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Ireland u20 6 nations and world championship 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I don't think a set in stone date was ever decided - some time in the Summer is all anyone can say until the IRFU come out and give a bit more info out.

    Unless there's anyone ITK?

    Was supposed to be starting the 19th of June over 3 weeks instead of 6, but have heard they're still waiting to see what happens with travel guidelines etc as they won't get exemptions for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    When is the u20 6nations?
    June but nothing confirmed due to waiting about restrictions
    FrannoFan wrote: »
    No idea but I get the impression it was extensive as coaches have so little to go on

    Yeah even last season ended early. Could change a lot of who might have been expected to be in the squad based on u18 rugby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    No idea but I get the impression it was extensive as coaches have so little to go on

    Plus head coach has left which won't have helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭RuPi


    Article on the IRFU site that with those who attended the camp. I would imagine these are all players outside of their senior squads training bubbles as certainly from Ulster there is a few names missing who are training with Seniors.

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/05/03/ireland-u20s-talent-camp-held-at-irfu-hpc/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    RuPi wrote: »
    Article on the IRFU site that with those who attended the camp. I would imagine these are all players outside of their senior squads training bubbles as certainly from Ulster there is a few names missing who are training with Seniors.

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/05/03/ireland-u20s-talent-camp-held-at-irfu-hpc/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Most certainly and with no rugby having been played all season any involved in senior squads will not be involved as it allows far more players get looked at and actually play some rugby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    RuPi wrote: »
    Article on the IRFU site that with those who attended the camp. I would imagine these are all players outside of their senior squads training bubbles as certainly from Ulster there is a few names missing who are training with Seniors.

    https://www.irishrugby.ie/2021/05/03/ireland-u20s-talent-camp-held-at-irfu-hpc/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Presumably academy is ranked higher than NTS which is ranked higher than PTS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Hey boy wrote: »
    Presumably academy is ranked higher than NTS which is ranked higher than PTS?
    Academy players are contracted to provinces.
    National Talent Squad’ [NTS] is the most promising young players in the country from the ages of 15 to 20 who aren’t yet in the academies, and the ‘Provincial Talent Squad’ [PTS] is a wider pool of players around the country with potential to join each of the other set ups


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭FrannoFan


    Academy players are contracted to provinces.
    National Talent Squad’ [NTS] is the most promising young players in the country from the ages of 15 to 20 who aren’t yet in the academies, and the ‘Provincial Talent Squad’ [PTS] is a wider pool of players around the country with potential to join each of the other set ups

    Was wondering what those acronyms were. Thanks for that.

    Hopefully it's a step to an informal "draft" where a player not being picked up by his native province is still charted and perhaps a different province snaps them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭starkid


    Temi Adewunmi Lasisi

    name i haven't heard?

    Looks a big unit, any word on the lad?

    good to see a bit of diversity in the squad. Probably about time for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 298 ✭✭Number 137


    starkid wrote: »
    Temi Adewunmi Lasisi

    name i haven't heard?

    Looks a big unit, any word on the lad?

    good to see a bit of diversity in the squad. Probably about time for it.

    He has come through the youths pathway, out of Enniscorthy. I think he is a hooker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I wonder why there were so few Connacht players involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    I wonder why there were so few Connacht players involved.

    Assume cathal Forde, Darragh Murray, donncha Byrne and Oisin McCormack would be involved but training with senior squad recently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    FrannoFan wrote: »
    Was wondering what those acronyms were. Thanks for that.

    Hopefully it's a step to an informal "draft" where a player not being picked up by his native province is still charted and perhaps a different province snaps them up.

    The players not picked up by native province still being assessed and snapped up is happening and has for a while. Connacht have had open assessments for their interpros from u19s up and always looking further afield. others are as well.
    starkid wrote: »
    Temi Adewunmi Lasisi

    name i haven't heard?

    Looks a big unit, any word on the lad?

    good to see a bit of diversity in the squad. Probably about time for it.

    Diversity... plenty been involved in various irish and provincial age grade squads for some time.
    I wonder why there were so few Connacht players involved.

    Any players in particular you think should be involved?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    The players not picked up by native province still being assessed and snapped up is happening and has for a while. Connacht have had open assessments for their interpros from u19s up and always looking further afield. others are as well.



    Diversity... plenty been involved in various irish and provincial age grade squads for some time.



    Any players in particular you think should be involved?

    I'm not making any assertions as to who should or shouldn't be involved. I would have expected Darragh Murray, Oisin McCormack, Donnacha Byrne, Hubert Costelloe, Matthew Devine, Cathal Force, and Shane Jennings to be there or thereabouts but if training with Connacht is deemed to take priority that's fair enough.

    This year's crop is Connacht's strongest in years so I am hopeful come the JRWC we will have more players involved than we have had in recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    I'm not making any assertions as to who should or shouldn't be involved. I would have expected Darragh Murray, Oisin McCormack, Donnacha Byrne, Hubert Costelloe, Matthew Devine, Cathal Force, and Shane Jennings to be there or thereabouts but if training with Connacht is deemed to take priority that's fair enough.

    This year's crop is Connacht's strongest in years so I am hopeful come the JRWC we will have more players involved than we have had in recent years.

    A fair few of those lads are overage this year no? Jennings, McCormack and Forde are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,121 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    A fair few of those lads are overage this year no? Jennings, McCormack and Forde are

    Pretty sure all I mentioned are u20 apart from Devine who is u19. Jennings, McCormack and Force were all born in 2001.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Pretty sure all I mentioned are u20 apart from Devine who is u19. Jennings, McCormack and Force were all born in 2001.

    Could be wrong but the cutoff for turning 20 is July I think, all 3 already turned 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Could be wrong but the cutoff for turning 20 is July I think, all 3 already turned 20.

    No international rugby for quite some time has been January 1st. Its only club rugby at 20s and 18s thats July 1st and thats 20.5s and 18.5s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    No international rugby for quite some time has been January 1st. Its only club rugby at 20s and 18s thats July 1st and thats 20.5s and 18.5s.

    Ah that's my bad so wasn't aware it was different to the old clubs 20s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    starkid wrote: »
    Temi Adewunmi Lasisi

    name i haven't heard?

    Looks a big unit, any word on the lad?

    good to see a bit of diversity in the squad. Probably about time for it.

    Lasisi!
    Reminds me of the fella who played in Serie A in the golden years.
    He loved a chop tackle!
    https://youtu.be/GiGuz0CcoaM?t=88


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Ah that's my bad so wasn't aware it was different to the old clubs 20s.

    To be fair unless directly involved in the coaching/have kids in these grade it would be hard to know. changed a lot the past decade or so.
    From 20s/18s/16s all on July cut off date to 21s/19s/17s/15s all on january 1st and then change back to 20.5s and 18s/16s and then other changes in between

    there was a while when schools u18s international were different to other age grades and there are still slight differences between provinces. Ulster run different grades to other provinces


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭Lucas44


    Ah that's my bad so wasn't aware it was different to the old clubs 20s.

    Clubs is actually u20.5 hence the July cut off, has anyone got the full list of who was there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Lucas44 wrote: »
    Clubs is actually u20.5 hence the July cut off, has anyone got the full list of who was there?

    Its in RuPis post #255


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭starkid


    The players not picked up by native province still being assessed and snapped up is happening and has for a while. Connacht have had open assessments for their interpros from u19s up and always looking further afield. others are as well.



    Diversity... plenty been involved in various irish and provincial age grade squads for some time.



    Any players in particular you think should be involved?

    I'd respectively disagree. There's been a few lads yes. "Plenty" is completely stretching it. And i'm talking about Irish under 20s and above. Not age grade stuff. And i'm not talking about project players either. I'm basically talking about elite rugby. And when i say diversity i refer to players who would be considered the sons and daughters of people making their new life here (like my daughter) Rory Parata, Conor Phillips (some south african heritage)and Vakh Abdaladze. Harrison Brewer, Saba Meunargia before that, and Zebo. Thats about it. And only Zeebs has gone on to elite stuff. I'm not saying it as some sort of conspiracy but Irish rugby is in dire need of moving the rugby away from the 10/11 Michaels and other private schools (of which i attended) monopoly. Its an uncomfortable truth really. And yes i'm aware that the lads I mention mostly went to private schools.

    Considering the numbers here of Irish people with dual heritage or whatever you want to call it, we have pretty poor representation through all Irish sport at this stage. Footballs about to completely change. Rugby is seriously lagging behind now.

    To keep it about IReland under 20s, Okeke looks a good prospect. Illo too. I hope they can make it.

    Of all the players i've watched and played against Conor Owende (under 20 sub) with his natural athleticism is one player that springs to mind.

    Anyway i look forward to the day Irish rugby incorporates people from all walks of life. Will be a great day. Below the elite level, yes great work is being done in certain areas. And in others like where i live in the North inner city region its non existent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    starkid wrote: »
    I'd respectively disagree. There's been a few lads yes. "Plenty" is completely stretching it. And i'm talking about Irish under 20s and above. Not age grade stuff. And i'm not talking about project players either. I'm basically talking about elite rugby. And when i say diversity i refer to players who would be considered the sons and daughters of people making their new life here (like my daughter) Rory Parata, Conor Phillips (some south african heritage)and Vakh Abdaladze. Harrison Brewer, Saba Meunargia before that, and Zebo. Thats about it. And only Zeebs has gone on to elite stuff. I'm not saying it as some sort of conspiracy but Irish rugby is in dire need of moving the rugby away from the 10/11 Michaels and other private schools (of which i attended) monopoly. Its an uncomfortable truth really. And yes i'm aware that the lads I mention mostly went to private schools.

    Considering the numbers here of Irish people with dual heritage or whatever you want to call it, we have pretty poor representation through all Irish sport at this stage. Footballs about to completely change. Rugby is seriously lagging behind now.

    To keep it about IReland under 20s, Okeke looks a good prospect. Illo too. I hope they can make it.

    Of all the players i've watched and played against Conor Owende (under 20 sub) with his natural athleticism is one player that springs to mind.

    Anyway i look forward to the day Irish rugby incorporates people from all walks of life. Will be a great day. Below the elite level, yes great work is being done in certain areas. And in others like where i live in the North inner city region its non existent.
    It takes long time to get players through from beyond the fee paying schools who have all the coaching, facilities that majority not in the schools will not have access to.
    Irish rugby is getting better at expanding the game. Look at GAA as well. Few making top level who are people who are sons, daughters of immigrants.
    Rugby very much incorporates people from all walks of life. That it isnt completely showing at pro level doesnt mean that the sport isnt doing the work


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    starkid wrote: »
    I'd respectively disagree. There's been a few lads yes. "Plenty" is completely stretching it. And i'm talking about Irish under 20s and above. Not age grade stuff. And i'm not talking about project players either. I'm basically talking about elite rugby. And when i say diversity i refer to players who would be considered the sons and daughters of people making their new life here (like my daughter) Rory Parata, Conor Phillips (some south african heritage)and Vakh Abdaladze. Harrison Brewer, Saba Meunargia before that, and Zebo. Thats about it. And only Zeebs has gone on to elite stuff. I'm not saying it as some sort of conspiracy but Irish rugby is in dire need of moving the rugby away from the 10/11 Michaels and other private schools (of which i attended) monopoly. Its an uncomfortable truth really. And yes i'm aware that the lads I mention mostly went to private schools.

    Considering the numbers here of Irish people with dual heritage or whatever you want to call it, we have pretty poor representation through all Irish sport at this stage. Footballs about to completely change. Rugby is seriously lagging behind now.

    To keep it about IReland under 20s, Okeke looks a good prospect. Illo too. I hope they can make it.

    Of all the players i've watched and played against Conor Owende (under 20 sub) with his natural athleticism is one player that springs to mind.

    Anyway i look forward to the day Irish rugby incorporates people from all walks of life. Will be a great day. Below the elite level, yes great work is being done in certain areas. And in others like where i live in the North inner city region its non existent.

    Can't speak for the other provinces but UR put a lot of time into whoever is good enough, inc from clubs, secondary schools, etc etc. A few years back they put a lot into a big prop who was definitely not from the usual background. Ultimately he just wasn't good enough but his dad has been on social media a number of times whinging about how he wasn't given a chance etc etc. He definitely was.

    I honestly hope we don't go down the lines of quotas. Perhaps I am naive but if player is good enough he will get picked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Squad of 37 from latest training camp
    Donnacha Byrne (Sligo RFC)
    Hubert Costelloe (Corinthians RFC)
    Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC)
    Cathal Forde (Corinthians RFC)
    Hubert Gilvary (Sligo RFC)
    Oisin McCormack (Buccaneers RFC)
    Diarmuid McCormack (DUFC)
    Darragh Murray (Buccaneers RFC)
    Leinster
    Temi Asewunmi Lasisi (Lansdowne FC)
    Lee Barron (DUFC)
    Jack Boyle (UCD RFC)
    Harry Colbert (DUFC)
    Donal Conroy (Naas RFC)
    Tim Corkery (UCD RFC)
    Matthew Grogan (Old Belvedere RFC)
    Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC)
    Marcus Kiely (Naas RFC)
    Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC)
    Joe McCarthy (DUFC)
    Mark Morrissey (UCD RFC)
    Ben Murphy (Old Wesley RFC)
    Josh O’Connor (UCD RFC)
    Alex Soroka (Clontarf FC)
    Munster
    Mark Donnelly (Garryowen FC)
    Alan Flannery (Shannon RFC)
    John Forde (Cork Constitution FC)
    Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC)
    Aaron Leahy (CBC)
    Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC)
    Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC)
    Cian Whooley (UCC RFC)
    Ulster
    Reuben Crothers (Ballynahinch RFC)
    Nathan Doak (Banbridge RFC)
    Oscar Egan (QUB RFC)
    Conor McKee (QUB RFC)
    George Saunderson (QUB RFC)
    James Humphreys (QUB RFC)
    Harry Sheridan (DUFC)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭theVersatile




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 backcamslua


    A few additional academy players helping with the 7's programme to be included aswell I'd say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    A few additional academy players helping with the 7's programme to be included aswell I'd say!

    Who would that be?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Purist98


    Hey boy wrote: »
    Who would that be?

    Alex Kendellen and Chris Cosgrave are two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭OneLungDavy


    When is this to kick off? I'm looking forward to this more than the Lions tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    When is this to kick off? I'm looking forward to this more than the Lions tour.

    First games June 19th but no further details announced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    The 20's 6nations is brilliant! I really enjoy these matches. Sometimes, the rugby is absolutely magnificent. It's always facinating to guess which lads are future senior international players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭OneLungDavy


    Dubinusa wrote: »
    The 20's 6nations is brilliant! I really enjoy these matches. Sometimes, the rugby is absolutely magnificent. It's always facinating to guess which lads are future senior international players.
    Yeah love it too.

    Those Friday night warm-up games for the senior 6 Nations matches were such a joy. Hopefully all will be back to normal next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    A few additional academy players helping with the 7's programme to be included aswell I'd say!

    And some with full senior squads as well
    Purist98 wrote: »
    Alex Kendellen and Chris Cosgrave are two

    Ethan Coughlan as well. Was a reserve for Munster on Friday night and is still underage for 20s next year as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    England playing Scotland today
    Now most players should be finished college we might have a game or two ahead of 6 nations in what ever form its played




  • Fixtures announced i'd guess kendellan will miss this if he's playing 7s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Even harder than usual to predict how these games will go but not the worst set of fixtures

    2021 U20 Six Nations Championship Fixtures:
    (All games at Cardiff Arms Park)

    Round 1, Saturday 19 June:
    Scotland v Ireland, 2pm
    England v France, 5pm
    Italy v Wales, 8pm

    Round 2, Friday 25 June:
    England v Scotland, 2pm
    Italy v France, 5pm
    Wales v Ireland, 8pm

    Round 3, Thursday 1 July:
    Scotland v Italy, 2pm
    France v Wales, 5pm
    Ireland v England, 8pm

    Round 4, Wednesday 7 July:
    Italy v Ireland, 2pm
    France v Scotland, 5pm
    Wales v England, 8pm

    Round 5, Tuesday 13 July
    England v Italy, 2pm
    Ireland v France, 4.45pm
    Scotland v Wales, 8pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Who is the TV operator?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    England playing Scotland today
    Now most players should be finished college we might have a game or two ahead of 6 nations in what ever form its played

    Did you hear who won?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Hey boy wrote: »
    Did you hear who won?
    England 5 tries to 2 but it was Non-capped game, training in effect, different regs etc etc,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    the Irish 20s will take on a Leinster Development XV at Donnybrook tomorrow then play a Munster development team 7 days later in High Performance Centre with 6 nations squad named the following Thursday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Leinster Teams named
    Leinster (v Ireland U-20):

    15. Rob Russell
    14. Donal Conroy
    13. Marcus Kiely
    12. David Hawkshaw CAPTAIN
    11. Josh O’Connor
    10. Tim Corkery
    9. Cormac Foley

    1. Michael Milne
    2. John McKee
    3. Vakh Abdaladze
    4. Mark Morrissey
    5. Ryan Baird
    6. Martin Moloney
    7. Aaron Coleman
    8. Mark Boyle.

    Replacements from:

    Marcus Hanan
    Temi Lasisi
    Dan Sheehan
    Greg McGrath
    Ruairí Clarke
    Will Reilly
    Harry Colbert

    Ireland U-20 (from):
    Chris Cosgrave (UCD RFC/Leinster), Chay Mullins (Bristol Bears/IQ Rugby), Jamie Osborne (Naas RFC/Leinster), Ben Carson (Banbridge RFC/Ulster),
    Shane Jennings (Buccaneers RFC/Connacht), Cian Whooley (UCC RFC/Munster), Ben Murphy (Old Wesley RFC/Leinster), Jack Boyle (UCD RFC/Leinster),
    Ronan Loughnane (UCD RFC/Leinster), Sam Illo (Old Wesley RFC/Leinster), Harry Sheridan (Dublin University FC/Ulster), Joe McCarthy (Dublin University FC/Leinster), Donnacha Byrne (Sligo RFC/Connacht), Diarmuid McCormack (Dublin University FC/Connacht), Daniel Okeke (Shannon RFC/Munster),
    Jamie Shanahan (Garryowen FC/Munster), Conor Rankin (Malone RFC/Ulster), Alan Flannery (Shannon RFC/Munster), Cathal Forde (Corinthian RFC/Connacht), Hubert Gilvarry (Sligo RFC/Connacht), Aaron Leahy (Garryowen RFC/Munster), James Humphreys (Queen’s University Belfast/Ulster),
    Conor McKee (Queen’s University Belfast/Ulster), George Saunderson (Queen’s University Belfast/Ulster), Eoin de Buitlear (Corinthians RFC/Connacht),
    Mark Donnelly (Garryowen RFC/Munster), Jack Kelleher (UCC RFC/Munster), Reuben Crothers (Ballynahinch RFC/Ulster),
    Oisin McCormack (Buccaneers RFC/Connacht), Alex Kendellen (UCC RFC/Munster),
    Oscar Egan (Queen’s University Belfast/Ulster), Liam Bishop (Nottingham RFC/IQ Rugby).


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    No Nathan Doak is interesting. Would imagine he’s involved with Ulster then.

    Tim Corkery playing for Leinster instead of Ireland is eye-catching as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭Must love hardship


    Faugheen wrote: »

    Tim Corkery playing for Leinster instead of Ireland is eye-catching as well.

    You'd imagine he is still involved with the u20's just Leinster are very short of outhalves at the moment due to injuries etc.??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,738 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Faugheen wrote: »
    No Nathan Doak is interesting. Would imagine he’s involved with Ulster then.

    Tim Corkery playing for Leinster instead of Ireland is eye-catching as well.

    Probably works out best for all, get to see both Forde and Corkery on the pitch at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Faugheen wrote: »
    No Nathan Doak is interesting. Would imagine he’s involved with Ulster then.

    Tim Corkery playing for Leinster instead of Ireland is eye-catching as well.
    Not really that eye catching. Allows Corkery game time as well as others. Will see some Munster players in the extended squad playing for Munster in the game next week to allow others game time


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    It allows Corkery game time but I think Ireland would benefit more from him playing within their systems.

    It's whatever though. I just thought it was eye-catching.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Faugheen wrote: »
    It allows Corkery game time but I think Ireland would benefit more from him playing within their systems.

    It's whatever though. I just thought it was eye-catching.

    When so few have game time you need to get players as much game time as possible and this allows that. As more Ulster and Connacht players should be starting playing more as they wont really have option of playing for the provincial teams in the games.
    Corkery also got irish game time last year and pro14 game time this season means it gives others a shot in these games.


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