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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    TG4 is a separate company to RTÉ, the only connection is Nuacht TG4 and a few Irish language programmes produced RTÉ but its mainly news and current affairs.

    You can switch of TG4 subtitling on their player.


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  • Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seriously??? Oh Jesus..... it's a good job Netflix is on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,832 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    The bad weather disrupted many people's internet, so streaming services weren't an option. I'd say many a person was stuck watching shows they wouldn't give a second glace because of the storms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Many people were fortunate to have also been without electricity :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So Claire Byrne is taking a well deserved break!

    This is the first time that an RTÉ TV and Radio presenter took their holidays from their Radio show along with their TV show!

    Me thinks that the negiotiations for cuts to their wages/salaries goes something like this

    RTÉ 2020: Look we have to make it look like we are cutting back, so rather then the normal 40 weeks on the radio we reduce it down to 35 weeks, but TV remains the same

    RTÉ 2021: Look we have to make it look like we are cutting back, so rather then the normal 35 weeks on the radio we reduce it down to 30 weeks, but TV remains the same, except for you Claire take one of you shows of, take one of the desks we keep building for that show also, you might need it in your shed one day!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,832 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


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    Wonder if it's the side effects of Covid? This isn't a dig, btw. Still feeling side effects of it myself, and I had it before Claire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No remember she was saying how she wanted more time with the kids and that you need that work live balance. And we all said how her work life balance at RTÉ is actually very good, along with a very nice pay check.... now I am digging :)


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  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah regardless of pay that would piss me off of a Monday, doing a split shift of 10-12pm on the radio then back in for 9pm to do the TV till after 11pm and be back in for the radio at 10am on Tuesday?

    Just RTE being RTE, Katie would be grand in that slot on a Monday evening if she didn't have to follow CB's format and maybe it was more her Saturday lunch time format or evening slots on the radio.



  • Posts: 4,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A bit tangential to this, but I am interested to see that Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis are leaving the BBC to work for Global, following Andrew Marr who left at the end of last year. Given that all of them are, IMO, very able and talented, this is a pretty big loss to the Beeb.

    I'm sure Dee Forbes will be concerned that there will be a similar loss of talent from RTE. Are we going to see the loss of Joe Duffy, Ryan Tubridy, Ray D'Arcy? Perhaps Sarah McInerney, who was dragged off the radio to make room for "shoe-in" Claire Byrne. I'd be sorry to see her go, but she's the only one I'd miss. And she's not one of the fold in NKTM

    OK, thanks, we can get back on topic now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    So I emailed the Oireachtas Committee about RTÉ 2020 cut to Lyric FM after they'd received €10m extra to save the station. They had the begging bowl out if you remember and threatened its closure.

    Anyway I got a reply that they were waiting for the publication of the Future of Media Commission, not sure if it will mention Lyric FM but there you go.

    I was thinking @elperello are you and advisor to that committee?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I expect it was a holding reply.

    Regarding your question addressed to me I have no comment to make at this point in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No I thought that at first but reread it, its their reply full-stop.

    Re: your reply, 😂


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Though I do have to ask @elperello since the €10m was to part define in 2019 what PSB meant and there was an understanding that RTÉ would maintain their Lyric FM service with this help, do you think that RTÉ have any questions to answer when they cut funding to Lyric FM in 2020?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Why doesn't RTÉ advertise externally for the Washington Correspondent vacancy?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Ah now Elperello you can guess what I think by how I have stated the question. I am asking you feel about this move by RTÉ.

    Let say tomorrow we all agreed the PBS broadcasting was to be made up of all of the services that RTÉ currently have and that we all agreed that the licence fee should increase to 170 and that every household pays the fee regardless.

    In year one RTÉ don't increase funding to children's TV, don't increase funding to Lyric FM but instead increase public funding to 2fm and TV entertainment programming like DWTS and also increase the fees to their presenters and there is really no discernible difference between RTÉ pre-agreement and post-agreement.

    Do we just continue and say oh well that is a "decision" for RTÉ management? Or Well its only the first year and it takes time for that funding to be seen, and really it won't be seen until year 2? and then so on for another decade.

    So back to the original question: -

    In 2019 RTÉ ran a report on Prime Time on the suggested clousure of Lyric FM.

    After this they were awared an extra €10m so that they could keep Lyric FM in Limerick.

    In 2020 funding to lyric was cut by 16%. In relaity this would have been the amount of money RTÉ were possibly going to save by moving lyric to Dublin and Cork.

    Now honestly is this in anyway fair?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Largley speaking RTÉ rooate their correspondents with the exception of the regional ones, and for some reason Crime (he's been their 30 to 35 years) and Education (she's been their 20 to 25 years).

    I worry that neither Crime (he's very tabloid and takes the Police line on almost everything) or Education (she's very bias and shows her own opinions consistently) have changed in the past few decades. Igrid Miley was also another that was left in situ for a very long period.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    Is RTE still poking fun at God.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I've already outlined my position regarding a Public Broadcasting Service many times on this thread and others.

    We need to decide what sort of PBS we want and how we want to pay for it.

    Obviously the decision on the nature of PBS will require input from anyone interested.

    As for funding I think the licence is an outmoded relic of the 20th century and should be abolished.

    I favour direct exchequer funding which would remove all collection costs ,evasion

    PBS TV would be free at point of use just like radio is today.

    I have also posted in the past supporting LYRIC and I am in favour of keeping them in Limerick.

    In conclusion, it is a given that RTE like any part of the public service should be accountable for their spending of public money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    But Elperello this is what I mean.

    Clearly after RTÉ had produced a report for Prime Time which examined the axing of Lyric FM, then RTÉ appearance before the Oireachtas committee, followed by a wide ranging discussion in the dail which all resulted in €10m for RTÉ. Is that not discussion a top level discussion by our elected representives "deciding what sort of PBS we want and how we want to pay for it".

    The government gave RTÉ €10m from the exchequer and RTÉ then proceeded to cut funding to the service that the elected representatives were trying to save.

    They have done what you have asked now when a decision is made how do you feel when RTÉ make a cut to that same service?


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Paul Reynolds, whose father was a garda, doesn't sound tabloid at all - he speaks with authority. TV journalists who are the children or grandchildren of police and military personnel are some of the best ones, e.g. James Mates, Alastair Stewart, Julia Somerville, Mark Urban.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Diceicle


    I've changed my mind on Lyric - I used to support their existence in terms of providing otherwise non-commercially viable programming as part of the PSB remit - but times have changed. There is a host of Lyric alternatives available and I no longer see why it should be funded by the taxpayer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,503 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    And RTE shows feed each other with content, hence the reason the 3 main shows are hyped and talked about to death.

    Operation Transformation is talked about on the Darcy Show non-stop.

    DWTS gets a lot of time too, and on the Tubs radio show.

    And don't forget how much Late Late Show is filled up with people from OT, DWTS.

    And also whenever RTE has a big drama on, be it Kin or Smother, it too will fill a lot of radio discussion slots.


    Its feeds itself. Keeps everyone relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Diceicle


    I think this is a pretty good analysis of RTE: https://www.youtube.com/embed/WD7CD-02CJE



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Ballycommon Mast


    There is an interesting situation that an number of 2fm djs who were hired by John Clarke in the 00s are unsackable RTE staffers, that's why Rick O'Shea and Will Leahy were rehoused on RTE Gold . Recently you had 2fm announcing an new schedule leaving out Dan Hegarty who has been on late nights since Summer 2003, Jenny Greene was advertised as the new host of the 10/Midnight indie show, however late last Friday night, 2fm all of a sudden announce that Jenny Greene will now be on 9pm till 11, while Dan Hegarty will be doing a one hour show from 11 till midnight. Did someone not know Hegarty was a staffer ? Was someone hoping he'd take redundancy ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    If your father is or was a Garda you most likely have a bias, and he has increasingly become tabloid in his tackling of organized crime etc.

    Next your going to tell me that Emma O'Kelly mother is a Teacher!

    RTÉ should look to insure their correspondents rotate every 4 to 6 years, but being in a role for 10 or more is not good for PSB news IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,433 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I see what you mean and I have noted your comments.

    I don't think I wish to add to my previous posts on this matter just now.

    No offence intended.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,163 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    In conclusion, it is a given that RTE like any part of the public service should be accountable for their spending of public money.

    Of course they should be accountable but Forbesy seems to have missed the memo. Publishes the top 10 earners whenever she feels like it/suits her strategically. Doesn't publish the other fees/salaries and has basically given the PAC the two fingers. Accountable my arse.



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