Are Jay-Z, Beyonce and Rihanna devil worshippers??

Darlughda · 12-02-2010 1:45am

uprising2 wrote: »

I think dabunny is delving into white witch/ nature goddess territory there, which is another form of devil worship, I'm sorry, but I cannot and won't accept anything that takes away from God as good,

Uprising paganism is NOT devil worship. Unfortunately hard core christians and some god believers like yourself persist with this medieval notion.

the_syco · 12-02-2010 2:01am

Dull and Boring wrote: »

devil worshipping.

Only the christain devil is evil. Actually, anything apart from their own god is devil worshipping to christains. Look for the most peacefull happy god, and you'll get these mad christains call them reincarnations of the devil.

uprising2 · 12-02-2010 2:01am

Darlughda wrote: »

Uprising paganism is NOT devil worship. Unfortunately hard core christians and some god believers like yourself persist with this medieval notion.

Listen it try's to take away from God, in some cases worships the created not the Creator. Yes I do believe in God, and I'd advise you to aswell, this witchcraft/eastern/mystery/nature stuff your involved with won't save your soul, Seriously.

uprising2 · 12-02-2010 2:06am

the_syco wrote: »

Only the christain devil is evil.

What about the Muslim one?

Darlughda · 12-02-2010 2:06am

uprising2 wrote: »

Listen it try's to take away from God, in some cases worships the created not the Creator. Yes I do believe in God, and I'd advise you to aswell, this witchcraft/eastern/mystery/nature stuff your involved with won't save your soul, Seriously.

LOL. :pTake your proselytising elsewhere Reverend, not interested in your brimstone and hellfire church. What on earth do you have a clue about what I'm involved in. Seriously, dude you need to get on the last bus for the 17th century!

Brown Bomber · 12-02-2010 2:27am

I don't believe in self-satisfied atheists.

uprising2 · 12-02-2010 2:59am

Darlughda wrote: »

LOL. :pTake your proselytising elsewhere Reverend, not interested in your brimstone and hellfire church. What on earth do you have a clue about what I'm involved in. Seriously, dude you need to get on the last bus for the 17th century!

I'm not a reverend and I don't have a church, I cut out the middleman/liars, I prefer the direct approach.

kryogen · 12-02-2010 4:42am

some seriously odd self righteousness in the last few posts

can i ask you a question uprising?

what do you know about Muslim religion?

oh, and what God do you believe in?

Mahatma coat · 12-02-2010 4:43am

Lads lets get back to discussin the music and the 'Symbology' surroundin it.

the My Gods Better than your God debate is rather infantile and detracts from the points a lot of people here are making.

there are a few Rules I apply

I wont take you Serioulsy if you Wear Short pants in Public
I wont take you seriously if you Spout Religious Drivel

kryogen · 12-02-2010 4:51am

agreed that my God is better then you God debates are the height of stupidity (not far off my belief of organised religion, although to be fair organised religion is genious! wish i had thought of it)

symbology has been used in music for years, this is the latest fad or craze, it will pass and it is clearly working in getting them publicity that they need to make their careers

it is sad that "artists" like Gaga and Rhianna are spoken of as todays devil woshippers leading our youth astray

give me Jimmy Page any day of the week!

Christ, do you remember when music used to mean something?

Darlughda · 12-02-2010 5:06am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Lads lets get back to discussin the music and the 'Symbology' surroundin it.

the My Gods Better than your God debate is rather infantile and detracts from the points a lot of people here are making.

Actually Mahatma that's not your call to tell us what to discuss. The title of the thread asks are these pop stars devil worshippers?

Therefore the issue of whether or not satan/devil exists, or is it just the delusions of the god squad is very relevant here.

I have been fascinated with all this illuminati stuff and symbology for years and I just reckon the satanist claims are bull because of the mad christian sources they come from.

Kyrogen- yeah- it really is sad that this kind of tripe music is considered evil. Its just bland mass marketing media drivel.

rovert · 12-02-2010 6:11am

Lovely racial overtones here

Mahatma coat · 12-02-2010 6:48am

Yeah, True Darliugha, I Get what you are saying, but it does seem to have strayed off course a little into the realms of the Personal Beliefs of a few posters here.

and yeah Back in our day the edginess of the music led the Churches to condemn it as the Work of the Devil leading the Youth astray, and it was done deliberatley to Piss off the 'Establishment' this sh1te isnt tho, its a cynical marketing ploy, theres no depth to the music, You cant search for hidden meaning when theres no overt meaning to the drivel in the firstplace

DeBunny · 12-02-2010 12:31pm

I told my self I wouldn't come back but I can't resist. oh well.

Dull and Boring wrote: »

Oh dear, I believe my poor thread has been insulted in my absence.:(

Allow me to clarify. I asked my initial question with the intention that I would be given replies varied by individual different beliefs and thereby encouraging logical debate. I don't believe I have at any stage resorted to insulting anyone's individual views or illustrating poor logic and debating tools, so if you have a problem with an individual's response don't generalise the thread based on this and in doing so indirectly insulting other people who are posting here.

On a lighter note, I'm glad you and Uprising are enjoying yourselves and hope you'll both continue posting, as both of your opinions, although evidently different, are a valuable contribution to the discussion. Afterall without differeing opinions there would be no debate.:)

My intention was not to insult you or your thread. It is a valid question and I enjoyed the arguments. I hope I cleared up a few things for you.

I became bored when sarcasm and insults where being used (not from you of course) in place of common sense and logic. I don't mind a bit of sarcasm mixed with logic but It usually means my points are more valid when sarcasm alone is used.

The fact is that ever since Elvis, record labels have a needed to have a sense of danger associated with their acts in order to make money. If that means means resorting to dabbling in pseudo satanism than that's what they'll do.

Pop stars have all ready done the sex and drugs thing so now they are, again, following in the footsteps of rock stars and trying satanism. Not to mention distorted guitars etc. It seem to be working. This thread is evidence of that.

It's all a load of symbollix.

Hope you don't feel insulted D&B. Honestly wasn't my intention. I do enjoy being self righteous from time to time.

DeBunny · 12-02-2010 12:55pm

fontanalis wrote: »

David Copperfield must be raging.
Is that not more in line with branches of Hunduism than Buddhism?

Hate to bring this back to personal beliefs (nah I don't really) but I do enjoy repeating my self (<-- see, sarcasm

).

Yes, Hinduism and Buddhism hold this at the core of their beliefs, how ever ''Zen philosophy is the purest form of this belief system. There is no concealment elitism.'' Or anthropomorphized deitys for that matter, which appeals to me.

To clarify, my beliefs are based in science and.......... ah just read some of my other posts if it's not clear.

Any way, Rihanna and her devil symbols. To agree with His hat and His Coat, (presume you're a he) and others, it's a sophisticated marketing ploy.

Emme · 12-02-2010 1:18pm

Actually, there is something weird going on with Rihanna. Remember her song "Umbrella"? It rained ALL that summer the year that song came out. I hope she brings out a song called "Sunglasses" or "Sunblock" or "Sunlounger" this year!

Rihanna + Umbrella Song + HAAAAAAARRRRRPPPP + NWO = crappy wet summers! :mad:

Truthrevolution · 12-02-2010 1:27pm

Emme wrote: »

Actually, there is something weird going on with Rihanna. Remember her song "Umbrella"? It rained ALL that summer the year that song came out. I hope she brings out a song called "Sunglasses" or "Sunblock" or "Sunlounger" this year!

Rihanna + Umbrella Song + HAAAAAAARRRRRPPPP + NWO = crappy wet summers! :mad:

:pac: :pac: :pac: You could be on to something there......

Dull and Boring · 12-02-2010 1:28pm

Emme wrote: »

Actually, there is something weird going on with Rihanna. Remember her song "Umbrella"? It rained ALL that summer the year that song came out. I hope she brings out a song called "Sunglasses" or "Sunblock" or "Sunlounger" this year!

Rihanna + Umbrella Song + HAAAAAAARRRRRPPPP + NWO = crappy wet summers! :mad:

Check this out.......http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_(song)#Coincidence_with_weather

Coincidence perhaps??!!:P Worryingly enough she has a song on her new album called Firebomb!:P

DeBunny · 12-02-2010 1:33pm

Ah here, you're really after stirrin' it now.

Good one though.
Maybe she'll bring out a track called ''Irelands Recovering Economy'' and we'll all be saved. Come on Rihanna do us a favour!

Mahatma coat · 12-02-2010 1:43pm

well we had this in the eighties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHj9vOu2eQ

A Precursor to the tiger????????????
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

DeBunny · 12-02-2010 1:46pm

Also have you heard the CT that's it's possible to predict the weather?

Apparently there's hundred of satellites orbiting the planet sending information to a sophisticated, world wide network of people call ''meteorologists'' who are then able to predict long term weather patterns? Crazy huh?

If I knew my PR and I was responsible for an artist who had a song called ''umbrella'' I'd be getting in touch with those guys.

DeBunny · 12-02-2010 1:55pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

well we had this in the eighties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHj9vOu2eQ

A Precursor to the tiger????????????
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Deadly! Frikin' love christy moore.

Let's send this thread on a tangent and discuss oul Christy!

I met him in a hostel in Clare when I was a kid. He came in and sang me and about eight of my cousins to sleep one night. T'was pretty weird at the time. Didn't have a clue who the feck this weirdo in our bedroom was.
What a legend though.

Dull and Boring · 12-02-2010 1:58pm

DeBunny wrote: »

Deadly! Frikin' love christy moore.

Let's send this thread on a tangent and discuss oul Christy!

I met him in a hostel in Clare when I was a kid. He came in and sang me and about eight of my cousins to sleep one night. T'was pretty weird at the time. Didn't have a clue who the feck this weirdo in our bedroom was.
What a legend though.

Happy to put this thread on a tangent for Christy anytime......:)

Mahatma coat · 12-02-2010 2:14pm

I also met him as a Kid, it was in a pub in Wexford, he had been on 'Pajo& the salty frog ' or whatever that show was called that mornin, I have ta say I were impressed when me da walked over to this 'celebrity' and he knew him:)

anyway these 'Meterologists' and their 'Predictions' are a subject for another thread Climategate *cough*

Anyway back kinda OT, Christy often sang about the Divilll :eek:

Dull and Boring · 12-02-2010 2:23pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

well we had this in the eighties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHj9vOu2eQ

A Precursor to the tiger????????????
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Kinda like the Irish Full Monty isn't it!;)

uprising2 · 12-02-2010 9:12pm

kryogen wrote: »

some seriously odd self righteousness in the last few posts

can i ask you a question uprising?

what do you know about Muslim religion?

oh, and what God do you believe in?

Sorry Mahatma, but I can't ignore it and be seen to hide or dodge.

Answer attached

uprising2 · 12-02-2010 10:32pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

well we had this in the eighties
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApHj9vOu2eQ

A Precursor to the tiger????????????
:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Anyone notice Christy's ballbag at 10secs:P, shocking stuff.

DigiGal · 12-02-2010 10:53pm

uprising2 wrote: »

Good for you!, who buy's your art?

Some guy called Dave bought a painting for 800E the other day not bad for a 1st year art student whos only 19 ay.....

Hope he wasn't into something sinister

Torakx · 13-02-2010 12:35am

Im suprised people insist it is only a promotional stunt that makes them use satanic and illuminatti symbolism.
Are you guys that think so saying that the mind control included in these peoples lyrics and subliminals are purely coincedental in all cases?

Or has nobody looked into any of the links posted in this thread.
Ive been into the media and mind control angle for a while now and the evidence is undenialble that mind control seems to go hand in hand with illuminati and satanic symbolism in movies and music especially.

And im not talking about flashing white lights or ads telling you to buy the latest brand of water lol.
i mean other influences like pedophillia,rape,murder,incest,propaganda etc

I just find it hard to accept that anyone who honestly looks a little into this topic would even think of saying its an innocent ploy to gain popularity.I would say its an extremely devious ploy to corrupt morals to create more chaos to profit and cull.

Dull and Boring · 13-02-2010 1:21am

uprising2 wrote: »

Anyone notice Christy's ballbag at 10secs:P, shocking stuff.

Well Uprising, I didn't notice....however when someone points these things out you have to look....rather disturbing:eek:

This thread has taken a strange turn, hasn't it? Well I guess Christy has that effect on people.

In an attempt to transition back from Christy to Satan, I have a weekend message

The 'Down with this sort of thing' referring to Satanism and the 'Careful Now' is to all the posters to have a good weekend but be careful.Wouldn't want anything happening to ye.

Now that the transition is complete, I'll say, good post Torakx, hope you get some responses from the people who posted the comments you referred to, I'd like to see ye debate more on this point.:)

DigiGal · 13-02-2010 1:23am

uprising2 wrote: »

Anyone notice Christy's ballbag at 10secs:P, shocking stuff.

It also looks alot like he is wearing a certain feminine hygiene product....

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 1:31am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drTJzVUr4fk

Yea torakx good post, and dull and boring stop ogling:eek: that 10sec section and give Christy some privacy, yea the thread has got strange and congratulations on getting 3000+ views, your making waves here;).

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 1:41am

DigiGal wrote: »

It also looks alot like he is wearing a certain feminine hygiene product....

Ahh now fecksake, this is getting worse, and congrats on selling a piece for €800, I saw some fella carrying a painting into freemason hall on molesworth street the other day:eek:.

PGL%20Munster%20Logo.jpg

http://munsterfreemason.com/index.htm
Here's the culchie freemason logo, angel's with hooved feet?, and they claim not to be satanic, their slogan translates "Faithful and Constant"

Is this "dave"?

http://www.irish-freemasons.org/index.html

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 2:14am

Ohh another utube vijea

The fukking prayer to satan at 5:00 is a bit much.

Mahatma coat · 13-02-2010 2:25am

Where would Christys 'Enoch Powell' Dig fall in all this Subliminal/Liminal/UltraLiminal Discussion????????

Darlughda · 13-02-2010 7:17am

[QUOTE=Torakx;64447420]

Ive been into the media and mind control angle for a while now and the evidence is undenialble that mind control seems to go hand in hand with illuminati and satanic symbolism in movies and music especially.

What sources have you learnt about mind control from? The reason I ask that is if they have a heavy religious bias or another agenda-definitions of mind control are subjective.
What a group of god fearing people are susceptible to believing is also very different to another group - atheists for example.

And im not talking about flashing white lights or ads telling you to buy the latest brand of water lol.
i mean other influences like pedophillia,rape,murder,incest,propaganda etc

tbh, you will find all that in the bible and in renaissance art. These are horrible aspects of life, and horror does seem to fascinate people.

I just find it hard to accept that anyone who honestly looks a little into this topic would even think of saying its an innocent ploy to gain popularity.

Innocent and coincidental-no. Utilising people's fascination for horror and the repressed aspect of the psyche yes. But that is not mind control.

I would say its an extremely devious ploy to corrupt morals to create more chaos to profit and cull.

The notion of corrupting morals is again subjective. A christian will have a strict code of what they consider morals. Another person down the street with different life experience may be the embodiment of 'corrupt morals'.

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 11:07am

Darlughda wrote: »

[QUOTE=Torakx;64447420]

What sources have you learnt about mind control from? The reason I ask that is if they have a heavy religious bias or another agenda-definitions of mind control are subjective.
What a group of god fearing people are susceptible to believing is also very different to another group - atheists for example.

tbh, you will find all that in the bible and in renaissance art. These are horrible aspects of life, and horror does seem to fascinate people.

Innocent and coincidental-no. Utilising people's fascination for horror and the repressed aspect of the psyche yes. But that is not mind control.

The notion of corrupting morals is again subjective. A christian will have a strict code of what they consider morals. Another person down the street with different life experience may be the embodiment of 'corrupt morals'.

I think if you look around society in general, you will find morals, respect etc are on a steep downward spiral, while voilent crime, general disrespect for society as a whole, and totally corrupted morals are steeply rising, take a look around you won't have to venture far to find examples, television and it's normalization of abnormal situations is very much to blame.

Mahatma coat · 13-02-2010 12:19pm

nah dude, we're gettin OLDER:eek:

remember rojerramjet, and all the violence on TV when we were kids, but at least we had decent music;)

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 12:39pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

nah dude, we're gettin OLDER:eek:

remember rojerramjet, and all the violence on TV when we were kids, but at least we had decent music;)

Listen that Ramjet kunt is to blame for me thinking the americans were the goodguys, he fukked up my perception of how things are, it was more shocking to discover the truth over that big chin bolllix:mad::mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cywyxqI9CqY

Edit: Notice the sybolism in the start of ramjet, fukking pentagrams flying around his head and chin, pentagrams in his chemtrails.

Darlughda · 13-02-2010 12:49pm

He was my absolute hero!:D

Rojer ramjet fighting for our freedom......

DeBunny · 13-02-2010 3:41pm

Uprising, I watched those two videos you posted and to be honest if it wasn't for some of the paranoid rants I've heard from CTists I'd have thought they were a piss take. I mean, I have black and white checkered tiles, am I the spawn of satan? Who ever made the videos was blatantly looking to find some thing that just wasn't there. ''Ooooh the sun is in her video this means ...... eh........................eh....

If I looked around my house using the skewed logic in these vidoes, I could find evidence for any thing.
''Oh my god, I found some knives! I must be a murderer!''
''Look a chess set! I'm F*cked!''

Things like five pointed stars, architectural columns and checkered tiles reoccur every where and have nothing to do with Satan. I can't believe this needs an explanation

Jack Blacks ''devil prayer is funny because of puritanicals such as your self. The more people are shocked by it the funnier it is. It's the same reason Jack Ass is funny. They wouldn't do it if they didn't get horrified reactions. Bad publicity is good publicity. This thread is evidence of that.

The whole thing is the equivalent to believing the cast and plot of fair city are real, by using the fact you can see it on T.V as evidence.

If you believe in God then you will know that he gave us free will to do as we choose. No one can take that from us. Not even God, never a mind a bunch of Hollywood executives.
To be honest I think your mind is being controlled by these so called ''satanists'' more than any of their impressionable target audience. You're so filled with hate and anger that your blind to the subtleties of ..... well... every thing.

If you want to find a conspiracy you will.
The reason Rihanna uses these symbols in her videos is far more subtle than plain ol' devil worship. It's about shifting patterns in peoples tastes and fashions.

Yes, mass media are trying to control people by using sex and controversial imagery, but not because they want their souls, it's because they want their money. If they have to resort to pseudo satanism as a PR stunt then they'll do it. Again, this thread, and many like it, is evidence that it works.

Wow I just found some curry paste! I must be Hindu!

uprising2 · 13-02-2010 4:08pm

DeBunny wrote: »

Uprising,
You're so filled with hate and anger that your blind to the subtleties of ..... well... every thing.

It's called Indignation, and I admit I am angry at how this world I was born into is run and controlled, how we are percieved subjects to evil men, I never have and never will accept it.

DeBunny · 13-02-2010 4:36pm

uprising2 wrote: »

It's called Indignation, and I admit I am angry at how this world I was born into is run and controlled, how we are percieved subjects to evil men, I never have and never will accept it.

Many great freedom fighters through the ages, from Panco Villa to Malcolm X to Ghandi have all said that we are only slaves if we allow ourselves to be. By filling your self with indignation and anger at those who would be our masters you give them control over you.

I was obsessed whit CTs for a while my self but I had to let it go as it was taking control of my life. When I cleared my head I found I was able to see past all the bullsh*t symbols and rituals of the Masons etc and I could see it's just people doing what people do. It's all about as significant as good film. It's a good story and it's very intriguing but it only has as much power over you as you let it.
Have a listen to Dr Wayne Dyer and Deepak Chopra if you want to know the reall thruth. I would especially recommend Allan Watts.

The anger you feel at the symbols in Rihanna's videos is controlling you more than the symbols are controlling Rihanna's target audience. Free your self of it.

Brown Bomber · 13-02-2010 6:49pm

DeBunny wrote: »

Many great freedom fighters through the ages, from Panco Villa to Malcolm X to Ghandi have all said that we are only slaves if we allow ourselves to be.

They're are all really of the same age

DeBunny wrote: »

By filling your self with indignation and anger at those who would be our masters you give them control over you.

Anger to an injustice against oneself is natural human emotion; anger to an injustice comitted against another is to be admired provided it is channeled correctly.

DeBunny wrote: »

I was obsessed whit CTs for a while my self but I had to let it go as it was taking control of my life. When I cleared my head I found I was able to see past all the bullsh*t symbols and rituals of the Masons etc and I could see it's just people doing what people do.

So apathy is the way forward then?

DeBunny wrote: »

It's all about as significant as good film. It's a good story and it's very intriguing but it only has as much power over you as you let it.

Trauma based mind-control is not a story. satanic ritual abuse is not a story. These are sad facts.

DeBunny wrote: »

Have a listen to Dr Wayne Dyer and Deepak Chopra if you want to know the reall thruth. I would especially recommend Allan Watts.

Your faith in these guru types appears to have little difference to uprisings faith in God. I looked into Allan Watts and it appears he came into Budhhism thorugh Madame Blavatsky. co-founder of the Theosophical society

DeBunny wrote: »

The anger you feel at the symbols in Rihanna's videos is controlling you more than the symbols are controlling Rihanna's target audience. Free your self of it.

I appreciate this is your opinion, but thats all it is, can you even show how these occult influnced productions are more succesful? The fact of the matter is that very few people actually know the real truth and we are not one of them.

Torakx · 13-02-2010 9:30pm

DeBunny i feel you dont give enough credit to the influence these "stars" have on the masses of teens out there looking for a model..especially if it is a nicer one than their parents for example.
On the Rhianna poster(umbrella) that is most likely on ALOT of kids walls has a subliminal on it with the word "sex".
Now this could tell the subconcious that the scene in this poster is related to sex.If however you visibly see it i believe the subliminal will have much less an effect.
Coincedently a good disection of the umbrella video by lennon honor shows that scene where the water is splashing onto her is symbolic of a sexual encounter with the entity Rainman.

For me Rhianna is nothing and jay-Z even less.
He looked like a fool to me when i first seen him on mtv years ago.I didnt understand his popularity.
I am much more interested in the main social guidance system called hollywood.
Check out a movie coming out soon called Kick-Ass(used to be Hit-Girl but i guess that was too close to the truth to get away with).

You asked about my sources for mind control and wether they have a religious bias.
I myself dont believe in God as we popularly know it.When i can prove he exists il let you know

My sources are anywhere i can find more info.i live on it like food hehe.
Lenon Honor is one resource where i ffirst started getting into the media and mind control or occult.
Im more into the mind control part as i like to look into psychology alot also.
I posted a few links earlier aswell to a blog site pseudomediaoccult which has some nice info on the media and occult and mind control.
I am not biased when i look at these things.I just see it plain as day like a slap in the face.
You should have a look into what im talking about if you dare enter the rabbit whole again.

After watching a couple of lenon honor vids i soon learned what he ment by having a second sight or something similar.I really did start seeing things on another level.
Especially with hollywood movies.
Now when i apply this second sight to the originally AND coincedently named Hit-Girl i see under running themes of child pedophillia and other not so nice or "morale" things.Some may believe these things are harmless and a just for profit but i cant see what profit money wise comes from ecouraging kids to touch older men and vise versa for example.
Jay-z and all those are just groupies of the illuminatti and there societies.Rhianna is not anywhere near clever enough to culminate a story and video like umbrella so she is not to blame for sure.Its unfortunate she is mixed up with that crowd.But for every one of rhianna theres millions who follow her i would think in her percieved life path and consider that earlier role model a part of them in a way therefore it might be easier for these teens to turn out like the portrayed Rhianna.
Like Britney and so many more they like to bring them out at the start like a princess all sweet and innocent ussually then they change to a dark sexy slut like figure and this is all part of the CONSPIRACY to steer teens via rolemodels.do people think all those famous stars just decided by themsleves to have a bright happy coloured video career to start and halfway through go nuts or depressed and then start a slutty sexual journey ussually with another male influence guiding them?
I believe also the satanic symbols do have a sub-concious power and this might be why mind control goes hand in hand with satanists use of symbols.
Also i did a bit of home research on NLP and it is amazing how good it works in president speeches,music videos and movies.
Do a bit of study on Anchors,leading and pacing,covert nlp and you will notice they are used purposefully everywhere on TV.This should help to see a bit more with what the true meaning of things are when people give themselves away like obama or someone who does nlp,you will see it then

RGDATA! · 14-02-2010 12:38am

uprising2 wrote: »

Edit: Notice the sybolism in the start of ramjet, fukking pentagrams flying around his head and chin, pentagrams in his chemtrails.

:eek::D

uprising2 · 14-02-2010 5:13am

DeBunny wrote: »

Have a listen to Dr Wayne Dyer and Deepak Chopra if you want to know the reall thruth. I would especially recommend Allan Watts.

Listen these wise men would be of no interest to me, the force does not control me, I don't want to turn their negative into a positive through the eye's of these men, by doing so I would be handing control of my destiny to these mens mind's. I'm ok.

I "have" what "I" need.

Truthrevolution · 14-02-2010 11:01am

De Bunny i have to say i am fascinated by your logic.You seem to think that most of us so called conspiracy theorists are full of anger and hatred.Quite the opposite, most of these guys if you speak to them are really down to earth and relaxed about things and dont seem to take life as seriously as most people.You are correct in some respects that we are shaped by our own destiny but as human beings i think we are destined to fight the evil that now consumes our world.

Truthrevolution · 14-02-2010 11:12am

Torakx, nail on the head there and you obviously done a lot of research into this which is to be welcomed.Your right people under-estimate the power of sub-conscious manipulation.Iv no doubt that the promiscuous, narcotic and gang violence themes in our music over the last 10-15 years is a contributing factor in the way society has shaped our youth today.And if one wants a prime example of how these tactics work, just look at Barack Obamas brainwashing of the masses when running for president.Remember the brainwashing soundbite - come on everybody, lets hear you say it "YES WE CAN".

Truthrevolution · 14-02-2010 11:39am

Ok now this is just taking the biscuit, take a look at this tv commercial people it will take less than 2 minutes of your time.Also all the other corresponding vidoes of McDonalds, Snoop Dog and the mobile ph advert.Its not even funny anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bkO8rivh-s

Are Jay-Z, Beyonce and Rihanna devil worshippers??

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