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Beep scheme - anyone joining

  • 24-01-2019 9:04pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭ Mac Taylor


    As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
    Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭ tanko


    The details are supposed to be out next week so it'll depend on what they say. It would be €1000 - €1200 a year for me so worth considering anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭ kollegeknight


    €480-€520 before equipment use for me depending on numbers so definitely not doing it. I have learned from bdgp- not worth the hassle.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭ Grueller


    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭ jfh


    Grueller wrote: »
    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

    Same. I'd be slow to commit to another 5 yrs


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭ Never wrestle with pigs


    No, they only want another stick to belt us with.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭ tractorporn


    Grueller wrote: »
    €2500 - €3000 from it here. Not to be sneezed at for me. If they put a 5 yr commitment on it though they can go be fcuked.

    Is it open to suckers and drystock? We're in the process of phasing out the cows here but would be keen enough to join. The brother in law already has a scales that he has said I can use so no money cost only time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭ Dozer1


    is there a reference year like the BDGP scheme, that frigged me right up as I'd low numbers the ref year so I actually keep double the cows I got paid for...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭ bogman_bass


    The way I see it, i’m Getting to weigh my cattle for free. And get a few bob thrown in as an added bonus.
    That’s good enough for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭ Limestone Cowboy


    I'd doubt it. It's enough of a job here to round everything up for the herd test.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭ Buford T. Justice XIX


    I'm thinking I'll let this one slide. I still haven't been paid the BDGP money, small as it is, so I've lost confidence that anyone actually gives a damn about their side of the agreement.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭ Hurling Hereford


    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    As above, €40 euro per calf, seems you can rent the scales for €50 euro.
    Not sure on the number of weigh ins required. For me it would be ~800 euro, can’t say whether I’m interested or not

    They can 'Beep' off with their Stupid Scheme


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭ TooOldBoots


    Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ Sligoronan


    Did anybody register scales yet. I can seem to find how to do so on the ICBF site.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭ TooOldBoots


    No I'll be renting the scales.
    Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭ Sami23


    Priced a new scales, it comes in at €1450 Inc vat.

    Where you price that - what make etc.
    Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself


  • Registered Users Posts: 879 ✭✭✭ Parishlad


    I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭ Sami23


    No I'll be renting the scales.
    Ticked the two boxes this morning so I'm in.

    Does anyone know if the calves you are weighing have to be born on your farm or if bought in Cows & Calves qualify too ?

    Also, is there a certain age the calves need to be for weighing ?
    TIA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 604 ✭✭✭ TooOldBoots


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Where you price that - what make etc.
    Was half thinking about buying one through Tams myself


    http://oneillweighing.ie/livestockweighingscales.html


    It was inside in liffey mills, I didn't do any negotiation so I was thinking it could be bought for €1400 inc vat
    With the VAT back and a TAMs grant it would come in at a cost to me of around €700


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭ Keepgrowing


    Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭ charolais0153


    Is it open to dairy heifer calves, if so I’m in

    No. Just sucklers


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭ Mad_maxx


    How long must you stay in this new scheme?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭ Sami23


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    How long must you stay in this new scheme?

    1 year


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,289 ✭✭✭✭ Mad_maxx


    Sami23 wrote: »
    1 year

    Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭ charolais0153


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Mate of mine with sucklers thought it was five, same as the bdgp?

    Its 1 year


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭ patsy_mccabe


    Parishlad wrote: »
    I signed up. 'Only' worth about €600 to me but if, as it appears, that's for one days work then I'll take it all day long!! :)

    Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

    Some info here;
    https://www.icbf.com/wp/?page_id=12735

    " And on the riverbank forgotten the river's name."



  • Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭ Simmental.


    Where did you sign up? Can you do it online?

    You can sign up on agfood


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭ Dozer1


    Signed up one year what the hell can't be that bad,

    Don't plan on buying a scales will get a lad in to weigh them as I don't have the numbers

    I assume I can weigh 2 times in the year, ideally I'd weigh the autumn calves in March and the spring born ones in Oct


  • Registered Users Posts: 766 ✭✭✭ leoch


    can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭ patsy_mccabe


    leoch wrote: »
    can anyone explain wat this scheme is for or about in simple terms ??
    You have to weigh the suckler cows and their calves between the dates of 4th Mar – 1st Nov 2019.
    From this they can measure the milk the cow produces (indirect tru the weight of the calf) and also what weight she is. Milk has always been difficult for ICBF to measure as it gets mudddled up with the amount of meal fed to the weanlings before they are sold.

    " And on the riverbank forgotten the river's name."



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭ coolshannagh28


    Its debatable if this is an effective means of recording cows milk potential , would the calf not need to be weighed at birth for any level of accuracy ? Its interesting that the drive towards milk will benefit dairy farmers as demand for dairy x heifers will increase as the govt proves their point .


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