Prince Andrew in jep?

DrPhilG · 25-11-2019 9:12pm

Found it, Monday December 2nd at 8:30, BBC 1.

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2019 9:14pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Not on the BBC as far as I can see.

It is not advertised on BBCNI, but I checked listings, it is on. If you have satellite you should get it on the BBC general broadcast.

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/

Berserker5 · 25-11-2019 9:14pm

Emily Maitlis will drag every last detail out to leave no doubt he was lying

Poetic justice

DrPhilG · 25-11-2019 9:15pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It is not advertised in BBCNI, but I checked listings, it is on. If you have satellite you should get it on the BBC general broadcast.

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/

That's an episode about Chinese camps. The Virginia Roberts one is next Monday.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10407993/virginia-roberts-bbc-andrew-epstein/

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2019 9:18pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

That's an episode about Chinese camps. The Virginia Roberts one is next Monday.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10407993/virginia-roberts-bbc-andrew-epstein/

We will find out in 10 minutes, I am pretty sure it is on tonight.

podgeandrodge · 25-11-2019 9:32pm

Sorry if asked already but long thread:

1) In the Prince Andrew interview, he was asked had he recently met Ghislaine Maxwell, and he said that he had earlier this year. He was asked whether he had discussed Epstein, but said no, as it hadn't been in the news at the time.

But given all the questions relating to whether the famous photo with him, the accuser, and Maxwell is fake or not, and given the fact that the photo has been in the public domain since 2011 I think, why would he say he thinks the photo might be fake, or doesn't recall being upstairs, when all he had to do was ask Maxwell earlier this year if she recalls the photo? (I know that if he had and she said yes, it wouldn't help him, but I am surprised the BBC interviewer didn't ask this specific question).

2) If in Pizza express, which was a rare thing to do as he says himself, surely there are loads of ex. pizza express staff that will recall the day Prince Andrew strolled in with his kids. And presumably a few photos as well. Where are they?

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2019 9:33pm

It is not on. They are going for some anti-China propaganda instead.:rolleyes:

Pity .

Reviews and Books Galore · 25-11-2019 9:34pm

Candie wrote: »

Age of consent laws are lower in some countries but usually there are laws regarding the age gap, this is so teenagers having sex with each other are fine, but older adults having sex with teens is recognised as probably exploitative. Young adults are easy to manipulate by predators, which is what I'd describe a middle aged man or woman targeting teenagers for sex.

You might feel that a person of 18 is over the age of consent and therefore there is nothing wrong with them having sex with a rich, more powerful, person in their 50's, but I don't agree. Sure it's not illegal, but the power and experience of the older person means the younger one is at an immediate disadvantage and is vulnerable to exploitation, usually without realising it.

There is a universe of difference between two 16 year olds having sex, and a 16 year old in a sexual relationship with a person decades older where they are at a major disadvantage in terms of age, experience and wealth, and lacking the options those things confer on the other person.

Noting those things doesn't make someone a prude or anti-sex.

Towards the part in bold,you are being very condescending. And I am saying this as a man who has dated older women at that age.

DrPhilG · 25-11-2019 9:37pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

It is not on. They are going for some anti-China propaganda instead.:rolleyes:

Pity .

Hate to say I told ya so...

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2019 9:40pm

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Sorry if asked already but long thread:

1) In the Prince Andrew interview, he was asked had he recently met Ghislaine Maxwell, and he said that he had earlier this year. He was asked whether he had discussed Epstein, but said no, as it hadn't been in the news at the time.

But given all the questions relating to whether the famous photo with him, the accuser, and Maxwell is fake or not, and given the fact that the photo has been in the public domain since 2011 I think, why would he say he thinks the photo might be fake, or doesn't recall being upstairs, when all he had to do was ask Maxwell earlier this year if she recalls the photo? (I know that if he had and she said yes, it wouldn't help him, but I am surprised the BBC interviewer didn't ask this specific question).

2) If in Pizza express, which was a rare thing to do as he says himself, surely there are loads of ex. pizza express staff that will recall the day Prince Andrew strolled in with his kids. And presumably a few photos as well. Where are they?

I think everyone accepts at this stage that the BBC interview was a total "car crash" and he took a massive risk denying the encounter. His tack at the time was a flat denial, that has not worked.

IAMAMORON · 25-11-2019 9:42pm

DrPhilG wrote: »

Hate to say I told ya so...

Why are they waiting another week?

Berserker5 · 25-11-2019 10:25pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Why are they waiting another week?

Suspense

Berserker5 · 26-11-2019 8:19pm

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Virginia Roberts tweeting that Andrew should be in jail

sonofenoch · 01-12-2019 11:59pm

Couldn't find a celebrity death thing so why not here....anyway apparently rumours circulating the Queen is dead (is she a celebrity ?)

https://twitter.com/Finty1888/status/1201240568338305030

tuxy · 02-12-2019 12:02am

Sounds like something at least one person would post everyday on twitter. I'm fairly sure they would not delay such an announcement.

Conall Cernach · 02-12-2019 12:13am

tuxy wrote: »

Sounds like something at least one person would post everyday on twitter. I'm fairly sure they would not delay such an announcement.

Andrew is stopping it being released until he has Charlie, his sons and grandchildren in a minibus in a Parisian tunnel.

Quantum Erasure · 06-12-2019 1:03am

sonofenoch wrote: »

Couldn't find a celebrity death thing so why not here....anyway apparently rumours circulating the Queen is dead (is she a celebrity ?)

https://twitter.com/Finty1888/status/1201240568338305030

apparently it was a Military drill, that someone thought was real

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/royal-navy-admits-exercise-started-3613894?

Royal Navy admits exercise started Queen is dead rumour wrote:

Speaking to The News, a Royal Navy spokesman said: “We can confirm an internal exercise took place at Royal Naval Air Station Yeovilton in line with established contingency plans for recall of personnel.

“These exercises are conducted on a regular basis and no significance should be drawn from the timing of the exercise.

“While the exercise was conducted properly, we regret any misunderstanding this may have caused.”

Berserker5 · 06-12-2019 1:23am

Is there more to come from bbc

Quantum Erasure · 06-12-2019 1:35am

she's gotten old looking, since she left Black Eyed Peas

ILoveYourVibes · 06-12-2019 2:12am

Berserker5 wrote: »

Is there more to come from bbc

There has been a huge circling of the wagons by the Royals of late.

I think the fact that a woman who tried to sell access to him for money is his last supporter says it all really. Horrible people.

Berserker5 · 06-12-2019 2:22am

In the interview
.The Duke tried to claim that his meetings with Epstein were of some national significance, that he was working for Britain's interest
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Quantum Erasure · 06-12-2019 2:29am

whats with the reposting of the picture though?

Berserker5 · 06-12-2019 2:40am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

whats with the reposting of the picture though?

Ever read a tabloid?

Quantum Erasure · 06-12-2019 3:22am

Berserker5 wrote: »

Ever read a tabloid?

not since the Sun did away with the tits on page 3, and even at that I'd hardly say i read them much...

dd973 · 06-12-2019 3:32am

Don't you mean Prinz Andreas?

Muahahaha · 09-06-2020 6:24pm

Well the US prosecutors arent giving up, they still want to interview him and are now calling him out on his public statements that he would offer all help and co-operation to the Epstein investigation

Prince Andrew has become embroiled in a war of words with US prosecutors investigating the disgraced financier and child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Lawyers for the Duke of York issued a statement on Monday accusing the American investigators of misleading the public and breaching their own confidentiality rules in their handling of the inquiry.

Blackfords, the London-based criminal law specialists, alleged in a strongly worded two-page statement that the US Department of Justice (DoJ) had effectively rejected three offers of help volunteered by the prince this year.

The firm noted that the DoJ had “advised us that the duke is not and has never been a ‘target’ of their criminal investigations into Epstein” and that they had instead sought his confidential, voluntary cooperation.

Geoffrey Berman, the US attorney for the Southern District of New York, responded by publicly accusing Andrew of trying to “falsely portray himself to the public as eager and willing to co-operate” and said a request to schedule an interview had been repeatedly declined.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/08/prince-andrew-lawyers-accuse-us-doj-misleading-public-over-epstein-case

Muahahaha · 09-06-2020 6:30pm

Also quote from the BBC Royal Editor

Speaking this morning, Witchell told BBC Breakfast that Andrew's 'specialist' lawyers would be 'attempting to control the process' by 'limiting the scope' of the US investigation.

'I think we may reasonably assume that the US attorney wants a face to face meeting with Andrew here in the UK, in which he could ask him face to face an unlimited array of questions,' he said. 'Well now, we only have to think back to the Newsnight interview to see what happens when Andrew faces unlimited, untrammelled questions.

'So I think it is reasonable to suppose that his specialist British lawyers are attempting to control the process. They may also be insisting - please send your questions in writing and we will respond.'

Andrew resigned from 'public duties' in the wake of the Newsnight interview last November, in which he denied any wrongdoing but defended his friendship with Epstein as 'seriously beneficial'.

kowloon · 09-06-2020 6:59pm

The US and UK should do a prisoner exchange; Prince Andrew for that cow that claimed diplomatic immunity after running over a kid.

4068ac1elhodqr · 09-06-2020 7:28pm

Their DailyMail are having a field day with this buffon, they'll happily run the story for the extra millions of paper sales.
Must be some major embarrasment for the establishment all the same.

Quantum Erasure · 09-06-2020 7:51pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

she's gotten old looking, since she left Black Eyed Peas

ever want to thank a post, only to discover that you couldn't because it was you who posted it, 6 months ago...

kowloon · 09-06-2020 8:27pm

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

ever want to thank a post, only to discover that you couldn't because it was you who posted it, 6 months ago...

I put one on it for you, but someday I'll ask you for a favour to settle the debt. Refusal will not be an option.

dd973 · 09-06-2020 11:27pm

Look up the Jonathan Pie spoof Maitlis-P.A interview on You Tube, best bit is where he takes a break and talks to the cameraman, won't spoil it, whole episode is hilarious.

Muahahaha · 09-06-2020 11:54pm

Jayde Lazy Heater wrote: »

Their DailyMail are having a field day with this buffon, they'll happily run the story for the extra millions of paper sales.
Must be some major embarrasment for the establishment all the same.

Yeah Id say the Firm are fuming about the whole debacle, especially as Andrew brought all this on himself with that disastrous interview with Emily Maittlis. You'd also wonder is there more to come with whatever was on Epsteins computers and phones, its probable the FBI know a lot more than what is in the public domain.

Its not surprising then that Andrew is running a mile from doing a face to face interview with them, he and his lawyers are thinking they wlll pounce on him mid interview with some damning evidence of him, Epstein and the paedo ring. In an interview he could quickly go from someone just helping their investigation to being a suspect under arrest. Needless to say the US wont be on his list of places to go for the rest of his life.

All that said he is a royal who travels under a diplomatic passport and any attempt to arrest him would cause a diplomatic crisis between the UK and the US. It wont be happening unless some completely damning evidence were to emerge, like a video tape.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 10-06-2020 2:35am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

ever want to thank a post, only to discover that you couldn't because it was you who posted it, 6 months ago...

I lolled, so I did.

AngryHippie · 10-06-2020 3:22am

fryup wrote: »

i wonder does someone somewhere have photos or video footage of all these VIP's and their kinky activities??

Miss Maxwell perhaps? using it as a bargaining chip me wonders:cool:

My thinking is Epstein did, they tore his places apart to find the evidence, got it, destroyed it, then had him "suicided" in his cell.

I doubt she would still be alive or in public if she had copies. Not even the papal guard would keep her alive if they knew she had a copy.
The little black book didn't list any really surprising names, they are fairly well all known to be either perverts or connected through the "modelling" business, but between them, they could rustle up enough cash to get a hit on just about anyone.
That's just the millionaires and billionaires without bringing The Donald into the mix and wondering how far he could stretch a finger of death leaving no trace.

Hamsterchops · 10-06-2020 8:35am

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Jip?

Gyp?

riclad · 11-06-2020 9:57am

I don't think us officials normally interview people or witness, s to certain crimes outside the USA. Since they have no proof he committed a crime they can't force him to give evidence in a trial or to be interviewed. They are going public with the info, eg he has not cooperated
in giving evidence or being interviewed by American officials about epstein
IF he stays out of America he can just avoid the
American legal system.
So now he has no public role or dutys as a member of the Royal family.
It looks bad for him . Eg epstein had 12 of his phone nos, he spent 3 days in epstein house
in New York. He was obviously close friends with epstein its not like he could not afford to stay in a hotel while he was in New york
His charity has closed down recently
I think the interview he did on the BBC was a disaster , it drew more attention to his friendship
with epstein

seamus · 11-06-2020 10:03am

riclad wrote: »

IF he stays out of America he can just avoid the
American legal system.

There are two chances of the UK extraditing the Queen's son.

Even if he needed to go to the US, he would be given whatever diplomatic titles are required to keep the feds away from him.

He will slip away from whatever he did. He'll live out the rest of his life with little media attention, another stain on the Royal family that they conveniently ignore. After he dies the truth will come out.

The only way Andrew will ever face any real consequences or have to face any questions is if the monarchy is dissolved. And that's not happening, not even if Wales, Scotland and NI leave the union.

Muahahaha · 11-06-2020 8:36pm

riclad wrote: »

I don't think us officials normally interview people or witness, s to certain crimes outside the USA. Since they have no proof he committed a crime they can't force him to give evidence in a trial or to be interviewed.

Plot twist, seems there is a legal mechanism for Andrew to be interviewed in the UK and the Americans want to pursue it

In the face of apparent stonewalling, the US Department of Justice (DoJ) is now seeking help from the UK government. It has made a formal request, known as a mutual legal assistance treaty submission, to get access to Andrew. The prince’s advisers have not confirmed this. The request opens up various legal scenarios, all of them potentially hugely embarrassing for the royal family.

There is no prospect of Andrew being flown back to the US in handcuffs. The US attorney general, William Barr, made this clear in a Fox News interview. But Andrew may be compelled to appear as a witness in a UK court. Under the terms of the treaty, officials could interview him on behalf of US prosecutors. Viewed from London, neither option looks especially appealing. Or as one source put it to the Sun: “It’s a diplomatic nightmare.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/bbc-interview-haunts-prince-andrew-as-us-prosecutors-push-to-break-deadlock

Leg End Reject · 11-06-2020 8:50pm

It would have been better PR to throw him to the sharks from the beginning and condemn the behaviour of all involved.

The "nothing to see here" approach may very well backfire.

riclad · 14-06-2020 5:27pm

He no longer has any royal dutys, its possible more detailed evidence will come out as there's more legal cases in America. Its strange he denys meeting a young woman who claims she had sex with him. There's a photo published in many papers showing him standing next to her.
I think this case is past the point of the Royal family being embarrassed. He was friends for a long time with Epstein even after Epstein was a convicted pedophile the friendship continued.
I think what will happen is Andrew will agree to be interviewed by some American official in the UK to put some end to this I think he has no wish to go back to America
for obvious reasons

Muahahaha · 14-06-2020 5:34pm

Not sure he would want to be interviewed for fear he could implicate himself in a crime. Lets not forget he was a regular visitor to Epsteins mansion in New York which by all accounts was a party venue packed with young girls walking around half naked. Of course Andrew says he didnt see them but we all know that to be rubbish.

Stanley 1 · 30-11-2021 2:53pm

Donald Trump · 30-11-2021 2:56pm

Sure didn't Thatcher f$#k all the miners in the 80's?

Neyite · 02-12-2021 11:11am

After Andrew thinking that his BBC interview with Emily Matlis went well, anyone with half a brain in the Palace knows to keep him well away from detectives for as long as possible. The BBC, national Broadcaster, a pet interviewer and a list of pre-prepared, soft questions and still he couldn't help the stupid lies he came out with that dug him in the hole deeper.

Andrew, by all accounts, is an insufferable arrogant royal who genuinely believes because he's a prince he's above the law, above scrutiny and how dare us peasants challenge his word. Half an hour with even a novice interrogator would give them so much information. Probably what's in the public domain is the very tip of the iceberg so could easily bring down the monarchy.

Ash.J.Williams · 02-12-2021 11:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118245154#Comment_118245154

The worlds first eco PM

AckwelFoley · 02-12-2021 11:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/113706753#Comment_113706753

After the yanks very sneekly flew a diplomat out of the country after they killed a person in a hit and run with their car so there could be no "interview" the British won't be too quick to sling the queen's son under the bus...even if he's a chester with creepy features

ohnonotgmail · 02-12-2021 11:33am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255562#Comment_118255562

you replied to a post from 18 months ago. it went nowhere. it was never going anywhere.

AckwelFoley · 02-12-2021 11:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255594#Comment_118255594

Goddammit

Not sure how that thread isnt buried 🤔

Muahahaha · 02-12-2021 1:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118255594#Comment_118255594

The civil case in New York against Andrew is still proceeding though. There is no concrete start date yet but its been speculated it could begin in June which would coincide with the Queens birthday and Platinium Julibee that celebrates her 70 years on the throne. The Royal Family are planning a huge celebration for it with tons of celebrities booked to perform at a concert in her honour at the start of June. There is also gong to be an extra public holiday for everyone in the UK to recognise it and the government are promoting it as a four day celebration "with a once-in-a-generation show that will mix the best of British ceremonial splendour and pageantry with cutting edge artistic and technological displays".

If Andrews case in New York does go ahead in June it will be very awkward for the Royal Family. On the one hand we'll see a massive celebration for her in the UK with him skulking around in the background and then on the other hand we'll see testimony from Virgina Guiffre accusing Andrew of being a paedophile. The timing of it could be an absolute PR disaster for the Royal Family and the problem for them is this four day celebration is on the Queens birthday, they cant move it.

Prince Andrew in jep?

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