious injuries. I also believe (and stand to be corrected) they didn’t demand cash or a phone. Again just pure, pure evil.

Thelonious Monk · 21-01-2021 11:46pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

They shouldn't be allowed to wander around city centres like zombies harassing people.

In fairness they're pretty harmless, just not a good look for the city. But what can you do, you can't just ban addicts from going to places.

John_Rambo · 21-01-2021 11:52pm

Dublin needs a dedicated metropolitan police force and a dedicated transport police force like any capitol city to control a small minority of dirtbirds running amok amongst over a million decent, hard working people.

Montage of Feck · 22-01-2021 12:26am

There is currently a severe housing crisis in Dublin. If tax payers were prioritised for social housing in high demand areas the issues discussed on this thread would not significantly exist.

Valresnick · 22-01-2021 12:44am

smeal wrote: »

Reading this earlier shook me to the core particularly as I would usually walk in and around that area on my way to work before Covid.

To approach someone in the street and just stab them in the neck is the work of a complete psychopath. I understand from reading the article they fled without taking any money and didn’t even bother trying to rob her phone in the process (she managed to call herself an ambulance). An act of pure evil.

No excuse for the Gardaí not being able to track down this person and send a file to the DPP for attempted murder when these scumbags are littering the streets of Dublin at the moment in open sight. They were of course always there but managed to lerk in the background with the footfall of commuters and shoppers and tourists.

I can’t stop thinking about this lady. Praying she pulls through from her physical injuries. The psychological injury from this however will probably never heal.

Not a chance of the perpetrator getting done for attempted murder in this country. I can see the headline now. 4 years with 2 years suspended. He’s doing well and engaging with probation services. Our justice system is gone, it’s over. There is no justice anymore. Just keep your head down and hopefully you can avoid any trouble. It’s a very sad state of affairs how we’ve come to this.

22-01-2021 12:49am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

There is currently a severe housing crisis in Dublin. If tax payers were prioritised for social housing in high demand areas the issues discussed on this thread would not significantly exist.

Or if social housing in high-demand areas was scrapped completely. That'd do wonders.

Wander through a social housing estate, one of the old ones, and you can see just by glancing, which houses are the ones that house the scumbags, and which ones are the ones that were bought by the residents.

If everyone living in the high-demand areas had to pay for their house, and it's upkeep, you can be sure the 'quality' of person living there would increase significantly, and the entire city would gentrify overnight.

I'm not saying no social housing in Dublin at all, of course. But keep it to the outer edges and less popular areas. Johnny Knackbag shouldn't be getting a free apartment next door to Tommy Taxpayer, who has paid a quarter of a million for his one. It's a horrendous situation.

Kermit.de.frog · 22-01-2021 1:09am

fantaiscool wrote: »

Hopefully the scumbag is caught and brought to justice.

John Doe1 · 22-01-2021 1:25am

My spanish/mexican housemates were very surprised at the level of wee scumbags about Dublin. In their countries there is crime but the kids at least have respect. We need some send some to do military tranining or something because how we treat this subclass at the moment obviously isnt working.

Also, I see the far left are on here getting mind erections and making the leap that because we have native born scumbags, we need more non-native scumbags to add into the mix because blah blah blah diversity, blah blah foreign cuisine. Nice try:D

dd973 · 22-01-2021 1:39am

I'd only move back to Dublin if it was a decent area, which are exorbitantly priced so little chance of that, nicely sorted out on the Cheshire fringes of Manchester for a fraction of the price, people are nicer and more cheerful here as well than that sour puss city.

...Ghost... · 22-01-2021 3:09am

biko wrote: »

Garda should have stop-and-frisk powers. I assume now this robber was a known criminal.

I wouldn't be in favour of that. The sharpest thing I ever carry on the street is a trolley token, but I don't think the Gards should have the power to stop and frisk without a very good reason.

fantaiscool wrote: »

Hopefully the scumbag is caught and brought to justice. I don't care what race he is. Judging how little interest there has been in the thread it must be one of our white Irish who committed the crime. Whoever it was needs to be banged up in a cell quickly. Lone women walking at night are a prime target and all women should be aware of this and take precautions.

What a racist, sh!tty thing to say. Here's a thought for you....if the victim was a white man, it likely wouldn't have made news at all. White people are prime targets for gobsh1tes trolling the internet.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

In fairness they're pretty harmless, just not a good look for the city. But what can you do, you can't just ban addicts from going to places.

Until they're not. Mostly they are a nuisance, but they are often a danger too. Witnessing a junkie taking a dump on Talbot street in the middle of the day is a sight one cannot unsee.

dd973 wrote: »

I'd only move back to Dublin if it was a decent area, which are exorbitantly priced so little chance of that, nicely sorted out on the Cheshire fringes of Manchester for a fraction of the price, people are nicer and more cheerful here as well than that sour puss city.

You seem very cheerful indeed.

Overheal · 22-01-2021 3:19am

John Doe1 wrote: »

My spanish/mexican housemates were very surprised at the level of wee scumbags about Dublin. In their countries there is crime but the kids at least have respect. We need some send some to do military tranining or something because how we treat this subclass at the moment obviously isnt working.

Also, I see the far left are on here getting mind erections and making the leap that because we have native born scumbags, we need more non-native scumbags to add into the mix because blah blah blah diversity, blah blah foreign cuisine. Nice try:D

You want to give violent sociopaths military training?

I don’t think for a second you’ve thought that through an inch.

dd973 · 22-01-2021 3:30am

...Ghost... wrote: »

You seem very cheerful indeed.

It is a miserable twat of a place, country people (and more so the people down in Munster) have a more broad shouldered and chipper attitude about them, much like the Mancunians and Scousers not far from me.

Loads of Dubs have this hard done by, chippy attitude in tandem with that Capital City arrogance.

...Ghost... · 22-01-2021 3:43am

dd973 wrote: »

It is a miserable twat of a place, country people (and more so the people down in Munster) have a more broad shouldered and chipper attitude about them, much like the Mancunians and Scousers not far from me.

Loads of Dubs have this hard done by, chippy attitude in tandem with that Capital City arrogance.

And yet, here you are in a thread about a crime that happened in Dublin City :rolleyes:

Don't worry about Covid. You're in urgent need of treatment for Pale Envy

DraftDodger · 22-01-2021 3:53am

Fred Cryton wrote: »

Can anyone else think of a place, not just in Ireland but in Europe, where every store and pharmacy in the area has to have full time security.

Assuming a wage of around €20k, that means the locals must have been robbing and/or shoplifting more than €20k per year from EACH of these businesses in order to justify the wage of the security guard.

Yeah loads of places. Parts of London, Madrid, Naples, Rome, Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt, Malmö tó name a few.
Loads of places have thugs just like Dublin.

You need to get out more if you think it's just Dublin that has crime issues.

DraftDodger · 22-01-2021 4:01am

Deleted User wrote: »

Or if social housing in high-demand areas was scrapped completely. That'd do wonders.

Wander through a social housing estate, one of the old ones, and you can see just by glancing, which houses are the ones that house the scumbags, and which ones are the ones that were bought by the residents.

If everyone living in the high-demand areas had to pay for their house, and it's upkeep, you can be sure the 'quality' of person living there would increase significantly, and the entire city would gentrify overnight.

I'm not saying no social housing in Dublin at all, of course. But keep it to the outer edges and less popular areas. Johnny Knackbag shouldn't be getting a free apartment next door to Tommy Taxpayer, who has paid a quarter of a million for his one. It's a horrendous situation.

Social housing isn't free and social tenents are taxpayers just like private house dwellers.

SafeSurfer · 22-01-2021 4:04am

DraftDodger wrote: »

Yeah loads of places. Parts of London, Madrid, Naples, Rome, Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt, Malmö tó name a few.
Loads of places have thugs just like Dublin.

You need to get out more if you think it's just Dublin that has crime issues.

I have never seen a security guard in a pharmacy in Frankfurt, including the red light district, Bahnhofsviertel,
Gallus and Gutleutviertel.

22-01-2021 5:10am

DraftDodger wrote: »

Social housing isn't free and social tenents are taxpayers just like private house dwellers.

If your landlord gives you 200 a week, and politely asks for 30 back to pay for the rent, it's free.

ILoveYourVibes · 22-01-2021 5:22am

Fred Cryton wrote: »

A woman was stabbed in the neck near IFSC as she walked home from work.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/woman-stabbed-neck-horror-mugging-23358963

If we have anti-terrorist police and police operations everywhere targeting terrorist attacks, why don't we have anti-welfare class police to protect the rest of us from this group of people? And everything that comes from that, informants, surveillance etc so we can put these people behind bars where they belong. IFSC should have a security camera on every corner but it doesn't.

Is there any other general group you want to blame for this?

Its lazy and rather emotional thinking on your part if you don't mind my saying.

Tyrone212 · 22-01-2021 7:33am

John Doe1 wrote: »

My spanish/mexican housemates were very surprised at the level of wee scumbags about Dublin. In their countries there is crime but the kids at least have respect. We need some send some to do military tranining or something because how we treat this subclass at the moment obviously isnt working.

Also, I see the far left are on here getting mind erections and making the leap that because we have native born scumbags, we need more non-native scumbags to add into the mix because blah blah blah diversity, blah blah foreign cuisine. Nice try:D

You'd really want to educate yourself about crime in Mexico. There's kids there who are hit men. Gang crime involving youngsters is off the scale. To imply Ireland is worse is just staggering. Such a naive comment. Don't see what this has to do with far left either but sure get your wee nonsensical rant in.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 7:43am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

In fairness they're pretty harmless, just not a good look for the city. But what can you do, you can't just ban addicts from going to places.

They aren't though, they harass people constantly, which escalates.

I wonder with less people to harass are they getting more desperate.

We need a will within this country to talk about and deal with problems, not constantly kick it down the road

ILoveYourVibes · 22-01-2021 8:02am

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

They aren't though, they harass people constantly, which escalates.

I won't with less people to harass are they getting more desperate.

We need a will within this country to talk about and deal with problems, not constantly kick it down the road

Not all addicts do this.

the individual who did this is alone responsible.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 8:23am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Not all addicts do this.

the individual who did this is alone responsible.

This "not all" is ridiculous.

Of course not all drug addicts, not all of anything do anything except sleep/eat etc. "Not all of..." disqualifies almost every sentence. Druf addicts walking around Dublin IS a problem, not least because they have an addiction which is in itself a bad thing.

Whoever is caught should be done for attempted murder. They will probably get a suspended sentence and a bag of smarties, free to stab someone else.

Thelonious Monk · 22-01-2021 9:19am

Drug addicts walking around Dublin are usually harmless though. I've worked and lived around the city centre for 20 years and I've never seen them do anything apart from annoy people for money, or scream at each other. Anyway what can you do with them? Move the clinics out, yes, but that's not going to happen any time soon, where could you move them to?
Most of the heroin addicts you see in town are from inner city anyway, there's been a problem with heroin in the inner city since the 80s.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 9:20am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Drug addicts walking around Dublin are usually harmless though. I've worked and lived around the city centre for 20 years and I've never seen them do anything apart from annoy people for money, or scream at each other. Anyway what can you do with them? Move the clinics out, yes, but that's not going to happen any time soon, where could you move them to?
Most of the heroin addicts you see in town are from inner city anyway, there's been a problem with heroin in the inner city since the 80s.

I have had to intervene on more than one occasion whet they have hassling old ladies.

It's a problem we have by kicking the can down the road, don't know what the fix would be.

Thelonious Monk · 22-01-2021 9:26am

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

I have had to intervene on more than one occasion whet they have hassling old ladies.

It's a problem we have by kicking the can down the road, don't know what the fix would be.

Yes it's a tricky situation. But I don't think locking everyone up USA style works for anyone. Better social services and support really is the only solution in my opinion, but it would cost a lot of money, a lot of addicts are seriously screwed up from having horrible backgrounds. You only have to look at the way some of these people talk to their children, screaming in their faces etc.

Valresnick · 22-01-2021 9:33am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's a tricky situation. But I don't think locking everyone up USA style works for anyone. Better social services and support really is the only solution in my opinion, but it would cost a lot of money, a lot of addicts are seriously screwed up from having horrible backgrounds. You only have to look at the way some of these people talk to their children, screaming in their faces etc.

Ok fair enough but endless dole, free housing, free health, suspended sentences, no accountability for anything they do isn’t exactly encouraging people to better their lives is it ? This life support provided by the government has to stop if you give nothing but misery and trouble back to society.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 9:34am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes it's a tricky situation. But I don't think locking everyone up USA style works for anyone. Better social services and support really is the only solution in my opinion, but it would cost a lot of money, a lot of addicts are seriously screwed up from having horrible backgrounds. You only have to look at the way some of these people talk to their children, screaming in their faces etc.

I don't think more hugs is going to fix the issue. Indulging people breeds dependence.

There is no political will to seriously look at tackling issues in any case.

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-01-2021 9:36am

Also we have no idea who committed this crime.

Could have been a Google worker

Thelonious Monk · 22-01-2021 9:37am

Valresnick wrote: »

Ok fair enough but endless dole, free housing, free health, suspended sentences, no accountability for anything they do isn’t exactly encouraging people to better their lives is it ? This life support provided by the government has to stop if you give nothing but misery and trouble back to society.

If you stopped helping them in the ways you've listed they'd be even worse and more desperate and more likely to turn to petty crime etc.
I don't think your average male heroin addict on the street has free housing anyway, they all seem to live with some beleaguered parent from my experience of talking to them.
You're not given a free gaf unless you're a woman with kids if I understand correctly.

Thelonious Monk · 22-01-2021 9:38am

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Also we have no idea who committed this crime.

Could have been a Google worker

Not pointing any fingers but trains from Balbriggan go to Connolly Station in the heart of the IFSC #justsayin

Woman stabbed near IFSC

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