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Dash cams, what to get and where to get it (Q&A only)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭rat catcher


    cormie wrote: »
    How is the GPS unit making the difference with comreg out of curiosity?

    quote from letter:
    Customs and Excise officers suspected that the apparatus in question was not compliant with the R&TTE Regulations and for this reason it was transferred to the custody of ComReg.
    Officers from ComReg have examined the item, have determined that it does not comply with the requirements of the R&TTE regs and does not bear the `CE` mark :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    Hi, just a word of warning to anyone buying dash cams with gps tracker. I ordered a unit from Aliexpress
    http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/263229466.htmlYOU HAVE BEEN WARNED :(

    There is nothing wrong with this unit. Someone just never stamped it with the CE mark. It's not a Comreg concern, ie it's not a radio or transiting device that one might have needed a license for.

    It is a customs issue and they can refuse entry on the grounds that it is not stamped CE, the concern is that the appropriate taxes would not have been paid for an export item, which an EC marked device outside Europe is.

    Have a look at ChinaVasion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭rat catcher


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with this unit. Someone just never stamped it with the CE mark. It's not a Comreg concern, ie it's not a radio or transiting device that one might have needed a license for.

    It is a customs issue and they can refuse entry on the grounds that it is not stamped CE, the concern is that the appropriate taxes would not have been paid for an export item, which an EC marked device outside Europe is.

    Have a look at ChinaVasion.

    Well sadly it is ComReg who now have the item and it is their findings that stop me from getting it. Normally any outstanding duty I owe on an item from outside the eu is collected at time of delivery. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    this is another reason to use parcel motel to get stuff delivered to the north and have them smuggle it into the country for you! :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I'm ditching my Roadhawk, just ordered one of these moments ago:



    Quality looks fantastic and is nice and compact too. Ordered from the link in the video description.

    So you mind me asking how long it took to be delivered?
    I ordered on the 19th September, dispatched on the 26th but still no delivery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    kceire wrote: »
    So you mind me asking how long it took to be delivered?
    I ordered on the 19th September, dispatched on the 26th but still no delivery!

    If it's any help - I ordered stuff from China last month, dispatched on the 24th and arrived today.

    Who was the seller?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    If it's any help - I ordered stuff from China last month, dispatched on the 24th and arrived today.

    Who was the seller?

    Yeah I ordered some cables for my möbius from the eBay seller and it took 6 weeks too so maybe there's a slow down internationally or something.

    I ordered from easy gardener in New Zealand.
    http://www.easygardener.co.nz/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=119


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭dnme


    It strikes me, that a requirements list might be a useful thing. If nothing else, it might act as a reference for what's available, whats not, whats desirable etc. Here's what I'd like in a dash cam system. Note I include a rear view cam as a must. The amount of crap that I see in my rear view mirror all the time, aggressive tailgating, drivers behind me on the phone, women doing their makeup etc. I spend a lot of time letting them pass me, I always wish I had a cam looking out there.

    • Good image quality, able to read number plates
    • Reasonable file sizes, perhaps hardware compression built in
    • Front and Rear cameras
    • Unattended mode, once Installed I just leave it
    • Ability to keep recording after ignition off (for a user definable period of time, whether it uses it's own battery that gets charged once car is running, or uses car battery). Particularly useful to record video and audio while my car is in a car park, or being worked on at the garage.
    • GPS Tracking
    • Good quality Audio recording
    • G-Sensor, ability to protect footage if a g-sensor impact detected. Say for a user defined period prior to and after the trigger.
    • Small and discreet, easily fits behind an average rear view mirror. I do not want to be taking it with me when I leave the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    kceire wrote: »
    I ordered on the 19th September, dispatched on the 26th but still no delivery!

    You still have another week to go before worrying. And add in the customs clamp down, it could be yet another week [ie seven weeks instead of six].

    I would pop off an email to alert dispatch that the item has not arrived yet, just in case.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    You still have another week to go before worrying. And add in the customs clamp down, it could be yet another week [ie seven weeks instead of six].

    I would pop off an email to alert dispatch that the item has not arrived yet, just in case.

    I have been in touch with them for the last 2 weeks as they said it should only 10 days and 14 days max!
    They just said that they have no way of tracking the order, so i told them to sort it within 48 hours or i will initiate a charge back from my credit card company.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭aristotle25


    kceire wrote: »
    So you mind me asking how long it took to be delivered?
    I ordered on the 19th September, dispatched on the 26th but still no delivery!

    I ordered one of those webcams from a crowd in china on ebay. Ordered on 9th September and due to be delivered today.

    It was also stopped in customs for a while and I have to pay 23% vat when the postman delivers it as well as a €6 'An Post' delivery charge.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭rovoagho


    Anyone know if it's possible to hold/lock a vid on the Mobius? I've seen the functionality in other reviews, but I can't find a reference to it in the Mobius instructions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    It was also stopped in customs for a while and I have to pay 23% vat when the postman delivers it as well as a €6 'An Post' delivery charge.

    Story: Son's package stopped recently and he had to pay, been importing for years. Collecting a package for me he was chatting to the postie who told him this story.

    "I'm delivering this for customs, not An Post, hence the An Post charge, all the money you gave me went into an envelope and back to customs, no An Post. I'm out of pocket for the change I gave you, I cannot get it back, anything you give me goes to customs."

    So, that clears up some confusion I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    rovoagho wrote: »
    Anyone know if it's possible to hold/lock a vid on the Mobius? I've seen the functionality in other reviews, but I can't find a reference to it in the Mobius instructions.
    if you press the mode button whilst it's recording it will lock the current file, but you take the risk that it may have already started recording to a new file between the time when whatever happened occurred and when you press the mode button. obviously you can reduce the chances of this happening by using the maximum recording length.

    i chose to just use a massive (64gb card) so i don't need to worry about it too much, with several hours of video recorded before it runs out of space and starts overwriting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    Bearing in mind the improvements/price reductions since DVR's became popular, what are the best value/most recommended ones and from what suppliers.
    Alibaba (single/bulk items) / DealeXtreme seem to be the main source for value :confused:

    http://www.alibaba.com/products/car_dvr/
    Y.html?tracelog=imageview_9708

    http://dx.com/c/car-accessories-799/car-alarm-security-709/car-dvrs-735


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭dantastic


    I'm ditching my Roadhawk, just ordered one of these moments ago:



    Quality looks fantastic and is nice and compact too. Ordered from the link in the video description.

    Did you get this one yet? How are you finding it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭BigEejit


    It on Amazon.co.uk. Some company has it being fulfilled by amazon which as far as I know means it must come from some amazon fulfillment centre in the UK. 68 sterling (no pound key on my keyboard :P)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    BigEejit wrote: »
    It on Amazon.co.uk. Some company has it being fulfilled by amazon which as far as I know means it must come from some amazon fulfillment centre in the UK. 68 sterling (no pound key on my keyboard :P)


    Suppose Amazon UK a bit safer than Guangdong Doll company selling DVR 'carcamra' (sic :rolleyes: )

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_3?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dvr%20car%20camera&sprefix=dvr%2Caps%2C709

    Any user recommendations ??

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Display-Camera-forward-recorder-S3000A/dp/B00ACHMVP8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1384733883&sr=8-3&keywords=dvr+car+camera


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭aristotle25


    dantastic wrote: »
    Did you get this one yet? How are you finding it?

    I got one of these any have been using it for around 4 weeks now.

    Positives:
    - small and discreet
    - video quality is very good
    - easy to use (turns itself on and off automatically so don't have to do anything)
    - fairly cheap to buy
    - Depending on the model you buy it will have 8GB internal memory (good for about 1 hours worth of recording and also GPS). You can but an additional storage card to plug into it I believe.
    - easy enough to just detach from the windscreen holder if you want to take it out of the car

    Negatives:
    - power cable is around 3m in length so depending on where you are routing it around the car to the power socket that may be too short. May need to buy a loner one.
    - It occasionally turns itself off for no apparent reason (maybe once a week) so you have to turn it back on manually.
    - There is a blinking LED light on the display that catches your eye while driving so I plan to cover that over with tape or something.
    - On at least one occasion it took a few minutes into the drive to start recording video, even though it was on and looked to be working fine.

    Overall a good purchase so far but I get the feeling that it is a cheapish piece of kit which isn't going to last for years and years. This is fairly typical of the cheaper stuff that I sometimes buy from China so you get what you pay for.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    dantastic wrote: »
    Did you get this one yet? How are you finding it?

    Do no buy from the company in NZ. They post with standard postal and have no proof it was even sent. I have been fighting with them for a refund for a camera I bought on the 19th September!

    The company is called off the net and are endorsed by techmoan on YouTube but I assume he got his ok. Buy from an eBay seller or amazon, easy to claim back if trouble starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,407 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Ordered the same camera as Voodoomelon, but was wondering is there an alternative method of wiring this, rather than into the cigarette/power outlet.
    Mine is always on and I don't want to go to the bother of plugging it in and out all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    Micksgarage are selling the 0801 now (the one voodoo melon has mentioned from tech moan). I haven't checked if its cheaper or dearer than other retailers, but could be worth paying a little extra for easier return postage / Irish consumer protection etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭Kaiser D


    Hi lads,

    I'm wondering if there any dash cams available that could double as a helmet camera or for somewhere on the bike.

    Tried googling but got no real results.

    thanks


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Micksgarage are selling the 0801 now (the one voodoo melon has mentioned from tech moan). I haven't checked if its cheaper or dearer than other retailers, but could be worth paying a little extra for easier return postage / Irish consumer protection etc.

    They are €99.99 with mocks garage.
    They are €84 delivered from eBay with the GPS chip.

    For the sake of €15, I'd buy local from mocks garage, the GPS chip wouldn't interest me tbh and at least you get official warranty with MG when buying from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭Wickerman1


    dantastic wrote: »
    Did you get this one yet? How are you finding it?

    I ordered one last Sunday evening from Amazon uk. Delivered Wednesday via Parcel Motel, also ordered a Sandisk 32Gb card from MemoryC to go with it.
    Very happy with it so far, excellent video quality.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭brokenarms


    Kaiser D wrote: »
    Hi lads,

    I'm wondering if there any dash cams available that could double as a helmet camera or for somewhere on the bike.

    Tried googling but got no real results.

    thanks

    GoPro Your only man for bikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Capri


    kceire wrote: »
    They are €99.99 with mocks garage.
    They are €84 delivered from eBay with the GPS chip.

    For the sake of €15, I'd buy local from mocks garage, the GPS chip wouldn't interest me tbh and at least you get official warranty with MG when buying from them.

    0801 €129 now on MG ! http://www.micksgarage.com/proddetails.aspx?pid=3419412

    Amazon £65 - €78 http://www.amazon.co.uk/E-PRANCE-Original-Ambarella-Recorder-Resolution/dp/B00F4WLIKK/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1385194204&sr=8-11&keywords=0801+car+dvr

    DealeXtreme http://dx.com/s/dvr%2bcamera?PriceIntvl=2-91&Sort=AddDate

    What's the best one that has front + rear cameras


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,783 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Capri wrote: »

    That's including a 32gb memory card.
    Here it is for €99 - http://www.micksgarage.com/proddetails.aspx?pid=3419409

    In my opinion, don't buy one from deal extreme, I'm a big fan of DX and buy from them all the time, but for a dash cam, you want something robust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Bebo stunnah


    Anyone looking at buying from Micksgarage, iloveshopping.ie are doing a 10% discount when ya use the code: MGILS10.

    Applies to everything, apparently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ordered the same camera as Voodoomelon, but was wondering is there an alternative method of wiring this, rather than into the cigarette/power outlet.
    Mine is always on and I don't want to go to the bother of plugging it in and out all the time.

    Ideally you should wire this to something activated by ignition. Using you cigarette lighter adaptor for this long term isnt just silly and i can see most who do that ditch them or not use them due to hastle of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    brokenarms wrote: »
    GoPro Your only man for bikes.
    or a mobius for less than 1/6 the price (inc. a memory card, bike mount and weatherproof case) and almost good with 60fps@720p or 30fps@1080p.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,660 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    kceire wrote: »
    So you mind me asking how long it took to be delivered?
    I ordered on the 19th September, dispatched on the 26th but still no delivery!

    I ordered mine in the end of October, 5.5 weeks later and nothing. Opened a dispute days before Paypal cover ended and got my money back, apparently the seller had some kind of customs problem at his end in China.

    Ordered the most recent one from a UK seller last week, arrived today. :)
    It has 8GB built in and also has the GPS tracker built in.

    Will installed this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭aido76


    I ordered mine in the end of October, 5.5 weeks later and nothing. Opened a dispute days before Paypal cover ended and got my money back, apparently the seller had some kind of customs problem at his end in China.

    Ordered the most recent one from a UK seller last week, arrived today. :)
    It has 8GB built in and also has the GPS tracker built in.

    Will installed this week.

    How much did you pay for it and have you a link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,660 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Sure, this is the one:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231095414302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    Paid that bit more for peace of mind, it's a UK seller with 1 year warranty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Sure, this is the one:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231095414302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

    Paid that bit more for peace of mind, it's a UK seller with 1 year warranty.
    They're saying that the listing has ended. Boo. That's a good camera. Micksgarage have one without gps.
    Are customs likely to sting me if i get one from the uk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    shedweller wrote: »
    They're saying that the listing has ended. Boo. That's a good camera. Micksgarage have one without gps.
    Are customs likely to sting me if i get one from the uk?
    customs can't touch you for anything posted from the EU, so UK and almost anywhere mainland Europe grand.

    Watch out for Jersey etc. though, they aren't officially included in that so customs can get you if it's from the channel islands (7dayshop springs to mind).

    For anything coming from outside odd the eu such as China, sign up for parcel motel and get it delivered to their NO address. €3.50 for a stay in parcel motel is a lot cheaper than any customs payments. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,838 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Hey folks, haven't posted here in a while. I currently own a few iTronics ITB 100 HD cameras, they were the best at the time I purchased them and I did a good bit of research into which to go for at the time.

    Seems there's been a lot released since and prices have come down for what is probably the same or better cameras than the iTronics?

    I'm just wondering, are there any high quality ones out there that also have a battery source attached so it can stay recording even after the ignition has been switched off without affecting the vehicle battery? Would be handy as a security device over night say or even just when you might be popping into a shop if there's any dodgy folk around :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    cormie wrote: »
    Hey folks, haven't posted here in a while. I currently own a few iTronics ITB 100 HD cameras, they were the best at the time I purchased them and I did a good bit of research into which to go for at the time.

    Seems there's been a lot released since and prices have come down for what is probably the same or better cameras than the iTronics?

    I'm just wondering, are there any high quality ones out there that also have a battery source attached so it can stay recording even after the ignition has been switched off without affecting the vehicle battery? Would be handy as a security device over night say or even just when you might be popping into a shop if there's any dodgy folk around :)

    no chance getting one of these with that sort of battery life. Its just not plausible in that scale device. You would have to hook it up the a second battery in the vehicle. that would be best advice but a hell of alot of work. Some of these may work for 20 minutes on battery while in shop but outside that not a hope. It takes alot of power to take video. Consider the battery drain on your average phone when taking video images. These units are not as sophisticated as a phone.

    For overnight your best option is to have a cam mounted on your residence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,838 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    Thanks for the reply. I thought I remembered seeing one with a battery on it. I guess even 30 minutes recording would be a nice addition. The reason I ask is because I've gone the route of an aux battery and it's proved to be a right pain: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056821273


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    cormie wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply. I thought I remembered seeing one with a battery on it. I guess even 30 minutes recording would be a nice addition. The reason I ask is because I've gone the route of an aux battery and it's proved to be a right pain: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056821273

    I see your woes over there. replied in that thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    if you can find one with motion detection that only records when it sees something, you might get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    vibe666 wrote: »
    if you can find one with motion detection that only records when it sees something, you might get away with it.

    Motion detection still requires power, wouldnt last very long tbh needs its own supply. (non internal to the unit) this would be too small


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,660 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    Well got mine rigged up to ignition this evening. Powered from the auto-dim mirror like my previous Roadhawk.

    Problem with this one is that you can't wire it direct to 12V, it needs the voltage stepdown circuit built into the large cigarette lighter connector to bring the voltage down to 5V for the camera to work.

    Don't do what I did previously and wire it straight to 12V as it goes pop, strangely enough. :/

    I took the cigarette adapter apart and removed the small circuit board. I chopped the USB cable down to about 30cm, it comes with a super long cable, a good few metres long. I then soldered two new wires to the board where the + and - 5V connections used to be and also soldered in a new fuse holder. These power cables then tapped into the rear view mirror power.

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    The 12V to 5V circuit, sealed in new heatshrink:
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    I have the camera directly in front of the mirror. It's almost like it's made to fit there. The LCD is completely covered by the mirror which some people might find strange, but the LCD is of no use whilst driving.

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    WP_20131128_0056_zps307dc816.jpg

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    It's not visible from the driver's seat at all and is barely visible from the passenger side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Tasty job there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,106 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Beautiful Job Voodoo.

    I would however consider some 'shaped tint' for behind your mirror which will disguise the mount even more.

    Alot of vehicles (mine included) have a black dotted tint behind the mirror to protect from sunglare. But also hand for disguising such items .

    The camera would just stick out below this.


    Love the work man!


  • Registered Users Posts: 211 ✭✭Woodpecker1


    This is on Amazons black Friday sale tonight.

    Might be worth looking at.

    http://road.cc/content/review/94595-chilli-technology-mini-cam-pro-hd-720p-sports-action-camera?page=46


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Aestivalis


    Not sure how I feel about the size of the smartcam 2 HD. Its pretty huge tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,838 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    What's the latest and greatest dash cam out these days folks? I have the iTronics ITB100HD which I believe is still up there amongst the best, unless something new and wonderful at a much cheaper price has come along? I'm thinking of replacing another older cam with something a bit newer with all the best features, gps location, shock recording (while parked too), 1080 recording, small, discreet and of high quality.

    Any recommendations appreciated :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Aestivalis


    Hmm this is weird. I was reviewing all the files from todays driving on my smartcam 2 HD.
    And the out of all 20 or so files, theres 1 in particular that seems corrupted. I cant seek or fastforward it, I cant open it in a video editor (sony vegas) and it cuts off after only 4 minutes or so even though its supposed to be a 15 minute video.

    Maybe I accidentaly knocked out the power to it? None of the other files have this problem.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 39 freddyboiii


    I've had a search but any threads seem to be old and (I assume) outdated.

    Can anyone recommend a good dash cam for less than €50. I know at this price I won't be getting super clear hd or the top of the range models but unfortunately it is the most I can spend. I don't need a perfect one just one that will be as reliable as possible with the best available picture quality for the price range.

    Thanks


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