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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 64,964 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Tisell 915 (from Korea) is a very good quality Explorer 214270 homage for reasonable money

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    banie01 wrote: »
    He has it a while, I would assume AD he travels a lot and spends quite a bit time in ME and SEA.
    Works in petroleum, and I am certain it's not a fake but being a pleb on actual luxury SS Rolex I honestly have no clue

    Answering my own question here ;)
    But sheer stubborn curiosity led me down a rabbit hole of staggering depth!

    Seems it's a known effect, and my poor description probably didn't help express what I actuall meant either.
    https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=179070
    https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost.php?p=2529385&postcount=10

    Another little lesson learned for me, late to the party as usual :pac:
    Found a pic on watchuseek that shows what I was trying to describe ;)

    imageuploadedbytapatalk1407603542-744050-jpg.1591089


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Time wrote: »
    Thanks for the comments so far everyone, think my heart was saying AP RO and my head was saying YM. Partially due to the fact that the servicing costs are absurd on AP, and i think the YM will hold it's better in the long run. But i think if i get the YM i'll always wonder "what if" whereas with the AP i won't think the same about the YM. When i get sick of the BLNR i'll be halfway to the YM if i still want it by then anyway.

    A blurb, but an interesting blurb all the same when it comes to AP.

    https://hypebeast.com/2020/8/audemars-piguet-behind-the-hype-video?amp=1

    I had always thought Genta modelled the AP after old style diving helmets as is the usual story.
    I don't know where this article sourced the info that the watch is modelled after the portholes on the HMS Royal Oak?

    Naming a luxury watch range after a battleship that was sunk at anchor seems a bit mad :eek:
    Although "Royal Oak" does have a bit more gravitas and an aspirational sound than than "Revenge" which was the battleship class name.

    Has anyone else seen the luxury watch clips that CNN are running with @1 minute overviews of famous watch brands?
    On during the ad breaks.
    I've seen Daytona, VC, AP, Chooses and Breitling so far.
    Nice little info snippets to jump off and research from.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64,964 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Any links to those clips?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    unkel wrote: »
    Any links to those clips?

    I am hoping this search, brings you up the same video list as it did for me ;)

    https://www.google.com/search?biw=393&bih=682&tbm=vid&sxsrf=ALeKk00sKgHCWNta4NMRiV7I0VH-xOD07g%3A1596985432753&ei=WBAwX93KLcyL1fAPw5qBuAc&q=cnn+timeless+watches&oq=cnn+timeless+watches&gs_lcp=Cg9tb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXNlcnAQAzICCABQAFgAYIXdAWgAcAB4AIABRIgBRJIBATGYAQCqARltb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwLW1vZGVzwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-serp

    The CNN/MSN timeless ones are what you want, think they are hosting directly so no YT playlist.
    There are loads more than I've seen there too :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I found those CNN/Time & tide videos on YT.
    Hopefully an embedded example below?

    Would these be worth creating a thread for?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    banie01 wrote: »
    I found those CNN/Time & tide videos on YT.
    Hopefully an embedded example below?

    Would these be worth creating a thread for?

    If they're all as short as that one I'd say no.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    If they're all as short as that one I'd say no.

    Fair enough :)
    Yep, they are all in and about the 1 minute mark.
    Basically a dollop of marketing dressed as a brand/model history.

    I've been trying to find a playlist of all the short videos since my reply to Unkel but still no joy on that.
    May pull one together during the week and share that rather than video after video.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Plus just going on that vid full of omissions and inaccuracies and like noted more about advertising. For a start Rolex subs did not inflate in value every year since their release back in the 50's. That's a nonsense. That really only kicked off in the 90's with the coming of the interwebs and watch collecting going from a very niche hobby to a much more populist one. Even then it's only really come to be true in the last fifteen maybe twenty years and really hit over the last ten. Hell, I remember a time when you couldn't give away vintage Daytonas. And a time when early Rolex Oysters and Bubblebacks were more valuable than any of their SS sport models.

    He also suggests that the rotating bezeled, black dialed, luminous indexed dive watch was a Rolex invention and it certainly was not. Though a notion that has gained much support particularly among Rolex fans many of whom seem to think the company invented everything and the company is happy to not say anything in contradiction. They didn't. First waterproof watch? Nope. First automatic? Nope. First rotating bezel? Nope. First screwdown crown? Nope. First date window? Nope. First GMT? Nope, First dive watch? Nope. Indeed about the only thing I can think of that Rolex did come up with first was adding a day window to the date window and the helium release valve. Though that was in partnership with Doxa. Oh and the first wristwatch sent for chronometer testing way back at the start.

    The big problem with most watch journalism and dealers and talking heads is a very incestuous relationship with the Swiss industry, fostered for many decades, so you tend to only ever get an advertising puff piece fronted by people happy to pass it on un critiqued.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,684 ✭✭✭david


    Anyone know what the current lead time is for Royal Mail 1st class packages?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭micks_address


    david wrote: »
    Anyone know what the current lead time is for Royal Mail 1st class packages?

    I've had stuff delivered from the UK in few days. Last was posted on a Friday and arrived Monday


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Same experience as Mick myself. Postal speed has really ramped up in the last few weeks, for most places in the EU anyway. France is still dog slow I found.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,478 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Same experience as Mick myself. Postal speed has really ramped up in the last few weeks, for most places in the EU anyway. France is still dog slow I found.

    I had a package posted Saturday from the US by USPS and tracking says it arrived in Ireland yesterday. I've had no delays from anywhere really. I don't tend to order from China as my experience has always been 2 or 3 months. Had stuff from Belgium few weeks ago and it took about a week to arrive


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I had a package posted Saturday from the US by USPS and tracking says it arrived in Ireland yesterday. I've had no delays from anywhere really. I don't tend to order from China as my experience has always been 2 or 3 months. Had stuff from Belgium few weeks ago and it took about a week to arrive

    I have a package inbound from the US that last had a scan on the 1/8 :( hasn't moved at all since that I can see.

    From the UK, I'm finding post from the cities is fine but I've had some bits from North Yorkshire that took over a week to leave the UK.

    Post speed does seem to be normalising though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭hitemfrank


    Just to make you feel worse banie, I've something scanned in the US on the 21st and no movement since.


    It could be lost or it could just be really slow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    hitemfrank wrote: »
    Just to make you feel worse banie, I've something scanned in the US on the 21st and no movement since.


    It could be lost or it could just be really slow.

    It's part of the knock on effect of what's going on with USPS at the moment, combined with much reduced TA postal capacity at the moment I'd say.

    East coast out to here seems fine, but the internal transit times have been rough for a while.
    If posted to CA a few times over the last few months and it NY in 3 days each time but 1 of the items took a month to be delivered once it hit the US.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭griffin100


    I ordered from Creation Watches a couple of weeks ago on a Friday and had the watch the following Friday, it having being shipped using DHL from Singapore via Germany to Carlow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    In luxury watch related news ;)
    Watches of Switzerland's stock price is on a bit of a tear after their results.
    Their CEO is pointing to a bouyant market, plenty of demand and great online engagement as all driving their performance.
    It all pretty much flies in the face of "common sense" and reduced discretionary spend.

    There is some info out of the US too around current interest rates and Dow moving towards new ATH that would if some pundits are to believed and assuming Covid was to fúck off!
    Points to a very V shaped recovery!!!

    I don't see it myself, but its not my field and sure I'm wrong as much as I'm right about anything these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,110 ✭✭✭Thirdfox


    https://www.ft.com/content/66365f4e-839b-4cb4-8c64-dab81ef997f5

    Indeed - spending up in both UK and US.

    Interesting news - seems like people are getring bored of staying at home and those foreign holiday reserves are being turned into other discretionary spending items.

    My wife mused that luxury clothing and makeup sales must be down as those are things you might buy to display to others. Watches would be something you'd buy for yourself though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭893bet


    If you were on lockdown (you spent nothing on entertainment and potentally saved ££££ on childcare) and were working from home on full salary then most people have built up a little nest egg. I know I saved a reltive fortune during lockdown due to having much lower commuting costs and no eating out etc.

    This is being translated I guess into large "one off" discretionary spends i.e. new kitchens, wardrobes, tarmac, big TV's and I assume ....watches!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,539 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Can't argue with the logic really TF and 893.
    I know in my own case here, there's been quite a bit of spending of that type.
    A lot of it funded by holiday refunds and money saved on other things like socialising and "normal" spending.

    My own thinking would lean towards that level of spending being more prevalent on our side of the pond than the US, but then we need to consider that until the $600 enhanced US unemployment benefit expired there was a large cohort of US workers furloughed on a pay rise...
    That money probably paid a big part in driving spending over there.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,446 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Finally bit the bullet and purchased an unworn Hulk (116610LV) from the UK. Hopefully will have it by early next week.

    Time to upgrade the display/storage box :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭893bet


    antodeco wrote: »
    Finally bit the bullet and purchased an unworn Hulk (116610LV) from the UK. Hopefully will have it by early next week.

    Time to upgrade the display/storage box :pac:

    You spoilt child! Haha!

    Assume you went with a dealer if unworn rather than a private sale?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,446 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Yup. Dealer based in Piccadilly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭893bet


    Congrats! It’s a lovely watch! Look forward to the pictures. What else is in the watch box?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 13,446 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Just the original papers that I know of. I'll be happy if they throw in another watch into the box also :D

    I've bought from them before. Normally takes them about 2 weeks to send, but I've lucked out a bit and hopefully get it earlier!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,793 ✭✭✭893bet


    antodeco wrote: »
    Just the original papers that I know of. I'll be happy if they throw in another watch into the box also :D

    I've bought from them before. Normally takes them about 2 weeks to send, but I've lucked out a bit and hopefully get it earlier!
    😆😆😆sorry I meant you own watch box .i.e what’s else is in your collection, if you have one.

    What dealer in London? Pm if you wish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,232 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Something a bit different. Seiko 5 Street Fighter 2 theme watches

    https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/5sports/special/streetfighter/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭njburke


    Mmmh,I am not keen on those video game character seikos.
    I'ld prefer a historical character.
    Mickey Saud is a classic.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Something a bit different. Seiko 5 Street Fighter 2 theme watches

    https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/5sports/special/streetfighter/

    I'm both a Seiko fan and a Street Fighter 2 fan, but those are too garish ... I suspect I'm still not the target market though.


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