New Worldwide Handicap System

Rikand wrote: »

Handicap sec issued a distribution of what our handicaps are set to be. I'm getting 7.8 which will give me a playing handicap around 9. Happy days! Cant wait to get back on the course for turkey and hamper comps playing off 9

Fair play to your handicap secretary.

Will these new details appear on golfnet?

Rikand wrote: »

To my understanding, there wont be an update to golfnet until the handicap secretaries have had a chance to review what has been sent to them incase any revisions are deemed necessary. The list is official, but not officially official

Won't be on GolfNet though. It'll be under a new portal on the Golf Ireland domain.

Rikand wrote: »

Handicap sec issued a distribution of what our handicaps are set to be. I'm getting 7.8 which will give me a playing handicap around 9. Happy days! Cant wait to get back on the course for turkey and hamper comps playing off 9

I'm guessing you were lower?


Wonder will we see more + handicap golfers now. I've come across and played golf we a good percentage of 0-3 HC but never a + HC. I know of two but I'm sure theres a lot more

slingerz wrote: »

Do you’ve an idea when this is to be communicated?

Member access to the new portal will be rolling out this week according to Golf Ireland. Likely the end of the week seeing as it's a short one. I think I pointed this out earlier in the thread, but bears repeating. You will need your GUI/ILGU number and your PIN - your PIN is on your GUI/ILGU card. If you've lost your card, you can find your PIN on your dashboard on GolfNet. If you've never logged into GolfNet, ask your handicap secretary for it.

You’d wonder will the scores needed to win your Saturday singles change much, or will there just be a greater spread of winners. It’ll be interesting come the springtime.

Mushy wrote: »

Will an email be sent out by the club with the HI in it, or how are they to communicate with us?

I'd like to say that Golf Ireland will email members directly with details on how to log on to the portal. But if my experience is anything to go by, a very large number of members have never registered on GolfNet and so Golf Ireland won't have their email addresses. So it will be down to the clubs to play mammy and wipe their little bums for them. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm aside, the portal will be just like GolfNet and you will have the address and be able to log on as I outlined above.

conor-w wrote: »

I don't know about the scores changing, but it seems like you would see more inconsistent players winning comps, as their handicaps will go up to be more in line with how they're playing week to week, whilst they still have the ability to go decently below their handicap sometimes. Meanwhile, people that are shooting their handicap or close to it every weekend will drop a few shots, and it will be even harder to win a comp!

Not sure I follow this. If you're playing consistently to your handicap, your index will reflect this, so you won't be losing shots.

thewobbler wrote: »

If it’s their best 8 of last 20 and they’re inconsistent but throw in the odd big score, then they’ll have at least a couple of low scores keeping their handicap right.

If they’re a poor player who throws in a huge score once every 20 rounds, there’s no handicapping system can stop that happening.

Yeah, i tend to agree with this. Having thought through a few scenarios, the WHS is probably going to make it a lot fairer - actually I'm not even sure if that's the correct description, but I think it'll be a lot harder to have a "wrong" handicap. The average player will normally have a couple of good scores in his last 20 holding him down, and for someone who wants to inflate their handicap its potentially an awful lot of effort to get rid of 8 scores out of your last 20, for questionable enough reward.

Will howdidido still have your updated hcap or will it just be the new golf Ireland site?

We need to remember that the new Handicap Index is not the same as the old Handicap. It represents something subtly different.

For me, my HI is one less than my current handicap. But my playing handicap (95% of course handicap) off our White Tees is exactly the same as my current competition handicap. It is one less off our Green Tees.

People saying "I am losing shots" or "I am gaining two shots" should remember to calculate against the course handicap and subsequesnt playing handicap.

The one thing I noticed from the recent Irish podcast and I was not sure about this is:

"When you show up for a competition, you will be assigned to the tees which are best suited to your handicap" (not a direct quote but that was a message I was getting.) That can't be right. is it?

conor-w wrote: »

Well based on the calculator posted earlier, I'm set to lose a number of shots, even though my 8 best scores from the last 20 were 6 level pars and 2 1 under pars net. From reading online, it seems like a lot of lower handicaps that regularly shoot around their handicap are dropping a few shots, whilst people not playing to their handicaps regularly are gaining a few?

Well firstly you're comparing your WHS handicap with your CONGU one. They are different. Taking your example above, you may have buffered the other 12 scores or could have had a number of 0.1s giving you an extra shot even though you may have been cut a few points from your couple of -1 netts.

But I was addressing a different issue that you raised and which seemed to be referring to scores achieved solely under the WHS. In that scenario, you wouldn't see much (if any) change if your best 8 are in or around level par nett.

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well firstly you're comparing your WHS handicap with your CONGU one. They are different. Taking your example above, you may have buffered the other 12 scores or could have had a number of 0.1s giving you an extra shot even though you may have been cut a few points from your couple of -1 netts.

But I was addressing a different issue that you raised and which seemed to be referring to scores achieved solely under the WHS. In that scenario, you wouldn't see much (if any) change if your best 8 are in or around level par nett.

Ah sorry, what I was saying re: winners was related to next year really, not going forward in perpetuity, probably wasn't very clear. Also, yes my playing handicap for my home course will be higher, but it is still 2 lower than my current CONGU one. When I calculated it, I only included the 8 scores as that is what is mentioned as being the basis of the new handicap.

Russman wrote: »

I think you need to put in all 20 to get an accurate h/c though ? If you just put in 8, doesn't it pro rata and only take something like best 3 because the system doesn't know you've played the full 20 rounds ?

If it's the online calculator that's been linked here a lot, it actually doesn't use the WHS progression and just works off the best eight. If you only put in eight, it calculates that as if you had twenty in.

prawnsambo wrote: »

I'd like to say that Golf Ireland will email members directly with details on how to log on to the portal. But if my experience is anything to go by, a very large number of members have never registered on GolfNet and so Golf Ireland won't have their email addresses. So it will be down to the clubs to play mammy and wipe their little bums for them. :rolleyes:

Sarcasm aside, the portal will be just like GolfNet and you will have the address and be able to log on as I outlined above.

I've never logged into Golfnet. What do people log in for? I see my old rounds on how did I do, so never bothered with Golfnet.

I've just never had a need to go back and look at my old rounds. When I joined my current club they asked about my golfing history and I gave a quick couple of lines, but didn't need to go through my old rounds.