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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #102
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Israel stopped all flights 10th March. All incoming had to quarantine for 2 weeks.
    That was when they had 75 cases ... They now have 4247

    10th March a month too late.


  • #103
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Talisman wrote: »
    Biden is really rubbing Trump's face in it.

    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1244049631886970881

    That would have cost him millions to run on the networks years ago. Now all he needs is a 16yr old with a smart phone.


  • #104
    Jin luk
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Jin luk


    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396


    Belarus will be interesting to keep an eye on.


  • #105
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,267 ✭✭✭threeball


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Im surprised Biden even knows who Trump is at this stage,the man is losing his mind.

    If Biden wins it completely due to this virus. Sanders was the far better candidate and had a better chance of beating Trump.


  • #106
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Biden called stopping flights coming in from China racist lol


  • #107
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    There was some bullsh1t articles recently about 'How Germany flattened the curve', no they didn't. They had bought up all available ventilators since January, now that they have increased numbers they too will be running out of equipment and death rate will increase.
    Ventilators don't increase or decrease the infection rate. When people talk about flattening the curve, they refer to confirmed cases, not deaths.


  • #108
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    threeball wrote: »
    If Biden wins it completely due to this virus. Sanders was the far better candidate and had a better chance of beating Trump.

    Biden is much stronger in areas Sanders is weak like among older voters, black voters and has a major chance of taking alot of conservative leaning independents away from Trump which Sanders wouldn't.

    Biden is walking election vs Sanders in rust belt and would have done same vs Trump with no virus. Clinton struggled in rust belt vs Sanders and that's where she lost election vs Trump by 80,000 votes.


  • #109
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,149 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/AntiCorruptIre/status/1244394779028398081


    Any chance the government could have these crazy people forcibly taken out of circulation at least for the duration of the emergency?

    All good for testing at the airport. Should be done and then stay away from people after for a while.

    Then 5G. Go away you nut.


  • #110
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Simple Simon: "Stopping flights from Italy just wouldn't work"

    Italy didn't account for all the travel related cases, I think it was maybe 30% of all travel related cases


  • #111
    V8 Interceptor
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    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Ventilators don't increase or decrease the infection rate. When people talk about flattening the curve, they refer to confirmed cases, not deaths.

    Which ultimately translates to deaths.


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  • #112
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Italy didn't account for all the travel related cases, I think it was maybe 30% of all travel related cases

    30%? So why didn't he stop flights from Italy?


  • #113
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Which ultimately translates to deaths.

    The curve you refer to is to do with cases. If we had a billion ventilators, we would still have infected cases


  • #114
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    30%? So why didn't he stop flights from Italy?

    Stop flight from italy, they would just travel via London etc... Your not gonna stop people coming in. You would have to do a total travel ban and block off the northern border.
    This would create panic and you would have every Irish person abroad looking to get home and you can't deny them entry.
    And you couldn't quarantine them all. It would have to be self quarantine, but as we wouldn't have any cases back then. Then nobody would take the self quarantine seriously.


  • #115
    [Deleted User]
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    Jin luk wrote: »
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396


    Belarus will be interesting to keep an eye on.

    Lord help them. Belarus lost 25% of its population in WW2 (then part of the USSR) which was one of the worst figures of any place involved in that war. Of course CV19 won’t kill anywhere near that percentage this time, but the country will suffer terribly all the same because of yet another clown in high office (Lukashenko).


  • #116
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    30%? So why didn't he stop flights from Italy?

    I’m getting really concerned looking at what is happening in France. They now using trains to treat patients. Spain and Italy are still rising in death numbers. Now our government are asking people from US to come home. NY is a heavily infected area. Why are we still encouraging flights home now when we are not screening or quarantining people??

    I don’t understand this and no one can explain this. How do we make a voices heard to our government? I’m starting to get concerned about older people I know and the strain this disease is going to put on our health service. It’s not stopping in Italy or Spain and death rates are still rising.

    My thoughts are with anyone who has lost a loved one to this disease :(

    How do we make our voices heard ? Should we contact local TD’s ?


  • #117
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Stop flight from italy, they would just travel via London etc... Your not gonna stop people coming in. You would have to do a total travel ban and block off the northern border.
    This would create panic and you would have every Irish person abroad looking to get home and you can't deny them entry.
    And you couldn't quarantine them all. It would have to be self quarantine, but as we wouldn't have any cases back then. Then nobody would take the self quarantine seriously.

    Other countries did this weeks ago. Even the risk of being quarantined would have deterred people from flying.


  • #118
    eldudebros
    Registered Users Posts: 19 ✭eldudebros


    Why are people so quick to rubbish the effects of 5G? What do we know? Nothing at all really.

    Not one of us would have expected a pandemic like this to occur this time last year.

    Already scientists and doctors have appealed to the EU to reconsider it due to health effects it may cause. Why bother their hole if there wasn't cause for concern.


  • #119
    V8 Interceptor
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    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Stop flight from italy, they would just travel via London etc... Your not gonna stop people coming in. You would have to do a total travel ban and block off the northern border.
    This would create panic and you would have every Irish person abroad looking to get home and you can't deny them entry.
    And you couldn't quarantine them all. It would have to be self quarantine, but as we wouldn't have any cases back then. Then nobody would take the self quarantine seriously.

    You wouldn't get panic with Irish people overseas because obviously you'd repatriate them all when necessary.

    So what was the point in Houlahan tracking everybody who tested positive for the virus and telling us where they got it (initially most of it was in fact from Italy) and isolating everyone that came into contact with them yet at the same time having the airport wide open to Italy and everywhere else?

    And why do you think many other Countries closed their borders?


  • #120
    h2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭h2005


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I’m getting really concerned looking at what is happening in France. They now using trains to treat patients. Spain and Italy are still rising in death numbers. Now our government are asking people from US to come home. NY is a heavily infected area. Why are we still encouraging flights home now when we are not screening or quarantining people??

    I don’t understand this and no one can explain this. How do we make a voices heard to our government? I’m starting to get concerned about older people I know and the strain this disease is going to put on our health service. It’s not stopping in Italy or Spain and death rates are still rising.

    My thoughts are with anyone who has lost a loved one to this disease :(

    How do we make our voices heard ? Should we contact local TD’s ?

    What are you going to say to them? Leave Irish people abroad to fend for themselves? Does this apply to doctors and nurses returning home too?


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  • #121
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    They now using trains to treat patients. Spain and Italy are still rising in death numbers. Now our government are asking people from US to come home. NY is a heavily infected area. Why are we still encouraging flights home now when we are not screening or quarantining people?

    France are using trains to transfer patients to other hospitals, they are not using trains as hospitals.

    Ireland is asking anyone abroad that can help to come home and help. They are advising other Irish people abroad that if they want to come home, to not delay as flights maybe cancelled etc...
    It's not like the government are ordering everyone abroad to come home.

    All returning citizens are being asked to self isolate for 2 weeks. Every tom, dick and Harry know the seriousness of the situation and most, if not all will self isolate. Ya swear everyone arriving home is gonna go out and purposely try to infect as many as they can.


  • #122
    V8 Interceptor
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    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I’m getting really concerned looking at what is happening in France. They now using trains to treat patients. Spain and Italy are still rising in death numbers. Now our government are asking people from US to come home. NY is a heavily infected area. Why are we still encouraging flights home now when we are not screening or quarantining people?? I don’t understand this and no one can explain this. How do we make a voices heard to our government? I’m starting to get concerned about older people I know and the strain this disease is going to put on our health service. It’s not stopping in Italy or Spain and death rates are still rising. My thoughts are with anyone who has lost a loved one to this disease :( How do we make our voices heard ? Should we contact local TD’s ?

    Irish people coming home is one thing. But allowing anyone from practically anywhere on the Planet come in when we're on lockdown is mad Ted.


  • #123
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    No to be alarmist but I am putting this here for anyone with psoriasis who may not see it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    youngest death in Europe 14 year old footballer with psoriasis


  • #124
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »

    And why do you think many other Countries closed their borders?

    Most counties banned external flights initially, to stop them spreading to other countries. You know, the responsible thing to do.


  • #125
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    eldudebros wrote: »
    Why are people so quick to rubbish the effects of 5G? What do we know? Nothing at all really.

    Not one of us would have expected a pandemic like this to occur this time last year.

    Already scientists and doctors have appealed to the EU to reconsider it due to health effects it may cause. Why bother their hole if there wasn't cause for concern.

    Conspiracy thread
    >


  • #126
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    khalessi wrote: »
    No to be alarmist but I am putting this here for anyone with psoriasis who may not see it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    youngest death in Europe 14 year old footballer with psoriasis

    Wonder did their immune system go crazy or something tho psoriasis wouldn't be something I would class as being contributory


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  • #127
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Irish people coming home is one thing. But allowing anyone from practically anywhere on the Planet come in when we're on lockdown is mad Ted.
    Who the **** do you think is flying into Ireland during a lockdown? Some stags party? A flight filled with tourists? Ya swear every ****ing flight landing is filled with people, Jesus, give it a rest


  • #128
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Wonder did their immune system go crazy or something tho psoriasis wouldn't be something I would class as being contributory

    Depends on if he was meds that cause you to be immunosupressed


  • #129
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    khalessi wrote: »
    Depends on if he was meds that cause you to be immunosupressed

    Good point - never thought of that


  • #130
    tikkahunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Who the **** do you think is flying into Ireland during a lockdown? Some stags party? A flight filled with tourists? Ya swear every ****ing flight landing is filled with people, Jesus, give it a rest
    My brother in law works in the airport , it is a ghost town and the flights that do come in are mostly cargo and Irish trying to get home , but that doesnt fit in with his tin foil hat agenda that he comes on here every night to spout. Relentless bollox.


  • #131
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    khalessi wrote: »
    No to be alarmist but I am putting this here for anyone with psoriasis who may not see it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    youngest death in Europe 14 year old footballer with psoriasis

    people aren't going to see that.

    the only reason i saw that is because i'm up at half two drinking cans


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  • #132
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    eldudebros wrote: »
    Why are people so quick to rubbish the effects of 5G? What do we know? Nothing at all really.

    Not one of us would have expected a pandemic like this to occur this time last year.

    Already scientists and doctors have appealed to the EU to reconsider it due to health effects it may cause. Why bother their hole if there wasn't cause for concern.

    If you've slowly increased the speed of your connection through the first 4Gs you should be immune to the effects of 5G.


  • #133
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,594 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    eldudebros wrote: »
    Why are people so quick to rubbish the effects of 5G? What do we know? Nothing at all really.

    Not one of us would have expected a pandemic like this to occur this time last year.

    Already scientists and doctors have appealed to the EU to reconsider it due to health effects it may cause. Why bother their hole if there wasn't cause for concern.
    How many accounts do you have now?


  • #134
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    tikkahunter wrote: »
    My brother in law works in the airport , it is a ghost town and the flights that do come in are mostly cargo and Irish trying to get home , but that doesnt fit in with his tin foil hat agenda that he comes on here every night to spout. Relentless bollox.

    I know, after midnight the conspiracy theories come out, day after day. I should start reading Twitter, I'd end up pulling my hair out, which would be good, cause I can't get it cut!
    No doubt someone will say there's an underground barbers opened somewhere


  • #135
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,509 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    people aren't going to see that.

    the only reason i saw that is because i'm up at half two drinking cans

    It's the going back to regular waking hours that'll kill you before any virus gets a chance. :D


  • #136
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    people aren't going to see that.

    the only reason i saw that is because i'm up at half two drinking cans

    Well I can put it up again tomorrow and I put it long illness psoriasis section too but not everyone with psoriasis goes there not would they think theyre immunosupressed (could medication dependent)


  • #137
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    There is a surreal feel to the days now.


  • #138
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    khalessi wrote: »
    No to be alarmist but I am putting this here for anyone with psoriasis who may not see it

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8164787/14-year-old-boy-Portugals-youngest-coronavirus-victim-Ovar-near-Porto.html

    youngest death in Europe 14 year old footballer with psoriasis

    Big question, was he on meds for psoriasis? As must meds are immunosuppressants


  • #139
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The United States has not reported all it's totals for the day among other countries + it's Sunday

    A lot of countries had a 23 hour day with summertime coming in.


  • #140
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,671 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Anyways else forgetting what day it is - each one just seems to meld into the next


  • #141
    khalessi
    Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭khalessi


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    Big question, was he on meds for psoriasis? As must meds are immunosuppressants

    that is the question the article doesnt answer but the fact they mention it is interesting


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  • #142
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Irish people coming home is one thing. But allowing anyone from practically anywhere on the Planet come in when we're on lockdown is mad Ted.

    In another couple of weeks if we start to get numbers under control then quarantine and testing of all arrivals is probable.

    All governments at the moment are pretty much giving people a window to get home, after that who knows what flight restrictions will follow.


  • #143
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Who the **** do you think is flying into Ireland during a lockdown? Some stags party? A flight filled with tourists? Ya swear every ****ing flight landing is filled with people, Jesus, give it a rest

    Not so much now but they have been up until only two weeks ago which is when the pubs closed.


  • #144
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    France are using trains to transfer patients to other hospitals, they are not using trains as hospitals.

    Ireland is asking anyone abroad that can help to come home and help. They are advising other Irish people abroad that if they want to come home, to not delay as flights maybe cancelled etc...
    It's not like the government are ordering everyone abroad to come home.

    All returning citizens are being asked to self isolate for 2 weeks. Every tom, dick and Harry know the seriousness of the situation and most, if not all will self isolate. Ya swear everyone arriving home is gonna go out and purposely try to infect as many as they can.

    Its not that simple. Self isolation is difficult if you share a house. We already know that many clusters are families where one member returned from abroad.


  • #145
    V8 Interceptor
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    tikkahunter wrote: »
    My brother in law works in the airport , it is a ghost town and the flights that do come in are mostly cargo and Irish trying to get home , but that doesnt fit in with his tin foil hat agenda that he comes on here every night to spout. Relentless bollox.

    The volume of people has only slowed over the last fortnight. That's a fact, nothing tin foil about it.


  • #146
    Keith186
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Keith186


    spookwoman wrote: »
    There is a surreal feel to the days now.

    There's a grand surreal stretch in the evening.


  • #147
    V8 Interceptor
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    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I know, after midnight the conspiracy theories come out, day after day. I should start reading Twitter, I'd end up pulling my hair out, which would be good, cause I can't get it cut!
    No doubt someone will say there's an underground barbers opened somewhere

    Still don't know what I've said is a conspiracy theory! The virus exploded in Europe and our Govt kept the borders wide open. Its actually just a fact fellas.


  • #148
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    No one is holidaying now. It is people returning home.

    It is just people trying to get home. Chat with people in other countries, they are human, they have the same fears. One was telling me he hasn't left his home as he wants to look after his mother who is elderly and doesn't want her to get infected.
    People around the world in general are just concerned for their loved ones.

    Flights are mostly goods now. People are afraid of flying with this virus on the loose. Just remember people in other countries are like us, same concerns, same criticisms, people worried about their jobs but most of all will all their loved ones still be around when this is all over.


  • #149
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,914 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    The volume of people has only slowed over the last fortnight. That's a fact, nothing tin foil about it.

    Slowed.... Have you any figures at all to prove the flights are full, packed to the rafters and now...... Slowed?
    You say, or assume they are full, someone says they are near empty and only Irish citizens on board, you reply with the volume has slowed.
    If they grounded all flights, ya gonna say people be swimming across the Atlantic unchecked


  • #150
    V8 Interceptor
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    easypazz wrote: »
    In another couple of weeks if we start to get numbers under control then quarantine and testing of all arrivals is probable.

    All governments at the moment are pretty much giving people a window to get home, after that who knows what flight restrictions will follow.

    Never were the words 'Horse' and 'bolted' more applicable!


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  • #151
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    spookwoman wrote: »
    There is a surreal feel to the days now.

    Totally....What I can’t get my head around is how absolutely silent it is... at night, and pretty damn quiet during the day. No real traffic, no kids heading to the park, silence. No live sport, no neighbors rowing in the garden, it’s a freaky time to be alive. I quite fancied the chipper tonight, I wasn’t going to risk it for a biscuit, or curry chips for that matter.


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