Is America treating the UK like a colony?

Fan of Netflix · 05-06-2019 1:26pm

AdamD wrote: »

Why the **** would we need air defence against the Russians?

Absolutely bizarre post.

It's the type of stuff you expect from the union jack flagsters.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-06-2019 1:35pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Thanks for your intelligent contribution but we didn't need to partake of the soup.

The brits have a knack of always coming out on top in the long run.

The EU will eventually implode without serious reform. Where are we at then?

In the meantime not having any sort of ally in the Union worries me a lot. I've a feeling that we're going to get rolled. Eventual tax harmonisation in particular is going to sting badly.

05-06-2019 1:48pm

AdamD wrote: »

Why the **** would we need air defence against the Russians?

Absolutely bizarre post.

InTheShadows · 05-06-2019 1:52pm

ratracer wrote: »

Our mob will be no different when he’s here!

They'll be worse and always have. Look at the pathetic fawning over Obama last time he was here. It's hilarious to hear people giving out about the British considering the way we act here in this country.

tryfix · 05-06-2019 1:54pm

The UK doffing the cap to a US President is par for the course, Bush, Blair and poodles it's what they do.

I get no joy at seeing the shocking state of UK politics at the moment. It beggars belief that the governing Tory party has become so dysfunctional that it is having a civil war meltdown in public at such a crucial time for the UKs future. It's treachery that all those ridiculous mid-level politicians are running around with puffed out chests spouting nonsense while the clock ticks down to a crash out. Piss up, brewery, wtf is in the water over there?

Auguste Comte · 05-06-2019 1:57pm

tryfix wrote: »

I get no joy at seeing the shocking state of UK politics at the moment.

Not even a teeny tiney bit?

topmanamillion · 05-06-2019 2:00pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what the sweet fcuk Trump was on about when he said the NHS was 'on the table' when it comes to Brexit negotiations???

He wants private US companies to take over the running of NHS healthboard Trusts.
Although he has since backtracked on this. Its hard to know what he wants seeing as at one point when he was asked about the NHS it appeared May had to explain to him what the NHS was.

AbdulAbhaile · 05-06-2019 2:06pm

topmanamillion wrote: »

May had to explain to him what the NHS was.

The NHS must sound like communism to him. He's probably planning an invasion as we speak to liberate them from this. Biggly.

tryfix · 05-06-2019 2:07pm

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Not even a teeny tiney bit?

Honestly not even a little bit and I'm definitely on the opposite side of the fence to the UK fanboys . The whole Brexit thing is a giant pain in the hole that drains everyone's energy. I wish that they'd just get on with it and feck off out of the EU so that some kind of normality could return.

InTheShadows · 05-06-2019 2:09pm

AbdulAbhaile wrote: »

The NHS must sound like communism to him. He's probably planning an invasion as we speak to liberate them from this. Biggly.

But yet under Trump America has invaded nobody

threeball · 05-06-2019 2:12pm

Anteayer wrote: »

It's pseudopatriotic neoliberalism. They're just wrapping a layer of patriotism around deregulation and removing the safety systems of a free market, social democracy.

Stick a Union Jack on it, salute it and call anyone who disagree with you a traitor. Oldest trick in the book?

It's what the yanks have been doing since the first world war.

who the fug · 05-06-2019 2:13pm

AbdulAbhaile wrote: »

The NHS must sound like communism to him. He's probably planning an invasion as we speak to liberate them from this. Biggly.

Or the US Military , as it just keeps swallowing all the money given to it, keeps asking for more, and it unpatriotic to ask why are we funding this beast

jimgoose · 05-06-2019 2:15pm

AbdulAbhaile wrote: »

The NHS must sound like communism to him. He's probably planning an invasion as we speak to liberate them from this. Biggly.

Tellin' ya, Gerry Ford's economics are the worst thing that's happened to this country since pantyhose ruined finger-fucking.

cameramonkey · 05-06-2019 2:28pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

But yet under Trump America has invaded nobody

They are just bombing loads of countries and killing lots of people. They are also maintaining fighting forces on the ground in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan to name but a few.

Bolton would love to invade Iran and Venezuela to create mayhem but the military boys are not backing him.

steddyeddy · 05-06-2019 2:30pm

Aegir wrote: »

The house speaker, Nancy Pelosi said that a trade deal would not happen if peace in Northern Ireland was endangered. You think the Americans would sit back if Russia started bombing Ireland for some reason?

05-06-2019 2:32pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

The house speaker, Nancy Pelosi said that a trade deal would not happen if peace in Northern Ireland was endangered. You think the Americans would sit back if Russia started bombing Ireland for some reason?

so you are saying that Ireland does need air defence?

If so, then why does it hide behind the UK?

An Claidheamh · 05-06-2019 2:51pm

Aegir wrote: »

so you are saying that Ireland does need air defence?

If so, then why does it hide behind the UK?

Hide behind the UK?

What can the UK do to the Russians Aegir, apart from complain about their crimes and do nothing?

UK is hiding behind America, just like everyone, UK just wants to be its satrap.

By the way, look at how the UK has punished the Kremlin for poisoning its citizens - it hasn't.

UK still deluding itself its powerful = Brexit

Must be infuriating to the Brits that Ireland has more influence in Congress than them, and hasn't spent a cent on an useless aircraft carrier or nukes they cannot use without US permission.

05-06-2019 3:00pm

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Hide behind the UK?

What can the UK do to the Russians Aegir, apart from complain about their crimes and do nothing?

UK is hiding behind America, just like everyone, UK just wants to be its satrap.

By the way, look at how the UK has punished the Kremlin for poisoning its citizens - it hasn't.

UK still deluding itself its powerful = Brexit

Must be infuriating to the Brits that Ireland has more influence in Congress than them, and hasn't spent a cent on an useless aircraft carrier or nukes they cannot use without US permission.

Russian bombers enter UK Airspace, RAF escorts them until they clear off.

Russian Bombers enter Irish airspace, RAF escorts them until they clear off...then tell the Irish who knew nothing about the two bombers flying across international air lanes with no transponders on, in an area that it is their duty to control.

no US involvement whatsoever.

cameramonkey · 05-06-2019 3:06pm

Aegir wrote: »

Russian bombers enter UK Airspace, RAF escorts them until they clear off.

Russian Bombers enter Irish airspace, RAF escorts them until they clear off...then tell the Irish who knew nothing about the two bombers flying across international air lanes with no transponders on, in an area that it is their duty to control.

no US involvement whatsoever.

The Russian aircraft did not enter either Irish or UK airspace.

It would be a very different outcome if that had happened.

Why were civilian aircraft affected if they the Irish controllers only heard about the Russian aircraft after the event.

dd973 · 05-06-2019 3:09pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

This rambling post says more about your anti-British mentality than the subject under discussion.

Proudly anti-British, that is the U.K state, nothing against the island of Britain or the English, Scots and Welsh and wider populations who live there.

Detest the monarchy, the public school system, the British Armed Forces, the Butcher's Apron, 6 of our counties under another jurisdiction, the British state's historical crimes.

recedite · 05-06-2019 3:13pm

cameramonkey wrote: »

They are just bombing loads of countries and killing lots of people.

You're not very big on specifics, are you.

cameramonkey wrote: »

They are also maintaining fighting forces on the ground in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan to name but a few.

Gradually extricating themselves from wars started by previous presidents.
Here's a list of some of the countries bombed by Obama and Bush.
And that's not including Obama's massive expansion of the very dodgy drone strike execution program, and his War on Wikileaks.

cameramonkey · 05-06-2019 3:16pm

recedite wrote: »

You're not very big on specifics, are you.
Gradually extricating themselves from wars started by previous presidents.
Here's a list of some of the countries bombed by Obama and Bush.
And that's not including Obama's massive expansion of the very dodgy drone strike execution program, and his War on Wikileaks.

Are you trying to say that Obama and Bush were more bomb happy than Trump?

recedite · 05-06-2019 3:17pm

cameramonkey wrote: »

Are you trying to say that Obama and Bush were more bomb happy than Trump?

I certainly am.

emo72 · 05-06-2019 3:18pm

Can't believe what I'm hearing about the NHS.
"Our corporate soulsuckers has sucked America dry, now we need your people to suck on."

What will the UK do? This is madness that it's even suggested. This is s dystopian future right now. The fukin cheek of them.

dd973 · 05-06-2019 3:19pm

tryfix wrote: »

The UK doffing the cap to a US President is par for the course, Bush, Blair and poodles it's what they do.

I get no joy at seeing the shocking state of UK politics at the moment. It beggars belief that the governing Tory party has become so dysfunctional that it is having a civil war meltdown in public at such a crucial time for the UKs future. It's treachery that all those ridiculous mid-level politicians are running around with puffed out chests spouting nonsense while the clock ticks down to a crash out. Piss up, brewery, wtf is in the water over there?

Reality has caught up with it, their political and electoral system isn't fit for purpose on top of 40 years of neoliberalism and 10 years of austerity that people are sick of and see it all for the scam it all is. Like here, social mobility has ceased and unless there's radical reform and redistribution, the future is grim.

Work in one of Bezos' or Mike Ashley's warehouses on a ZHC for £8.50 an hour while they sit on their arses counting their billions?, f**k off.

cameramonkey · 05-06-2019 3:20pm

recedite wrote: »

I certainly am.

I would not disagree but it does not mean that Trump is entirely innocent of the charge. He ran on a non interventionist ticket but has bombed Syria and is supporting the genocidal Saudis in their war in Yemen.

Hardly a saint is Trump.

steddyeddy · 05-06-2019 3:23pm

Aegir wrote: »

so you are saying that Ireland does need air defence?

If so, then why does it hide behind the UK?

No it doesn't need air defence. It sits in between the US and the UK. Even if the UK decided not to help out during this supposedly imminent Russian bombing the Americans would pressure them until they did. It isn't in anyone's interest for Ireland to be attacked by the Russians.

05-06-2019 3:26pm

cameramonkey wrote: »

The Russian aircraft did not enter either Irish or UK airspace.

Irish controlled airspace

cameramonkey wrote: »

It would be a very different outcome if that had happened.

from who?

cameramonkey wrote: »

Why were civilian aircraft affected if they the Irish controllers only heard about the Russian aircraft after the event.

civilian airlines were protected, because the British fighters put their transponders on, so other planes could see them. As the Norwegians did prior to handing over to the British and the French did after they took over.

The Irish, on the other hand, did nothing.

05-06-2019 3:27pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

No it doesn't need air defence. It sits in between the US and the UK. Even if the UK decided not to help out during this supposedly imminent Russian bombing the Americans would pressure them until they did. It isn't in anyone's interest for Ireland to be attacked by the Russians.

so it hides behind Britain and the US?

jimgoose · 05-06-2019 3:35pm

cameramonkey wrote: »

The Russian aircraft did not enter either Irish or UK airspace...

A pair of Tu-160 Blackjacks, a cruise missile capable aircraft, entered what's known as the UK's "area of interest", usually understood to mean that portion of territory for which the UK provides ATC services. Typhoons from RAF Lossiemouth and RAF Coningsby cruised over to eyeball your bloody Ivan until he wandered off again. And the World turns.

Is America treating the UK like a colony?

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