Peugeot 208e 50kWh

Mike9832 wrote: »

Prices in Germany are out, starting at €30,000, less €4000 incentive they have its €26,000 OTR

https://www.peugeot.de/modelle/alle-modelle/neuer-peugeot-208/konfigurator.html#/design

Leaf40 is €36,000 there, less incentive €32,000 OTR

https://www.nissan.de/fahrzeuge/neuwagen/leaf/konfigurator.html#configure/BANt/A

How much does that translate to here?

I am thinking €27,000 for base model

Not bad imo for a 50kWh quick little hatch

I will buy if that price

136ps, 8 seconds to 60 in a small hatch would be great fun

We get an extra €1 grant and the extra VAT we pay is well under €1k, so overall it should be cheaper here than in Germany. So cheaper than €27k for the base model. And there is no VRT on a car of this value. Is consistent with your figure of €32k for the L40 over there. That is cheaper here too

Looks like you are finally going to buy an EV then

Will we actually get the base model here though or will we be stuck with more expensive higher spec GT/GT line spec?????

Mike9832 wrote: »

Prices out

Active - £25,050

Allure - £26,250

GT-Line - £28,100

GT (EV only) - £29,650

After grants

Wondering will Active model be under €27,500 here?

Wouldn't be a bad price for 50kWh

https://media.peugeot.co.uk/file/09/7/all-new-peugeot-208.574097.pdf?lcdv16=1PP2A5TMT1XXXXXX

ex Vat before grant price for the Active is £23162. Convert to euro, add 23% VAT and subtract our €5k grant brings it to €25847. No VRT as its under €35k.

Add in some paddy pricing, metallic, delivery and related charges should have it for around the €28k mark alright.

That would be a decent price beating the Leaf for range and price.


I also note they are offering 3ph charger for just £300. That would be a useful extra and its very reasonably priced.


When are deliveries expected to start in the UK?

Another short 5min review... mainly positive, some reservation about ride quality.

Just posted on Facebook Ev group can’t find any other link for it.
Peugeot e-208. Active version from €27,334 plus delivery, inclusive of SEAI grant and VRT relief.

No prices for other specs GT line is about £3k more in the Uk so €31k ball park here?

Doesn’t seem too bad value especially compared to the Kona?!

Possibly but Peugeot don’t seem to round their prices off, edit well actually they do to nearest 5

https://media.peugeot.ie/file/21/6/peugeot-passenger-cars-retail-price-list.pdf?lcdv16=1PI4SYFKQ5U0A0E0

Mike9832 wrote: »

Think 208e is much better value...
Way faster charging, ..., liquid cooling

I'd hold your fire on the charging front until you see some unbiased reviews. The new Ioniq apparently has liquid cooling and look what they did to that!

And there's #coldgate to consider.

Old diesel wrote: »

Peugeot claims a 30 minute to 80 percent time on 100 kw charger Vs Hyundais 54 mins.

Think Renault are close to an hour too.

Renault and Peugeot use similar size battery but Renault use cool air/fan based active cooling Vs Peugeot's liquid cooling.

Yes the Peugeot will take longer then 30 mins on 50 kw charger clearly.

But Mike's view that the Peugeot will charge faster is a reasonable based on what we know to date.

Edit - I prefer the Renault - am not happy with what the reviews are saying on the Peugeot's ride.

Have driven the older Zoe and was happy with the ride on that.

I just dont trust anything to do with charging times on manufacturers marketing. We've seen it enough of times now with rapidgate, coldgate and a liquid cooled Ioniq that is worse than the Leaf!

Its like getting an NEDC figure... yes it will do that mpg in a specific set of circumstances but what will it do in my real world all year round.


But I agree the indications are that it will be faster but I wouldnt be putting down a deposit on the strength of it yet until I see a Bjorn review or such!

Any idea when the é 2008 is supposed to join the party,? (be really into kona territory). Add another 4 or 5 grand i suppose,
Were the Zoe prices above including or excluding government grant...?

Markcheese wrote: »

Any idea when the é 2008 is supposed to join the party,? (be really into kona territory). Add another 4 or 5 grand i suppose,
Were the Zoe prices above including or excluding government grant...?

zoe prices above were including afaik

DrPhilG wrote: »

This is my frustration with Bjorn. He will rarely if ever really hammer a car to find a worst case scenario for range.

I realise that speed limits are much lower and annoyingly restrictive but it is possible to fully test a car at higher speed.

Even when he was testing for rapidgate he was doing a leisurely drive at 80kmph between charges.

He does a high speed test on cars, 110km/h.
That is the speed limit in Norway.

JPA wrote: »

He does a high speed test on cars, 110km/h.
That is the speed limit in Norway.

I could have sworn the motorway from Oslo to the airport was 120km limit but I must have imagined it. I do remember doing 120kmph on it in a Model S and being overtaken by 2 idiots racing, a Porsche and another Model S who must have been doing close to 180kmph. Blew past me as if I was walking.

Lumen wrote: »

Aside from the unreasonableness of expecting him to drive illegally for your benefit, worst case scenario is meaningless.

Settle your wee self. Unless you'd care to point out where I suggested he drive illegally?

If someone wants to drive Dublin to Cork or Belfast, in typical Irish weather, then it's perfectly reasonable for someone to want to know what a car will manage at 120kmph in cold weather. That is what I would class as worst case scenario - legal speed limit on the motorway.

What you have said is what my issue is. He always actively tries to maximise range. OK he is limited by the 110km limit in Norway but I've seen many videos where he is driving on a 110km road and only doing 100kmph to conserve range.

I am happy to try and maximise range, but I'd rather know what the bottom line is and anything else is a bonus.

DrPhilG wrote: »

I could have sworn the motorway from Oslo to the airport was 120km limit but I must have imagined it.

Yay, I wasn't losing the plot. Just texted my friend who lives outside Oslo. There is a stretch of 120km limit near the airport.

Norwegian limits are stupid. I understand the need for caution as there are some very windy roads. But many of the windy roads through the mountains are 80km limit and then you reach nice wide main roads that are only 60km.

Made enjoying my rental Model S a bit frustrating which is why I volunteered to leave my friend's brother to the airport after the wedding.

rivegauche wrote: »

windy or winding or both?

I was there in late September, it wasn't overly windy, but the roads were very windy.

Drove from Oslo to Bergen through the mountains, that was quite the experience. Heavy snow.

KCross wrote: »

A beautiful drive though!

Absolutely. Stunning. And I was certainly thankful for the winter tyres.

unkel wrote: »

Bjørn is the new WLTP. Proper real life, independent and reliable testing

the TBTP he calls it.
More useful than anything official.
I think he got sub 150km in an Ioniq in the winter doing 120.

Must have been well cold!

Interesting he still got 200km at 80km/h