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huey1975 · 14-12-2014 11:20pm

Any quotes for bullocks for next week?

restive · 14-12-2014 11:22pm

€3.90 in Kepak

primary 2 · 14-12-2014 11:32pm

restive wrote: »

€3.90 in Kepak

is that over or underage? and also is that up on last weeks price?

restive · 14-12-2014 11:52pm

Underage. I do not know about last week, but i got 3.85 two weeks ago.

Charlie Charolais · 15-12-2014 12:39pm

I said wrote: »

Goodman group announces beef deal with Japan
http://www.agriland.ie/news/goodman-group-announces-beef-deal-japan/

Larry will be looking for cheap cattle

any stock leaving the country is a good thing, it will help the lower the supply balance

just do it · 15-12-2014 10:19pm

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

any stock leaving the country is a good thing, it will help the lower the supply balance

It's meat leaving our shores not stock. Still no new genuine competitor buying stock

Cavanjack · 22-12-2014 8:02am

Any killing going on this week or next? Any movement on prices?

Willfarman · 22-12-2014 8:08am

3.90 for a few bullocks today.

simx · 22-12-2014 10:34am

3.35 O&P cows 3.55 rs tomorrow

dryan · 22-12-2014 10:35am

moved a few overage bullocks this morning.
Rs - 3:95
Us - 4:00

Midlands.

Farmer Pudsey · 22-12-2014 11:19am

dryan wrote: »

moved a few overage bullocks this morning.
Rs - 3:95
Us - 4:00

Midlands.

over 30 months or 36 months?

dryan · 22-12-2014 12:02pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

over 30 months or 36 months?

Cattle over 30 Months are still being classified as overage. There is nothing in the pipeline yet to change this to 36 months.

Farmer Pudsey · 22-12-2014 12:39pm

dryan wrote: »

Cattle over 30 Months are still being classified as overage. There is nothing in the pipeline yet to change this to 36 months.

At present Factory's are quoting the same base for under and over 30 months. However are quoting lower for over 36 months. On over 30 months you lose QA.

3.95 and 4 flat for R's and U's unless you had a issue with very heavy weights would be an average price and poorish if a lot of R+'s and U=/+'s.

dryan · 22-12-2014 1:21pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

At present Factory's are quoting the same base for under and over 30 months. However are quoting lower for over 36 months. On over 30 months you lose QA.

3.95 and 4 flat for R's and U's unless you had a issue with very heavy weights would be an average price and poorish if a lot of R+'s and U=/+'s.

Ahh right, i see where you are coming from now.
Yeah, half of the batch were over 36 months. the rest over 30.
In general, just large carcass animals that took time to finish.
Got a call from an agent over the weekend to see if i wanted to move them at that price so i took it.

severeoversteer · 22-12-2014 3:14pm

dryan wrote: »

Cattle over 30 Months are still being classified as overage. There is nothing in the pipeline yet to change this to 36 months.

there was always appetite for up to 36 month old cattle but once they go over that they are less keen

its kind of an unofficial age limit in a way that isn't on paper

it is the susceptibility to bse that pins an age of 30 months on beef cattle, the offal on older animals is higher risk

Farmer Pudsey · 22-12-2014 3:26pm

dryan wrote: »

Ahh right, i see where you are coming from now.
Yeah, half of the batch were over 36 months. the rest over 30.
In general, just large carcass animals that took time to finish.
Got a call from an agent over the weekend to see if i wanted to move them at that price so i took it.

If there was over 36 month and heavy carcass's then it was a good price all in considering.

severeoversteer wrote: »

there was always appetite for up to 36 month old cattle but once they go over that they are less keen

its kind of an unofficial age limit in a way that isn't on paper

it is the susceptibility to bse that pins an age of 30 months on beef cattle, the offal on older animals is higher risk

36 months seems to be a limit at present. It was 48 months previously and that is still there but most cut 10c/kg for over 36 month cattle minimum

Cavanjack · 28-12-2014 6:50pm

Anyone know are there going to be any changes to the 12c bonus come the 1st of January. Are they going to pay it on over 30 month cattle?

DMAXMAN · 29-12-2014 12:07am

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know are there going to be any changes to the 12c bonus come the 1st of January. Are they going to pay it on over 30 month cattle?

the chances of it being paid on over 30 month cattle is slim to none. they are talking about giving a qa payment on all qa cattle, but it is to be cost neutral so it will have to be taken from the existing 12c in my opinion

Farmer Pudsey · 29-12-2014 12:50am

Cavanjack wrote: »

Anyone know are there going to be any changes to the 12c bonus come the 1st of January. Are they going to pay it on over 30 month cattle?

Too many cattle being killed at present. Factory's made this deal when it looked like numbers were falling. However with strong kill there will be nothing done at present

topgeas · 29-12-2014 8:15pm

4.05 base from slaney + hereford bonus + qa. i"ve 15 herefords to go. trying to get a another 5 cent. have to go soon getting over fat.

primary 2 · 29-12-2014 9:19pm

topgeas wrote: »

4.05 base from slaney + hereford bonus + qa. i"ve 15 herefords to go. trying to get a another 5 cent. have to go soon getting over fat.

is that base price for all steers?i have some herefords and friesans to go myself shortly but they are overage and heavy cattle,what is the hereford bonus worth?thanks

epfff · 29-12-2014 9:58pm

primary 2 wrote: »

is that base price for all steers?i have some herefords and friesans to go myself shortly but they are overage and heavy cattle,what is the hereford bonus worth?thanks

Its worth nothing on overage
Id say thats heifers
395 is best I can do for under age and 390 for over bullocks today all light stock

topgeas · 29-12-2014 10:09pm

primary 2 wrote: »

is that base price for all steers?i have some herefords and friesans to go myself shortly but they are overage and heavy cattle,what is the hereford bonus worth?thanks

18months heifers. 12 cent hereford bonus

primary 2 · 29-12-2014 11:35pm

epfff wrote: »

Its worth nothing on overage
Id say thats heifers
395 is best I can do for under age and 390 for over bullocks today all light stock

any sign of a price rise on the cards? i thought with the high amount of cattle going through the system at the back end of the year supplies might get a bit tighter but what i am hearing there is still plenty of cattle around

Farmer Pudsey · 30-12-2014 1:25am

epfff wrote: »

Its worth nothing on overage
Id say thats heifers
395 is best I can do for under age and 390 for over bullocks today all light stock

As far as I know they are now paying the HE bonus to 36 months you will not get the QA. I think the same with AA depending in which scheme you go for.

locha · 01-01-2015 11:09pm

4.05 now available for R grade Steers. Had it from 2 agents

primary 2 · 01-01-2015 11:30pm

locha wrote: »

4.05 now available for R grade Steers. Had it from 2 agents

are the numbers starting to tighting a bit? what were you been offered last week?

huey1975 · 01-01-2015 11:40pm

locha wrote: »

4.05 now available for R grade Steers. Had it from 2 agents

Where was that being offered?

severeoversteer · 01-01-2015 11:51pm

have had calls looking for cattle from all agents I deal with

things must be tightening up

the end of January I heard will be tight seemingly

some high prices over 4 euro being mentioned

I think they would want to up the prices fairly quick to convince lads to feed because farmers still remember how bad last spring was for killing cattle

feed rep said he's selling shag all feed so hopefully the ball will be in the finishers hands this spring for a change

primary 2 · 01-01-2015 11:57pm

severeoversteer wrote: »

have had calls looking for cattle from all agents I deal with

things must be tightening up

the end of January I heard will be tight seemingly

some high prices over 4 euro being mentioned

I think they would want to up the prices fairly quick to convince lads to feed because farmers still remember how bad last spring was for killing cattle

feed rep said he's selling shag all feed so hopefully the ball will be in the finishers hands this spring for a change

i know a few lads that had alot of cattle to sell last year mainly bulls and these lads dont have any in fatting this year so i think things will get tight,what do you reckon the base price will be the end of january start of febuary?

severeoversteer · 02-01-2015 12:06am

primary 2 wrote: »

i know a few lads that had alot of cattle to sell last year mainly bulls and these lads dont have any in fatting this year so i think things will get tight,what do you reckon the base price will be the end of january start of febuary?

I gave up predicting prices

I just try and buy and keep cattle as cheap as possible and if theres a margin ill take it

well sure id say 4.10 will be easy got, but its badly wanted

primary 2 · 02-01-2015 12:14am

severeoversteer wrote: »

I gave up predicting prices

I just try and buy and keep cattle as cheap as possible and if theres a margin ill take it

well sure id say 4.10 will be easy got, but its badly wanted

badly needed is right, well i predicted on this thread a few months ago that i thought the base would be 4 05 the first week of january and rise to 4 20 to 4 25 by the end of january hopfully i will be right

cute geoge · 02-01-2015 1:51pm

4.05 base for underage heifers in dunbia
3.95 base for underage heifers in rathkeale
Any prices for cows , have a few o and p cows in good nick as well

simx · 02-01-2015 2:48pm

cute geoge wrote: »

4.05 base for underage heifers in dunbia
3.95 base for underage heifers in rathkeale
Any prices for cows , have a few o and p cows in good nick as well

got 3.35 for o&p cows before xmas, 3.30 is freely available i know anyway

Willfarman · 02-01-2015 7:16pm

cute geoge wrote: »

4.05 base for underage heifers in dunbia
3.95 base for underage heifers in rathkeale
Any prices for cows , have a few o and p cows in good nick as well

Anyone trying a quote in Dunbia be advised they always quote the best and then screw you I the detail. They will charge you for clipping clean cattle and then grade them like Mongolian donkeys.

TUBBY · 02-01-2015 7:36pm

Willfarman wrote: »

Anyone trying a quote in Dunbia be advised they always quote the best and then screw you I the detail. They will charge you for clipping clean cattle and then grade them like Mongolian donkeys.

Sure with the mechanical grader you can't complain will farmer. It means all cattle are graded fairly and no room for manipulation

(my new years resolution was to see the good in people)

Base price · 02-01-2015 7:43pm

Speaking of mechanical graders in factories and out of pure interest - does anyone know who is the certified body that authenticates the calibration??

Farmer Pudsey · 02-01-2015 8:54pm

cute geoge wrote: »

4.05 base for underage heifers in dunbia
3.95 base for underage heifers in rathkeale
Any prices for cows , have a few o and p cows in good nick as well

I be going to Rathkeale even if I had to travel 100 miles farther

whelan2 · 03-01-2015 8:25am

much of a trade for cull cows at the minute?

simx · 03-01-2015 12:43pm

whelan2 wrote: »

much of a trade for cull cows at the minute?

In the mart? Good enough go on them last couple weeks December in Kk anyway

Willfarman · 04-01-2015 9:49pm

4.00 over and under age bullocks slaney meats tomorrow.

primary 2 · 04-01-2015 10:00pm

Willfarman wrote: »

4.00 over and under age bullocks slaney meats tomorrow.

was talking to an agent from slaney this day week the best he could do was 3 95 underage and 3 90 overage,maybe numbers are starting to get tight

Willfarman · 04-01-2015 10:06pm

Definitely tightening up.

Cavanjack · 04-01-2015 10:24pm

Lads (me) might be slow to move cattle for a week or two to see how things fair out. With this extra €3 a head we can really screw them now

blue5000 · 05-01-2015 10:28am

Base price wrote: »

Speaking of mechanical graders in factories and out of pure interest - does anyone know who is the certified body that authenticates the calibration??

The some'body' that hangs around the scales/grader all day with the hard hat on. This body usually gets to tweak it during the morning tea break. Especially noticeable where a few E grade bulls have gone through earlier. In fairness it is a very good question though, I think this one should be forwarded to Dail question time for Enda or (si**le)Simon to answer.

Charlie Charolais · 05-01-2015 2:00pm

primary 2 wrote: »

was talking to an agent from slaney this day week the best he could do was 3 95 underage and 3 90 overage,maybe numbers are starting to get tight

how much is that in US Dollars?, yeeeehaaaa!!!
from borris to boston & nenagh to new york, there's gold in them there steaks!

Willfarman · 05-01-2015 4:56pm

Charlie Charolais wrote: »

how much is that in US Dollars?, yeeeehaaaa!!!
from borris to boston & nenagh to new york, there's gold in them there steaks!

I think that's the fourth time this good news story has been spun by super shiny Simon.

Too little too late.

Crossakiel · 06-01-2015 1:30pm

at last the price is rising!!!!
http://www.agriland.ie/news/new-year-beef-price-breaks-e4kg/

Base price · 06-01-2015 6:42pm

blue5000 wrote: »

The some'body' that hangs around the scales/grader all day with the hard hat on. This body usually gets to tweak it during the morning tea break. Especially noticeable where a few E grade bulls have gone through earlier. In fairness it is a very good question though, I think this one should be forwarded to Dail question time for Enda or (si**le)Simon to answer.

I asked a factory manager a few years ago after we disputed grades. Judging from his reply he misinterpreted the question. He told me that the machine is calibrated every morning by their own staff. When asked what certified body authenticates this calibration and how often - I got a blank stare and he tried to change the topic :eek:
When we returned to his office to discuss the disputed grades he was more than accommodating by upping the price per kg on most of the cattle

I would have assumed that these mechanical graders have to be checked on at least an annual basis to verify their accuracy. Also I assume that there is a working life (hours) for the bulbs that are used.
Having said that I used the word assume - making a ASS of U and ME

davidk1394 · 06-01-2015 7:32pm

Sent bulls to the factory today to grannagh in waterford got €3.90 for a few R grade freisans

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