Timber

recipio · 22-07-2019 4:10pm

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

Hi all,
Living in West limerick/Kerry border. Looking to get into woodwork and need timber. Mostly softwood like pine and maybe a little hardwood such as walnut. Anyone know and good quality and good value suppliers down and around there?

JP Corry in Cahir Co Tipp had a fantastic stock of hardwoods and softwoods but its been a few years since I was there.
The main problem is delivery unless you have the means of transporting it yourself. My next car will be a pickup truck

Calahonda52 · 29-09-2019 1:04pm

will be cutting down an apple tree and someone suggested that the timber might suit some for wood turning.
Two questions:
1: what's the minimum girth: ie circumference. that would be suitable.
2: what's the optimum length for allowing it season, I gather wood turners prefer to season their own before cutting into blanks so, subject to weight issues, what is a good length.
It will be a while before I get it felled, just planning.
Its ex Nenagh, Co Tipp, current home of Liam McCarthy.:D

Guru Maith Agut · 09-10-2019 8:51pm

mayo.mick wrote: »

I got my Cherry and Walnut from Brooks in Sligo.

Hi Mick. Do that Brooks store carry these hardwoods in lengths pre-cut? I was on their website and didn't see any hardwood lumber advertised..

Been looking for a supplier I can rely on for these particular species so this would be great news!

mayo.mick · 09-10-2019 11:20pm

Guru Maith Agut wrote: »

Hi Mick. Do that Brooks store carry these hardwoods in lengths pre-cut? I was on their website and didn't see any hardwood lumber advertised..

Been looking for a supplier I can rely on for these particular species so this would be great news!

You need to call into them. They have no actual inventory of the wood they have. You need to go down to the end of the warehouse and the lad on the forklift will take the bundles down of the rack. They are all different lengths and widts and thickness. Pick out your planks and they'll measure up what you have and work out how much it is. They lads told me if I was looking for something in particular they didn't have, they'd give there other stores a shout and if they'd have it, would send it down on the next load. Very helpful so they are!

Guru Maith Agut · 10-10-2019 11:20am

Thanks for the info Mick.

Large bottle small glass · 28-12-2019 3:46pm

Hi
I'm about to start cutting my best ash trees for hurleys; disease free at moment but have decided the bird in hand is better option with disease all around me.

Do perfectly straight ash trees( circa 11-13m in height) with dbh at 1.3m of 30cm have any value/use for making furniture etc?

Do you plank fresh if so or dry lengths and then plank?

Thanks for help

recipio · 28-12-2019 5:30pm

I'm afraid ash in the round is just firewood until you plank it and let it dry. Even then I'd imagine the demand would be limited as it has no tradition of being used in fine furniture.
However it is a delight to work and ideal for sugan chairs and rustic furniture. You might find a market for it in your local area, ?

limerick_woody · 17-01-2020 2:54pm

Hi guys,
I'm looking to build a garden gate - looking for advice on species and where to source it. I'm in the Limerick area. McMahons seems to have made things harder for the smaller guy - there doesn't seem to be a way to select good pieces - are there alternatives?

-thanks

Calahonda52 · 17-01-2020 4:42pm

Consider Accoya

limerick_woody · 17-01-2020 7:33pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Consider Accoya

I've never heard of it - is it expensive?

recipio · 17-01-2020 7:57pm

limerick_woody wrote: »

Hi guys,
I'm looking to build a garden gate - looking for advice on species and where to source it. I'm in the Limerick area. McMahons seems to have made things harder for the smaller guy - there doesn't seem to be a way to select good pieces - are there alternatives?

-thanks

Have you tried Chadwicks in Limerick ? They usually stock a basic supply of Iroko which is ideal for outdoor furniture.

limerick_woody · 17-01-2020 9:08pm

recipio wrote: »

Have you tried Chadwicks in Limerick ? They usually stock a basic supply of Iroko which is ideal for outdoor furniture.

Do you know if they have loose planks that i can sort through and select?

recipio · 17-01-2020 9:58pm

limerick_woody wrote: »

Do you know if they have loose planks that i can sort through and select?

Yes, although I use another branch they are good about letting you pull out planks. If you have transport then JP Corry in Cahir are great but its been a few years since i was there.

DuckSlice · 16-03-2020 5:43pm

I'm thinking of taking on the challenge of making my own snooker cue. Where would people recommend to get good quality ash, would need to have a straight grain to be able to be used. Also some Ebony and rosewood for the splices on the butt.

recipio · 16-03-2020 5:51pm

etxp wrote: »

I'm thinking of taking on the challenge of making my own snooker cue. Where would people recommend to get good quality ash, would need to have a straight grain to be able to be used. Also some Ebony and rosewood for the splices on the butt.

Have you tried the Carpentry store in Naas.? They are virtually the only shop selling exotic blanks in the ROI as far as I know. Otherwise its online shopping - at least the blanks don't cost much to post.

chillyspoon · 16-03-2020 8:26pm

Thinking about ash, it still breaks my heart to see ash not considered suitable for quality furniture - the only reason for this is historic because it used to be so common that it was effectively free, so it got used for all cheapest of the cheap furniture, which of course was considered as junk and disposable by default and got trashed as a result.

I highly recommend this book for any of you who haven't read it, apart from being just a great read (or listen if you prefer the audio book), it talks about the history of ash, its uses and goes into detail on the writer's own mission to fell a large ash tree and use every single bit of it to make things:

The Man Who Made Things Out of Trees - Robert Penn

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/213/213092/the-man-who-made-things-out-of-trees/9780141977515.html

https://play.google.com/store/audiobooks/details?id=AQAAAAB8tSm1RM

bamayang · 18-03-2020 7:07pm

Have read that book, very enjoyable. Industrious man.

Making a garage door this summer, could anyone recommend somewhere around KIlkenny or portlaoise direction that would do T&G panelling in cedar or something similarly suited?

awec · 22-03-2020 12:38pm

Anyone know the best place to order timber online for delivery in the Wicklow area? Or at least that delivers to the north Wicklow area?

Be looking for some sheets of MDF and ply for internal stuff and then some treated timber for some outdoor applications (garden bench, raised planters).

Google throws up Goodwins but i think we're outside their 20km delivery range.

iwillhtfu · 22-03-2020 12:41pm

awec wrote: »

Anyone know the best place to order timber online for delivery in the Wicklow area? Or at least that delivers to the north Wicklow area?

Be looking for some sheets of MDF and ply for internal stuff and then some treated timber for some outdoor applications (garden bench, raised planters).

Chadwicks on the boghall rd, Bray, would probably be best for that kind of stuff.

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 22-03-2020 12:44pm

recipio wrote: »

Have you tried Chadwicks in Limerick ? They usually stock a basic supply of Iroko which is ideal for outdoor furniture.

Chadwicks in Limerick closed in 2012!

recipio · 22-03-2020 1:08pm

Alisha Spicy Colon wrote: »

Chadwicks in Limerick closed in 2012!

I'm flabbergasted but thanks. I use the Nenagh branch which is going strong.

Sparks · 22-03-2020 4:40pm

awec wrote: »

Anyone know the best place to order timber online for delivery in the Wicklow area? Or at least that delivers to the north Wicklow area?

Be looking for some sheets of MDF and ply for internal stuff and then some treated timber for some outdoor applications (garden bench, raised planters).

Google throws up Goodwins but i think we're outside their 20km delivery range.

For ply and MDF and the standard softwood construction stuff and treated stuff, I'd start with some place like build4less.ie but mahons and brooks and everywhere else I know of all do delivery and did way before now (and build4less is buying off those guys anyway). Except for the large 4.8m long 4x2s and plywood and stuff I ordered way back when to do up the shed and build my workbench, I've always bought in person but that was because it was fun to wander round the stacks and pick out hardwood - it was never necessary, it was just fun

chillyspoon · 23-03-2020 10:06pm

awec wrote: »

Anyone know the best place to order timber online for delivery in the Wicklow area? Or at least that delivers to the north Wicklow area?

Be looking for some sheets of MDF and ply for internal stuff and then some treated timber for some outdoor applications (garden bench, raised planters).

Google throws up Goodwins but i think we're outside their 20km delivery range.

Another couple of North Wicklow options:

Burke Hardware in Rathnew is another general building supplies place that stock for a limited range of sheet goods (basic ply, OSB and MDF options) and framing timber.
Wood Industries in Rathdrum have a significant range of sheet goods, soft and hardwoods, in various stages of preparation.

All_in_Flynn · 30-03-2020 9:22am

Morning folks,

Longshot, but does anyone know of any timber yards still open? Looking to get a supply so I can build decking and a garden shed.

Many thanks.

Guru Maith Agut · 01-04-2020 11:43pm

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Morning folks,

Longshot, but does anyone know of any timber yards still open? Looking to get a supply so I can build decking and a garden shed.

Many thanks.

Check your local Agri stores. I had heard that if they sell feed for livestock that they are allowed trade still. Might be your only hope until things get back to more normality.

Halycon · 29-04-2020 11:08am

Hi All,

Would anyone have bought anything from these guys?
http://qeh.ie/
They are a supplier in Cobh and their website says they will supply 'crafters' like ourselves.

I am trying to locate some hardwood for a kitchen table and don't want to spend a whole day traveling to Dublin to pick up some. Also I dont have a van or trailer!

Guru Maith Agut · 30-04-2020 4:36pm

Halycon wrote: »

...
Would anyone have bought anything from these guys?
http://qeh.ie/

Haven't used them no, but I'd be very interested in your experience if you do decide to try them out.

Thanks

Halycon · 01-05-2020 10:39am

I sent an email from the form on their website and got an email from Stephen, who was very helpful and gave me a quote for rough sawn oak, 2m x 1m x 50 mm approx in 100mm planks of €260. That includes some wastage
When the restrictions ease I will be calling to them

timfromtang · 02-05-2020 12:44am

Halycon wrote: »

I sent an email from the form on their website and got an email from Stephen, who was very helpful and gave me a quote for rough sawn oak, 2m x 1m x 50 mm approx in 100mm planks of €260. That includes some wastage
When the restrictions ease I will be calling to them

How much is that per sawn cubic metre?

2x1x.05=.1
=> €2600 per sawn metre cubed.........!!!!!!!!!!!

I am FLABBERGASTED,
definitely sawing the wrong stuff in tang
tim

tabby aspreme · 02-05-2020 2:22pm

timfromtang wrote: »

How much is that per sawn cubic metre?

2x1x.05=.1
=> €2600 per sawn metre cubed.........!!!!!!!!!!!

I am FLABBERGASTED,
definitely sawing the wrong stuff in tang
tim

€75/ cubic ft, for two inch oak, that's generally the price of it, if it's kiln dried, but you would be hoping for boards 150-200mm wide for better grain pattern.

Sparks · 03-05-2020 2:31pm

75/cubic foot? That's twice what I was paying last time I bought some KD 2" oak, has it gone up that much in the last year? That's what I was paying for 1" walnut!!!

Calahonda52 · 04-05-2020 9:05am

Halycon wrote: »

I sent an email from the form on their website and got an email from Stephen, who was very helpful and gave me a quote for rough sawn oak, 2m x 1m x 50 mm approx in 100mm planks of €260. That includes some wastage
When the restrictions ease I will be calling to them

are all these numbers correct: seems v expensive

tabby aspreme · 05-05-2020 6:47am

Sparks wrote: »

75/cubic foot? That's twice what I was paying last time I bought some KD 2" oak, has it gone up that much in the last year? That's what I was paying for 1" walnut!!!

Where were you getting 1" walnut for €75, it was €115 about 6 months ago.

Sparks · 05-05-2020 11:37am

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Where were you getting 1" walnut for €75, it was €115 about 6 months ago.

Like I said, 1 year ago, from Quinns.
Brexit was driving up prices even then, but for oak to go up by *that* much is still a shock.

Halycon · 05-05-2020 3:59pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

are all these numbers correct: seems v expensive

Hi, yes numbers correct. If you can source something in Cork that is cheaper I would love to hear it!

Halycon · 05-05-2020 4:01pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

€75/ cubic ft, for two inch oak, that's generally the price of it, if it's kiln dried, but you would be hoping for boards 150-200mm wide for better grain pattern.

Hi Tabby, I would like to, and I will see if they have anything wider than 100mm

bamayang · 10-05-2020 7:52pm

Got a bucket worth of Yew today, and a few other bits. Will prob keep most for wood turning, but anyone ever try rough sawing Yew with bandsaw and letting it dry? Is it nice wood to work with for making small pieces like boxes or keepsakes?

recipio · 10-05-2020 8:39pm

Some years ago I cut up a lot of Yew trunks on my Hammer bandsaw. It wasn't too difficult - I made a 'sled' out of plywood which ran in a groove in the bandsaw table.
Yew is amazing stuff. It seems completely resistant to rot and cuts easily. It is however a beggar to work - expect splits, knots and way too much sapwood. It also like to warp as it dries so if you want 1/2" finished boards better to cut it to 1" to allow for loss.
Its worth doing though - where else will you find Yew unless you mill it yourself.;)

bamayang · 10-05-2020 9:00pm

Well that’s encouragement enough for me. I think I’ll slice up a few of the longer straight bits and see what I get.

recipio · 10-05-2020 9:15pm

bamayang wrote: »

Well that’s encouragement enough for me. I think I’ll slice up a few of the longer straight bits and see what I get.

Go for it ! I forgot to mention its is a beautiful wood with hints of red and purple. I've made a few boxes from it and they all turn a lovely nut brown colour after a year or two.

10-05-2020 10:02pm

I always refer to the wood-database site. Very informative. Take note of the comments about toxicity - It's not to be ignored.

https://www.wood-database.com/european-yew/

I turned some many years ago and it was very nice to work.

kadman · 14-05-2020 7:56pm

Absolutely beautiful timber, my favorite.

A couple of Urns I turned a few years ago.:)

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Sparks · 14-05-2020 8:14pm

Got some new turning blanks today from homeofwood.co.uk. 16 blanks, total of 15kg, all dried, for about a hundred euro delivered (my minilathe can't deal with anything over 11" so I got a few more smalls than the usual sack of blanks I think). Some damn pretty pieces of spalted beech in there.

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mayo.mick · 14-05-2020 9:15pm

Sparks wrote: »

Got some new turning blanks today from homeofwood.co.uk. 16 blanks, total of 15kg, all dried, for about a hundred euro delivered (my minilathe can't deal with anything over 11" so I got a few more smalls than the usual sack of blanks I think). Some damn pretty pieces of spalted beech in there.

I've got a few sacks of blanks from Paul at home of wood. Last sack had some lovely figured Yew. Its a great service, pity there's nothing like it here

kadman · 15-05-2020 7:12pm

Sparks wrote: »

Got some new turning blanks today from homeofwood.co.uk. 16 blanks, total of 15kg, all dried, for about a hundred euro delivered (my minilathe can't deal with anything over 11" so I got a few more smalls than the usual sack of blanks I think). Some damn pretty pieces of spalted beech in there.

Nice selection there, and great value. I doubt you could get that here for the same.:)

magicbastarder · 15-05-2020 8:42pm

i have heard stories of someone who used to fly up and down ireland, noting the position of large field trees, and would note the co-ordinates of said trees. they'd then sell the info to a company who would find out who owned the land, and approach them, ask to see the tree, and offer to buy the tree; with the idea that the tree could be processed to make veneer or put to other uses.
whether there's any truth in those stories, i am not well informed enough to judge.

brianblaze · 16-05-2020 10:28am

Considering a very small project based off US plans, and have never had to by wood before! Is it hard to get 4x4" Douglas Fir here? Anything I look for online in Ireland doesn't seem to have an 89mm x 89mm option for most woods! I assume I'm looking at the wrong thing or in the wrong places

recipio · 16-05-2020 11:57am

brianblaze wrote: »

Considering a very small project based off US plans, and have never had to by wood before! Is it hard to get 4x4" Douglas Fir here? Anything I look for online in Ireland doesn't seem to have an 89mm x 89mm option for most woods! I assume I'm looking at the wrong thing or in the wrong places

Getting 4x4 wood is difficult and getting Douglas Fir is near impossible. Its not used routinely in this country - African Iroko has replaced it for practically any outdoor construction. I haven't looked it however so I am open to correction. You may find Oak in 4x4 at some dedicated sawmills however.

brianblaze · 16-05-2020 12:05pm

recipio wrote: »

Getting 4x4 wood is difficult and getting Douglas Fir is near impossible. Its not used routinely in this country - African Iroko has replaced it for practically any outdoor construction. I haven't looked it however so I am open to correction. You may find Oak in 4x4 at some dedicated sawmills however.

Cheers! Much appreciated (It's an indoor job, i should have mentioned that! A squat rack! Ha!)

recipio · 17-05-2020 10:59am

brianblaze wrote: »

Cheers! Much appreciated (It's an indoor job, i should have mentioned that! A squat rack! Ha!)

I would imagine you could use pressure treated softwood for that. If you can't find 4x4 just glue up whatever you have to get the final dimensions. Not forgetting to use a waterproof glue.

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