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Ireland u20 6 nations and world championship 2021

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  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    bayern wrote: »
    Chris Cosgrave training with Leinster seniors yesterday.

    1978484.jpg

    Second best fullback in leinster at u20


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    bayern wrote: »
    well given his reputation and how some people perceive his potential he should look a class above. His place kicking will be irrelevant to his professional career and deceptively quick doesn't really do it at the top level for a back three player.

    Other than that a very good passing and kicking game, you'd hope would be basics for an academy back especially if the player is undersized for his position.

    Right now i'd rate Andrew Smith and Jack Kelly as better prospects coming out of school, and Cosgrave needs a big u20 season in order to live up to some of the unrealistic hype he got when he was around 16. He could turn out to be a very good player, but it's far from a certainty despite his obvious talents and ability.

    A smaller version of Jimmy O'Brien could be his potential future, a quality rugby player that lacks the elite athleticism to be a top level international.

    Wouldn't necessarily say that Smith and Kelly were better prospects at that age - they were certainly more physically dominant in their age group but that doesn't equal better players long-term. Personally, I would say Cosgrave is a better passer and kicker, and better in the air than both, while the other two were better tackle-breakers. I watched Kelly a few times playing for the A's and his skill-set just wasn't there imo.

    Is cosgrave smaller that Jimmy O'Brien, I have it in my head that JOB is very small while Cosgrave is taller but lankier (bulked up a bit going by that photo)? I was impressed by his acceleration so I'm not sure he's a poor athlete - definitely not by Ireland's standards anyway. Some of the best fullbacks aren't particularly impressive athletes - Ben Smith is one of the best in the last 10 years, but he was exceptional at just about everything, including breaking tackles despite not being the biggest or fastest.

    Would agree that Osbourne is probably the better prospect and has been for quite a while - just remains to be seen where the Leinster coaches see his best position being. Think Cosgrave could do with a good u20 season to put the school hype behind him.

    I think he'll probably start in a back three with Osbourne, not sure who'll be on the other wing, haven't watched enough of Connacht/Munster ones, and don't think the Ulster players are good enough to have a place nailed down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Wouldn't necessarily say that Smith and Kelly were better prospects at that age - they were certainly more physically dominant in their age group but that doesn't equal better players long-term. Personally, I would say Cosgrave is a better passer and kicker, and better in the air than both, while the other two were better tackle-breakers. I watched Kelly a few times playing for the A's and his skill-set just wasn't there imo.

    Is cosgrave smaller that Jimmy O'Brien, I have it in my head that JOB is very small while Cosgrave is taller but lankier (bulked up a bit going by that photo)? I was impressed by his acceleration so I'm not sure he's a poor athlete - definitely not by Ireland's standards anyway. Some of the best fullbacks aren't particularly impressive athletes - Ben Smith is one of the best in the last 10 years, but he was exceptional at just about everything, including breaking tackles despite not being the biggest or fastest.

    Would agree that Osbourne is probably the better prospect and has been for quite a while - just remains to be seen where the Leinster coaches see his best position being. Think Cosgrave could do with a good u20 season to put the school hype behind him.

    I think he'll probably start in a back three with Osbourne, not sure who'll be on the other wing, haven't watched enough of Connacht/Munster ones, and don't think the Ulster players are good enough to have a place nailed down.

    Kelly joined the academy straight from school and was captain of the irish u20's, he was very highly rated alongside Larmour, it didn't work out as he wasn't able to dominate physically as much as he had in school, especially after a few injuries, but still doesn't mean he wasn't a better prospect than Cosgrave out of school.

    You have it wrong in your head then cause JOB is not very small. Cosgrave is shorter than JOB and while a decent athlete, he isn't particularly fast/quick/explosive for an irish back three player. And yeah i'd say it's unlikely Cosgrave is the next Ben Smith.

    Cosgrave needs a big u20 season to cement his potential, because right now he isn't any more notable as a prospect than the other academy outside backs in the leinster academy and that isn't a very strong group. And he is well off some of the outside backs produced by Ulster recently in terms of potential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Wouldn't necessarily say that Smith and Kelly were better prospects at that age - they were certainly more physically dominant in their age group but that doesn't equal better players long-term. Personally, I would say Cosgrave is a better passer and kicker, and better in the air than both, while the other two were better tackle-breakers. I watched Kelly a few times playing for the A's and his skill-set just wasn't there imo.

    Is cosgrave smaller that Jimmy O'Brien, I have it in my head that JOB is very small while Cosgrave is taller but lankier (bulked up a bit going by that photo)? I was impressed by his acceleration so I'm not sure he's a poor athlete - definitely not by Ireland's standards anyway. Some of the best fullbacks aren't particularly impressive athletes - Ben Smith is one of the best in the last 10 years, but he was exceptional at just about everything, including breaking tackles despite not being the biggest or fastest.

    Would agree that Osbourne is probably the better prospect and has been for quite a while - just remains to be seen where the Leinster coaches see his best position being. Think Cosgrave could do with a good u20 season to put the school hype behind him.

    I think he'll probably start in a back three with Osbourne, not sure who'll be on the other wing, haven't watched enough of Connacht/Munster ones, and don't think the Ulster players are good enough to have a place nailed down.

    not many standout back three prospects between Munster/Connacht.. it's a weaker year for that position compared to last year..


  • Registered Users Posts: 308 ✭✭RuPi


    bayern wrote: »
    not many standout back three prospects between Munster/Connacht.. it's a weaker year for that position compared to last year..

    With the depth in centre for this year group Moxham would be a likely candidate to start on a wing unless he is one of the first choice centres.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    bayern wrote: »
    not many standout back three prospects between Munster/Connacht.. it's a weaker year for that position compared to last year..

    Aaron Leahy would be the stand out Munster back three player this year. Next year is the Gold Standard class for Munster back three players, I think there's four or five players who were involved with Irish 18s at that age - including Sean French's brother Darragh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    RuPi wrote: »
    With the depth in centre for this year group Moxham would be a likely candidate to start on a wing unless he is one of the first choice centres.

    yeah theres quite a few centres, so expect Moxham will be tried on the wing. But it will all come down to who is released and who is healthy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Garda Kenny


    bayern wrote: »
    Chris Cosgrave training with Leinster seniors yesterday.

    1978484.jpg

    I suppose it comes down to whether players are born or made. In this case he is a manufactured well skilled player but lacks fundamentals.

    I too watched the Newbridge game and his catching technique is not what is required in a full back. He catches on the shoulder and while he turns his body sideways exposes his midriff to chop tackles. He also lacks the pace, discipline and stamina to effectively cover the backfield. In the pro game I can see good outhalf exposing his positioning and reading of the backfield and can see a lot of balls being left to bounce instead of being caught on the full like a good fullback does.

    His defensive reads also leave a lot to be desired. He doesn’t make split second decisions and execute them he gets caught in two minds and doesn’t commit. In the Newbridge game he was done on 2v1 when the intercept or at very least man and ball tackle was on for the Newbridge try. What irked me was his “ah well” dropping of head attitude to the miss. He should have committed to decision and executed with conviction.

    I said here before he lacks aggression and intensity in contact and I stick to this statement. He will have to compensate a lack of bulk with doggedness which he does not have. I get the feeling he was wrapped in cotton wool and protected in school and this won’t facilitate his transition to the more attritional pro game. He therefore lacks top end pace or at least work rate AND size to be a top full back. I hope I am proven wrong and things can change but as it stands he doesn’t cut it at fullback for me.

    Which leads to the question where does he fit in? Centre is log jammed and his lack of doggedness makes me think he wouldn’t fit in there. His reading might improve but failure to commit to and execute decisions makes me think he won’t fit in there. He might have a shot at flyhalf but with little experience there can’t see the transition happening. The same could be said for scrum half. Fullback shortcomings apply to his suitability to wing also. In short he’ll have a tough time displacing Keenan or any of the Leinster first team in the next 4 years. He will get a shot and rotation happens but I would fear for him at European level even in 6 years time when he has developed.

    Finally, you are solely responsible along with people at the school for hyping him up. Placing a picture of him training with the firsts is direct advertising of him. To turn around and say you haven’t hyped him is weird and hypocritical. Maybe you should focus on the club lads a bit more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    I suppose it comes down to whether players are born or made. In this case he is a manufactured well skilled player but lacks fundamentals.

    I too watched the Newbridge game and his catching technique is not what is required in a full back. He catches on the shoulder and while he turns his body sideways exposes his midriff to chop tackles. He also lacks the pace, discipline and stamina to effectively cover the backfield. In the pro game I can see good outhalf exposing his positioning and reading of the backfield and can see a lot of balls being left to bounce instead of being caught on the full like a good fullback does.

    His defensive reads also leave a lot to be desired. He doesn’t make split second decisions and execute them he gets caught in two minds and doesn’t commit. In the Newbridge game he was done on 2v1 when the intercept or at very least man and ball tackle was on for the Newbridge try. What irked me was his “ah well” dropping of head attitude to the miss. He should have committed to decision and executed with conviction.

    I said here before he lacks aggression and intensity in contact and I stick to this statement. He will have to compensate a lack of bulk with doggedness which he does not have. I get the feeling he was wrapped in cotton wool and protected in school and this won’t facilitate his transition to the more attritional pro game. He therefore lacks top end pace or at least work rate AND size to be a top full back. I hope I am proven wrong and things can change but as it stands he doesn’t cut it at fullback for me.

    Which leads to the question where does he fit in? Centre is log jammed and his lack of doggedness makes me think he wouldn’t fit in there. His reading might improve but failure to commit to and execute decisions makes me think he won’t fit in there. He might have a shot at flyhalf but with little experience there can’t see the transition happening. The same could be said for scrum half. Fullback shortcomings apply to his suitability to wing also. In short he’ll have a tough time displacing Keenan or any of the Leinster first team in the next 4 years. He will get a shot and rotation happens but I would fear for him at European level even in 6 years time when he has developed.

    Finally, you are solely responsible along with people at the school for hyping him up. Placing a picture of him training with the firsts is direct advertising of him. To turn around and say you haven’t hyped him is weird and hypocritical. Maybe you should focus on the club lads a bit more

    He's a kid playing rugby in the games you are describing and you are trying to compare him to a full time athlete which he wasnt near being. Saying he lacks all of pace, discipline etc to be full back is not fair at all. He was a kid playing with his class mates in those games. Nothing more than that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I suppose it comes down to whether players are born or made. In this case he is a manufactured well skilled player but lacks fundamentals.

    I too watched the Newbridge game and his catching technique is not what is required in a full back. He catches on the shoulder and while he turns his body sideways exposes his midriff to chop tackles. He also lacks the pace, discipline and stamina to effectively cover the backfield. In the pro game I can see good outhalf exposing his positioning and reading of the backfield and can see a lot of balls being left to bounce instead of being caught on the full like a good fullback does.

    His defensive reads also leave a lot to be desired. He doesn’t make split second decisions and execute them he gets caught in two minds and doesn’t commit. In the Newbridge game he was done on 2v1 when the intercept or at very least man and ball tackle was on for the Newbridge try. What irked me was his “ah well” dropping of head attitude to the miss. He should have committed to decision and executed with conviction.

    I said here before he lacks aggression and intensity in contact and I stick to this statement. He will have to compensate a lack of bulk with doggedness which he does not have. I get the feeling he was wrapped in cotton wool and protected in school and this won’t facilitate his transition to the more attritional pro game. He therefore lacks top end pace or at least work rate AND size to be a top full back. I hope I am proven wrong and things can change but as it stands he doesn’t cut it at fullback for me.

    Which leads to the question where does he fit in? Centre is log jammed and his lack of doggedness makes me think he wouldn’t fit in there. His reading might improve but failure to commit to and execute decisions makes me think he won’t fit in there. He might have a shot at flyhalf but with little experience there can’t see the transition happening. The same could be said for scrum half. Fullback shortcomings apply to his suitability to wing also. In short he’ll have a tough time displacing Keenan or any of the Leinster first team in the next 4 years. He will get a shot and rotation happens but I would fear for him at European level even in 6 years time when he has developed.

    Finally, you are solely responsible along with people at the school for hyping him up. Placing a picture of him training with the firsts is direct advertising of him. To turn around and say you haven’t hyped him is weird and hypocritical. Maybe you should focus on the club lads a bit more

    If this post was about a senior pro or even academy player id say fair enough. But going to town like this on a teenager who is not part of the professional game doesn't sit well with me. Pretty ugly stuff.

    Also "solely responsible along with people at the school," which is it then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Garda Kenny


    He's a kid playing rugby in the games you are describing and you are trying to compare him to a full time athlete which he wasnt near being. Saying he lacks all of pace, discipline etc to be full back is not fair at all. He was a kid playing with his class mates in those games. Nothing more than that.

    I suppose my criticism (as well as the advertisement) is a symptom of the pro game. Some people want to put up in lights some players without considering their relative strengths or weaknesses. His criticisms were a nod to my earlier post this month on this player regurgitating them to disguise his building up of the player and appeasing concerned past pupils like me. I personally don’t like it even if the player up on billboards etc excels at his position. The audacity to come on and put the kids picture up advertising his progress and then dress him down is childish and transparent. I don’t like it, the player in question is undeserving of it, has a lot to prove and said poster is guilty constantly of this offense. It’s feeding into the players mindset and they are set up to underwhelm. If he thinks it will change the minds of selectors perhaps he is correct but respect should be paid to those who don’t like it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 108 ✭✭Garda Kenny


    If this post was about a senior pro or even academy player id say fair enough. But going to town like this on a teenager who is not part of the professional game doesn't sit well with me. Pretty ugly stuff.

    Also "solely responsible along with people at the school," which is it then?

    He is solely responsible for it on this site. His classmates might be responsible for it also. I suppose you can’t blame them but it doesnt do the player any favours trying to push him upwards. I am acting as the counterweight to this action. If you don’t like it ask the poster to stop hyping players from one school disproportionately.


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Purist98


    Literally all he said was he trained with the seniors, just like he would with any other sub academy player, not quite putting him on a pedestal like you think it is


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar


    Lot of discussion about 9 and 10 for Ireland. My viewpoint is nothing about any of them. If the national team plays the way it plays, then what difference does it make. Time and again players have been brought into the fold and released from the fold. And there is a good reason for that. It does not fit. So Harry Byrne will not fit unless the coaching staff suggests he fits. But that is not likely to happen with the current coaching staff. So posters can suggest what they wish but the gameplay is the gameplay. And the player is not that important.

    I have my own opinions on a teamsheet, but what's the point when the gameplay is the gameplay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    ElisaAtWar wrote: »
    Lot of discussion about 9 and 10 for Ireland. My viewpoint is nothing about any of them. If the national team plays the way it plays, then what difference does it make. Time and again players have been brought into the fold and released from the fold. And there is a good reason for that. It does not fit. So Harry Byrne will not fit unless the coaching staff suggests he fits. But that is not likely to happen with the current coaching staff. So posters can suggest what they wish but the gameplay is the gameplay. And the player is not that important.

    I have my own opinions on a teamsheet, but what's the point when the gameplay is the gameplay.
    This is the under 20s thread so what does any of this have to do with that?

    You go the game play is the game play but what can you suggest the team do instead of what theyre doing right now?
    The game play is the game play means absolutely nothing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭alanb92




  • Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭OneLungDavy


    alanb92 wrote: »
    Good to see. No harm in him playing senior rugby abroad for a few years if he intends to come back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭alanb92


    Good to see. No harm in him playing senior rugby abroad for a few years if he intends to come back.

    Agreed. He will get more game time at Leicester than he would have got if he moved to one of the Irish provinces. The strength of the current England centre options will stand in our favour in terms of him sticking with Ireland. Him and Hyde is up there with Arnold and Ringrose in terms of best u20 centre combo's I have seen in recent years. I wonder would both, or either, have started for England's u20's last season - I suspect they would have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Good to see. No harm in him playing senior rugby abroad for a few years if he intends to come back.

    Come back? He never left. He is from Manchester.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭UAEguy2020


    alanb92 wrote: »

    This would be the exception of someone playing abroad as he is still in university. Hopefully he gets signed by an Irish province soon though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    UAEguy2020 wrote: »
    This would be the exception of someone playing abroad as he is still in university. Hopefully he gets signed by an Irish province soon though.

    He has no intention of moving at the moment...it's the IRFU chasing him, not the other way around


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Kelly on for Leicester right now if anyone wants to take a look


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Noticed Jamie Osborne is listed at 6'3.5, 95kg. Turns 20 next November.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    What stadiums are the under 20s using this year? With the 6 nation's being on in June it could be the first rugby game's we're allowed to attend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    irish u20 outhalf Tim Corkery(Kilkenny) training with Leinster seniors today along fellow u20's Chris Cosgrave(Michaels), Jamie Osborne(Naas), Alex Soroka(Belvedere) & Joe McCarthy(Blackrock)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    U20's playing this weekend:

    Leinster: Alex Soroka, Jamie Osborne

    Munster A: Ethan Coughlan, Alex Kendellan

    Ulster A: Ben Moxham, Conor Rankin, Harry Sheridan, James McCormick, Oscar Egan, George Saunderson, Reuben Crothers, Nathan Doak, Conor McKee, James Humphreys, Ben Carson, Matthew Corr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    would appear James McCormick, Oscar Egan, Reuben Crothers, Nathan Doak and Ben Carson got off the bench for Ulster A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    irish u20 eligible players who have played senior rugby this season:

    Alex Soroka(Backrow/Leinster) - 1
    Nathan Doak(Scrumhalf/Ulster) - 1
    Jamie Osborne(Centre/Leinster) - 3
    Dan Kelly(Centre/Leicester) - 5
    Ben Moxham(Wing/Ulster) - 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Kilgallen played for Connacht earlier in the season didn't he? Or is he overage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Kilgallen played for Connacht earlier in the season didn't he? Or is he overage?

    overage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Kilgallen played for Connacht earlier in the season didn't he? Or is he overage?

    Overage now, 21 fairly soon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    U20's playing this weekend:

    Leinster: 22. Jamie Osborne.
    * Tim Corkery was 24th man for Leinster.

    Munster A: 21. Ethan Coughlan, 8. Alex Kendellan

    Connacht Eagles: 12. Cathal Forde, 6. Donnacha Byrne, 17. Eoin de Buitlear, 19. Diarmuid McCormack
    20. Oisin McCormack, 22. Shane Jennings, 23. Hubert Gilvarry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    U20's playing this weekend:

    Leinster: 8. Alex Soroka(Belvedere) 22. Tim Corkery(Kilkenny) 23. Jamie Osborne(Naas)

    Munster: 20. Alex Kendellan(PBC)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    bayern wrote: »

    Was always very unsure about him, seemed more he was just put there as he was the assistant so seemed the natural progression. Noel Mc was a huge loss, I wonder what direction they'll go for the 20's HC now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Was always very unsure as to his credentials to take on the head coach role with Ire 20's, seemed more he was just put there as he was the assistant. Noel Mc was a huge loss, I wonder what direction they'll go for the 20's HC now.

    you'd wonder if Noel Mc will come back in... was expecting to hear him get a promotion with Leinster but no sign of it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    bayern wrote: »
    you'd wonder if Noel Mc will come back in... was expecting to hear him get a promotion with Leinster but no sign of it.

    Was thinking the same to be honest. Leaving Ireland 20's to stay on as Leinster academy manager seems an odd move by all involved so something must have happened. Considering Contepomi is there, he might not get a look in with the senior squad for a while. I wonder if the Munster job would interest him if Van G were to leave, but I think that role seems reserved for O'Gara.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭bayern


    Was thinking the same to be honest. Leaving Ireland 20's to stay on as Leinster academy manager seems an odd move by all involved so something must have happened. Considering Contepomi is there, he might not get a look in with the senior squad for a while. I wonder if the Munster job would interest him if Van G were to leave, but I think that role seems reserved for O'Gara.

    wonder if they wanted to move away from having the leinster academy manager being irish 20's coach and the former leinster academy manager being in charge of all underage rugby development..

    will be interesting to follow.. McNamara can't have been very busy in 2021 given lack of A rugby and no 20's.. unless he has taken up a role with senior team that hasn't been announced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 MrSocco80


    Watched Leicester Tigers yesterday and was very impressed with Dan Kelly. Really should have gotten MOM but Austin Healy gave it to Harry Wells for some reason. Made a couple of breaks, loads of metres in contact, one try saving tackle and is a lovely passer.

    I notice Hayden Hyde has moved back to Harlequins from Ulster. Does anyone know if he's possibly going to switch allegiance to England as a result? Hope not as I was very impressed with him for the u20s. I can understand this young exiles wanting to be based where their family is, especially during Covid.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond



    Interesting appointment. Had previously been Elite dev officer and having spent such long time in skills role with senior national side will be of such high value for the players at this level coming through the next couple of years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Riddle solved! Big promotion for Murphy.
    I have had my reservations about his exact role was with the senior side mainly because our kicking strategy and execution had fallen behind the curve in 2019 & 2020. Plus the senior teams handling and passing skills were never exceptional either - Unlike Wales who got better and better as a tournament went on. Ireland appeared to get worse...and then they thumped England!
    In fairness Richie may have had limited input/responsibility in that role.
    Hopefully it works out well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    Riddle solved! Big promotion for Murphy.
    I have had my reservations about his exact role was with the senior side mainly because our kicking strategy and execution had fallen behind the curve in 2019 & 2020. Plus the senior teams handling and passing skills were never exceptional either - Unlike Wales who got better and better as a tournament went on. Ireland appeared to get worse...and then they thumped England!
    In fairness Richie may have had limited input/responsibility in that role.
    Hopefully it works out well.


    Wouldnt go that far he hasn’t much hc experience asfaik but hey just in time to pick his son for the 6nations.. can see this being a bit of an caretaker manager role until they get a long term candidate in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,854 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Wouldnt go that far he hasn’t much hc experience asfaik but hey just in time to pick his son for the 6nations.. can see this being a bit of an caretaker manager role until they get a long term candidate in

    The riddle for me was Campbell and Carolan leaving their provinces and McNamara staying at Leinster. Also probable addition to the senior side coaching staff possible with Murphy taking this role now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    I just realized that the following all turn 30 this year!
    PJ
    Mick Kearney
    Conway
    Gilroy
    Treacy
    TOH
    where did the time go?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    Any names up for this weekend's camp?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Hey boy wrote: »
    Any names up for this weekend's camp?

    Anyone know any attendees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    When is the u20 6nations?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭theVersatile


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    When is the u20 6nations?

    I don't think a set in stone date was ever decided - some time in the Summer is all anyone can say until the IRFU come out and give a bit more info out.

    Unless there's anyone ITK?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    Anyone know any attendees?

    No idea but I get the impression it was extensive as coaches have so little to go on


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