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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I see what you mean and I have noted your comments.

    I don't think I wish to add to my previous posts on this matter just now.

    No offence intended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    In conclusion, it is a given that RTE like any part of the public service should be accountable for their spending of public money.

    Of course they should be accountable but Forbesy seems to have missed the memo. Publishes the top 10 earners whenever she feels like it/suits her strategically. Doesn't publish the other fees/salaries and has basically given the PAC the two fingers. Accountable my arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ are not accountable to PAC, PAC brought them in under employment practices at the company.

    RTÉ have some accountability to the The Committee on Media, very little really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I agree with this and the tweet is slightly facetious.

    RTÉ have a tendency to hype 3 or so shows.

    IMO RTÉ seem to think that the following brands are most important :-

    RTÉ Radio 1

    The Late Late Show

    The Late Late Toy Show

    RTÉ ONE

    After that there is very little in terms of marketing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    RTÉ are not accountable to PAC, PAC brought them in under employment practices at the company.

    @RoTelly yeah, I'm well aware of the reason Forbes was asked to come before the PAC ^



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Running RTÉ wouldn't scare me, would start tomorrow, though I probably be very busy, undoing the current mess :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭garrettod


    ... Please delete..

    Thanks,

    G.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Really should be a whine warning before George Lee comes on. Something like a siren and a big red triangle and someone shouting, "George is coming, we are all doomed"



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭glenfieldman


    Another great reason for not paying this stupid tax

    RTE are all over this Russia war, but the 6 news cannot cut from the rehashed 1 news to cover live stream from the UN like all other MSM

    amateurs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    RTE pushing Irish Water big style; Eco eye was basically a free ad for IW and tonight's news was another. Stand by for water charges...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    EcoEye is pure fantasist muck from the delusional mind of Duncan Stewart who was dropped on his head in Chermobyl. 10 minutes of it is enough for the most demure viewer to be shouting at the telly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    This is bought in by RTÉ is largely funding by various semi-state bodies not sure about IW, but EPA and the like "sponsor" it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭jippo nolan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭political analyst


    How many more episodes of the current series of The Tommy Tiernan Show are there to go? How hard did RTÉ look in their search for someone to present a Saturday night chat show?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They had 16 last year so 6 more to go? They previously had just 10 episodes.

    Big write up in the SBPost today.

    Really RTÉ have no plans to do anything to help themselves, rather lobby the government as to what funding they should get and what services they should be providing.

    If I do nothing and just go with the flow, should I pretend that I am having an existential crisis because everything around me is not going my way and I feel like I am look down on myself unable to change because everyone else is to blame. Or should I look at what I have an make the most of it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭rightmove


    And sure didnt his daughter get a presenting gig also.

    Well its rte after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So according to the Sunday Times RTÉ have put out a tender for Mass for their news channel.

    Mass was original placed on the news channel as part of the Covid response. Personally I see no problem with mass being available RTÉ ONE or Radio 1 on Sunday Mornings, indeed I have no problem with Services (protestant) been broadcast on Sundays. I even support the Angelus. And I can see the reason for Daily mass during the COVID pandemic for older people on the News channel. But even from my perspective I don't see the reason to waste money on a service that can be got from numerous outlets from Radio Maria to local streams of Masses around the country. I say all of this to avoid the arguments that come with religion on PSB/M.

    The RTÉ News channel is pure muck, surely this money would be better spent improving the service rather than a daily mass, sure why not have a daily national anthem played live by the RTÉ CO?

    It wouldn't take much to improve the RTÉ News channel. Remove the tickers and replace with one ticker along the bottom of the screen, by the RTÉ news logo. Add weather and currency info to top left of the screen, with the time to the top right and social media details in the right hand corner. Schedule repeats of sports highlight programmes after the news such as Against the Head and The Sunday Game, have live hourly updates. Bring back late night news to RTÉ2. etc etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    One other massive problem with RTÉ is the lifers that don't move.

    There are many in managerial positions who are in the same position as they were 20 to 25 years ago.

    It is similar to their News Correspondents, only that Damien Teirnan, Ciarnan Mallooly and Ingrid Miley left their positions did RTÉ get different people to takeover those roles. As I said there are many correspondents reporting on the same issues as they did 10, 20 and even 30 years ago.

    This seems to be the case for many more. The previous Head of Children's TV was their for nearly 20 years, one of the scheduling managers has had her position since 1999, another manager for imports and co-pros is there since at least 1998, the Executive Producer for Fair City is there since 2004 at least if not more. Surely with all of their experience they could move from one area to the next will little hinderance and provide a differing view when the do move.

    And then there seems to be the cult of RTÉ, no one can do wrong, this is RTÉ. Seems to me that they are defensive on the slightest bit of criticism. For example when the BBC announce a logo change a UK Twitter user posted an image of the RTÉ logo, asking if any other broadcasters should change their logo as they haven't changed in the last 25 years, an RTÉ employee insisted that the logo has changed, but it clearly hasn't, and finished a reply to another twitter user with "I really don't care", which was then bizarrely liked by another RTÉ employee?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So just to mention, TLLS was not in great shape audience wise prior to the death of Gay Byrne, Marian Finnucane etc in 2019. Those shows pre-date the covid and caused TLLS to gain audiences, or to bring back audiences. Then Covid hit and again TLLS gain an audience and kept it pretty much through out.

    In feb 2022 a massive decline in audiences for TLLS that not even a St. Val's special could rescue.

    Then the sad news of the invasion of Ukraine by Russia hits and audiences return.

    And the cynic in me thinks they couldn't possible run another show or guest about the Ukrainian war, but then the cynic thinks that the addition of the Mary Presidents might just be a ploy to raise TLLS audience.

    Cynical?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ^^^^

    No, just realistic and spot on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Possibly.

    It's a bit early to say though.

    If you just wait a couple of hours you can decide but don't be too hard on yourself.

    Interesting though that we have a chat show with two former Presidents, both of them women and hugely accomplished in their careers.

    Not many countries would have that to look forward to on a Friday night.

    I for one will be watching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It's unfortunate that they must suffer though an interview with Tubrity.

    Of course turning ones cynicism against them by mention the accomplishments of the guests and not that of the problem of TLLS and its host.

    Reminds me of a tweet last week that suggest the late late was so good tonight they were not going to hear a bad word against it!

    Happy to not watch the show ever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You suggested you might be a cynic, not me.

    I didn't say tonight's LLS will be good.

    How could I before it even starts.

    Little point in discussing it later with you if you don't watch it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah, but don't use it against me :)

    I tend to stop watching shows/programmes when I stop liking them, if I ever liked TLLS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Actually makes sense.

    Me too.

    There are programmes I wouldn't watch if you paid me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,487 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Most of RTE's output falls into that category

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why was it thought necessary to apologise for the language the Ukrainian MP was using? In the Indo, Ian O'Doherty asked who gave that instruction - he believes that someone told Claire via her earpiece to, as I quote from Ian, "back it up"? If that's what happened, Claire could have disregarded the instruction, couldn't she?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    A tailor’s dummy would be an improvement on her interviewing skills!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,582 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    At least extra.ie had a little shred of decency and put "apologising" in inverted commas.

    There was no apology you are getting worked up over a non story from an unreliable source.



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    Quite unbelievable that Claire should apologise, with or without the quote marks. She simply isn't up to the task. Between her and Brendan O'Connor with his constant "apologies" for comments made by interviewees, RTE really needs to look at issuing an apology itself, for failing to employ people who are up to the job.

    I'm not hankering for a Paxman-like approach to the job, but for pity's sake get Sarah McInerney back on running that 10 - 12 slot. Claire is suitable for a light magazine programme. She might do a better job between 3 and 4.30.

    Hmm, I'm enjoying reorganising the RTE presenters.... Someone needs to do it and there's no sign that any of the current RTE exec team rolling their sleeves up and doing it. There are generations of group think in that particular team.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    If Claire didn’t apologise the same people would be on social media crying about the language on the show.

    Websites like “extra”? A plague on every country because all they make up is lies to get clicks. How many people actually complained? 1 or 2?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ executives don't actually know anything about RTÉ. They don't know what shows the produced, they don't know what cuts they have made, they don't understand the Broadcasting Act 2009. Claire Byrne would be a good Irish version of Victoria Derbiersher or Anne Robinson, suited to morning TV. But then RTÉ executives possibly beleive RTÉ has a morning TV show!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Hi, I don't usually read tv guides so can someone who does please advise what day/time this week the movie 'Chasing Leprechauns' starring Amy Huberman will be shown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I don't see it on the TV guide. Are you sure its on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    It’s Amy Huberman, and it’s RTÉ, and it’s a leprechaun movie…….

    It simply must be on!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Interestingly, ITN employed her as a newscaster on its short-lived news channel and on its bulletins on Channel 5 over 20 years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why would they complain about Russian invaders being compared to rodents?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And she's presented 2 daytime shows on both VMTV and RTÉ. Nothing of note.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,992 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Imagine getting a car or mileage allowance to go to work…… and your work has been in the same place your whole career.

    I get it that some staff will have travel to do around the country, but managers getting a car allowance of up to €25k a year is beyond a piss take.

    So in 4 years Dee would have got €100k in car allowance!! That would get her a top of the range Merc/BMW that she’d now own outright.


    ”oh but it’s only a tiny proportion our expenditure, a drop in the ocean”

    ok then, cancel all car allowances, and there’s about 1m saved, only another €59m to go…..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    "It had aimed to achieve savings of €60m over three years up to 2023, but some of the proposals it tabled have not been implemented."

    RTÉ actually only had to save €6m to €9m from costs, as the Minister Bruton gave them €10m in extra funding from 2020 to 2024 (€50m in total), while Minister Martin moved the NSO over to the NCH, a saving of at least €8m, the move made in 2021 (finalized in 2022, after 3 years of discussions!).

    2020 - Saving €10m (from exchequer funding)

    2021 - as above + Saving €8m (for the move of NSO to the NCH, no paid for via the ... exchequre) total €18m

    2022 - as above total €18million

    2023 - as above total €18million

    Total saving over 4 years €54million

    The Executive Board averages €50k in expenses each year, losset was in 2020 at €20,000, majority of which was for flights to NYC for Jon Williams, in 2020, in 2020 in 2020 FFS.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Andy, Andy, Andy you for got that She also got €50,000 in moving expenses when she took up the job, her 10% pay cut just about covers that €50k which RTÉ should never have offered her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    They put killnascully on at 7pm on St.Patricks day, they should have been shut down at 7.05



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It was either that or a repeat of Celebrity pullin with my parents which is on tonight on RTÉ, I suppose some manager in RTÉ has to get the vida tape from the cork office and bring it back to Dublin so they can claim their 11,000 in car allowances!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Reeling in the Years raised its ugly head as well, 1979 for some obscure reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I MIGHT pay my licence fee if Tubridy, Duffy , Darcy and Dee Forbes were shown the door

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    RITY may be repeated ad nauseum but it is still light years ahead of the other guff RTE puts out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    After seeing that traveller special last night, I'm glad none of my money goes towards RTE



  • Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was there a point to that last night.....like who's idea was it that primetime Monday evening viewing would be a one-sided homage to travellers???

    Got to be honest...i switched to Netflix when senator ( NEVER ELECTED...just a " nod" from Leo varadkar) Eileen Flynn started educating me that the reason 25% of the prison population are travellers is all Society's fault



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Is everything else just a distraction?

    We should only comment on the use of the Angelus, we should argue about Travellers, we should point out the high quality nature of RTÉ investigates, we should get up in arms about Airy-fairy things .... just as long as we don't look at RTÉ's as an organisation?


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