Formula 1 2019 - General Discussion Thread

mickdw · 13-02-2019 10:33pm

I don't think stroll is as slow as many would like to believe.
This year will certainly tell the tail however I wonder will checo get a raw deal seeing as stroll owns the team.

Frank Bullitt · 13-02-2019 10:49pm

Lewis Hamilton hailed his debut run in the new Mercedes W10 Formula 1 car as a ‘great first date’, as he said it was one of the best starts the team had ever made.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/lewis-hamilton-new-mercedes-w10-test/4337264/

Bollox anyway lads.

AMKC · 13-02-2019 10:53pm

Gintonious wrote: »

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/lewis-hamilton-new-mercedes-w10-test/4337264/

Bollox anyway lads.

Ye its getting boring Lewis and Mercedes winning all the time. Really hope Ferrari and Vettel can step up to them and win this year.

Frank Bullitt · 13-02-2019 11:34pm

God review of the RB, never noticed how small the side pod inlets are.

AMKC · 14-02-2019 12:09am

I have to say the mirrors on the Red Bull are very neat and cool.

Frank Bullitt · 14-02-2019 12:15am

AMKC wrote: »

I have to say the mirrors on the Red Bull are very neat and cool.

Noticed that as well.

RB's main thing this year will be the reliability of that Honda. They gave Renault trouble with their packaging before, so god bless Honda.

mickdw · 14-02-2019 12:25am

Read a piece on force India (or whatever they are called), funds seem to be flowing. Updates coming thick and fast to the car in early races with double their previous simular time. They seem confident that this will translate to performance onto the car pretty quickly and knowing how they have performed in the past, I don't doubt them.
It begs the question. Why can McLaren not pretty quickly build a car to take them to top of midfield at least.

Jordan 199 · 14-02-2019 4:19am

McLaren MCL34 launch today at midday.

El_Duderino 09 · 14-02-2019 8:52am

AMKC wrote: »

Ye its getting boring Lewis and Mercedes winning all the time. Really hope Ferrari and Vettel can step up to them and win this year.

Isn’t that exactly the kind of thing Hamilton would say? Amazing, best ever, feels great.

I’d be surprised if the Mercedes isn’t the best on the grid but I wouldn’t take Hamilton’s word for it after a 100km filming day.

El_Duderino 09 · 14-02-2019 8:59am

mickdw wrote: »

Read a piece on force India (or whatever they are called), funds seem to be flowing. Updates coming thick and fast to the car in early races with double their previous simular time. They seem confident that this will translate to performance onto the car pretty quickly and knowing how they have performed in the past, I don't doubt them.

That’s interesting because that team has always been strapped for cash so they were very selective about their innovation. They won’t be used to having lots of money so time will tell how well they can use it.

skipper_G · 14-02-2019 1:02pm

Mclaren launch is streaming live on youtube

Rossi IRL · 14-02-2019 1:09pm

Looks ok

I'm still not fully gone on the orange/blue/black combo

Think if they changed the blue to black it would suit better.

pjohnson · 14-02-2019 1:12pm

Alfa Romeo promised a radical shape and interesting innovations to their car. Looks like they weren't kidding!

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-02-2019 1:21pm

pjohnson wrote: »

Alfa Romeo promised a radical shape and interesting innovations to their car. Looks like they weren't kidding!

I'm hoping that's not just a testing livery. Didn't like the colour scheme from last year with the white.

Rossi IRL · 14-02-2019 1:23pm

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1096020190226247680?s=19

H3llR4iser · 14-02-2019 1:36pm

Peyton Lively Tiller wrote: »

I'm hoping that's not just a testing livery. Didn't like the colour scheme from last year with the white.

I'm actually hoping it IS a test livery, as it's got bloody Valentine hearts on it

:p:p

Cool_CM · 14-02-2019 2:00pm

Plenty of sponsors this time. As much as I have never been a McLaren fan, I really do hope they can turn their fortunes around.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 14-02-2019 2:14pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

I'm actually hoping it IS a test livery, as it's got bloody Valentine hearts on it :p:p

Didn’t spot the hearts :pac:

muckwarrior · 14-02-2019 2:20pm

Cool_CM wrote: »

Plenty of sponsors this time. As much as I have never been a McLaren fan, I really do hope they can turn their fortunes around.

Still lots of empty space. That applies to a lot of the teams though. Definitely seems like the cars are much more sparse with sponsors than they were a couple of decades ago.

recyclebin · 14-02-2019 2:35pm

Sauber have a strange front wing. I wonder did they spot a loophole in new regs. What's the bets ferrari and Haas have something similar!

PopePalpatine · 14-02-2019 3:03pm

I saw a similar design on the new Merc.

recyclebin · 14-02-2019 3:29pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I saw a similar design on the new Merc.

Have a look at the photos on motorsport.com. The sauber has a big gap between end plates and the wings inside

Jordan 199 · 14-02-2019 3:34pm

^Some of the livery on the Alfa today.

recyclebin · 14-02-2019 4:28pm

chicorytip · 14-02-2019 4:36pm

H3llR4iser wrote:

I'm actually hoping it IS a test livery, as it's got bloody Valentine hearts on it

That's an image of a Cloverleaf. Certain Alfa models of the past were branded with a green cloverleaf to signal a special edition. The one's I can remember were the Alfasud, Guilietta, Sprint, 33 and 75. Last seasons Sauber also carried this logo.

Harcrid · 14-02-2019 4:50pm

Cloverleaf is there, but so too are the hearts!

Frank Bullitt · 14-02-2019 5:40pm

Frank Bullitt · 14-02-2019 5:43pm

recyclebin wrote: »

That front wing...either its like that for the shakedown or this is a very interesting way to go about it.

H3llR4iser · 14-02-2019 5:44pm

chicorytip wrote: »

That's an image of a Cloverleaf. Certain Alfa models of the past were branded with a green cloverleaf to signal a special edition. The one's I can remember were the Alfasud, Guilietta, Sprint, 33 and 75. Last seasons Sauber also carried this logo.

Wrong person to lecture about Alfa Romeo history

In the past there were also "Quadrifoglio Oro" (gold cloverleaf) version to identify top-or-the-line equipped cars.

The hearts are alternated to the Cloverleaves in some triangles. Might be a reference to the Valentine's day shakedown, or to the "Cuore Sportivo" motto of the past. We'll see

Charlie-Bravo · 14-02-2019 5:49pm

Wheels tend to be a huge aero headache and is why the front wings used to have lots of vanes to channel air efficiently to the outside of the wheels. I can't see this wing being a result of development over the winter period. Plus the lack of surface area of the wing planes will undoubtedly have less downforce.

recyclebin · 14-02-2019 7:02pm

Are the filming days on special tyres? Would they get any useful downforce data? Probably not. I'd guess its not the real front wing too.

AMKC · 14-02-2019 9:21pm

The Mclaren looks nice. Really hope they can do better this year but still think they will miss having an experienced driver like Alonso around.

The Alfa certainly looks different but Id say the livery is not there final livery and that front wing is quite unusual.

Jordan 199 · 15-02-2019 4:21am

Close-up of the front wing on the Alfa:

Kimi-Raeikkoenen-Alfa-Romeo-Sauber-C38-Shakedown-Fiorano-2019-fotoshowBig-ce400552-1424495.jpg

Jordan 199 · 15-02-2019 11:48am

Ferrari SF90.

Wanderer78 · 15-02-2019 11:49am

These cars are just works of art

Daxve · 15-02-2019 12:04pm

I see they changed the Mission Winnow to grey/black likely to get around the link to Marlboro and current investigations.

Interesting position of the mirrors but if they lose the bodywork piece they are attached to the mirror is gone as well. EDIT: It’s attached separately to the main bodywork as well hard to see in that picture but the other attachment could still result in a lost mirror just not as likely as I first thought.

recyclebin · 15-02-2019 12:22pm

That Mission Winnow logo was atrocious last year. In black it is only look marginally better. Other than that red and black is a nice look.

AMKC · 15-02-2019 2:05pm

OSI wrote: »

Ferrari have copied the McLaren nose from last year?

Ii does like they copied part of it alright. Its not as ugly at the front do as the Mclaren nose was.

Jordan 199 · 15-02-2019 3:12pm

Some pics of the new Toro Rosso from their filiming day:

Daniil-Kvyat-Toro-Rosso-STR14-Shakedown-Misano-Formel-1-2019-fotoshowBig-2a2c2d84-1424682.jpg

Daniil-Kvyat-Toro-Rosso-STR14-Shakedown-Misano-Formel-1-2019-fotoshowBig-2a2c2d84-1424682.jpg

Daniil-Kvyat-Toro-Rosso-STR14-Shakedown-Misano-Formel-1-2019-fotoshowBig-676ab7f9-1424684.jpg

Looks like the paint is a matte finish.

recyclebin · 15-02-2019 4:40pm

You can actually see the Honda name on their car!

flazio · 15-02-2019 4:44pm

Channel 4 highlights will remain more or less the same. Ben Edwards and David Coulthard in the box with Lee McKenzie in the paddock. Steve Jones remains as anchor and Mark Webber and Eddie Jordan are staying as pundits. Billy Monger also joins the team but I doubt it'll be as Karun Chandoks replacement. No word as to who that is.
https://motorsportbroadcasting.com/2019/02/15/billy-monger-joins-channel-4s-f1-team-as-2019-coverage-details-finalised/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Frank Bullitt · 15-02-2019 5:44pm

So THIS is actually the new Williams.

Wanderer78 · 15-02-2019 5:46pm

flazio wrote:

Channel 4 highlights will remain more or less the same. Ben Edwards and David Coulthard in the box with Lee McKenzie in the paddock. Steve Jones remains as anchor and Mark Webber and Eddie Jordan are staying as pundits. Billy Monger also joins the team but I doubt it'll be as Karun Chandoks replacement. No word as to who that is.

Will they be showing any of the races live?

Charlie-Bravo · 15-02-2019 5:46pm

That is so much better. Williams first failure of the year - their initial presentation. The lighting did nothing for the car!!

lolie · 15-02-2019 5:52pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Will they be showing any of the races live?

The British GP is the only live race on channel 4.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 15-02-2019 5:58pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Will they be showing any of the races live?

Sky have the whole thing wrapped up until the end of 2024.

The British Grand Prix is probably the only race that will escape Sky’s exclusivity in that time

El_Duderino 09 · 15-02-2019 6:11pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Some pics of the new Toro Rosso from their filiming day:

Looks like the paint is a matte finish.

I think lots if not all cars are matte this year. I think it looks cool but apparently red bull found some small aero advantage last year

Anjobe · 15-02-2019 6:17pm

Gintonious wrote: »

So THIS is actually the new Williams.

astrofluff wrote: »

That is so much better. Williams first failure of the year - their initial presentation. The lighting did nothing for the car!!

It looks much less like a toothpaste tube now!

El_Duderino 09 · 15-02-2019 6:22pm

I think it looks good. And it will be distinctive on the grid. Considering they’re one of the few (2?) teams that have a new livery, I think it’s good.

Jordan 199 · 15-02-2019 7:27pm

Some front view pics of the top three teams:

Mercedes:

Mercedes-AMG-F1-W10-F1-Auto-2019-fotoshowBig-bbfb3a90-1424026.jpg

Ferrari:

Red Bull:

I like the triangle shape airbox on the Ferrari.

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