Prince Andrew in jep?

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

ever want to thank a post, only to discover that you couldn't because it was you who posted it, 6 months ago...

I put one on it for you, but someday I'll ask you for a favour to settle the debt. Refusal will not be an option.

Jayde Lazy Heater wrote: »

Their DailyMail are having a field day with this buffon, they'll happily run the story for the extra millions of paper sales.
Must be some major embarrasment for the establishment all the same.

Yeah Id say the Firm are fuming about the whole debacle, especially as Andrew brought all this on himself with that disastrous interview with Emily Maittlis. You'd also wonder is there more to come with whatever was on Epsteins computers and phones, its probable the FBI know a lot more than what is in the public domain.

Its not surprising then that Andrew is running a mile from doing a face to face interview with them, he and his lawyers are thinking they wlll pounce on him mid interview with some damning evidence of him, Epstein and the paedo ring. In an interview he could quickly go from someone just helping their investigation to being a suspect under arrest. Needless to say the US wont be on his list of places to go for the rest of his life.

All that said he is a royal who travels under a diplomatic passport and any attempt to arrest him would cause a diplomatic crisis between the UK and the US. It wont be happening unless some completely damning evidence were to emerge, like a video tape.

fryup wrote: »

i wonder does someone somewhere have photos or video footage of all these VIP's and their kinky activities??

Miss Maxwell perhaps? using it as a bargaining chip me wonders:cool:

My thinking is Epstein did, they tore his places apart to find the evidence, got it, destroyed it, then had him "suicided" in his cell.

I doubt she would still be alive or in public if she had copies. Not even the papal guard would keep her alive if they knew she had a copy.
The little black book didn't list any really surprising names, they are fairly well all known to be either perverts or connected through the "modelling" business, but between them, they could rustle up enough cash to get a hit on just about anyone.
That's just the millionaires and billionaires without bringing The Donald into the mix and wondering how far he could stretch a finger of death leaving no trace.

I don't think us officials normally interview people or witness, s to certain crimes outside the USA. Since they have no proof he committed a crime they can't force him to give evidence in a trial or to be interviewed. They are going public with the info, eg he has not cooperated
in giving evidence or being interviewed by American officials about epstein
IF he stays out of America he can just avoid the
American legal system.
So now he has no public role or dutys as a member of the Royal family.
It looks bad for him . Eg epstein had 12 of his phone nos, he spent 3 days in epstein house
in New York. He was obviously close friends with epstein its not like he could not afford to stay in a hotel while he was in New york
His charity has closed down recently
I think the interview he did on the BBC was a disaster , it drew more attention to his friendship
with epstein

riclad wrote: »

I don't think us officials normally interview people or witness, s to certain crimes outside the USA. Since they have no proof he committed a crime they can't force him to give evidence in a trial or to be interviewed.

Plot twist, seems there is a legal mechanism for Andrew to be interviewed in the UK and the Americans want to pursue it

In the face of apparent stonewalling, the US Department of Justice (DoJ) is now seeking help from the UK government. It has made a formal request, known as a mutual legal assistance treaty submission, to get access to Andrew. The prince’s advisers have not confirmed this. The request opens up various legal scenarios, all of them potentially hugely embarrassing for the royal family.

There is no prospect of Andrew being flown back to the US in handcuffs. The US attorney general, William Barr, made this clear in a Fox News interview. But Andrew may be compelled to appear as a witness in a UK court. Under the terms of the treaty, officials could interview him on behalf of US prosecutors. Viewed from London, neither option looks especially appealing. Or as one source put it to the Sun: “It’s a diplomatic nightmare.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/09/bbc-interview-haunts-prince-andrew-as-us-prosecutors-push-to-break-deadlock

He no longer has any royal dutys, its possible more detailed evidence will come out as there's more legal cases in America. Its strange he denys meeting a young woman who claims she had sex with him. There's a photo published in many papers showing him standing next to her.
I think this case is past the point of the Royal family being embarrassed. He was friends for a long time with Epstein even after Epstein was a convicted pedophile the friendship continued.
I think what will happen is Andrew will agree to be interviewed by some American official in the UK to put some end to this I think he has no wish to go back to America
for obvious reasons

After the yanks very sneekly flew a diplomat out of the country after they killed a person in a hit and run with their car so there could be no "interview" the British won't be too quick to sling the queen's son under the bus...even if he's a chester with creepy features

Goddammit

Not sure how that thread isnt buried 🤔

It will show the Royal Family up for the pathetic bunch of overgrown infants they are though. A four day birthday party when one of their members is avoiding proceedings in another country for his connections to pedophilia and human trafficking.

Yeah it would definitely do that if the stars align and the two events are happening simultaneously. Id say a few British celebs will be squeamish about performing at the big concert as well if we are literally hearing evidence of Andrews sweaty dancing with a minor in Tramps nightclub around that time. Not Elton John though, he'll be front and centre serenading Ma'am regardless of what happens.

Virginia will have her day in court regardless and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. At this moment in time Id bet Andrew would pay her any sum of money once she signs a non disclosure agreement as part of the settlement. If he could make it all go away for $20m or $30m Id say he would do it and it would have to be the Queen to fund it becasue he doesnt have that kind of money. They can file it in the accounts as 'PR expenses' to help keep the whole show on the road.

I presume jep means trouble or jeopardy. He's not a US citizen he has no need to go to us court hearing he has been relieved of his royal dutys his TV interview a few years ago was a disaster he looks like an overpriveleged spoiled idiot who was stupid and has no sympathy for ordinary people

It's hard to think he spent so much time in epsteins company without knowing there was something strange going on epstein was rich he had alot of friends in high society he visited the white House 19 times to see Clinton in the last few years with me too movement we have seen many revelations about how rich famous people would take advantage of young women who worked for them

Unless some one can prove he did something illegal he, ll probably get away with it apart from his reputation never being the same as it was before the court case started

For his whole life Andrew has been treated differently in the eyes of the law based on who his mother is.

The age of consent of 16 in the UK is only relevant to "simple" sexual relationships - boyfriend/girlfriend, or something more casual. For sexual offences involving trafficking, prostitution, procurement, exploitation, etc, anyone under 18 is considered to be a "child". So if the Duke had met 17-year-old Giuffre by chance while having a quiet pizza in Woking one evening, as he so often did, and they had begun a consensual relationship which became sexual, I think there would be no (legal) problem. But if she was brought into the UK in order to have sex with the Duke, or to perform other sex acts for or upon him, or if Epstein/Maxwell arranged a sexual encounter with Giuffre for the Duke, or hoped to derive business or other benefits from the relationship themselves, you're looking at trafficking/procurement/etc, and the fact that Giuffre was over 16 at the time would not provide much in the way of a defence.