Beep scheme - anyone joining

patsy_mccabe · 25-10-2019 1:14pm

https://twitter.com/HerdPlus/status/1187700370245586944

josephsoap · 25-10-2019 8:06pm

sonnybill wrote: »

Anyone got it in amounts processed?

Nothing showing in amounts due here

Anto_Meath · 30-10-2019 10:30am

Just after checking the bank account there and the money came through yesterday wee hee happy days, its defiantly the handiest money I ever got. Just waiting on the text message now to tell me its in so that I will be happy again. I got €40 for each calf so my cow that has regular twins was a great help.

Lime Tree Farm · 30-10-2019 10:46am

The clocks might go forward this month.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/calls-made-for-extension-to-beep-weighing-deadline/

Sugarbowl · 30-10-2019 11:39am

When did you weigh yours Anto?
I did mine in late June. Nothing here yet

Anto_Meath · 30-10-2019 11:56am

Hi Sugarbowl, I weighed them the 23 of August, I have also all information up to date on ICBF regarding Calf Quality, Scour ect. Submitted info on the last calf last week just as he was 5 months so maybe that is connected, I don't know.

50HX · 30-10-2019 11:29pm

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

The clocks might go forward this month.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/calls-made-for-extension-to-beep-weighing-deadline/

Same old story....extend the deadline. ..ffs if you don't have them weighed by now don't bother with the scheme

tanko · 30-10-2019 11:47pm

Anto_Meath wrote: »

Hi Sugarbowl, I weighed them the 23 of August, I have also all information up to date on ICBF regarding Calf Quality, Scour ect. Submitted info on the last calf last week just as he was 5 months so maybe that is connected, I don't know.

It's a separate scheme from the BDGP.
I helped a neighbour weigh his cows and calves three weeks ago and he got paid today. Some of his calves wouldn't be five months old yet.

sonnybill · 31-10-2019 4:31am

I weighed mine October 02nd, they paid me Oct 22nd! Great scheme .. what interested me was the variation in the weights of cows.. I would have been a bit off when estimating for dosing rates on some of them to be honest .. ive one 546kg coween and I thought there was something up with the scales but she has reared a 300kg heifer calf so I suppose she is the one % wise we should be having not the 730kg looker!!

Lime Tree Farm · 31-10-2019 9:42am

50HX wrote: »

Same old story....extend the deadline. ..ffs if you don't have them weighed by now don't bother with the scheme

“many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first”

Sami23 · 31-10-2019 10:42am

50HX wrote: »

Same old story....extend the deadline. ..ffs if you don't have them weighed by now don't bother with the scheme

Fully agree - a load of b*#@ocks all they extensions

solerina · 31-10-2019 1:03pm

Just rang ICBF deadline extended to November 8th.

Sami23 · 31-10-2019 1:49pm

solerina wrote: »

Just rang ICBF deadline extended to November 8th.

FFS

dohc turbo2 · 31-10-2019 5:00pm

So are payments on hold so

Butcher Boy · 31-10-2019 5:25pm

dohc turbo2 wrote: »

So are payments on hold so

No my 2 brothers got there money yesterday.

dohc turbo2 · 31-10-2019 10:42pm

Butcher Boy wrote: »

No my 2 brothers got there money yesterday.

I’ve nothing in Ag food and I weighed very early in the scheme

blue5000 · 31-10-2019 10:48pm

Lad in our DG thought he had everything in order, but he had to re-submit the weights after contacting them. If anyone is in doubt, it might be worthwhile making a phonecall.

pure breed · 31-10-2019 11:43pm

blue5000 wrote:

Lad in our DG thought he had everything in order, but he had to re-submit the weights after contacting them. If anyone is in doubt, it might be worthwhile making a phonecall.

The weights appear in ICBF for us. Did they appear there for the lad in your DG? Doesn't that mean that everything should be good? Haven't got ours need by the way.

Anto_Meath · 11-11-2019 5:36pm

Now that the extended deadline has past any word on how many actually applied for this scheme? There was meant to be €8 million of an under spend on this scheme, I wounder will they give a top up on the €40 / head to use up this surplus? You would wonder why anyone who originally signed up for this scheme didn't complete it.

Lime Tree Farm · 11-11-2019 8:03pm

Farmers will now have until 5:00pm of next Friday, November 15, to submit that data to the Irish Cattle Breeding Federation (ICBF) to avail of a €40 payment per cow/calf pairing.

Deadline for weighing was Nov 8, deadline for submitting the weights is Nov 15.

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/last-day-for-weighing-under-beep-scheme/

patsy_mccabe · 13-12-2019 9:30pm

In this weeks Farmers Journal;

BEEP underspend to see a quarter of money left behind.

Why do you reckon people didn't join?

Hard Knocks · 13-12-2019 10:15pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

In this weeks Farmers Journal;

BEEP underspend to see a quarter of money left behind.

Why do you reckon people didn't join?

I’d say any of
No scales
cost of hiring scales & collecting
€40 per cow & calf
cattle in multiple places

bogman_bass · 13-12-2019 10:56pm

Honestly? There is a sizable portion of Irish beef farmers that want money for nothing and if they have to do anything for it “it isn’t worth their while”.
That, and Irish farming social media has turned into a hotbed for conspiracy theories in the past 12 months.

Grueller · 13-12-2019 11:03pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

Honestly? There is a sizable portion of Irish beef farmers that want money for nothing and if they have to do anything for it “it isn’t worth their while”.
That, and Irish farming social media has turned into a hotbed for conspiracy theories in the past 12 months.

Have to agree with your 1st point anyhow bogman. I had as much work as most with this scheme but was not complaining last week when I got over 2 and a half grand. Nothing for nothing in this world.

Grueller · 13-12-2019 11:48pm

By the way, is this scheme running next year?

tanko · 13-12-2019 11:54pm

Grueller wrote: »

By the way, is this scheme running next year?

It's a one off for this year for now anyway.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 14-12-2019 12:00am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

In this weeks Farmers Journal;

BEEP underspend to see a quarter of money left behind.

Why do you reckon people didn't join?

I reckon I'm pulling out of all schemes from now on. I wasnt paid the BDGP last year and no explanation given. Finally told a month after the payment date that I was getting an inspection. The following morning! Had all the cattle needed inside and in the crush when the guy called and everything was 100%.

I wasn't paid till April.

Screw that, I don't need that aggravation in my life.

tanko · 11-03-2020 10:17pm

I see the new BEEP scheme is opening tomorrow.
€90 for the first 10 calves.
€80 per calf after that.

€50/calf for weighing the calf which is compulsory.
€30/calf for either vaccinating for pneumonia or feeding meal to calves pre weaning. These are optional.
€10 for testing dung for parasites which is optional also.

patsy_mccabe · 11-03-2020 10:21pm

Where did you see that Tanko?
Do you have to apply again for this year?

Lady Haywire · 11-03-2020 10:22pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Where did you see that Tanko?
Do you have to apply again for this year?

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/schemes/new-beep-scheme-for-suckler-farmers-with-90cow-payment-set-to-be-announced-39037658.html

Was literally just reading about it when Tanko posted.

tractorporn · 11-03-2020 10:27pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Where did you see that Tanko?
Do you have to apply again for this year?

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/new-e35-million-beep-suckler-scheme-to-open-tomorrow/

Looks like you will have to apply year on year ticking some of the options that Tanko outlined

Grueller · 11-03-2020 10:38pm

Oer €5k in this scheme for me it seems. Not to be sneezed at. I'll be back in anyway.

tanko · 11-03-2020 11:22pm

I always vaccinate against Pnuemonia with two shots of Rispoval 3 every year which costs about €12/calf, so at least i'll get paid for that.
But i see that you have to give a single shot against IBR also which i haven't being doing. How much does this cost?

wrangler · 11-03-2020 11:33pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I reckon I'm pulling out of all schemes from now on. I wasnt paid the BDGP last year and no explanation given. Finally told a month after the payment date that I was getting an inspection. The following morning! Had all the cattle needed inside and in the crush when the guy called and everything was 100%.

I wasn't paid till April.

Screw that, I don't need that aggravation in my life.

How many times have i posted not to depend on subsidy money to be paid on time, jasus, to get it anytime is a nice bonus. ...... best paying hours are those on paperwork unless of course you're dairy farmer

tellmeabit · 12-03-2020 12:43am

I'll be back on. Whole lot. Never vaccinate here but would like to see if a difference if we did.

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 11:05am

I'm all in aswell. The whole vacination thing has being bugging me for a while. I was thinking all along to maybe look at doing cows for Lepto this year. Was going to discuss it with my vet.

893bet · 12-03-2020 11:25am

Vaccinate or feed meal.

How will a farmer be required to prove? Is it as simple as a self declaration (backed up by remedy records and feed receipts)?

Anto_Meath · 12-03-2020 11:57am

Defiantly worth doing it again this year, it was the handiest money I got last year anyway.

Lady Haywire · 12-03-2020 12:08pm

90 is much better than the last Beep payment. Where I'd get less than 400.
We already feed meal & dung sample so why not weight as well this time.

The11Duff · 12-03-2020 12:43pm

What happens if you have a set of twins???

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 1:11pm

In as well, money for jam

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 1:12pm

The11Duff wrote: »

What happens if you have a set of twins???

Its per calf but it looks like the dung sample money is per cow, so €90 for one and €80 for the other

Green&Red · 12-03-2020 1:16pm

893bet wrote: »

Vaccinate or feed meal.

How will a farmer be required to prove? Is it as simple as a self declaration (backed up by remedy records and feed receipts)?

Thats what the T&Cs say, record of feeding meal and proof of purchase
For the vaccinations ur vet does a plan for weaning for your farm but they name

- Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale
- At the same time, a Single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale)

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 1:20pm

Just click on it and the Terms & Conditions pop up.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/beep/

annubis · 12-03-2020 1:25pm

do you have to do fecal check on all cows if you do that option, looks like, that would probably be expensive ?

tanko · 12-03-2020 1:32pm

annubis wrote: »

do you have to do fecal check on all cows if you do that option, looks like, that would probably be expensive ?

You put your cows in a clean yard for a couple of hours, let them out, then collect ten separate samples in bags and post them to a lab.

An Post are going to love this scheme. It'll be farmers revenge for the price of posting BVD samples:D.

Dozer1 · 12-03-2020 1:37pm

I assume it's through www.mybeep.ie again for the scales, I'm in as the say on the vodafone add, money for good practice as far as I see it.

if this is the future of schemes buying a scales might become a necessity

patsy_mccabe · 12-03-2020 1:37pm

So for farmers who said last year the scheme was only a load of sh1te, might be right this year.

Biscuitus · 12-03-2020 4:47pm

Buying a scales was one of the best things we've done when it comes to parasite management. We were able to dose and use pour-ons to the ml needed. We had been under-dosing for years. On the downside we ended up spending a lot more on medicine this Winter but the animals look better

Parishlad · 12-03-2020 5:45pm

Just signed up. Only small numbers here as ye know but this is definitely worthwhile to me. The info from weighing is useful/interesting. Going with the vaccination and sampling options too.

Beep scheme - anyone joining

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